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05-22-2009, 12:18 PM
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hexagram 23 = To break apart, to split, to separate..
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True meaning of 23
I ching
hexagram 23 = To break apart, to split, to separate..
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05-22-2009, 07:05 PM
uhh, how so?
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Re: True meaning of 23
uhh, how so?
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05-23-2009, 05:27 AM
not much of first post, it said nothing.
a hexagram is six-sided. twenty-three sided would be a dodecahedron or something, wouldn't it?
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not much of first post, it said nothing.
a hexagram is six-sided. twenty-three sided would be a dodecahedron or something, wouldn't it?
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06-06-2009, 11:36 PM
I ching,,, and a book from Robert Anton Wilson - "Cosmic Trigger I"
wiki "I ching" its not hard...
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Re: True meaning of 23
I ching,,, and a book from Robert Anton Wilson - "Cosmic Trigger I"
wiki "I ching" its not hard...
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06-06-2009, 11:42 PM
and sorry its not to break apart its to split apart... most interesting thing about the 23 enigma is that disaster usually follows the synchronism.
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and sorry its not to break apart its to split apart... most interesting thing about the 23 enigma is that disaster usually follows the synchronism.
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I have a copy of the I Ching. It's very hard to learn how to interpret things from it, harder than divining the future from the tarot even. It's basically the equivalent of tossing a coin a hundred or so times and recording the patterns while asking certain questions, then through strenuous memorization, associating each number with an answer of some sort.
Cosmic Trigger is a must read btw, it's a constant delivery of out of this world thought and information, combined and intertwined with a great personal storyline. (I cried near the end, if you read it you'll know why, hint: Luna).
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I have a copy of the I Ching. It's very hard to learn how to interpret things from it, harder than divining the future from the tarot even. It's basically the equivalent of tossing a coin a hundred or so times and recording the patterns while asking certain questions, then through strenuous memorization, associating each number with an answer of some sort.
Cosmic Trigger is a must read btw, it's a constant delivery of out of this world thought and information, combined and intertwined with a great personal storyline. (I cried near the end, if you read it you'll know why, hint: Luna).
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06-07-2009, 07:10 PM
oh, well I didn't know what the hell he meant by "i ching," so that explains it
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oh, well I didn't know what the hell he meant by "i ching," so that explains it
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06-07-2009, 07:17 PM
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..right in two, right?
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06-07-2009, 07:22 PM
*GASP*
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*GASP*
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07-06-2009, 05:06 PM
dr. pepper has 23 flavors.
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dr. pepper has 23 flavors.
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07-06-2009, 06:15 PM
lol
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lol
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dr. pepper has 23 flavors.
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dr. pepper has 23 flavors.
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07-07-2009, 09:01 AM
Eh *shrug* I sure don't care
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Eh *shrug* I sure don't care
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07-07-2009, 01:59 PM
Does the fact that 23 is a prime number have anything to do with it?
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Does the fact that 23 is a prime number have anything to do with it?
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and sorry its not to break apart its to split apart... most interesting thing about the 23 enigma is that disaster usually follows the synchronism.
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what kinds of disasters have followed the 23 synchronism?
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and sorry its not to break apart its to split apart... most interesting thing about the 23 enigma is that disaster usually follows the synchronism.
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23 cases of the swine flu
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23 cases of the swine flu
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I'm new so I would imagine this has probably already been said and discussed in the last three years, but is 23 not the half of MJ's self that came from JM?
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I'm new so I would imagine this has probably already been said and discussed in the last three years, but is 23 not the half of MJ's self that came from JM?
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I'm new so I would imagine this has probably already been said and discussed in the last three years, but is 23 not the half of MJ's self that came from JM?
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Uhh....huh?
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Uhh....huh?
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I don't have any idea of what you are referring to. And I don't see how 23 would be a personification... do you happen to know where you read that, or got the idea from?
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I don't have any idea of what you are referring to. And I don't see how 23 would be a personification... do you happen to know where you read that, or got the idea from?
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07-28-2009, 11:56 AM
Elaboration- 23 = 46 divided by 2. 46 = human chromosomes. Sperm cell has 23 chromosomes. Ovum has 23 chromosomes. 10000 days is about JM, Judith Marie, MJ, Maynard James's Mother. I thought by 23, he was referring to the part of himself that came from his mother.
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Elaboration- 23 = 46 divided by 2. 46 = human chromosomes. Sperm cell has 23 chromosomes. Ovum has 23 chromosomes. 10000 days is about JM, Judith Marie, MJ, Maynard James's Mother. I thought by 23, he was referring to the part of himself that came from his mother.
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07-28-2009, 12:03 PM
Sounds plausible to me.
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Elaboration- 23 = 46 divided by 2. 46 = human chromosomes. Sperm cell has 23 chromosomes. Ovum has 23 chromosomes. 10000 days is about JM, Judith Marie, MJ, Maynard James's Mother. I thought by 23, he was referring to the part of himself that came from his mother.
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Never read this before. Nice interp.
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Elaboration- 23 = 46 divided by 2. 46 = human chromosomes. Sperm cell has 23 chromosomes. Ovum has 23 chromosomes. 10000 days is about JM, Judith Marie, MJ, Maynard James's Mother. I thought by 23, he was referring to the part of himself that came from his mother.
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Never read this before. Nice interp.
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07-28-2009, 12:52 PM
i can dig that
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i can dig that
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lol, wow....I'm just going to sit and smile and play nice =-)
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lol, wow....I'm just going to sit and smile and play nice =-)
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Your humor attempt/shot at Inner fails.
Boobah, I rather enjoyed that interpretation, I never heard that before. Seems plausible to me.
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Your humor attempt/shot at Inner fails.
Boobah, I rather enjoyed that interpretation, I never heard that before. Seems plausible to me.
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lol, yeah...not so good
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Your humor attempt/shot at Inner fails.
Boobah, I rather enjoyed that interpretation, I never heard that before. Seems plausible to me.
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It was interesting but I also felt very strongly that it was one of those reaalllly far-fetched completely over-analyzed ideas.
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Your humor attempt/shot at Inner fails.
Boobah, I rather enjoyed that interpretation, I never heard that before. Seems plausible to me.
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It was interesting but I also felt very strongly that it was one of those reaalllly far-fetched completely over-analyzed ideas.
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Oh definitely far-fetched, but it's interesting. And I haven't read anything interesting around these parts for a while, so it was a plus.
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It was interesting but I also felt very strongly that it was one of those reaalllly far-fetched completely over-analyzed ideas.
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Oh definitely far-fetched, but it's interesting. And I haven't read anything interesting around these parts for a while, so it was a plus.
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I am happy to be too far fetched and overanalyzed. That's DIRECT and not vague and I'm totally cool with that. I am not happy to be YOURNAMEHERE. These mad lib variables are lost on me. Help me out here. Can I amend WHATWASDONE to make it not a bad idea anymore? (what was done?)
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I am happy to be too far fetched and overanalyzed. That's DIRECT and not vague and I'm totally cool with that. I am not happy to be YOURNAMEHERE. These mad lib variables are lost on me. Help me out here. Can I amend WHATWASDONE to make it not a bad idea anymore? (what was done?)
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(umm... was it the initials?)
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It was nothing, your post was fine. Continue on sharing your thoughts and insights on the songs, I'd rather enjoy to hear your perspective of other Tool songs.
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Well it's actually strangely fitting. I DID go out of my way to submit my sequential art portfolio to Marvel Comics editors to review. And it did indeed end up being a VERY bad idea to include sexually explicit pin-ups of Trademarked characters. Specifically Spider-Woman, Firestar, and Harley Quinn. I am just wondering how they knew about that.
It earned me the nickname "Triple H" (Harley's Hoo Ha)
Strangely enough, the pages in the portfolio that the editors had a problem with were the **2nd to last page & the ***3rd to last page, in that order. (so there's a 23 here as well)
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Well it's actually strangely fitting. I DID go out of my way to submit my sequential art portfolio to Marvel Comics editors to review. And it did indeed end up being a VERY bad idea to include sexually explicit pin-ups of Trademarked characters. Specifically Spider-Woman, Firestar, and Harley Quinn. I am just wondering how they knew about that.
It earned me the nickname "Triple H" (Harley's Hoo Ha)
Strangely enough, the pages in the portfolio that the editors had a problem with were the **2nd to last page & the ***3rd to last page, in that order. (so there's a 23 here as well)
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Well it's actually strangely fitting. I DID go out of my way to submit my sequential art portfolio to Marvel Comics editors to review. And it did indeed end up being a VERY bad idea to include sexually explicit pin-ups of Trademarked characters. Specifically Spider-Woman, Firestar, and Harley Quinn. I am just wondering how they knew about that.
It earned me the nickname "Triple H" (Harley's Hoo Ha)
Strangely enough, the pages in the portfolio that the editors had a problem with were the **2nd to last page & the ***3rd to last page, in that order. (so there's a 23 here as well)
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Haha, though I heard workin in Marvel Comics is like slavery :)
I like all number things and spotting 23 is kinda fun. Not that it would have any deeper meaning but - just entertaining.
I liked your idea about the 23 cells.
Actually the template for inner was not that much of a joke. Some call it The Hamburger method http://n8tip.com/the-hamburger-metho...egetarians-too.
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Well it's actually strangely fitting. I DID go out of my way to submit my sequential art portfolio to Marvel Comics editors to review. And it did indeed end up being a VERY bad idea to include sexually explicit pin-ups of Trademarked characters. Specifically Spider-Woman, Firestar, and Harley Quinn. I am just wondering how they knew about that.
It earned me the nickname "Triple H" (Harley's Hoo Ha)
Strangely enough, the pages in the portfolio that the editors had a problem with were the **2nd to last page & the ***3rd to last page, in that order. (so there's a 23 here as well)
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Haha, though I heard workin in Marvel Comics is like slavery :)
I like all number things and spotting 23 is kinda fun. Not that it would have any deeper meaning but - just entertaining.
I liked your idea about the 23 cells.
Actually the template for inner was not that much of a joke. Some call it The Hamburger method http://n8tip.com/the-hamburger-metho...egetarians-too.
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More like the Neil Hamburger method.
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Re: True meaning of 23
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More like the Neil Hamburger method.
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I am happy to be too far fetched and overanalyzed. That's DIRECT and not vague and I'm totally cool with that. I am not happy to be YOURNAMEHERE. These mad lib variables are lost on me. Help me out here. Can I amend WHATWASDONE to make it not a bad idea anymore? (what was done?)
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Re: True meaning of 23
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I am happy to be too far fetched and overanalyzed. That's DIRECT and not vague and I'm totally cool with that. I am not happy to be YOURNAMEHERE. These mad lib variables are lost on me. Help me out here. Can I amend WHATWASDONE to make it not a bad idea anymore? (what was done?)
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Sayy whaaat?
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Sayy whaaat?
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