This was a experiment where they put an artist in a controlled environment and made him take LSD and draw someone 9 times through the course of the trip.... VERY intersting...
This was a experiment where they put an artist in a controlled environment and made him take LSD and draw someone 9 times through the course of the trip.... VERY intersting...
OMG! that's AMAZING!!! I always wanted a demonstration of LSD's effects on one's creativity!!! O_O Super cool!!!
Thanks a lot for the link!!! Anything similar in ur bookmarks??? :-)
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it was really strange. Last night, I took mushrooms and smoked opium with a few friends. I showed them that site and it had a huge impact on my trip. I started drawing and went with the flow. My hand and my mind were drawing without me even thinking about it. The end result is a really fucked up picture.
It is odd what the mind can tell you that you are seeing while on a trip. The psychotropic effects of drugs on the mind; while what the body is actually doing/seeing vs. what our mind says that we are doing seeing is quite different. My friends have wanted to trip shroom and video tape it to see what the trip looks like from the outside. I think it would be something similar to these drawings...
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it was really strange. Last night, I took mushrooms and smoked opium with a few friends. I showed them that site and it had a huge impact on my trip. I started drawing and went with the flow. My hand and my mind were drawing without me even thinking about it. The end result is a really fucked up picture.
I've done that before, really cool shit and the drawings seem to be alive
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'This will be the best drawing, Like the first one, only better. If I'm not careful I'll lose control of my movements, but I won't, because I know. I know' - (this saying is then repeated many times).
let me give you a piece of advice.......don't do it.
Why not? Acid had a great effect on my life. You just need to know how to do things in moderation. Don’t be like me and double your dose very day for a week just because you got a sheet of it.
And you get to think like this for a wile,
“To day young men on acid realize that all mater is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death life is only a dream and we’re the imagination of ourselves.”
Wasn't the guy that invented (or invented the idea of) the micro-processor an LSD advocate? That to me implies that the drug possesses a capability (or possibility) to attune to a higher form of understanding and visualization.
Why not? Acid had a great effect on my life. You just need to know how to do things in moderation. Don’t be like me and double your dose very day for a week just because you got a sheet of it.
And you get to think like this for a wile,
“To day young men on acid realize that all mater is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death life is only a dream and we’re the imagination of ourselves.”
Wasn't the guy that invented (or invented the idea of) the micro-processor an LSD advocate? That to me implies that the drug possesses a capability (or possibility) to attune to a higher form of understanding and visualization.
I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me, but I do know that Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both took it, so I think that says something. A couple Nobel prize winners have taken it too, Kary Mullis (won a Nobel for inviting PCR) said this:
"Would I have invented PCR if I hadn't taken LSD? I seriously doubt it," he says. "I could sit on a DNA molecule and watch the polymers go by. I learnt that partly on psychedelic drugs."
I think I read that the Mayan king was required to undergo a spiritual, psychedelic ceremony before giving his Inauguration speech. Imagine of our president had to drop acid before his first speech as president. I think intentions might come to light in the beginning, or might not be able to stop laughing long enough to talk.
Wasn't the guy that invented (or invented the idea of) the micro-processor an LSD advocate? That to me implies that the drug possesses a capability (or possibility) to attune to a higher form of understanding and visualization.
I'm pretty sure the guy was on acid when the idea came to him.
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Re: LSD Experiment artist
Have any of yall ever seen the video from the 50s i think of the soldiers that were given real LSD to test the effects of the drug as a chemical weapon? That shit is hilarious. Some of the guys are all looking at hand tracers, some do exactly what the guy in the topic experiment does, find wonder and amazement in the ground. Some just laugh their asses off. Its pretty funny
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I would love to do this, its a cool measure of the effects on LSD over time on creativity, i wish it hadnt affected motor function though, then it might be more of how he sees the person rather than how his hands move
Because if you had any idea how dumb Nikeda already was, you'd be preaching school and homework to him/her. Nikeda on acid could very well be the end of all things.
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The fact that receptors exist in the brain for LSD must also mean that our bodies are capable of producing similar chemicals, or else why would their be receptors to bind them?
Perheps the human organism is meant to experience a wider range of consciousness than we suppose. What natural condition of mind and body would induce similar altered states of consiousness?
It's not that we have actual receptors specifically for LSD, psilocin, and the likes. We simply have neuro-receptors that can accept a host of different molecular structures which in turn can subject us to a wide array of experiences and interpretations. So yes, I'd say it's not even that abstract to say we're supposed to experience reality in many different ways.
What happens when we trip is our endogenous neuro-transmitters, i.e. serotonin, are substituted with LSD, MDMA, or whatever it is you're taking due to similarities in the composition of the molecules. LSD's composition allows for more contact and stimulation to our receptors. This means we're processing more information therefor finding ourselves much more attuned to the details in our environment and also our mind.
The human brain, accompanied with our five senses, has about ten trillion times the processing power of your average computer. This is due to millions of years of evolution. Our body's physiology and make up on the on the atomic and subatomic level is an endless myriad of quantum computers intertwining and playing off of each other. Reality is the playing out of unfathomable numbers of atoms and molecules taking part in one chemical reaction after another, exchanging information all the while. Beautiful to think about really.
Thoroughly enjoyed the artist's trip. It's amazing the creative tangents LSD can lead too.
Perheps the human organism is meant to experience a wider range of consciousness than we suppose. What natural condition of mind and body would induce similar altered states of consiousness?
perhaps? there is no question in my mind.
lsd is a tool.
it can be used to create and destroy just like any other tool.
It's not that we have actual receptors specifically for LSD, psilocin, and the likes. We simply have neuro-receptors that can accept a host of different molecular structures which in turn can subject us to a wide array of experiences and interpretations. So yes, I'd say it's not even that abstract to say we're supposed to experience reality in many different ways.
What happens when we trip is our endogenous neuro-transmitters, i.e. serotonin, are substituted with LSD, MDMA, or whatever it is you're taking due to similarities in the composition of the molecules. LSD's composition allows for more contact and stimulation to our receptors. This means we're processing more information therefor finding ourselves much more attuned to the details in our environment and also our mind.
The human brain, accompanied with our five senses, has about ten trillion times the processing power of your average computer. This is due to millions of years of evolution. Our body's physiology and make up on the on the atomic and subatomic level is an endless myriad of quantum computers intertwining and playing off of each other. Reality is the playing out of unfathomable numbers of atoms and molecules taking part in one chemical reaction after another, exchanging information all the while. Beautiful to think about really.
Thoroughly enjoyed the artist's trip. It's amazing the creative tangents LSD can lead too.
Well said.
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Admittedly, you can trip serious balls without drugs. All it takes is sleep deprivation, weird things happening around you, and a certain extra element I have yet to identify (perhaps the desire to trip balls.) but once you set yourself up to go down that road, yeah. You see things differently, clearly. You understand a lot of what's there that you don't realize consciously. This method of stressed induced epiphany state has been used in several North American Indian cultures and is often an initiation into adulthood.
It is, however, nowhere near as powerful as a chemical induced state. I'm not sure I would call LSD a spiritual "steroid"; I might suggest peyote as being more in the direction of a generally spiritual "steroid". There is a wealth of anthropological data about the use of peyote in Mexican Indian traditions, most famously the first few books Carlos Castaneda wrote. However, many many hippies used LSD for good spiritual effect in the early days of the movement. Another notable drug is ibogaine, used primarily in African tribal rituals. Many users report having relived their entire lives from the perspective of all of the other people they have ever met. They said that it completely changed the way they viewed the world, having finally experienced it from the outside and seen themselves without bias. Ibogaine has been used very controversially to help in drug rehabilitation, as it completely suspends the withdrawal process from opiates virtually instantly (several hours). The western world does not have very much solid data on ibogaine and what constitutes an overdose or whether overdose is truly possible with it, as its use in the western world is fairly rare and all deaths with an ibogaine link had an undetermined cause of death.
Hallucinogenic agents have been used in many cultures for a long time as a means towards spiritual understanding or initiation into the tribal religious life. Religions on the whole seem to highly value altered states, as it is during altered states when prophecy allegedly becomes possible. From a spiritual perspective, it's not really what you use as how you use it most of the time, unless of course it is a particularly addictive agent. I have yet to hear of someone becoming addicted to LSD, and my mother was one of those kids who ran away to San Francisco in 1965 to join the counterculture. Same goes for peyote and for mushrooms, which I do not frankly know much about. Ibogaine indeed has anti-addictive properties. Psychedelics are typically safe as far as drugs go, so long as you don't do anything fucktarded while you are in an altered state.
I think it's fair to liken LSD to a spiritual steroid. Obviously it's effects are based by and large on personal experience, but I find your point very relevant. If I wanted to be vague but still dutifully scientific about it, I'd just say it's a sensory enhancer and leave it at that. But of course I want to take it a step further. I definitely think taking LSD, or any tryptamine for that matter, has an effect on what we call our spirit or the superego, or whatever you like to call that constant ethereal matrix of molecular reactions which lead up to and comprise the totality of that which is "YOU."
Consider this: Anything happening in your environment and in that "You" I just described, constitute your life at any given moment. We are made of experiences. Different experiences are different stimuli which yield unique responses from our central and peripheral nervous systems. Thus we are always in an 'altered' state of mind. It's always altered because states of mind can never truly be constant. Just as a million little events happen over the course of a few hours to make yesterday different than tomorrow, so too do these laws of physics and the space-time continuum apply to states of mind.
If that last paragraph sounds convoluted, it's unintentional. Terrence McKenna's Novelty Theory comes to mind.
Psychedelic states are difficult to describe but somehow effortless to feel. It's just a mind-bending experience, combining sciences, and encapsulating conundrums. It can be a sheer bombardment of information that can leave one bewildered in their own mind, never understanding the true size and scope of the expanse of their mind. That's why tripping can often be described as a humbling, yet frightening, and beautiful experience. The experience can encompass all these emotions and more in the same in time.
