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you should post about this a third time. third time's a charm i hear.
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I remember when I came to this forum years ago as a youngster and there was always some buzz around here regarding Tool- those days are long gone. Anyone excited for some new music? What direction are you hoping they take?
Did someone say new Tool?.... yawn
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I remember when I came to this forum years ago as a youngster and there was always some buzz around here regarding Tool- those days are long gone. Anyone excited for some new music? What direction are you hoping they take?
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Mer de Noms was absolutely perfect. Thirteenth Step was great, not a great as Mer de Noms, but great nonetheless.
And then they shit out a political cover song album.
are there any news on the new tool album? no? i thought so.
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Mer de Noms was absolutely perfect. Thirteenth Step was great, not a great as Mer de Noms, but great nonetheless.
And then they shit out a political cover song album.
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JAG sure did make this thread nice and uppity. Thanks, JAG.
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JAG sure did make this thread nice and uppity. Thanks, JAG.
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adam posted a pic on instaface or whatever a couple days ago. just a picture of his guitar and some oddfellows thing in front of it. my best guess is that shit is being laid down, and they're probably just waiting on the nard dog to get done sniffing his grapes and write some words. i can't imagine they wouldn't send him stuff in the meantime.
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adam posted a pic on instaface or whatever a couple days ago. just a picture of his guitar and some oddfellows thing in front of it. my best guess is that shit is being laid down, and they're probably just waiting on the nard dog to get done sniffing his grapes and write some words. i can't imagine they wouldn't send him stuff in the meantime.
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A couple of weeks ago I visited the Tool loft to try and get some kind of idea as to how things were progressing with the writing sessions now that the band was back hard at it. Well, I am happy to report that there has indeed been a lot of progress as far as new material goes, especially with the lengthy so-called "epic' piece that the guys have been arranging for quite some time now.
Shortly after I arrived, before taking to their respective instruments, Adam suggested that everyone should first have a listen to what they had recorded during the previous session in order to make sure that all were in agreement with certain recently added sections. And listen they did. In fact, to give you some idea - my parking meter expired twice before they were done. And judging from the smiles on their faces, it seemed that, for the most part, Danny, Adam and Justin liked very much what they were hearing and that after some finishing touches, the 'epic' tune would be ready for Maynard to do his thing. (During some of the more melodic passages, I was trying to envision the vocals which, to me, brings it all together.)

After a bit of discussion about some rapid-fire triplets in one section, I asked Danny if he was going to be able to knock out the piece in one take when it came time to track it? His response was to smile and bury his head in his hands, which I will let the readers interpret for themselves. As for the song itself, without giving too much away, it features complex time signatures, interesting harmonic structure and expanding effects processing - similar to what fans of Tool have come to expect - only now, perhaps not surprisingly, the band has taken it to the next level.

Okay, having given you this bit of an update, please note that I am NOT suggesting in any way that the band is ready to go into the studio any time soon. I honestly have no idea as far as any recording timetables go. I am also not sure how many other songs are near completion at this point. Nor do I know at what stage the vocals might be at for ANY of the new material. All I am saying is that as far as this one particular song goes (albeit, a very lengthy one), it was a LOT closer to being finished (instrumentally, speaking) than the last time that I heard it, and that fans of Tool's music will certainly not be disappointed.
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A couple of weeks ago I visited the Tool loft to try and get some kind of idea as to how things were progressing with the writing sessions now that the band was back hard at it. Well, I am happy to report that there has indeed been a lot of progress as far as new material goes, especially with the lengthy so-called "epic' piece that the guys have been arranging for quite some time now.
Shortly after I arrived, before taking to their respective instruments, Adam suggested that everyone should first have a listen to what they had recorded during the previous session in order to make sure that all were in agreement with certain recently added sections. And listen they did. In fact, to give you some idea - my parking meter expired twice before they were done. And judging from the smiles on their faces, it seemed that, for the most part, Danny, Adam and Justin liked very much what they were hearing and that after some finishing touches, the 'epic' tune would be ready for Maynard to do his thing. (During some of the more melodic passages, I was trying to envision the vocals which, to me, brings it all together.)

After a bit of discussion about some rapid-fire triplets in one section, I asked Danny if he was going to be able to knock out the piece in one take when it came time to track it? His response was to smile and bury his head in his hands, which I will let the readers interpret for themselves. As for the song itself, without giving too much away, it features complex time signatures, interesting harmonic structure and expanding effects processing - similar to what fans of Tool have come to expect - only now, perhaps not surprisingly, the band has taken it to the next level.

Okay, having given you this bit of an update, please note that I am NOT suggesting in any way that the band is ready to go into the studio any time soon. I honestly have no idea as far as any recording timetables go. I am also not sure how many other songs are near completion at this point. Nor do I know at what stage the vocals might be at for ANY of the new material. All I am saying is that as far as this one particular song goes (albeit, a very lengthy one), it was a LOT closer to being finished (instrumentally, speaking) than the last time that I heard it, and that fans of Tool's music will certainly not be disappointed.
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This song sounds like it's gonna be 30 minutes long. Add in like 5 segues and *maybe* 3 other "shorter songs" and that's that for this album. Tool are done. Over and out, I highly doubt any more albums.
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This song sounds like it's gonna be 30 minutes long. Add in like 5 segues and *maybe* 3 other "shorter songs" and that's that for this album. Tool are done. Over and out, I highly doubt any more albums.
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so we are at the same point where we thought we were months ago again. time for a fishing trip to alaska
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so we are at the same point where we thought we were months ago again. time for a fishing trip to alaska
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Who is expecting him to point any fingers? What an odd thing to say.
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Who is expecting him to point any fingers? What an odd thing to say.
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i didn't read that as a refusal, but rather as a disclaimer.. he's saying he isn't blaming the band or anyone in the band, just that it's taking a long time
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i didn't read that as a refusal, but rather as a disclaimer.. he's saying he isn't blaming the band or anyone in the band, just that it's taking a long time
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Who is expecting him to point any fingers? What an odd thing to say.
Rolling Stone and the media in general probably are.
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I dont know. Magazine sales aside, I don't think mainstream media could care less about another Tool album.

Even if they did, it seems odd to me for Maynard to acknowledge the subtext of "Hey, where is the new album? It's almost been 8 years." Unless, he himself is frustrated with amount of time it's taking.

for the record; I think bogs is right and I'm reading too much into it.
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I dont know. Magazine sales aside, I don't think mainstream media could care less about another Tool album.

Even if they did, it seems odd to me for Maynard to acknowledge the subtext of "Hey, where is the new album? It's almost been 8 years." Unless, he himself is frustrated with amount of time it's taking.

for the record; I think bogs is right and I'm reading too much into it.
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I think he saying it a little. With their process taking over 700 times and is it even happening, i couldnt tell you. I think he's a little annoyed
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I think he saying it a little. With their process taking over 700 times and is it even happening, i couldnt tell you. I think he's a little annoyed
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I dont know. Magazine sales aside, I don't think mainstream media could care less about another Tool album.

Even if they did, it seems odd to me for Maynard to acknowledge the subtext of "Hey, where is the new album? It's almost been 8 years." Unless, he himself is frustrated with amount of time it's taking.

for the record; I think bogs is right and I'm reading too much into it.
The way Tool fans tend to buy up every morsel of public exposure (interviews, photos, etc) that the band does, I would think magazine publishers are pretty anxious for the band to get the publicity machine going.
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I dont know. Magazine sales aside, I don't think mainstream media could care less about another Tool album.

Even if they did, it seems odd to me for Maynard to acknowledge the subtext of "Hey, where is the new album? It's almost been 8 years." Unless, he himself is frustrated with amount of time it's taking.

for the record; I think bogs is right and I'm reading too much into it.
The way Tool fans tend to buy up every morsel of public exposure (interviews, photos, etc) that the band does, I would think magazine publishers are pretty anxious for the band to get the publicity machine going.
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I think we all know that Adam is the limiting reagent. When your bag of tricks is as limited as his, you need to make sure everything is tight.
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I think we all know that Adam is the limiting reagent. When your bag of tricks is as limited as his, you need to make sure everything is tight.
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I think we all know that Adam is the limiting reagent. When your bag of tricks is as limited as his, you need to make sure everything is tight.
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still comes off that he is blaming the other three guys

as in, he's so busy with wine and puscifer and apc releasing music nobody gives a shit about and playing setlists nobody wants to hear, etc etc that maybe MJK thinks fans blame him for keeping so busy as to be the source of the delay on the Tool album.

so he's passing the buck onto "them" for being perfectionists and taking the sweet ass time.
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still comes off that he is blaming the other three guys

as in, he's so busy with wine and puscifer and apc releasing music nobody gives a shit about and playing setlists nobody wants to hear, etc etc that maybe MJK thinks fans blame him for keeping so busy as to be the source of the delay on the Tool album.

so he's passing the buck onto "them" for being perfectionists and taking the sweet ass time.
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sian, the "blame" in your theory can also be translated into "feeling out the final arrangements to be used in conjunction for upcoming vocalizations of various tracks"

do you want anything less than "perfection" of balance, synchronization and emotion?
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sian, the "blame" in your theory can also be translated into "feeling out the final arrangements to be used in conjunction for upcoming vocalizations of various tracks"

do you want anything less than "perfection" of balance, synchronization and emotion?
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The fans are quick to blame members, but I doubt that any of them are so quick to point the finger. Maynard is really just pointing out what we already know, and that other band members have already admitted to.

Maynard isn't blaming or passing the buck at all, anyone who properly reads the interview can see that.
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The fans are quick to blame members, but I doubt that any of them are so quick to point the finger. Maynard is really just pointing out what we already know, and that other band members have already admitted to.

Maynard isn't blaming or passing the buck at all, anyone who properly reads the interview can see that.
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I'm sure Maynard is pretty frustrated...

"Hurry up guys! I want to get this final record off of my contract!"
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I'm sure Maynard is pretty frustrated...

"Hurry up guys! I want to get this final record off of my contract!"
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Is that even the situation of the contract with Tool?
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Is that even the situation of the contract with Tool?
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Is that even the situation of the contract with Tool?
I don't think anyone really knows outside of the band/management.

Even if it were the arrangement, if Maynard really wanted out then I imagine they'd go down the greatest hits path APC have.
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Is that even the situation of the contract with Tool?
I don't think anyone really knows outside of the band/management.

Even if it were the arrangement, if Maynard really wanted out then I imagine they'd go down the greatest hits path APC have.
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I'm hoping TOOL fans get a little something for Christmas. If I remember correctly, we still have a big announcement that has yet to be announced.

This album is almost as bad as Dr Dre's Detox...
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I'm hoping TOOL fans get a little something for Christmas. If I remember correctly, we still have a big announcement that has yet to be announced.

This album is almost as bad as Dr Dre's Detox...
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I'm hoping TOOL fans get a little something for Christmas. If I remember correctly, we still have a big announcement that has yet to be announced.

This album is almost as bad as Dr Dre's Detox...
Big announcement = live DV...

Nope, it's just Schism video single re-release with new artwork. Best 200 dollars you'll spend this holiday season.
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This album is almost as bad as Dr Dre's Detox...
Big announcement = live DV...

Nope, it's just Schism video single re-release with new artwork. Best 200 dollars you'll spend this holiday season.
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Nope, it's just Schism video single re-release with new artwork. Best 200 dollars you'll spend this holiday season.
That's an idea I can get behind
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So there's this...



and



Put the two together and you get "A Perfect Circle New Album"

lol

but I haven't even looked at this codethreesixty.com, but I'm guessing that implies that it's 360 they are referring to. Not something more.

edit: yeah, really seems like 360 they are talking about. codethreesixty.com only says "I JUST WANT TO SAY.. GOOD LUCK. WERE ALL COUNTING ON YOU ~MAYNARD JAMES KEENAN"

funny that they are calling this an "album" teehee
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So there's this...



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Put the two together and you get "A Perfect Circle New Album"

lol

but I haven't even looked at this codethreesixty.com, but I'm guessing that implies that it's 360 they are referring to. Not something more.

edit: yeah, really seems like 360 they are talking about. codethreesixty.com only says "I JUST WANT TO SAY.. GOOD LUCK. WERE ALL COUNTING ON YOU ~MAYNARD JAMES KEENAN"

funny that they are calling this an "album" teehee
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Soooo is the curveball that puscifer, tool and Primus are going to do a festival tour in Mexico in March of 2014?
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Soooo is the curveball that puscifer, tool and Primus are going to do a festival tour in Mexico in March of 2014?
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Soooo is the curveball that puscifer, tool and Primus are going to do a festival tour in Mexico in March of 2014?
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That's been said a lot.

I only partially agree.
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That's been said a lot.

I only partially agree.
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I don't know, they only do a handful of shows once a year and usually play for under two hours, that's still seems pretty lazy.

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That's been said a lot.

I only partially agree.
If it's been said a lot, then it's probably somewhat true. Adam even admitted to being lazy about the pot video, almost 8 years after the single was released! Maynard has stated that it's not his fault it's taking so long, so Maybe Adam just does way too much ketamine and looses track of the years or something. He seems pretty stoned in interviews most of the time.
It's going to be 8 years between albums this time. That seems absurd when they"ve been acting like its just going to be one more year for the past 4 or 5. Does that mean it will be 10 or twelve before the next one? As the band Tool they are pretty lazy, although as individuals they seem to be pretty active, except for Adam. I still love them though, so whatever.
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I don't know, they only do a handful of shows once a year and usually play for under two hours, that's still seems pretty lazy.

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That's been said a lot.

I only partially agree.
If it's been said a lot, then it's probably somewhat true. Adam even admitted to being lazy about the pot video, almost 8 years after the single was released! Maynard has stated that it's not his fault it's taking so long, so Maybe Adam just does way too much ketamine and looses track of the years or something. He seems pretty stoned in interviews most of the time.
It's going to be 8 years between albums this time. That seems absurd when they"ve been acting like its just going to be one more year for the past 4 or 5. Does that mean it will be 10 or twelve before the next one? As the band Tool they are pretty lazy, although as individuals they seem to be pretty active, except for Adam. I still love them though, so whatever.
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Allowing large chunks of time to go by before writing and recording a new record is part of what makes Tool, Tool. I tend to agree that since they change as individuals, the end result of an album ends up being something truly different than what they've done before. So in that respect it's part of their process.

They also have shown interest keeping variety to their creative outlets. All of them have other avenues with which to express their art. Having long gaps between records allows for that to happen at a comfortable pace for everyone. Don't forget that during this break Adam did pursue his comic book project.

I'd only consider all of this to be lazy in the sense that there are plenty of other high caliber artists that have cranked out a lot of said art in a comparatively far shorter amount of time.

But I believe good art is a reflection of the artist(s) that created it. If this is the process that they are all comfortable with, then that's probably the best process for them to use.

All that said, they have been writing for a much longer amount of time this time around, and doing so a much more casual pace. I think part of that could be age. But more than likely, I personally think they are trying to do something different. Create something that sounds truly new and exciting to them. They've always been about that, but perhaps this time around they are struggling to find out what that is.

With this band, I'm (remarkably) still willing to give them slack as a fan and allow them to do what they want to do.

Also, Adam did split with Camella and married Korin. Not to bring any of their personal lives into it, but events like that tend to be emotionally draining and occupy time. :/
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Allowing large chunks of time to go by before writing and recording a new record is part of what makes Tool, Tool. I tend to agree that since they change as individuals, the end result of an album ends up being something truly different than what they've done before. So in that respect it's part of their process.

They also have shown interest keeping variety to their creative outlets. All of them have other avenues with which to express their art. Having long gaps between records allows for that to happen at a comfortable pace for everyone. Don't forget that during this break Adam did pursue his comic book project.

I'd only consider all of this to be lazy in the sense that there are plenty of other high caliber artists that have cranked out a lot of said art in a comparatively far shorter amount of time.

But I believe good art is a reflection of the artist(s) that created it. If this is the process that they are all comfortable with, then that's probably the best process for them to use.

All that said, they have been writing for a much longer amount of time this time around, and doing so a much more casual pace. I think part of that could be age. But more than likely, I personally think they are trying to do something different. Create something that sounds truly new and exciting to them. They've always been about that, but perhaps this time around they are struggling to find out what that is.

With this band, I'm (remarkably) still willing to give them slack as a fan and allow them to do what they want to do.

Also, Adam did split with Camella and married Korin. Not to bring any of their personal lives into it, but events like that tend to be emotionally draining and occupy time. :/
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