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Old 05-25-2007, 11:27 PM   #41
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

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Dude... have you ever watched any of the music videos that Adam mindfoiled us with?

Edit: Err.. and those riffs arent replaceable. adam is a genius on guitar riffs.
Word. Adams one of a kind. Think about it. What do most folks have to say about the guitaring in TOOL? It's "simplistic, minimalist, organic and flowing, but sometimes slow..." Seems to me, nobody else would/could come up with the riffs that are one 1/4 of the music itself.
I can only think of Larry LeLonde from Primus, that has the same innate guitar style.

Adam's a badass.
Drummers tire... :o
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:41 PM   #42
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

plus many of those riffs are the hearts of those song's feeling.. think Parabol? what does your minds-ear hear?

I hear:

"
di-dyyv. dooo-dydiivvvv.

Di-dyvvvv. Diddle-dyyyv.

this body, this body.. etc. etc.

"

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Old 05-26-2007, 05:47 AM   #43
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^^lol, I'm a chickenhead. I can't help but nod and I don't care. My best freind K. says,
"don't be chickenhead in my car!"
He's a gangsta ...and I am not. I always get him to play "Redmans' Muddy Waters"

...uh, tmi
Haha, man. As I think of songs ...many of them simply wouldn't be, if the guitaring were any different at all.
R.I.T. - o m g...
I could go back and forth like this for days.

Adam, def irreplacable i m o.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:40 PM   #44
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

paul could come back, he did a lot of great stuff after tool. well maybe not a lot but lusk was damn good and feersum ennjin deserved some praise.
maynard adam and danney really make tool what it is, if any of them changed the band's distinct style, as formed by those three's distincter styles, would change.
but i like justin a lot, it would be a shame if he left.
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Ok well you could hire someone to do the art like oh I dunno maybe...Alex Grey or Chet Zar. Tool already hires outside help so obviously that can be replaced. I love Adam's art work and it clearly adds a lot to the band but that it's not irreplacable.

In my post I didn't mention many of the reasons why I think the band would choose to dissolve if the lineup had to change and you guys hit on part of it. By the way those riffs and effects are part of what I meant by atmosphere so I didn't exactly ignore them. Adam and Justin are replaceable as far as their playing abilities but the writing stage is definitely a big problem. They both write incredible riffs, etc...and the band would be hard pressed to replace them when it came time to write new material and still sound like Tool. It's happened to many bands before on the new album after replacing a key member, and the album flops. The lack of cohesiveness in writing is one reason why I don't think the band would continue.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

if they lose a member they would have to lose a letter of there name
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

ADAM.

I play guitar, my fav band is tool and i always looked at adam as a genius until 10,000 days happened. His effects were mind-blowing for me before but now... seems he ran out of ideas. He's just repeating old riffs... the whole album's genius, but his work pulls it back. It's like he couldnt keep up with Danny and Justin.

And THERE ARE A LOT of guitar players that can play sicker stuff, and by that i don't mean all virtuosos, but people that use weird efects. I'd consider :

- Mike Tempesta (NOT for his work in pm5k that sucked, but for Human Waste)
- Agata from MxBx (they're opening tool this year in US)
- Mat Bellamy. He could even help Maynard sing.
- One of the guitar players from Meshuggah.

I'd chose Mike Tempesta.. Adam could stay as the band's artist... or the second guitar. Maybe having 2 guitar players is what TOOL needs now..



Danny and Justin CANNOT be replaced. Tool would cease existing.


Maynard... his voice's coming to an end, so maybe in the future someone will have to take his place. I'd choose Trent Reznor, i can't imagine anyone else there.
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:32 PM   #48
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

If there is no Maynard there is no Tool! He is the heart, the brain, and the spinal cord of the band.
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ADAM.

I play guitar, my fav band is tool and i always looked at adam as a genius until 10,000 days happened. His effects were mind-blowing for me before but now... seems he ran out of ideas. He's just repeating old riffs... the whole album's genius, but his work pulls it back. It's like he couldnt keep up with Danny and Justin.

And THERE ARE A LOT of guitar players that can play sicker stuff, and by that i don't mean all virtuosos, but people that use weird efects. I'd consider :

- Mike Tempesta (NOT for his work in pm5k that sucked, but for Human Waste)
- Agata from MxBx (they're opening tool this year in US)
- Mat Bellamy. He could even help Maynard sing.
- One of the guitar players from Meshuggah.

I'd chose Mike Tempesta.. Adam could stay as the band's artist... or the second guitar. Maybe having 2 guitar players is what TOOL needs now..



Danny and Justin CANNOT be replaced. Tool would cease existing.


Maynard... his voice's coming to an end, so maybe in the future someone will have to take his place. I'd choose Trent Reznor, i can't imagine anyone else there.

Well I also play guitar (for 13 years, I'm no amateur) and I have to disagree. His riffs on 10,000 Days take his style to new places, for sure. Vicarious is the only song that kinda borrows from the past. He's never written a riff like Jambi. His low D-high D bendy thing on The Pot is pure simplistic genius (and his riff on the bridge is pure slightly more complex genius, another lick dissimilar from his past work), the most important musical element for most of Rosetta Stoned for me is his amazing guitar work, despite obvious references to the past (I think that was the idea on this one), his subtle touch entirely makes the mood work on Intension, and Right in Two, like it or not, is all about Adam's haunting clean tone intro, which also is a bit unlike what he's done before. And c'mon that wide-open riff heavy-ass riff after the tabla stuff ushers in the rest of the song unmistakably, and again showcases this master of simplicity.

I hardly believe he's out of ideas.

It's not that these riffs are hard to play or emulate. The genius in them is that that HE thought of them, and that no one else sounds like him. Unless they are copying his style, that is.

And as a songwriter, I can tell you it's a lot harder to come up with something simple and memorably effective than something complicated and showy.

Adam is irreplaceable. As are Danny and Justin. I'm with the school of thought that Maynard is replaceable, if only because I feel the core of the band's sound is in its instrumental sound more than anything else.

But dear god I hope he never is replaced, because his voice is such a perfect match to what the instrumentalists create.

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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

Adam is a fucking master of all the things that make a guitarist great that they don't actually get credit for. (feedback control, rhythm, synergy with the rest of the band, restraint/amazing instincts, being the most ripped-off yet underappreciated musician alive, etc.)

Honestly I would challenge anyone here to play his parts as cleanly or as consistently as he does. Being a guitarist myself, I know a lot of what he plays isn't exactly child's play even if it's not just mind-blowingly technical either.

I can think of plenty of highly technical guitarists who are completely boring.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

You can't replace any member of Tool, but never say never because they replaced Paul and we got Justin. I think the band how it is, though, can't be replaced.

And saying Maynard can be replaced is retarded. Even if he's getting old, his ability to fit lyrics (sweet lyrics, too) into complex musical structures is underestimated. I'd like to see you write some badass lyrics to a rhythm of 9/8.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

Seriously, Adam writes some badass music. Right in two anyone? Parabol? Sometimes the best way to get the job done is the simple way. You could, in fact, dig a hole in the ground by rigging up 400 spoons to a machine that auto-digs it's way, or you could grab yourself a damn shovel...Adam grabs the damn shovel.

Sorry for the bad analogie thing, I'm very tired
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

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Well I also play guitar (for 13 years, I'm no amateur) and I have to disagree. His riffs on 10,000 Days take his style to new places, for sure. Vicarious is the only song that kinda borrows from the past. He's never written a riff like Jambi. His low D-high D bendy thing on The Pot is pure simplistic genius (and his riff on the bridge is pure slightly more complex genius, another lick dissimilar from his past work), the most important musical element for most of Rosetta Stoned for me is his amazing guitar work, despite obvious references to the past (I think that was the idea on this one), his subtle touch entirely makes the mood work on Intension, and Right in Two, like it or not, is all about Adam's haunting clean tone intro, which also is a bit unlike what he's done before. And c'mon that wide-open riff heavy-ass riff after the tabla stuff ushers in the rest of the song unmistakably, and again showcases this master of simplicity.

I hardly believe he's out of ideas.

It's not that these riffs are hard to play or emulate. The genius in them is that that HE thought of them, and that no one else sounds like him. Unless they are copying his style, that is.

And as a songwriter, I can tell you it's a lot harder to come up with something simple and memorably effective than something complicated and showy.

Adam is irreplaceable. As are Danny and Justin. I'm with the school of thought that Maynard is replaceable, if only because I feel the core of the band's sound is in its instrumental sound more than anything else.

But dear god I hope he never is replaced, because his voice is such a perfect match to what the instrumentalists create.
Thanks for articulating a lot of things I could not earlier. I've been playing for a pretty long time too, and it kills me when I hear people talk about how easy it is. I'm like, "Really? Then I must suck donkey balls cause it's taken me almost two years to get down most of the songs on Lateralus."

He's the one that thought of the riffs he uses first, and simple as they may be, he's the one that knew how to work them into Tool's songs. leefsnaspleaf has good point about him specialising in areas that are generally under-appreciated. Those areas being feedback control, and rhythm primarily.

I remember that when I was learning guitar my uncle told me that people don't appreciate rhythm very much anymore. I totally see what he's saying these days. It's like if you can play fast leads and shit, you're a great guitarist by default. I get tired of all the fucking leads though. There's more to a guitar than that. I have a friend who used to play on this guitar site where all they would do is battle eachother's lead capabilities and people would vote on which one was the fastest, and craziest. He could play all those fast futuristic leads like you'd hear on those F-Zero games. You know, those super annoying showboating pieces of shit leads.
Oh god! And he LOVED sweeps. Always with the fucking sweeps. He'd be playing and feel like he's going to slow then it's sweep after sweep after sweep. Then he'd play like two kinda sustained, airy chords slowly and belt into more rediculous sweeps. There was no doubt he was talented, but he totally took away from what the rest of the band was doing.

I think Adam does a good job of taking the minimalist approach and letting everything come together. A lot of guitarists these days have a nasty habit of pretending like they're playing by themselves, and I'm glad Adam's an exception.
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Adam is a fucking master of all the things that make a guitarist great that they don't actually get credit for. (feedback control, rhythm, synergy with the rest of the band, restraint/amazing instincts, being the most ripped-off yet underappreciated musician alive, etc.

Exactly. that's all that needs to be said... But that won't stop me...

Yeah, people can sit in their bedroom and play Aenima all day through some little combo amp and impress their mom and think they're hot shit. Try it through three half stacks running wide open and see how much control you have. Those intangibles listed by Leef are so important and so overlooked. Just his feedback alone, he pulls that stuff off live, controlling the pitch perfectly AND tastefully. He not only plays the guitar, but he plays the amp, and the room.

The only guitar player I've ever seen with that sort of command and control of a guitar is Jeff Beck. Just those two. Pretty damn fine company.

Adam Jones just makes it look easy. Another testament to his skill.
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Playing the amp and the room?? I like that.
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Playing the amp and the room?? I like that.
Cool. Props to you and Guitarpete as well for your observations.

Sweep arpeggios are nauseating. Diarrhea of the guitar if you ask me. I'd rather hear David Gilmour play a one stringed guitar and FEEL it.
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This is just something me and a friend were discussing earlier. I know everyone's first response would be something along the lines of 'no fucking way' (mine too), but it's happened in the past and as far as i can tell the band has grown stronger because of it. Does anyone have some interesting (and inevitably controversial) ideas?

I think right now Tool are the best band around, and that their line-up is flawless. They should and will remain as they are as long as there is a Tool.

But if i HAD to choose an individual i think i'd say Maynard would be the prime candidate. As much as i love him (no, worship him), did anyone else hear the latest album/see Tool on their latest tour and feel that maybe the little bald-headed chap had lost his edge a tad? The other guys are just so mind-blowingly on top of their game right now i can't imagine any of them being excluded! WHO could fill Maynard's shoes, on the other hand, is something i can't really answer, hah.
They've been around for about 16/17 years now, maybe they'll keep going for a total of 10,000 days.
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Adam and Justin I can see possibly as replaceable...

Maynard and Danny cannot, period.

In the end, probably Justin over Adam...but both are close.
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Adam is a fucking master of all the things that make a guitarist great that they don't actually get credit for. (feedback control, rhythm, synergy with the rest of the band, restraint/amazing instincts, being the most ripped-off yet underappreciated musician alive, etc.)

Honestly I would challenge anyone here to play his parts as cleanly or as consistently as he does. Being a guitarist myself, I know a lot of what he plays isn't exactly child's play even if it's not just mind-blowingly technical either.

I can think of plenty of highly technical guitarists who are completely boring.
Could you give me an example of, where he displays his “master degree” in rhythm guitar?

I’m actually just curious. Are you talking about inventing them or playing them? Because they don’t seem that complex to me, though I can see the skill that it takes to create them.
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Could you give me an example of, where he displays his “master degree” in rhythm guitar?

I’m actually just curious. Are you talking about inventing them or playing them? Because they don’t seem that complex to me, though I can see the skill that it takes to create them.
I probably won't provide a clear enough example, but Ticks and Leeches is a good example. The rhythm progession after the first lead is really fucking tricky. Then he does a melody in the same time signature that matches note for note what Maynard is singing. After that he does that "duh nuh nuh" really quickly which sounds easy, but he has to match Danny beat for beat on those three very fast notes each time.

I tried to play it with a drummer and it was pretty hard. Danny hits the tom, bass, and snare in rapid succession, and the guitar notes sound out in exact timing with the tom, bass, and snare. The chorus to the song is rather simple, but it is still placed ingeniously.

Also, another case where he really displays his masterful rhythm would be the chorus progression in Lateralus. Triplets on the fifth fret chord every time make it to where the funky time signature works out, and it takes awhile to learn how to play that effectively, at least for me it did.

Look at the chords he's playing at the end of 46&2. He plays the bassline Justin's been playing the whole time except he doubles the notes up into chords and plays them really fast. That's commendable. Also, the breakdown in RiT has phenomenal rhythm guitar.
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Well I also play guitar (for 13 years, I'm no amateur) and I have to disagree. His riffs on 10,000 Days take his style to new places, for sure. Vicarious is the only song that kinda borrows from the past. He's never written a riff like Jambi. His low D-high D bendy thing on The Pot is pure simplistic genius (and his riff on the bridge is pure slightly more complex genius, another lick dissimilar from his past work), the most important musical element for most of Rosetta Stoned for me is his amazing guitar work, despite obvious references to the past (I think that was the idea on this one), his subtle touch entirely makes the mood work on Intension, and Right in Two, like it or not, is all about Adam's haunting clean tone intro, which also is a bit unlike what he's done before. And c'mon that wide-open riff heavy-ass riff after the tabla stuff ushers in the rest of the song unmistakably, and again showcases this master of simplicity.

I hardly believe he's out of ideas.

It's not that these riffs are hard to play or emulate. The genius in them is that that HE thought of them, and that no one else sounds like him. Unless they are copying his style, that is.

And as a songwriter, I can tell you it's a lot harder to come up with something simple and memorably effective than something complicated and showy.

Adam is irreplaceable. As are Danny and Justin. I'm with the school of thought that Maynard is replaceable, if only because I feel the core of the band's sound is in its instrumental sound more than anything else.

But dear god I hope he never is replaced, because his voice is such a perfect match to what the instrumentalists create.

Ok we'll go here by parts.

First, his D bend in the pot.

Has anyone gone to a tool concert where they play the Pot? ADAM CAN'T DO THAT BEND. He recorded it with studio help, cause he can't get that cool feedback when he actually plays it live.

The pot's great, actually but rosetta is so repetitive, his "solo" is just saying "yeah, i went with robert fripp and now i can hold a note as long as i want... maybe they're good songs but my point here is that in every album he comes with something better than before. As in opíate he had his "metal-grunge" sound, then in undertow weird sounds, aenima, huge use of his flanger and delay, lateralus, technical songs, a lot of wah solos, cool overall.

But 10,000 days? Talkbox and pan-tremolo? ... huge sustain? ... compare it to what Justin and Danny grew for this album. Justin is amazing, all the sounds, the riffs, the use of the bass is overall great and far away from what we've heard before of him. Danny and his new mandalas, using them in every way possible, Intension is FUCKING AWESOME.

He just can't compare to the growth of the band... (and maynard's vocal cords going to hell)


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Honestly I would challenge anyone here to play his parts as cleanly or as consistently as he does. Being a guitarist myself, I know a lot of what he plays isn't exactly child's play even if it's not just mind-blowingly technical either.
Challenge accepted, it's not that hard to play his parts, you're refering to what you hear on the album. But go and see him live, he can't play that way his own songs, he screws up a lot.

Then, go to Youtube and find videos from users like opiateofthemasses (a lot of money and he has all adam's gear like the diezel, mesa boogie and the silverburst), latheralus (shitty sound and equipment but technically sometimes better than opiateofthemasses) and others i can't remember right now that can pull it of.

(for bass look for toolbassplayer).

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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

I think Tool is getting more apprection because of Justin's use of bass effects. Paul had some cool riffs but i don't think we could've seen anything close to what we saw in Lateralus and 10kdays.
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Adam and Justin I can see possibly as replaceable...

Maynard and Danny cannot, period.

In the end, probably Justin over Adam...but both are close.
i actually wouldn't mind if they hired a second guitarist that was more technical than adam. you can't get rid of him because you would lose his art, which is masterfull ***. really though hes not even close to being on the level of musicianship to danny. so many of his riffs are just the same number of notes as the time sig because he can't keep up with danny.
my personal vote would be for buckethead to join the band, that would be insane.
when hes not trying to show off he plays some really interesting melodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61k041I4aEo

he could certainly keep up with danny on all levels too musicianship wise
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How could you replace maynard and call it tool? You can't, you could replace any other member and it would still sound like tool; probably not as good, but it would still be tool. Get rid of maynard there is no way its even close to the same.


Take rage against the machine, replace de la rocha with chris parnell, you get audioslave... ok, but not even close to RATM.



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if tool was to be replaced......


maynard - Trent Reznor
Adam - Buckethead, Tom Morello, or jonny greenwood
justin - Paul D'amour
Danny - Tim alexander
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

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maynard - Trent Reznor
Adam - Buckethead, Tom Morello, or jonny greenwood
justin - Paul D'amour
Danny - Tim alexander
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:07 AM   #67
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

YOU CAN'T REPLACE ANY MEMBER OF TOOL. End of story.
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YOU CAN'T REPLACE ANY MEMBER OF TOOL. End of story.
Hmm something's fishy...what happened to Paul D'Amour?
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Hmm something's fishy...what happened to Paul D'Amour?
By that, I mean the CURRENT Tool lineup.
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If there is no Maynard there is no Tool! He is the heart, the brain, and the spinal cord of the band.

yeah there might be but theyd have to change there name. and instrumental CD would be lovely i think!!!!!!!!
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maynard needs to get the fuck out and tool become an instrumental band. then adam can get the fuck out and danny and justin will be a 2 member masterpiece. then king buzzo can join.
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maynard needs to get the fuck out and tool become an instrumental band. then adam can get the fuck out and danny and justin will be a 2 member masterpiece. then king buzzo can join.
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Hell, Buzz O. doesn't even need to join if he doesn't wanna. Justin and Danny themselves are more than enough; those two guys are all I hear when I listen to Tool anyway. I need to get those two to play at my wedding.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

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Hell, Buzz O. doesn't even need to join if he doesn't wanna. Justin and Danny themselves are more than enough; those two guys are all I hear when I listen to Tool anyway. I need to get those two to play at my wedding.
That would be amazing.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

The fact that nobody here likes that solo on RS makes me really sad. It makes me think that people need to listen to Adam with their ears and not their fingers.

Honestly, I don't see a lot of difference between Adam's solos on this album and some Meshuggah solos I've heard. To my ears, the passage in question could easily pass for Meshuggah, actually.

EDIT: And I'm pretty sure the Chevelle guy could come sing on the next album and everyone would just say "Hm, I guess Maynard's voice got a little higher." You'll always have Danny there to be like "Hey, instead of just singing about your mom, why don't we make it kind of sound like you're singing about Satan."
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

maybe devo's got a set of pipes.....
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The fact that nobody here likes that solo on RS makes me really sad. It makes me think that people need to listen to Adam with their ears and not their fingers.

Honestly, I don't see a lot of difference between Adam's solos on this album and some Meshuggah solos I've heard. To my ears, the passage in question could easily pass for Meshuggah, actually.

EDIT: And I'm pretty sure the Chevelle guy could come sing on the next album and everyone would just say "Hm, I guess Maynard's voice got a little higher." You'll always have Danny there to be like "Hey, instead of just singing about your mom, why don't we make it kind of sound like you're singing about Satan."
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

Hard for me to imagine this band with a different line-up... things just wouldn't be the same.

No way, I say.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

It'd be sweet if Maynard was still helping out A Perfect Circle, so he does a new album with them after this tour, and the Tool guys work on an instrumental album. That would kick ass. But Maynard would return to Tool after APC. But, since no more APC, guess that can't happen.

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if tool was to be replaced......

Adam - Tom Morello,

After hearing a BL i think from bonaroo with morello jamming on lateralus i was convinced he has NOTHING to do near Tool.
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

All four members of Tool are IRREPLACEABLE. But, I'll have some fun imagine Tool as...


Maynard James Keenan = Cedric Bixler-Zavala
Adam Jones = Tom Morello
Justin Chancellor = Jeordie White
Danny Carey = Coady Willis
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