|
|
Why would it take another whole year? And if so, why would they already have a potential release date so far in the future?
If the date is about right, that's 6 years coming. Longer than the last one. :(
05-27-2011, 01:49 AM
|
#281
|
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
Join Date: May 2010
Location: London
|
Re: New Tool Album
Why would it take another whole year? And if so, why would they already have a potential release date so far in the future?
If the date is about right, that's 6 years coming. Longer than the last one. :(
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
Over a year ago already was when Blair said they had started writing in earnest.
05-27-2011, 01:52 AM
|
#282
|
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
Join Date: May 2010
Location: London
|
Re: New Tool Album
Over a year ago already was when Blair said they had started writing in earnest.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
05-27-2011, 02:01 AM
extra year = extra album and live DVD plz
__________________
The Church of Macho Man Randy Savage
Time distortion, space is the place, go down that lonesome highway, but don't be hypnotized. Reincarnation does not have to be. (Mean Gene I 2:3-4)
05-27-2011, 02:01 AM
|
#283
|
Level 13 - Nothing Can Defeat the Quad Laser
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 9,029
Bincount™: 1020
|
Re: New Tool Album
extra year = extra album and live DVD plz
__________________
The Church of Macho Man Randy Savage
Time distortion, space is the place, go down that lonesome highway, but don't be hypnotized. Reincarnation does not have to be. (Mean Gene I 2:3-4)
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
05-27-2011, 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysoultheunderground
Why would it take another whole year? And if so, why would they already have a potential release date so far in the future?
If the date is about right, that's 6 years coming. Longer than the last one. :(
|
Well they're not hitting the studio anytime before August due to the APC tour.
Given that 10k Days was recorded in August 05 and released in April the following year, May would be a reasonable assumption for a release date, regardless of how accurate Blair's prediction may or may not be.
Last edited by hellboy1975; 05-27-2011 at 02:03 AM..
05-27-2011, 02:02 AM
|
#284
|
crows before hoes
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: fourtheye.net
Posts: 8,273
Bincount™: 8619
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysoultheunderground
Why would it take another whole year? And if so, why would they already have a potential release date so far in the future?
If the date is about right, that's 6 years coming. Longer than the last one. :(
|
Well they're not hitting the studio anytime before August due to the APC tour.
Given that 10k Days was recorded in August 05 and released in April the following year, May would be a reasonable assumption for a release date, regardless of how accurate Blair's prediction may or may not be.
Last edited by hellboy1975; 05-27-2011 at 02:03 AM..
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
05-27-2011, 09:21 AM
and they play third eye back to back to back for an hour and a half
__________________
enjoy whatever tool existence there is left
find a comfortable space, comfortable yet venerable and enjoy the music.
05-27-2011, 09:21 AM
|
#285
|
Level 7 - Loquacious
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: maynards ass
|
Re: New Tool Album
and they play third eye back to back to back for an hour and a half
__________________
enjoy whatever tool existence there is left
find a comfortable space, comfortable yet venerable and enjoy the music.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnadd
and they play third eye back to back to back for an hour and a half
|
This is what I want to see.
05-27-2011, 09:46 AM
|
#286
|
Banned.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Confidential
Posts: 201
Bincount™: 310
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnadd
and they play third eye back to back to back for an hour and a half
|
This is what I want to see.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
05-28-2011, 07:32 PM
WTF why would you release an album the day the world ends. Fucking stupid business decision.
05-28-2011, 07:32 PM
|
#287
|
Level 8 - Vociferous
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Potatolandia
|
Re: New Tool Album
WTF why would you release an album the day the world ends. Fucking stupid business decision.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
05-29-2011, 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
WTF why would you release an album the day the world ends. Fucking stupid business decision.
|
i have so much to ask you, future man...
__________________
The Church of Macho Man Randy Savage
Time distortion, space is the place, go down that lonesome highway, but don't be hypnotized. Reincarnation does not have to be. (Mean Gene I 2:3-4)
05-29-2011, 10:56 AM
|
#288
|
Level 13 - Nothing Can Defeat the Quad Laser
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 9,029
Bincount™: 1020
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
WTF why would you release an album the day the world ends. Fucking stupid business decision.
|
i have so much to ask you, future man...
__________________
The Church of Macho Man Randy Savage
Time distortion, space is the place, go down that lonesome highway, but don't be hypnotized. Reincarnation does not have to be. (Mean Gene I 2:3-4)
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-01-2011, 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
WTF why would you release an album the day the world ends. Fucking stupid business decision.
|
I think that's the point dewd
__________________
"You think my lack of tact is bad, which is subjective. Personally I think it's great." -misanthrope
06-01-2011, 04:52 PM
|
#289
|
Level 11 - Clamorous
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 3,750
Bincount™: 3988
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
WTF why would you release an album the day the world ends. Fucking stupid business decision.
|
I think that's the point dewd
__________________
"You think my lack of tact is bad, which is subjective. Personally I think it's great." -misanthrope
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Who says that the world is going to end may 22nd 2012?
06-01-2011, 05:03 PM
|
#290
|
Just chillin
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,540
Bincount™: 16
|
Re: New Tool Album
Who says that the world is going to end may 22nd 2012?
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel
Who says that the world is going to end may 22nd 2012?
|
The world may not end per se, only the world as we know it:
"I suggest that we have entirely misunderstood the character of time. We are not being pushed by the force of causal necessity; we human beings, like the rest of nature, are reacting to the siren song of the transcendental object at the end of time. We are on a collision course with an event for which there is barely language. We are on a collision course with a temporal vortex of some sort."
Tool's next album is, perhaps, the Trancendental Object at the End of Time. Terrence McKenna predicted it.
__________________
"I think everyone should treat one another in a Christian manner. I will not, however, be responsible for the consequences."
06-02-2011, 10:34 AM
|
#291
|
Level 8 - Vociferous
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: California
Posts: 655
Bincount™: 104
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel
Who says that the world is going to end may 22nd 2012?
|
The world may not end per se, only the world as we know it:
"I suggest that we have entirely misunderstood the character of time. We are not being pushed by the force of causal necessity; we human beings, like the rest of nature, are reacting to the siren song of the transcendental object at the end of time. We are on a collision course with an event for which there is barely language. We are on a collision course with a temporal vortex of some sort."
Tool's next album is, perhaps, the Trancendental Object at the End of Time. Terrence McKenna predicted it.
__________________
"I think everyone should treat one another in a Christian manner. I will not, however, be responsible for the consequences."
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
i just hope i get laid before then
06-02-2011, 11:07 AM
|
#292
|
On Probation
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,016
Bincount™: 7922
|
Re: New Tool Album
i just hope i get laid before then
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 11:37 AM
Me too. Let's kill two birds with one stone, eh Crinc?
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
06-02-2011, 11:37 AM
|
#293
|
Level 9 - Obstreperous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: canada
Posts: 1,292
Bincount™: 67
|
Re: New Tool Album
Me too. Let's kill two birds with one stone, eh Crinc?
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 12:11 PM
|
#294
|
On Probation
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,016
Bincount™: 7922
|
Re: New Tool Album
ew!
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 01:48 PM
Crincled, what is your avatar? It is blowing my mind. I recently had to make a chart that illustrated every possible combination of 5 on/off variables (color coded for on and off) and it reminds me of that, but with far more colors.
06-02-2011, 01:48 PM
|
#295
|
Just chillin
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,540
Bincount™: 16
|
Re: New Tool Album
Crincled, what is your avatar? It is blowing my mind. I recently had to make a chart that illustrated every possible combination of 5 on/off variables (color coded for on and off) and it reminds me of that, but with far more colors.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The June newsletter just made it clear that Blair was full of shit with the release dates.
I am so fucking sick of that asshat.
|
yeah, fuck anyone who gives us Tool news
06-02-2011, 04:19 PM
|
#296
|
crows before hoes
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: fourtheye.net
Posts: 8,273
Bincount™: 8619
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The June newsletter just made it clear that Blair was full of shit with the release dates.
I am so fucking sick of that asshat.
|
yeah, fuck anyone who gives us Tool news
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 04:22 PM
The onion for rock 'n roll news.
06-02-2011, 04:22 PM
|
#297
|
Level 10 - Vehement
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: a field of dreams
Posts: 2,358
Bincount™: 4198
|
Re: New Tool Album
The onion for rock 'n roll news.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The June newsletter just made it clear that Blair was full of shit with the release dates.
I am so fucking sick of that asshat.
|
you actually believed him? joke's on you buddy
__________________
09.08.01 06.15.07 06.17.07 06.23.07 06.29.07 08.07.09 08.08.09 06.25.10 06.26.10 01.24.12 02.04.12 06.23.12 01.22.16 01.23.16 06.07.17 06.08.17 05.20.18 05.08.19 11.02.19 01.29.20 03.04.22 03.18.22 05.25.23
06-02-2011, 05:30 PM
|
#298
|
Level 8 - Vociferous
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: indy
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The June newsletter just made it clear that Blair was full of shit with the release dates.
I am so fucking sick of that asshat.
|
you actually believed him? joke's on you buddy
__________________
09.08.01 06.15.07 06.17.07 06.23.07 06.29.07 08.07.09 08.08.09 06.25.10 06.26.10 01.24.12 02.04.12 06.23.12 01.22.16 01.23.16 06.07.17 06.08.17 05.20.18 05.08.19 11.02.19 01.29.20 03.04.22 03.18.22 05.25.23
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The June newsletter just made it clear that Blair was full of shit with the release dates.
I am so fucking sick of that asshat.
|
Yeah, he seemed really serious in the May newsletter about a release date. It didn't resemble a parody of the Camping BS at all...
06-02-2011, 09:17 PM
|
#299
|
Banned.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Confidential
Posts: 201
Bincount™: 310
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The June newsletter just made it clear that Blair was full of shit with the release dates.
I am so fucking sick of that asshat.
|
Yeah, he seemed really serious in the May newsletter about a release date. It didn't resemble a parody of the Camping BS at all...
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-02-2011, 09:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crincled
ew!
|
I take umbrage, sir.
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
06-02-2011, 09:45 PM
|
#300
|
Level 9 - Obstreperous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: canada
Posts: 1,292
Bincount™: 67
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by crincled
ew!
|
I take umbrage, sir.
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Underalus
I take umbrage, sir.
|
WHAT DO YOU THINK I DID
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel
Crincled, what is your avatar? It is blowing my mind. I recently had to make a chart that illustrated every possible combination of 5 on/off variables (color coded for on and off) and it reminds me of that, but with far more colors.
|
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/AlternatingGroup.html
it's related to my research rite meow
search out the buckminsterfullerene for further mindblowing
edit: tell me more about your multiplication table...
Last edited by crincled; 06-03-2011 at 04:31 PM..
06-03-2011, 04:27 PM
|
#301
|
On Probation
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,016
Bincount™: 7922
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Underalus
I take umbrage, sir.
|
WHAT DO YOU THINK I DID
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel
Crincled, what is your avatar? It is blowing my mind. I recently had to make a chart that illustrated every possible combination of 5 on/off variables (color coded for on and off) and it reminds me of that, but with far more colors.
|
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/AlternatingGroup.html
it's related to my research rite meow
search out the buckminsterfullerene for further mindblowing
edit: tell me more about your multiplication table...
Last edited by crincled; 06-03-2011 at 04:31 PM..
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-03-2011, 07:18 PM
crinc, are you math/applied math/physics? What's your work about.
I'm a physics man myself.
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
06-03-2011, 07:18 PM
|
#302
|
Level 9 - Obstreperous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: canada
Posts: 1,292
Bincount™: 67
|
Re: New Tool Album
crinc, are you math/applied math/physics? What's your work about.
I'm a physics man myself.
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
mathematician in da house. doing some module theory, representation theory... in short: algebra. :-o
you?
06-04-2011, 04:07 AM
|
#303
|
On Probation
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,016
Bincount™: 7922
|
Re: New Tool Album
mathematician in da house. doing some module theory, representation theory... in short: algebra. :-o
you?
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-04-2011, 09:47 AM
Starting a master's in the fall. My old lab project was based in alternative metal oxide substrates for a new generation of MOSFETs. Basically trying to work out the kinks in materials other than silicon (my lab was trying to work with tantalum) to scale down the size of current semi-conductors. I had more of an engineering role, but it was good. I want to keep doing condensed matter or soft condensed matter as I go on. Maybe throw in some bio applications so I can actually make some money.
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
06-04-2011, 09:47 AM
|
#304
|
Level 9 - Obstreperous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: canada
Posts: 1,292
Bincount™: 67
|
Re: New Tool Album
Starting a master's in the fall. My old lab project was based in alternative metal oxide substrates for a new generation of MOSFETs. Basically trying to work out the kinks in materials other than silicon (my lab was trying to work with tantalum) to scale down the size of current semi-conductors. I had more of an engineering role, but it was good. I want to keep doing condensed matter or soft condensed matter as I go on. Maybe throw in some bio applications so I can actually make some money.
__________________
Fucks Given: 1
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-05-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm probably alone on this but I actually want to see Tool go the more experimental route versus turning back to AEnima and Lateralus for inspiration. I feel like they've gotten that message across for that era of music and it landed at such a crucial time for society (both albums). We all know Maynard can't do screams like he used to, so trying to write music with such passion and anger wouldn't sound nearly as good. I actually like 10K Days as I feel it's Tool's most accessible album, if anything for not being as long winded or heavy as their previous albums, this ones definitely more focused on other things and if their next album can sound as good as 10K Days then I am not gonna complain in the slightest.
__________________
"Religion is the opium of the masses" -Karl Marx
06-05-2011, 11:23 PM
|
#305
|
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Washington
|
Re: New Tool Album
I'm probably alone on this but I actually want to see Tool go the more experimental route versus turning back to AEnima and Lateralus for inspiration. I feel like they've gotten that message across for that era of music and it landed at such a crucial time for society (both albums). We all know Maynard can't do screams like he used to, so trying to write music with such passion and anger wouldn't sound nearly as good. I actually like 10K Days as I feel it's Tool's most accessible album, if anything for not being as long winded or heavy as their previous albums, this ones definitely more focused on other things and if their next album can sound as good as 10K Days then I am not gonna complain in the slightest.
__________________
"Religion is the opium of the masses" -Karl Marx
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 07:17 AM
i want to see more electronic experimenting thats for sure. show off danny's other skills.
but overall id really just like to see them making music that makes them happy.
06-06-2011, 07:17 AM
|
#306
|
homer jay
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wtvl, Maine
Posts: 6,067
Bincount™: 4656
|
Re: New Tool Album
i want to see more electronic experimenting thats for sure. show off danny's other skills.
but overall id really just like to see them making music that makes them happy.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 10:10 AM
All I care about is that they master the/a new album correctly. That's it.
__________________
I'm having the most perfect hallucination.
06-06-2011, 10:10 AM
|
#307
|
gaufre
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: sea of tranquility
Posts: 559
Bincount™: 234
|
Re: New Tool Album
All I care about is that they master the/a new album correctly. That's it.
__________________
I'm having the most perfect hallucination.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62827
I feel like they've gotten that message across for that era of music
|
I tend to agree with you sir.
This can be understood in a different way, however, when you consider the band's music as a cathartic device, so to speak. I was very struck by MJK's comments in which he described the live performance of some of the band's material as "opening old wounds" (yes, I'm paraphrasing). These comments were delivered during the period in which the band was beginning to play "Wings/10kd" live for the first time. And it seemed to me that MJK was regretful of the fact that he had to perform this particular piece of music night after night. Generally speaking, he seemed regretful that he had even addressed personal issues in his lyrics at all.
So I wonder what his approach will be to this next record. I tend to view 10kd as a schitzophrenic album of sorts. There was a great deal of drug humor silliness(The Pot, Lost Keys, Rosetta Stones) mixed with a lot of uber-personal introspection (Wings, 10kd, Right in Two). Despite it being a "fun album" in my opinion, these two concepts never really coalesced for me. I mean, lets be real, what is the connection between drug humor and the death of MJKs mother? This question haunts me whenever I listen to the record.
So for the next album I hope MJK only gets serious about things he won't regret later, if you know what I mean. IMO, MJK is the only unpredictable member of the band at this point. With Danny, Justin and Adam, you know what you are going to get. For MJK though, it seems likely to me that the "sophmoric silliness" that is the Puscifer project, is a reaction to the more solemn aesthetic that is Tool. This could indicate that when MJK puts his "Tool hat" back on, he will be less inclined to write humorous, Rosetta Stoned-style lyrics. Maybe, maybe not. Who really knows right?
__________________
"I think everyone should treat one another in a Christian manner. I will not, however, be responsible for the consequences."
06-06-2011, 10:19 AM
|
#308
|
Level 8 - Vociferous
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: California
Posts: 655
Bincount™: 104
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62827
I feel like they've gotten that message across for that era of music
|
I tend to agree with you sir.
This can be understood in a different way, however, when you consider the band's music as a cathartic device, so to speak. I was very struck by MJK's comments in which he described the live performance of some of the band's material as "opening old wounds" (yes, I'm paraphrasing). These comments were delivered during the period in which the band was beginning to play "Wings/10kd" live for the first time. And it seemed to me that MJK was regretful of the fact that he had to perform this particular piece of music night after night. Generally speaking, he seemed regretful that he had even addressed personal issues in his lyrics at all.
So I wonder what his approach will be to this next record. I tend to view 10kd as a schitzophrenic album of sorts. There was a great deal of drug humor silliness(The Pot, Lost Keys, Rosetta Stones) mixed with a lot of uber-personal introspection (Wings, 10kd, Right in Two). Despite it being a "fun album" in my opinion, these two concepts never really coalesced for me. I mean, lets be real, what is the connection between drug humor and the death of MJKs mother? This question haunts me whenever I listen to the record.
So for the next album I hope MJK only gets serious about things he won't regret later, if you know what I mean. IMO, MJK is the only unpredictable member of the band at this point. With Danny, Justin and Adam, you know what you are going to get. For MJK though, it seems likely to me that the "sophmoric silliness" that is the Puscifer project, is a reaction to the more solemn aesthetic that is Tool. This could indicate that when MJK puts his "Tool hat" back on, he will be less inclined to write humorous, Rosetta Stoned-style lyrics. Maybe, maybe not. Who really knows right?
__________________
"I think everyone should treat one another in a Christian manner. I will not, however, be responsible for the consequences."
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 10:56 AM
I want to hear Danny break out the Chapman Stick.
Lets hear what that man can do with strings.
__________________
Plea bargin'd into being a Self-Admitted-Alias.
"Shut up bitch. Get back to me after you try peeing from a vagina into a cup in public through your jeans." - Pala Cósmico
06-06-2011, 10:56 AM
|
#309
|
Level 10 - Vehement
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: 709ft ASL
Posts: 2,230
Bincount™: 3860
|
Re: New Tool Album
I want to hear Danny break out the Chapman Stick.
Lets hear what that man can do with strings.
__________________
Plea bargin'd into being a Self-Admitted-Alias.
"Shut up bitch. Get back to me after you try peeing from a vagina into a cup in public through your jeans." - Pala Cósmico
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 12:03 PM
he should get two Chapman sticks, and play his drums with them
06-06-2011, 12:03 PM
|
#310
|
Super Bat Kiss
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbusland
Posts: 6,164
Bincount™: 9554
|
Re: New Tool Album
he should get two Chapman sticks, and play his drums with them
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crincled
edit: tell me more about your multiplication table...
|
I'm currently working on a project which generates a price sensitive forecast for a major cruise line company. For my portion of the project, we wanted to pick 5 different key variables, segment the data by every combination of those variables (all of them, all combinations of 4 of them, etc.), and see how the results turned out for each one. I accomplished this by loading all of the possible segmentation levels into a table in oracle which our statistical package then interpreted (replacing variables with nulls, thus making segmentation by said variables irrelevant).
To construct the table, I first created a row where all were marked as "Y." The only ones I toggle are in the middle (switch from white to green). I then copied that one row and swapped the first cell that I want toggled (making it white). I then copied both of those rows, pasted them back, and swapped the second column for that new block (switching it to white). I repeated this process for each variable I wanted swapped, doubling the size of the table each time. The result is a cool fractal-ish ("ish" might not be necessary if this is actually considered a fractal) table that includes every possible combination of my variables in a format that I can use and with very little work required on my part.
Here is a pic:
For fun, I also tried it with three possible states for each variable (1,2,3 rather than Y/N) and used conditional formatting to assign colors based on the color of each cell (same thing that I did here, but with an additional color). It also looked pretty sweet.
Last edited by Neel; 06-06-2011 at 01:20 PM..
06-06-2011, 01:18 PM
|
#311
|
Just chillin
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,540
Bincount™: 16
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by crincled
edit: tell me more about your multiplication table...
|
I'm currently working on a project which generates a price sensitive forecast for a major cruise line company. For my portion of the project, we wanted to pick 5 different key variables, segment the data by every combination of those variables (all of them, all combinations of 4 of them, etc.), and see how the results turned out for each one. I accomplished this by loading all of the possible segmentation levels into a table in oracle which our statistical package then interpreted (replacing variables with nulls, thus making segmentation by said variables irrelevant).
To construct the table, I first created a row where all were marked as "Y." The only ones I toggle are in the middle (switch from white to green). I then copied that one row and swapped the first cell that I want toggled (making it white). I then copied both of those rows, pasted them back, and swapped the second column for that new block (switching it to white). I repeated this process for each variable I wanted swapped, doubling the size of the table each time. The result is a cool fractal-ish ("ish" might not be necessary if this is actually considered a fractal) table that includes every possible combination of my variables in a format that I can use and with very little work required on my part.
Here is a pic:
For fun, I also tried it with three possible states for each variable (1,2,3 rather than Y/N) and used conditional formatting to assign colors based on the color of each cell (same thing that I did here, but with an additional color). It also looked pretty sweet.
Last edited by Neel; 06-06-2011 at 01:20 PM..
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5th Eye
he should get two Chapman sticks, and play his drums with them
|
O_O
faps
__________________
Plea bargin'd into being a Self-Admitted-Alias.
"Shut up bitch. Get back to me after you try peeing from a vagina into a cup in public through your jeans." - Pala Cósmico
06-06-2011, 02:03 PM
|
#312
|
Level 10 - Vehement
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: 709ft ASL
Posts: 2,230
Bincount™: 3860
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5th Eye
he should get two Chapman sticks, and play his drums with them
|
O_O
faps
__________________
Plea bargin'd into being a Self-Admitted-Alias.
"Shut up bitch. Get back to me after you try peeing from a vagina into a cup in public through your jeans." - Pala Cósmico
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vein
All I care about is that they master the/a new album correctly. That's it.
|
I know man, let's reverse the slippery slope they're on now. I want something that sounds sexy like Undertow.
__________________
"You think my lack of tact is bad, which is subjective. Personally I think it's great." -misanthrope
06-06-2011, 02:39 PM
|
#313
|
Level 11 - Clamorous
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 3,750
Bincount™: 3988
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vein
All I care about is that they master the/a new album correctly. That's it.
|
I know man, let's reverse the slippery slope they're on now. I want something that sounds sexy like Undertow.
__________________
"You think my lack of tact is bad, which is subjective. Personally I think it's great." -misanthrope
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-06-2011, 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62827
I'm probably alone on this but I actually want to see Tool go the more experimental route versus turning back to AEnima and Lateralus for inspiration. I feel like they've gotten that message across for that era of music and it landed at such a crucial time for society (both albums). We all know Maynard can't do screams like he used to, so trying to write music with such passion and anger wouldn't sound nearly as good. I actually like 10K Days as I feel it's Tool's most accessible album, if anything for not being as long winded or heavy as their previous albums, this ones definitely more focused on other things and if their next album can sound as good as 10K Days then I am not gonna complain in the slightest.
|
agreed.
i can see them going down the jambi/intension road. songs along those lines.
06-06-2011, 05:21 PM
|
#314
|
greetings from planet x
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: nowhere indefinitely
Posts: 1,322
Bincount™: 1062
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62827
I'm probably alone on this but I actually want to see Tool go the more experimental route versus turning back to AEnima and Lateralus for inspiration. I feel like they've gotten that message across for that era of music and it landed at such a crucial time for society (both albums). We all know Maynard can't do screams like he used to, so trying to write music with such passion and anger wouldn't sound nearly as good. I actually like 10K Days as I feel it's Tool's most accessible album, if anything for not being as long winded or heavy as their previous albums, this ones definitely more focused on other things and if their next album can sound as good as 10K Days then I am not gonna complain in the slightest.
|
agreed.
i can see them going down the jambi/intension road. songs along those lines.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-07-2011, 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel
I'm currently working on a project which generates a price sensitive forecast for a major cruise line company. For my portion of the project, we wanted to pick 5 different key variables, segment the data by every combination of those variables (all of them, all combinations of 4 of them, etc.), and see how the results turned out for each one. I accomplished this by loading all of the possible segmentation levels into a table in oracle which our statistical package then interpreted (replacing variables with nulls, thus making segmentation by said variables irrelevant).
To construct the table, I first created a row where all were marked as "Y." The only ones I toggle are in the middle (switch from white to green). I then copied that one row and swapped the first cell that I want toggled (making it white). I then copied both of those rows, pasted them back, and swapped the second column for that new block (switching it to white). I repeated this process for each variable I wanted swapped, doubling the size of the table each time. The result is a cool fractal-ish ("ish" might not be necessary if this is actually considered a fractal) table that includes every possible combination of my variables in a format that I can use and with very little work required on my part.
Here is a pic:
For fun, I also tried it with three possible states for each variable (1,2,3 rather than Y/N) and used conditional formatting to assign colors based on the color of each cell (same thing that I did here, but with an additional color). It also looked pretty sweet.
|
Seems like a lot of work that a VAR two line command could have done in 20 seconds.
06-07-2011, 01:14 PM
|
#315
|
Level 8 - Vociferous
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Potatolandia
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel
I'm currently working on a project which generates a price sensitive forecast for a major cruise line company. For my portion of the project, we wanted to pick 5 different key variables, segment the data by every combination of those variables (all of them, all combinations of 4 of them, etc.), and see how the results turned out for each one. I accomplished this by loading all of the possible segmentation levels into a table in oracle which our statistical package then interpreted (replacing variables with nulls, thus making segmentation by said variables irrelevant).
To construct the table, I first created a row where all were marked as "Y." The only ones I toggle are in the middle (switch from white to green). I then copied that one row and swapped the first cell that I want toggled (making it white). I then copied both of those rows, pasted them back, and swapped the second column for that new block (switching it to white). I repeated this process for each variable I wanted swapped, doubling the size of the table each time. The result is a cool fractal-ish ("ish" might not be necessary if this is actually considered a fractal) table that includes every possible combination of my variables in a format that I can use and with very little work required on my part.
Here is a pic:
For fun, I also tried it with three possible states for each variable (1,2,3 rather than Y/N) and used conditional formatting to assign colors based on the color of each cell (same thing that I did here, but with an additional color). It also looked pretty sweet.
|
Seems like a lot of work that a VAR two line command could have done in 20 seconds.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-07-2011, 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
Seems like a lot of work that a VAR two line command could have done in 20 seconds.
|
Care to elaborate?
__________________
Tower Theatre, PA - 5/17/06 | City Center, NY - 5/20/06
Camden, NJ - 9/28/06 | Meadowlands, NJ - 10/06/06
Atlantic City, NJ - 6/09/07 | Holmdel, NJ - 7/18/07
Atlanta, GA - 7/27/09 | Fairfax, VA - 7/30/09
All Points West, NJ - 8/01/09
Kansas City, MO - 6/25/10 | St. Louis, MO - 6/26/10
Sacramento, CA - 7/13/10
06-07-2011, 05:12 PM
|
#316
|
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: PA
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
Seems like a lot of work that a VAR two line command could have done in 20 seconds.
|
Care to elaborate?
__________________
Tower Theatre, PA - 5/17/06 | City Center, NY - 5/20/06
Camden, NJ - 9/28/06 | Meadowlands, NJ - 10/06/06
Atlantic City, NJ - 6/09/07 | Holmdel, NJ - 7/18/07
Atlanta, GA - 7/27/09 | Fairfax, VA - 7/30/09
All Points West, NJ - 8/01/09
Kansas City, MO - 6/25/10 | St. Louis, MO - 6/26/10
Sacramento, CA - 7/13/10
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-07-2011, 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
Seems like a lot of work that a VAR two line command could have done in 20 seconds.
|
Given that I have no idea what a var command is, whether it is even applicable to the programs I am using, and that the magic of the copy and paste key allowed me to create my table in less than thirty seconds, I think the way that I did it was fine.
06-07-2011, 05:24 PM
|
#317
|
Just chillin
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,540
Bincount™: 16
|
Re: New Tool Album
Quote:
Originally Posted by asymptotic
Seems like a lot of work that a VAR two line command could have done in 20 seconds.
|
Given that I have no idea what a var command is, whether it is even applicable to the programs I am using, and that the magic of the copy and paste key allowed me to create my table in less than thirty seconds, I think the way that I did it was fine.
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-07-2011, 09:31 PM
vector autoregression
06-07-2011, 09:31 PM
|
#318
|
Level 8 - Vociferous
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Potatolandia
|
Re: New Tool Album
vector autoregression
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-08-2011, 05:51 AM
Off topic much?
__________________
Plea bargin'd into being a Self-Admitted-Alias.
"Shut up bitch. Get back to me after you try peeing from a vagina into a cup in public through your jeans." - Pala Cósmico
06-08-2011, 05:51 AM
|
#319
|
Level 10 - Vehement
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: 709ft ASL
Posts: 2,230
Bincount™: 3860
|
Re: New Tool Album
Off topic much?
__________________
Plea bargin'd into being a Self-Admitted-Alias.
"Shut up bitch. Get back to me after you try peeing from a vagina into a cup in public through your jeans." - Pala Cósmico
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
06-08-2011, 06:01 AM
LOVE IT OR SHOVE IT
__________________
as above so below me
06-08-2011, 06:01 AM
|
#320
|
be happy with what you have to be happy with Suicide Booth ID: 2
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: dirty south
Posts: 2,923
Bincount™: 18992
|
Re: New Tool Album
LOVE IT OR SHOVE IT
__________________
as above so below me
|
OFFLINE |
|
|
Powered by: vBulletin 3.8.7 Patch Level 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
all posts © their respective authors. the tool page is not responsible for any of their thoughts, brilliant or otherwise.
|