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07-22-2003, 05:29 PM
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You have to listen to my band. We have been recording for a while and are about to release our first album. Definitely should appeal to Tool fans.

http://listen.to/uberground
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Uberground

You have to listen to my band. We have been recording for a while and are about to release our first album. Definitely should appeal to Tool fans.

http://listen.to/uberground
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07-26-2003, 12:29 PM
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That didnt seem like something I HAD to listen to. In fact, I found it to be nothing more than someone mumbling conspiracy theories into a microphone with some sloppy chords thrown in the background.

Thats my opinion anyway. Dont let it discourage you.
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That didnt seem like something I HAD to listen to. In fact, I found it to be nothing more than someone mumbling conspiracy theories into a microphone with some sloppy chords thrown in the background.

Thats my opinion anyway. Dont let it discourage you.
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07-26-2003, 02:49 PM
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i dont know, this seems like a joke to me...if not, im sorry, cus it sounds that way.

all the songs start with uber...
im sorry but... this music doesnt like me and i dont like it...

actualy i actualy listened to this shit...and i do not like it, constructively... get some better structure...add some drums... because tapping ona gutiar wont work. and...get some better production.

and what the hell was with ripping off tool? ubermessage? fuck...

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"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

i personaly think its trash, and i dont like gladiator...nor do i like celine dion...what does that make me? and exception?

anggryy from a jokeeee ERR

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i dont know, this seems like a joke to me...if not, im sorry, cus it sounds that way.

all the songs start with uber...
im sorry but... this music doesnt like me and i dont like it...

actualy i actualy listened to this shit...and i do not like it, constructively... get some better structure...add some drums... because tapping ona gutiar wont work. and...get some better production.

and what the hell was with ripping off tool? ubermessage? fuck...

Quotes:

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

i personaly think its trash, and i dont like gladiator...nor do i like celine dion...what does that make me? and exception?

anggryy from a jokeeee ERR

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08-02-2003, 07:33 AM
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I understand. Our experimental structure seems to put many off. However, it will be the wave of the future. Look out for us.
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I understand. Our experimental structure seems to put many off. However, it will be the wave of the future. Look out for us.
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I understand. Our experimental structure seems to put many off. However, it will be the wave of the future. Look out for us.
I sure hope not...

Ahh yes... and I see the writings on your webite are filled with brilliant references to "The Man". The age-old technique, used by those who cannot name a culprit for their social displeasure, one that is most likely themselves.
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Re: Uberground

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I understand. Our experimental structure seems to put many off. However, it will be the wave of the future. Look out for us.
I sure hope not...

Ahh yes... and I see the writings on your webite are filled with brilliant references to "The Man". The age-old technique, used by those who cannot name a culprit for their social displeasure, one that is most likely themselves.
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08-02-2003, 10:12 AM
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well than, i believe noise wave and glitch geek is the wave of the future.. its just all musical preference isnt it? but, despite that, i dont see anything too experimental with your structure or chords or anything it just seems to be sloppy and somewhat out of tune...

...to break the rules you must know them first...
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well than, i believe noise wave and glitch geek is the wave of the future.. its just all musical preference isnt it? but, despite that, i dont see anything too experimental with your structure or chords or anything it just seems to be sloppy and somewhat out of tune...

...to break the rules you must know them first...
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08-02-2003, 10:18 AM
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You are buying into exactly what the man wants you to, you easily-led fools.
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You are buying into exactly what the man wants you to, you easily-led fools.
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08-02-2003, 10:22 AM
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...the man...
What was that Mr. Genious?
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...the man...
What was that Mr. Genious?
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08-02-2003, 10:30 AM
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Your mind is obviously closed to our message.
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Your mind is obviously closed to our message.
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08-02-2003, 10:35 AM
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yeah, fUck... i Better takE off my sheep costume cus im Ripe for the pickinG by the man. seRiOUsly. everyday im walkiNg arounD and this guyS always following me telling me what to do...im just like... hey MAN fUck off... than i go home, and hes on the tv talKing about how i Should listen to good music and stuff, like what the fuck is this?... so im just like, dude, im gonna make some trippy as crazy shit ok? be experimental yo, take that MAN...
im glad you braught this shit to my attention... ive finaly opened my eyes...and my mind from this government brainwash shit. even the Canadian government is getting in on this shit, seriously. I saw the PM tAlking about facisM the oTher day, i tHink hEs facist, or MAybe its the maN! trying to make me think hes facist i dunno man, but im starting to question alot of shit now that you braught uberground to my attention its really enlightning you know....fuck homes... good shit.

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yeah, fUck... i Better takE off my sheep costume cus im Ripe for the pickinG by the man. seRiOUsly. everyday im walkiNg arounD and this guyS always following me telling me what to do...im just like... hey MAN fUck off... than i go home, and hes on the tv talKing about how i Should listen to good music and stuff, like what the fuck is this?... so im just like, dude, im gonna make some trippy as crazy shit ok? be experimental yo, take that MAN...
im glad you braught this shit to my attention... ive finaly opened my eyes...and my mind from this government brainwash shit. even the Canadian government is getting in on this shit, seriously. I saw the PM tAlking about facisM the oTher day, i tHink hEs facist, or MAybe its the maN! trying to make me think hes facist i dunno man, but im starting to question alot of shit now that you braught uberground to my attention its really enlightning you know....fuck homes... good shit.

-Admirer

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08-02-2003, 10:38 AM
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I feel sorry for you. You are so restricted by the chains of society that you feel you have to act out your rage upon truthtellers like me and my labelmates. Go back to your imprisoned existence until you are actually ready to escape.
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I feel sorry for you. You are so restricted by the chains of society that you feel you have to act out your rage upon truthtellers like me and my labelmates. Go back to your imprisoned existence until you are actually ready to escape.
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08-02-2003, 10:40 AM
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No man, cant you see, i finaly realised you were right, you were after all trying to convince me, right? yeah well i see now dude... its so clear...
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No man, cant you see, i finaly realised you were right, you were after all trying to convince me, right? yeah well i see now dude... its so clear...
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08-02-2003, 10:43 AM
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If you are truly changed than I am glad. Our album will be out soon.

If not shut the fuck up.
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If you are truly changed than I am glad. Our album will be out soon.

If not shut the fuck up.
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08-02-2003, 10:45 AM
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where would i be able to get ahold of this piece?
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where would i be able to get ahold of this piece?
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08-02-2003, 10:46 AM
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On our website
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08-02-2003, 10:57 AM
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No man, cant you see, i finaly realised you were right, you were after all trying to convince me, right? yeah well i see now dude... its so clear...
You dumbass... how dare you buy into his shit. "OHHH THE MAN ASS-RAPES ME EVERY DAMN DAY, BLAH BLAH BLAH"... Well maybe if you didnt like it so much he would stop!!! Goddamn, I hate these fucking annoying conspiracy theories... I am the man... and I did enjoy fucking you in the ass last night.

so fuck you and your fucking mother
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Re: Uberground

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No man, cant you see, i finaly realised you were right, you were after all trying to convince me, right? yeah well i see now dude... its so clear...
You dumbass... how dare you buy into his shit. "OHHH THE MAN ASS-RAPES ME EVERY DAMN DAY, BLAH BLAH BLAH"... Well maybe if you didnt like it so much he would stop!!! Goddamn, I hate these fucking annoying conspiracy theories... I am the man... and I did enjoy fucking you in the ass last night.

so fuck you and your fucking mother
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08-02-2003, 10:59 AM
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Shut up! You just don't see the light. Don't mock me because I do. Go throw in another Celine album and leave this board.
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Shut up! You just don't see the light. Don't mock me because I do. Go throw in another Celine album and leave this board.
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08-02-2003, 11:02 AM
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"you can run as fast as you can, but you can never outrun your cliche."
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"you can run as fast as you can, but you can never outrun your cliche."
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Shut up! You just don't see the light. Don't mock me because I do. Go throw in another Celine album and leave this board.
Celine is God... and if I had one wish it would be to become just like Her...
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Shut up! You just don't see the light. Don't mock me because I do. Go throw in another Celine album and leave this board.
Celine is God... and if I had one wish it would be to become just like Her...
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08-02-2003, 11:07 AM
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You disgust me.
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You disgust me.
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im curious to know, do you have a bassist?
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im curious to know, do you have a bassist?
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You disgust me.
I'm so sorry... in fact I've finally figured out what it is you're saying, and its completely correct. Ya know I have noticed that society, tv, music (even Celine), and advertisement have been trying to manipulate me in order to make more money, and its pissing me off little by little... And if you say it is "The Man" thats doing this, I guess thats so...

But you see, the problem is, I dont know which man The Man is, so just to be on the safe side, I've decided to hate ALL men. Thats right, I am now a lesbian. Thank you for showing me the way.
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You disgust me.
I'm so sorry... in fact I've finally figured out what it is you're saying, and its completely correct. Ya know I have noticed that society, tv, music (even Celine), and advertisement have been trying to manipulate me in order to make more money, and its pissing me off little by little... And if you say it is "The Man" thats doing this, I guess thats so...

But you see, the problem is, I dont know which man The Man is, so just to be on the safe side, I've decided to hate ALL men. Thats right, I am now a lesbian. Thank you for showing me the way.
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08-02-2003, 11:18 AM
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Attrezzo's brother is going to on the album but we are looking for a more long-term member.
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Attrezzo's brother is going to on the album but we are looking for a more long-term member.
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so then, ahem...whos the bassist in the pictures?...has this man joined before, im starting to see loopholes in your cause, i am begining to doubt...

the high quality photos do not add up to the low quality recording and production, what is this? doesnt the music come before the image; im starting to get confused... your pilot light is starting to flicker out, i am losing my faith in you uberfather.
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so then, ahem...whos the bassist in the pictures?...has this man joined before, im starting to see loopholes in your cause, i am begining to doubt...

the high quality photos do not add up to the low quality recording and production, what is this? doesnt the music come before the image; im starting to get confused... your pilot light is starting to flicker out, i am losing my faith in you uberfather.
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08-02-2003, 12:24 PM
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We have been through numerous bassists. The pictures and evertything aren't very up to date. I wouldn't entirely trust them as representation of the current band. But don't worry all will be updated by the end of the summer.
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We have been through numerous bassists. The pictures and evertything aren't very up to date. I wouldn't entirely trust them as representation of the current band. But don't worry all will be updated by the end of the summer.
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08-02-2003, 12:26 PM
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I took a closer look at most of the website and I will have to discuss things with the webmaster as he seems to be confused. Attrezzo's pics are all mixed up. What a fucking punk. Punishment will be dealt. Have no worries.
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I took a closer look at most of the website and I will have to discuss things with the webmaster as he seems to be confused. Attrezzo's pics are all mixed up. What a fucking punk. Punishment will be dealt. Have no worries.
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Well, this thread isnt fun anymore. Buh-bye. And your band sucks by the way.
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Well, this thread isnt fun anymore. Buh-bye. And your band sucks by the way.
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08-02-2003, 06:46 PM
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This isn't supposed to be about fun. It is supposed to be about realizing that you are chained down by higher powers. You must break those chains and embrace our message. It is the fascination with fun and immediate gratification that allows you to be so easily led. So go and rejoin the ignorant masses if that is all you care for. As for the rest of you, search for the Uberground.
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This isn't supposed to be about fun. It is supposed to be about realizing that you are chained down by higher powers. You must break those chains and embrace our message. It is the fascination with fun and immediate gratification that allows you to be so easily led. So go and rejoin the ignorant masses if that is all you care for. As for the rest of you, search for the Uberground.
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So what?
We live in a money hungry corporate world. Whats new?

I realised this before I heard your music, because this may surprise you, but you aren't the first to come out with the "our world is fucked" theory.

I'll be listening out for you on my local radio station.*
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So what?
We live in a money hungry corporate world. Whats new?

I realised this before I heard your music, because this may surprise you, but you aren't the first to come out with the "our world is fucked" theory.

I'll be listening out for you on my local radio station.*
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heres my 2 word review of uberground......


















































Shit sandwich.
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heres my 2 word review of uberground......


















































Shit sandwich.
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Shit sandwich.
Ill second that.

This whole bullshit "the man" thing is retarded...explain yourself and stop making reference to some abstract concept that you dont fully comprehend (if it even exists).
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Shit sandwich.
Ill second that.

This whole bullshit "the man" thing is retarded...explain yourself and stop making reference to some abstract concept that you dont fully comprehend (if it even exists).
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I would refer all of you naysayers to the opening quote from Chekov.

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

I believe all of you who are against our music and use such slanderous terms as "shit sandwich" are only buying into the man's elaborate scheme. As I have said many times before, until you are actually prepared to realize your situation and do something about it, wallow in your pathetic existence and let movie like Gladiator numb your already inhibited mind.
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I would refer all of you naysayers to the opening quote from Chekov.

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

I believe all of you who are against our music and use such slanderous terms as "shit sandwich" are only buying into the man's elaborate scheme. As I have said many times before, until you are actually prepared to realize your situation and do something about it, wallow in your pathetic existence and let movie like Gladiator numb your already inhibited mind.
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I would refer all of you naysayers to the opening quote from Chekov.

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

I believe all of you who are against our music and use such slanderous terms as "shit sandwich" are only buying into the man's elaborate scheme. As I have said many times before, until you are actually prepared to realize your situation and do something about it, wallow in your pathetic existence and let movie like Gladiator numb your already inhibited mind.
bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah!!! what the fuck?!

this has to be a joke... please tell me its a joke.
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I would refer all of you naysayers to the opening quote from Chekov.

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

I believe all of you who are against our music and use such slanderous terms as "shit sandwich" are only buying into the man's elaborate scheme. As I have said many times before, until you are actually prepared to realize your situation and do something about it, wallow in your pathetic existence and let movie like Gladiator numb your already inhibited mind.
bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah!!! what the fuck?!

this has to be a joke... please tell me its a joke.
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bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah!!! what the fuck?!

this has to be a joke... please tell me its a joke.
Word to that. Eulogizer my man, you cannot be serious about this.
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:50 AM   #34
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bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah!!! what the fuck?!

this has to be a joke... please tell me its a joke.
Word to that. Eulogizer my man, you cannot be serious about this.
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08-03-2003, 10:00 AM
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Why wouldn't I be serious?
Old 08-03-2003, 10:00 AM   #35
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I would refer all of you naysayers to the opening quote from Chekov.

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

I believe all of you who are against our music and use such slanderous terms as "shit sandwich" are only buying into the man's elaborate scheme. As I have said many times before, until you are actually prepared to realize your situation and do something about it, wallow in your pathetic existence and let movie like Gladiator numb your already inhibited mind.
Dude, you're a complete idiot...PERIOD.

Please great enlightened one, unveil this man's great scheme.
So far you have explained nothing and you just sound like a giant "fuck society" cliche.
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I would refer all of you naysayers to the opening quote from Chekov.

"Some people call it noise. Some call it trash. Some call it the latest sign of our country being devoid of culture. Fuck those people. They buy into exactly what the man wants them to. These are the same people who will in the same breath tell you Gladiator is the best movie ever and that Celine Dion is god of all music. Don't buy into their shit. We're not shit. We're not fucking Blink 182 or some shit. We are the new sound. Make way for us."

I believe all of you who are against our music and use such slanderous terms as "shit sandwich" are only buying into the man's elaborate scheme. As I have said many times before, until you are actually prepared to realize your situation and do something about it, wallow in your pathetic existence and let movie like Gladiator numb your already inhibited mind.
Dude, you're a complete idiot...PERIOD.

Please great enlightened one, unveil this man's great scheme.
So far you have explained nothing and you just sound like a giant "fuck society" cliche.
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08-03-2003, 10:16 AM
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Why wouldn't I be serious?
A band that has been unanimously labeled as complete shit by the TDN council, has what seems to be concert photos showing thousands of fans, if not more, in the audience. I smell a scam, dont you?
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Why wouldn't I be serious?
A band that has been unanimously labeled as complete shit by the TDN council, has what seems to be concert photos showing thousands of fans, if not more, in the audience. I smell a scam, dont you?
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08-03-2003, 10:21 AM
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A smelly fish scam...

On a further note...You use the same refrences in society...if you're so enlightened wouldnt you know more things to point out as a part of 'the mans' scheme? seriously...all i've seen you point out is celine deon, blink 182 and gladiator...wheres the government political conspiracies? or the war crimes? or the NEWS for that matter? your a big crock of shit, steaming shit that came out of 'the mans' asshole. your band is a joke...you can afford to play at fairly big venues with lighting, good photography and what i presume to be video projections but have shitty acoustic demos with bad editing and effects, and using the accoustic guitar as drums... i've unvieled the mans secret scheme; you are the man, and his scheme is trying to fool us with Uberground.

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A smelly fish scam...

On a further note...You use the same refrences in society...if you're so enlightened wouldnt you know more things to point out as a part of 'the mans' scheme? seriously...all i've seen you point out is celine deon, blink 182 and gladiator...wheres the government political conspiracies? or the war crimes? or the NEWS for that matter? your a big crock of shit, steaming shit that came out of 'the mans' asshole. your band is a joke...you can afford to play at fairly big venues with lighting, good photography and what i presume to be video projections but have shitty acoustic demos with bad editing and effects, and using the accoustic guitar as drums... i've unvieled the mans secret scheme; you are the man, and his scheme is trying to fool us with Uberground.

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08-03-2003, 10:34 AM
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Scam? What about the thousands at shit like Blink 182? I will tell you what the real scam is. It is perpetrated by corporations that feed you everything you know. That is why it is so hard for you to accept our message and realized that others (as you can see they are many) have accepted our message.
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Scam? What about the thousands at shit like Blink 182? I will tell you what the real scam is. It is perpetrated by corporations that feed you everything you know. That is why it is so hard for you to accept our message and realized that others (as you can see they are many) have accepted our message.
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You know what?

It is 100% I M P O S S I B L E not to be affected by your surroundings...

Your ideas are just a product of someone elses ideas, and you not really enlightened if you stick so strongly to one abstract concept...and you still havent explained yourself.
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You know what?

It is 100% I M P O S S I B L E not to be affected by your surroundings...

Your ideas are just a product of someone elses ideas, and you not really enlightened if you stick so strongly to one abstract concept...and you still havent explained yourself.
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