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Old 06-29-2012, 11:06 PM   #1
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lateralus- album meaning

the LOVERS (``man, another aspect of the adam kadmon, the perfect man,the devine androgyne. love as tg efforts of adam kadmon to find himself.)the equilibrium of contraries, the union of the duad, as the means of attaining light.
card 6 zain meaning sword zodiac sighn reresents the mercurial sign of gemini

in the lovers card picture desigh it shows in initiate hesitating in parting of ways of the vice on his left and te virtue on his right
the meaning of the card is the royal mariage with the deeper meaning of the sigh gemini meaning polarity. the great work ,the will where 0=2
the meaing of the card is balance symbolysed by the 6 pointed star hexagram it is a harmony of the inner with outer life.

the album is devided into two with track 1-6 at the one side and the tracks 8 -13 on the other devided by track 7
this probably explains why parabol is a seperate track used as an intro to parabola
if you see the album as devided in the left hand path of vice and the right hand path of virtue
it seems as the path of the vice is the tracks 1-6 and the path of the virtue 8-13
if you look at the lyrics this becomes evident
you have track one starting with letting go of your personal grudge
track 2
track 3 patient that has to do with perservearence through the path you have chosen
track 4 tarck of maynard`s cat slowed down probaly a sarcastic way of indicating the tedious path taken in the patient
track 5 schism wich is the track just before the half of the first devision of the album
right before parobol
this song also provides evidence that there is validity in tthe theory of the lovers card
the lyrics and the cards symbolism seem to correspond
track6 is parabol an intro to parabola it is also calm and peacefull leading into parabola which is the exavt oposite in feeling fast paced and anergetic
another symbol of oposites also the meaning of parobol explains the nature of the universe the union of opositescreates the ever moving cosmos.
track 7 is the middel link of the two devisions of virtue and vice
and it is as if this is like the climax of the album where the two opposites meet
(the lyrics this body holdong me part has the feeling as if it is your soul on the threshold before it is released out of your body with an iluminating expertience)
track8 has something to do with the process of being suckked down to the othe dimension
tick aare parasites and i maybe has something to do with qlipothic entitiesn or the qlipoth
the ending of parabola also has that tragic sudden ending witch ends calmly
track9 is lateralus the transmutaion of the soul as part of the ilumination process
track 10 ,track 11 and track 12 are supposed to be one track each one leads into the next but are seperate
and track 13 is the reachoing of kether the crown chakra illumination
so looking at the symbolism of the lovers card and the devision of the album into 2 and the climax in the middell at track seven parabol it seem asif it is indicating the meaning of the unibverse in the tarot that it is eternal .
it also seems to suggest the path of the qabalistic tree and it reaches daath at dispositian triad and reaches kether at faaip de oiaad,
because the tracks 10,11 and 12 are one linked together it creates 11 steps to kether on the tree of life.
the word tarot means rotation,
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this is a meaning of the tarot

no study of occult can be possible without aquiantance with symbolism, for the words occultism and symbolism are correctly used they mean almost one and the same thing.symbolisms cannot be learnes as one learns to build bridges to speak a foreighn language(schism) and for the interpretation of symbols a special cast of mind is necesarry.in addition to knowledge special fcaulties the power of creative thought and the developed imagination is required. one who undestands the symbolism in the arts knows in a general way what is ment by occult arts. but even then special training is needed in order to comprehend the ``language of the initiates`` and to express in this language the intuitions as they are.
the tarot cards in the opinion of the investigators represents the egyptian hieroglyphic book of sevnty eight tablets , which came to us miraculously .
althoigh the tarot is a pack of cards it really is somethong different, it can be read in a variety of ways . as on instance a metaphysical interpretation of general mening or general content of the book of tarot, that is to say its metaphysical title that will explain that this work was not invented by gypsies of the 14th century.

the tarot falls in 3 devisions :1st part 22 numbered cards the 2nd part one card 0 the 3rd part has 56 cards the 4 suits of the the 14 cards.
more over the 2nd part seems to be a a link between the 1st and the 3rd parts since all 56 cards of the 3rd part together equal to the the card 0. now if you imagine 22 cards disposed in the shape of a triangle with 7 cards on each side , with a point on the center represebted by the 0 card and a square around the triangle , the square consistinfg of 56 cards 14 on each side you shall have a representation of the relation between god , man and the universe, or the world of ideas , conscioussness of the man and the physical world(triad)
the triangle is god( th trinity) or the world of ideas or noumenal world the point is a mans soul. the square is the visible , phusical or phenonenal world.
potentially the square is equal to the point, which means that the visible world is contained in mans conscioussnss and is created in mans soul. and the soul itself is a point having no dimension in the world of the spirit, symbolised by the triangle.
it is eveident that such an idea could not have taken shape in the minds of ordinary people and clearly evidence that the tarot is more tan a pack of playing cards or fortune telling cards.
h.p blavatsky mentions the tarot in her works and we have some reason to believe that she studied the tarot. it is known that she loved to ``play patience``.(patience?)
we dont know what she read in the cards as she played the game , but the author told madam blavatsky searched perwsistently for a MSS on the tarot.
in order to understand the tarot it is necessry to understand the basic ideas of the kaballa and of alchemy. it represents as many commentators of the tarot think, a summary of the hermetic sciences and different sciences. all these sciences attributed to hermes trismigistus, reall represent one system of vey braod and deep psychological investigation of the nature of man in his relation to the world noumena (god the world of spirit and to the world of phenomena the(visible physical wold).
the letters of the hebrew alphabet and the various allegories of the kaballa the names of the metals acids and salts in alchemy of the planets and constellations in astrology of goo and evel spirits and magick. all of these were only means to veil truth from the unitiated.
but when the true alchemist spoke of gold he spoke of the souls in the soul of man. and he called gold that which is called in the new testament kingdom of the heaven and in buddism nirvana .
and when the true astrologer spoke of the planets and constelations he spoke of it inconstellations in the soul of man eg. the qualities of the human soul and its relations to god and the world . andwhen the true kabalists spoke of the name of god h spoke of the name that he witnessed in the nature ab=nd soul of man not in books.
the kabala astrolgy and alchemy texts are paralel symbolical systems of the psycholgy of metaphysics.
we are surrounde by a wall of of built conceptions of the world around us and are unable to see passed thos wall.
tha kaballa pressents a n effort to look passwed this obstacle.it investigates the world asif it is the world in itself. the world in itself in the kabalists view its built out of the 4 elements of the name of God IHVH .
the viewpoint of the kabalists consists of the study of the name of god in its manifestation
these 4 priciples describe the deepest symbolical meaning yod the active principle, the beginning motion or cuase the secind letter vau the passive element inertia quietude not i the third the balnce of oposites and the 4th the result of latent energy.
kabalists belive that every object and phenomenon consists of thse 4 principles, that everything consists of the name of god
therefore when man sees these 4 priciples iin all things of different categories he begins to seee he anology between these phenomena. he then realizes that the whlole univers is built according tof the same law. therefore the study of the name of god ihvh, it presents a powerful way for widening consciousness.
the idea is cler that the name of god is in everything from a speck of dust to the whole universe. the name of god , the word, the logos is the origin of the world.
logos also means reason.
the tarot is quite analogous to the abala alchemy and magick and includes them. corresponding to the four first principles or the four letters of the name of god or 4 elements aor 4 classes of spirit the tarot ahs 4 suits sceptrre cups sword and pentacles, every suit , every side of the square ,equal to th epoint represents th elements, controls on classof spirits. scepters -fire, cups- watre , swords are air and pentacles earth. in every suit the king is fire the 1st principle the queen the 2nd water the knight the 3rd air and the page earth. then again the ace is fire 2 water 3 air the 4 aerth etc.
in regards to the suits the black suits s express activity and energy, will initiative and subjective side of consciousness, and the red suits passive energy inertia and objective consciousness.
the 1st 2 suits represent good and 2nd 2 eveikl, thus every card of th e56 cards represent acivitty or passivity of good or evil arising from mans will or from without.
the 56 cards represent as it were the complete picture of possibilties in mans conscoiousness.
thus including the kaballa ,astrology, alchemy and magick the tarot makes it possible to seek gold ,evoke spirits and draw horoscopes without complicated parephernalia and ceremonies but only by using a pack of cards,.
but the main interest is in the 22 numbered cards.these cards have numrerical meaning and symbolical significance.


according to christian histoire de la magie, the 22 major arcana of the tatot is a representation of hieroglyphic paintings which were found in between colums of a gallery which the neophyte was obliged to cross in egyptian initiations. there were 2 colums to the north and the same to the south. eleven symbolical pictures on each side. these pictutes were explained to the initiate in regular order and they contained the rules and order for the intiate .this opinion is confirmed by correspondence wich nexist berween arcana when they are arranged.
in the gallery the picturees were arranged in pairs one oposite each other so that the first was oposite the last .

1mgician 12hangman
2high priestes 13death
3empress 14temperance
4emperor 15devil
5chariot 16tower
6lover 17star
7hierophant 18moon
8strenthg 19sun
9hermt 20judgement
10wheel 21world
11 justic 0fool

when arranged like this the symbols suggeat a very interesting and deep suggestoin .
in this way the mind finds the 1 in the 2 and is led from dualism in to monism(2=0)
which is what we might call the unification of the duad.
one card explains the other and each pair shows that they can only be explaineded in mutually anfd is meaningless seperately.
thuys we have cards 10 and 13 as a pair that signify together a certain complementary meaning which we cannot conceive by ordinary imperfect mental process.
we think of life and death as two oposites antagonisttic one side to the other, but if we thought further we would realize that each depends on the other for neither could come onto existence esepresately.
the symbol may serve to transfer out intuitins and to suggest new ones only so long as its meaning is not defined.
real symbols are perpetually in the processs of creation, but when they receive a definte significance they become a hieroglyph and finally a mere alphabet.
properly speaking a symbol in ocultism means the same as art.if a artist uses ready-made symbols his work will not be truly occult for it will contain no esotericism no mysticism but only pseudo esotericism, pseuodo mysticism. symbolism in which the symbols have definet meanings is pseudo symbolism
havingmade this clear the author found that the key to the tarot must lie in the imagination and decided to redesighn the cards, giving descriptive pictures of the tarot, and tpo interptret the symbols not by means og analysis but by synthesis.

yess the doctrine contains and expresses any doctrine that can be found in our consciousnes
and in a sense it has definiteness.

it represents nature in all the richness of its infinite possibilities(lateralus), and there is in it as in nature not one but all potential and these meanings are fluent and ever changing so the tarot cannot be specifically this or that for it moves forever and yet is ever the same.(parobol)
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the underworld journey they call it , a deliberate desent intyo the labarinth with inly the thinnest of threads to hold onto. this is the great cycle of transformation.
innitiation is the conscious recognition of that you have reached a turning pint in your developement.
it is thw awareness that you are at this pint that is the key, and the recognition that you are entering a period of potential self transformatio.
all the ritual stuff is unnescsarry though people find ritual a useful way of dramatising the inner/outer process. sure, you can be initiated into a belief system of particular group or cult, but the deepest level of initiation is into yourself.
someone else can act as a guide or help but they cant do it for you.
to pass betwwen the worlds usually involves somekind of catharsis an upheaval, trial or test. the nescesarry disruption seems tp be the yrigger for the plunge .
in some ways initiation is a feint at death, alot of attachments you previously held on to will most likley have to go out the window.
we see the the initiation cycle of the mythic world like this:
;journey of initiation; summons to departure,the riverboat,journey into caos,meeting friends and temporary allies, trials and obstacles, the final encounter with the agent change,return to the surface , and return to the community
this is the journey of the major arcana



this information was tken from ouspnsky-what is the tarot
phil hine- walking between worlds
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Etymology
From Ancient Greek παραβολή (parabolē), from παραβάλλω (paraballō, “I set side by side”), from παρά (para, “beside”) + βάλλω (ballō, “I throw”).

[edit]Noun
parabola (plural parabolas or parabolae or parabolæ)

(geometry) The conic section formed by the intersection of a cone with a plane parallel to a tangent plane to the cone; the locus of points equidistant from a fixed point (the focus) and line (the directrix).

(rhetoric) The explicit drawing of a parallel between two essentially dissimilar things, especially with a moral or didactic purpose. A parable.
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hand and eye

the hand and the eye combined are symbolism of the abyss the ape of thoth the phalus of set and the eye of babylon the ain of the abyss .
the double veil reveal s a mystery of the double horizon (horus)and the ;lord of the double wand in egypt.
in jewish mysticism , paroketh or parakah was the veil that devided the temple.its number was 305, that of yetsirah the world of formstion.(3.04 parobol )
the world of formation and te veil of the abyss devides the world of emanations from the world of creation, so the veil of paroketh devides the world of creation,from teh world of formation the veil of the abyss concesals daath, and the veil of paroketh obscures yesod these two power zones generate the glamour and illusion that constitute the world of appearances.
the veal that cpnceals the dragon of the abyss devides the triad of the supernals the vehicle of ain, from the inferior seven power zones wehich are the vehicles of zain the dual power of twins set horus negative positive hoor paarkraat and ra hoor huit. further the sword is a symbol of ythe dove whose glyph is yoni and as massey observes the y both unite in one name, because of there origin in great magic power oor secret eye one of the symbols of this power combines in one image both the sword and the tail of the dove.
the dove was an image of typhon long ages before b it was asociated with the virgin or veild one of later traditions.
it is the great seal of the oto . the chalice bears the x, the ten or total. one form of tghe total is the tenfold cross of th treeof life, but is the the 11 fold cross identified by crowley as octinomos or the eight fold name bathomet.( as above so below)the ancient head aored by the knights templars.
daath is the 11th power zone and the elevenfold cross denotes the crossing of the abyss though not as crowley saw the event as is described in one star in sight, but rather crossing from one side of the tree to the other-the tree of death this is confirmed by the name bathomet , the root is mete, 1 and 7i.e 8(set), with all wealth of symbolism implied by the formula of hoor paar kraat, the hidden god.
taken from nightside of eden.
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if you look at the symbolism that learly has simialarities it seems as if this is the main type of concept behind this album and aenima, i havent looked into 10k days but it probably as a connection in some way.

it also looks like problem 8 has something to do with aenima and lateralus, im not sure about 10k days but maybe there is.

just have to keep searching.
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parabol
``few indeed understand the at the 11th path is that of the fool dancing on the edge of the abyss, as described in th tarot ascribed to ththis path.
slavador dali whose practiical jokes are notorius has also at times brought discredit upon his artistry although many people are impreesed by ythe wealth that his artistry has amassed.
theb occoltist gurdjeff also falls into this category, his book beelzebub has been described as complicated practical joke, thus again deliberatly obscuring the vital importent part of rteching what he meant.
did not christ also speak in pables so that people could not understand him?``
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trapeze of tragedy
this swing is identical to the cradel wich plays such an important part in the mysteries of krishna gopal cult'
the krishna were riyes of the black child set the babe of the black egg of akasha, the symbol of the cradle swinging which symbolises the crossing of the aeon of maat.
in the picture the trapezist is female representing te human embodiment of the fire snake it is the foot not the hand that is chosen to instigate the means of falling.
aos realized that the supreme formula efcacious surpassing the abyss is that of the foot not the and.
the foot iis underneath the tha hand , the left hand typified by the scarlet woman the dust of whose feet is the red powder celebrated by tamil siddhas. the scarlet dust the nuclear emition of the kundalini in its upward streaking, and it leads to enlightenment in a cosmic sense.

reminds me of lateralus
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dagdagiell 4 schism
14th tunnel-door 55 venus fsharp
its infernal counterpart is the base of the pyramid which when inverted is balanced upon the point of ain in the void of the abyss. f crooning lilting
55 which is mystic number of malkuth te powerzone of earth , 55 5times 11 resumes magical formula of magic set in motion or power of shakti.
thhe reversal of manefestation returning to its non being state.
the end of nuit
the shadow women is a eans of drwa control formit is throiugh her cinture or magical circle that the dreamer enters the the dimensions stat lie beyondon the night side of the inverted pyramid. which is the projection of the yantra of te goddess.
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that has definitly got do with schism
schism is track 5 on the album and shakti is 5
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really? II was 14 when this album came out. My understanding of this is years later and none of you will probably EVER read this but for anyone else that manages to graze debate above, it doesn't matter what the album may make you feel, it's not about "causing moods" it's about providing a catalyst so you know where you're short comings are, you will interpret the songs the way you perceive them. All music is an arbitrary experience, hence only a subjective meaning to any listeners. Having a subjective scenario means that you need to keep an open mind, look for a control. The conrtol for me is MaynardJK himself. Over the years he has been viewed as "hateful" and "pessimistic" I don't tend to agree with this at all. I think he is more of a recovered consciousness and instead of keeping what "enlightenment" (for lack of a better term) to himself, he has come far in learning how to project upon others and make them take a long hard look inside. I believe Trent Reznor is of the same standing. )soul doctors( if you will. What you need to look at is WHY you percieved it that way, why you're outlook is automatically assuming hatred, is this how you feel about a potential individual using you for gain, or are or have you just become that jaded with your overall opinions, views, and collective stereotypes that you have acquired from hear say, observations, and other innuendo you're subconsciously absorbing into your long term memory? I honestly believe these are questions and answers these compilations are to make us realize, explore, and initiate a change to follow a path of inner peace, acceptance, and understanding. Stay open minded, and challenge the status qua. Never take anything for face value and always explore the equal and opposite reactions before you act.
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it double posted on me, this one was an accidental mistake


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The album is about bridging the material and the spiritual (female and male, etc.), their relationship, and realise that this life is not the be all and end all. There is so much beautiful symbolism and experience shared within this album.
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