other thing i did notice , there seems to be something about the 8 thats importnt.
track 8 on opiate is opiate
on undertow-undertow
on aenima intermission
on lateralus if you include mantra on the combined track parabola the 8th is lateralus
on 10kdays rosetta stoned
so what would teh next album be
see i have been looking at this for a lomg time and still think theres something thats missing.
i noticed that these numbers 8,7,6,5 and 15,13,11,9 with the 4 elemnt , and the numeric values of maat on aenima the vision and the voice and babalon on lateralus, choronzon on 10kdays and the geometry of the numbers, octagram,heptagram,hexagram and pentagram plus the 4 worlds couldnt be the only thing to it all
so i thought about it and saw what i was missing had a simple expalnation,
now i want to tell you this but im also womndering why you havent noticed it before.
see its simple actually, all you have to do is count,
well you need to use your imagination as well and includ the next album wth its ,
lets say 9 tracks for now
46 songs is what I am trying to look here, but there's 48 in these 4 releases and 2 songs are duplicants the others are (live) Third Eye and Pushit, which ones to drop out?
see this is almost right but the albums are aenima, lateralus,10kdays and new album
so 48 is correct but what does it mean, in what context, well 418 the numeric value of the grudge if you devide the duration into 2
see the thing ive been missing in the start was i nether saw anything enocgian about the numbers and teh albums which is strange becuas tool is all about enochian shit.
so what is this all about the Æthers 30 aethyrs +19 calls
=49 but the 19th call is supposed to be excluded and done silently.
here you go guys i beat lateralus that last boss was hard but i won in the end here you go
this also applys to 10,000 days the letters line up perfectly diagonally if you dont believe me count them your self (include the spaces when you count) or copy this into wordpad and choose a mono spaced font like lucida console or fixedsys i would have uploaded this as a image so you could see exactly how it lines up but i clicked the file option thing and it didnt work
disposi T ion
reflecti O n
faaip de O iad
ticks and L eeches
latera L us
____tri A d
man T ra
th E patient
the g R udge
___par A bol
parabo L a
eon bl U e apocalypse
schi S m 3071950]
i suppose they released salival as a clue because , until now i havent heard anyone talk about any of the things i mentioned so far.
only the wings viginti tres combination track thing and the tree of life configuration on it.
so the total of tracks on salival is 8 and the cover art is a representation of pushit on aenima(feeling the hands on my back again)
most of the content is old stuff, also a led zepplin cover is featured not any one but no quarter, which reminds me of all along the watch tower.
which is about the tarot( is there some kind of way out of here said the joker to the thief)
and led zepplin were also into the hermetic esoterics.
so the 8 tracks led zeplin and pushit symbolism is somekind of clue
the pushit mystery is probably the first thing it is supposed to give rise to.
there is somethimng on pushit something big and cool.
what could it be......................?
earth air water fire
assiah,yetsirah,briah,atziluth
8,7,6,5
15,13,11,9
48
418(vision and teh voice)
8,7,6,5(geometry)
octa-,hepta-,hexa- and pentagram
maat(nuit),aivas,choronzon,?
the tree of life
combotracks
aenima-?
lateralus -mantra parabola and faaip de oiad,
10k days-wings1+2 viginti tres,
new album-?
it appears for one sloppy reason.. "Flush it down" so what my little head keep telling me is that: Live setlists suggest the trackorder, so much you need to do is that you pull all songs under the Ænema song.. so that the list is reversed. The end of "Intension" sounds a lot like "Eon Blue Apocalypse" and makes me wanna play "The Patient" as the next track.
intension and patient definitly seems connected in a strange way
do you mean Crowley's Taro meaning when you speak about esoteric meaning of cards?
yes, all the stuff is crowley related with twist of some other stuff also, like kenneth grant, but i dont understand the qlipoths that well , and commet on that part
but yes crowley, vision and the voice = book of thoth
it appears for one sloppy reason.. "Flush it down" so what my little head keep telling me is that: Live setlists suggest the trackorder, so much you need to do is that you pull all songs under the Ænema song.. so that the list is reversed. The end of "Intension" sounds a lot like "Eon Blue Apocalypse" and makes me wanna play "The Patient" as the next track.
interesting
i dont wanna spoil anything , but im gonna mention it anyway.
the trick in connecting the 4 albums lies in aenima
you see you have the amount of tracks of each album
15
13
11
9
at first glance it all seems fine and working well,
but then i thought about it and looked at the 11 tracks on 10kdays
and how theuy fit onto the tree of life, this means that only 1 album has the right amoint of tracks corresponding to the sephiroth
which doesnt seem right , so i thiought how could one correct this?
the answer was simple the last album need 2 tracks to fit on the tree, and aenima has 4 too many, but if you take the last 2 tracks and add them to the last album
you end up with pair of albums with 13 tracs and a pair with 11
so if you do this you discover that you have .......... as your last track on aenima
Yeah I've read some Book Of Thoth, it took me somewhere but has since lost it's meaning. Those 2 songs into 10,000 Days, sounds interesting, maybe you're onto something. My wonderings are around double speed versions, now especially Lustmord remixes, so those 2 songs maybe? I thought maybe "Divorced" should be dragged into this, it is in some wierd way, a work of TOOL.
not onto the last album of the released ones, im tlaking about the unreleased new album
Do you mean to even tracks into 11? 15, 13, 11, 9.. hmm I see how to get 3 albums with 11 tracks in them, and if you don't include 4 (demos) Ænima tracks and see the 3 albums as works of Justin, Danny, Adam and Maynard... would that be something?
and the intersetting thing about salival is the album length is 82.55
8+2=10
5+5 =10
the important thing to remember about the tree of life is that it contains 10 sephiroth not 9 and not 11 but 10
11 is a higher octave of 1
the hands on the cover connected to the spine(10 fingers)
the album has 8 tracks
if you ascend the TOL from malkuth daath would be encounterd on the 8th step
other thing
faaip de oiad is mentioned in wiki as track 13 that needs to be placed in the center of the album usin the 16th step, the original central track is parabola, the track on which you use faaip de oiad, so the the 16th step was supposed to be a clue in dicovering how the songs parabola and faaip de oiad are placed togethre
another interesting fact is that aenima lateralus 10 000 days each have a track with the world shin the 11th letter related to the soul
and the 21st card of the tarot the aeon(judgment)
In this card it has been necessary to depart completely from the tradition of the cards, in order to carry on that tradition.
The old card was called The Angel: or, The Last Judgment. It represented an Angel or Messenger blowing a trumpet, attached to which was a flag, bearing the symbol of the Aeon of Osiris. Below him the graves were opening, the dead rising up. There were three of them. The central one had his hands raised with right angles at the elbows and shoulders, so as to form the letter Shin, which refers to Fire. The card therefore represented the destruction of the world by Fire. This was accomplished in the year of the vulgar era 1904, when the fiery god Horus took the place of the airy god Osiris in the East as Hierophant (see Atu V). At the beginning, then, of this new Aeon, it is fit to exhibit the message of that angel who brought the news of the new Aeon to earth. The new card is thus of necessity an adaptation of the Stélé of Revealing.
Around the top of the card is the body of Nuith, the star-goddess, who is the category of unlimited possibility; her mate is Hadit, the ubiquitous point-of-view, the only philosophically tenable conception of Reality. He is represented by a globe of fire, representing eternal energy; winged, to show his power of Going. As a result of the marriage of these two, the child Horus is born. He is, however, known under his special name, Heru-ra-ha. A double god; his extroverted form is Ra-hoor-khuit; and his passive or introverted form Hoor-pa kraat. (See above, the Formula of Tetragrammaton). He is also solar in character, and is therefore shown coming forth in golden light.
The Passive Aspect of Heru-ra-ha is Hoor-pa-kraat (Egyptian: Har-par-khered), more commonly referred to by the Greek transliteration Harpocrates, meaning "Horus the Child"; Horus, the son of Isis and Osiris, sometimes distinguished from their brother Horus the Elder,[16] who was the old patron deity of Upper Egypt. Hoor is represented as a young boy with a child's sidelock of hair, sucking his finger. The Greeks,[17] Ovid and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn attributed silence to him, presumably because the sucking of the finger is suggestive of the common "shhh" gesture.
Ra-hoor-khuit, the speaker in the third chapter of The Book of the Law, introduces himself as "the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat."[18]
Also known as "The Babe in the Lotus", Hoor-paar-kraat is sometimes thought of as the baby Ra-Hoor-Khuit[19] and sometimes as the younger brother of Horus.[20] The former view in the works of Aleister Crowley portrays Ra-Hoor-Khuit—in place of the Golden Dawn's Osiris/Jesus -- as a model for the initiate, and thus describes attainment as a natural growth process, de-emphasizing the metaphor of death and resurrection. In the second view, the Golden Dawn placed Hoor-paar-kraat at the center of their Hall of Ma'at while the officers of the temple (one of whom represented Horus) revolved around him.
[edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heru-ra-ha
The Cry of the First Aethyr in Crowley's Liber 418 presents Horus, the Crowned and Conquering Child, as the union of many opposites.
It is a little child covered with lilies and roses. He is supported by countless myriads of Archangels. The Archangels are all the same colourless brilliance, and every one of them is blind. Below the Archangels again are many, many other legions, and so on far below, so far that the eye cannot pierce. And on his forehead, and on his heart, and in his hand, is the secret sigil of the Beast. (fn: Sun and moon conjoined) And of all this the glory is so great that all the spiritual senses fail, and their reflections in the body fail.(...)This child danceth not, but it is because he is the soul of the two dances, --- the right hand and the left hand, and in him they are one dance, the dance without motion.
the videos of tool are basically the whole process summed up
they say a picture contians a 1000 words, what about a video?
i havent seen all of their videos, but vicarious also describes alot of whats going on
the thing is if your an average joe, you wont have the slightest idea of the amount of information contained in the video.
the 1st time i saw it i definitly did not.
but finding the explanation isnt that hard either, neither impossible
so have ever read the book of thoth?
if you did you would realize the meaning of that part in parabola where the being picks up the leaf and the leaf turns into fire.
the last part definitly sums up the whole thing in short, ive given alot of clues in finding it in the thread.
and still need to give some more in the future.
but for now check out the book of thoth.