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pray like a martyr from dusk to dawn?
Yea id say thats more accurate than father.
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pray like a martyr from dusk to dawn?
Yea id say thats more accurate than father.
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04-19-2006, 05:42 PM
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Everytime I listen I hear "jam bye eye" in place of "dim my eye" Is that how you pronounce Jambi???? I need some headphones!!

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Yeah how the fuck do you pronounce it? Is it JAM-BYE or JAM-BEE? I thought he was saying Jambi in the lyrics too not "Dim my eyes..."
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Everytime I listen I hear "jam bye eye" in place of "dim my eye" Is that how you pronounce Jambi???? I need some headphones!!

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Yeah how the fuck do you pronounce it? Is it JAM-BYE or JAM-BEE? I thought he was saying Jambi in the lyrics too not "Dim my eyes..."
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I thought the lyrics were shine on morning son. Like micheal son of the morning, a take on "O shining one, son of the morning!" from the bible, is it definately benevolent?

This song seems Faust like with Jambi the Genie as Satan granting wishes. Feel free to pick this apart.

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I thought the lyrics were shine on morning son. Like micheal son of the morning, a take on "O shining one, son of the morning!" from the bible, is it definately benevolent?

This song seems Faust like with Jambi the Genie as Satan granting wishes. Feel free to pick this apart.

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When I first heard the song I thought they were saying Jam Bye Eye too, but then it didn't really make sense with the next lyrics "jam bye eye if they should compromise" ? then i figured it must have to do with eyes.
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When I first heard the song I thought they were saying Jam Bye Eye too, but then it didn't really make sense with the next lyrics "jam bye eye if they should compromise" ? then i figured it must have to do with eyes.
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These lyrics are really fucking sad. You can feel what he's going through with the loss of his mother. Damn I don't know what else to say, it's just really sad. I'm fucking speechless
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These lyrics are really fucking sad. You can feel what he's going through with the loss of his mother. Damn I don't know what else to say, it's just really sad. I'm fucking speechless
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Could it be shine on benevolent son instead of song or sun? Since this song may be directed to his son?
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Could it be shine on benevolent son instead of song or sun? Since this song may be directed to his son?
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"Brave like a martyr dusk to dawn"
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"Brave like a martyr dusk to dawn"
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Could it be shine on benevolent son instead of song or sun? Since this song may be directed to his son?
that's what i think.

i definitely connected it with his son when i first listened to it with the lyrics.
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Could it be shine on benevolent son instead of song or sun? Since this song may be directed to his son?
that's what i think.

i definitely connected it with his son when i first listened to it with the lyrics.
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04-20-2006, 03:18 PM
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It's "damn my eyes"
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It's "damn my eyes"
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04-20-2006, 11:28 PM
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Consider this correction. At the end I believe he is saying this...

Breathe in union (x5)
[7:00]
So as one
Survive another day and season
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Consider this correction. At the end I believe he is saying this...

Breathe in union (x5)
[7:00]
So as one
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Everytime I listen I hear "jam bye eye" in place of "dim my eye" Is that how you pronounce Jambi???? I need some headphones!!

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I hear that, too.
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Everytime I listen I hear "jam bye eye" in place of "dim my eye" Is that how you pronounce Jambi???? I need some headphones!!

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I hear that, too.
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Dim my eyes if they should compromise
Or fall from what sin need you find within.
I might as well be gone.
Dim my eyes, if they should compromise our fulcrum
Wants and needs divide me
Then I might as well be gone.


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Silence leech, and say your poison
Silence leech, and stay out of my way
Silent legions, say your poison
Silent legions, stay out of my way

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Dim my eyes if they should compromise
Or fall from what sin need you find within.
I might as well be gone.
Dim my eyes, if they should compromise our fulcrum
Wants and needs divide me
Then I might as well be gone.


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Silence leech, and say your poison
Silence leech, and stay out of my way
Silent legions, say your poison
Silent legions, stay out of my way

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its defently "pray like a martyr from dusk to dawn"
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its defently "pray like a martyr from dusk to dawn"
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I really think it is this:

Or fall from what sin need you find me, then,
I might as well be gone.


I just can't hear what you had put in there, but I could certainly be wrong, I just didn't see how that part in your lyrics made a sentence that made sense.
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I really think it is this:

Or fall from what sin need you find me, then,
I might as well be gone.


I just can't hear what you had put in there, but I could certainly be wrong, I just didn't see how that part in your lyrics made a sentence that made sense.
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Or fall from what sin need you find me, then,
I might as well be gone.
Dim my eyes if they should compromise our fulcum
What you need, you find within
I might as well be gone

That's what I here. Not sure about the fulcrum bit though.
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Or fall from what sin need you find me, then,
I might as well be gone.
Dim my eyes if they should compromise our fulcum
What you need, you find within
I might as well be gone

That's what I here. Not sure about the fulcrum bit though.
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"The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I'd found.
Dabbling all the way down
Up to my neck so to drown.

Tempted the devil with my song,
And got what I wanted all along."

Maynard sold his soul to the debil?
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"The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I'd found.
Dabbling all the way down
Up to my neck so to drown.

Tempted the devil with my song,
And got what I wanted all along."

Maynard sold his soul to the debil?
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I really think it is this:

Or fall from what sin need you find me, then,
I might as well be gone.


I just can't hear what you had put in there, but I could certainly be wrong, I just didn't see how that part in your lyrics made a sentence that made sense.
Are you referring to the ones I posted?

You don't think they make sense?

I don't understand how "Or fall from what sin need you find me" makes sense.
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I really think it is this:

Or fall from what sin need you find me, then,
I might as well be gone.


I just can't hear what you had put in there, but I could certainly be wrong, I just didn't see how that part in your lyrics made a sentence that made sense.
Are you referring to the ones I posted?

You don't think they make sense?

I don't understand how "Or fall from what sin need you find me" makes sense.
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04-21-2006, 03:53 PM
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the end...


breath in union so

as one survive

another day

in season

silently just say your poison

silently just stay out of my way

still sometimes kinda hear say/take on the poison line but im 99.9% on the rest
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the end...


breath in union so

as one survive

another day

in season

silently just say your poison

silently just stay out of my way

still sometimes kinda hear say/take on the poison line but im 99.9% on the rest
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Shine on benevolent sun?
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04-21-2006, 05:01 PM
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I'm divided here:
he says " shattered the devil with my song "
or " sheltered the devil with my song "
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I'm divided here:
he says " shattered the devil with my song "
or " sheltered the devil with my song "
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First off let me state by saying that I personally think this song is told from a few different viewpoints. One being Maynard and how he's fallen poison to the same evils that he preaches against, because like it or not, in his position, it's hard to be perfect.

I think the Shine on part has something to do with his mother telling him to shine Benevolent SON. Also at the end, I really think it's Silence leech and save your poison, silence leeches stay out of my way. This I think is a reference to the medical help his mother was tired of getting, she was ready to die, so yea. Just an idea. Here's what I think on the lyrics.

Jambi
Here from the kings mountain view, here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do, on treasures and flesh never few
But I, I would wish it all away
If I thought I'd lose you just one day
The devil and his had me downs, in love with the dark side I've found
Dabbling all the way down, up to my neck soon to drown
But you changed all that for me, lifted me up turned me round
So I, I, I, I, I
I would, I would, I would
Wish this all away
Prayed like a martyr dusk to dawn
Begged like a hooker all night long
Tempted the devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along

But I, I would, if I could, I would
Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold, sway
Or just a fine line, kneeling away my center

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow they'd take you away
You're my piece of mind, my all
I said I'm just trying to hold on one more day

Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should comprimise
or fall from what you need to find me then
I might as well be gone

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent sun
Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one
Shine on forever, Shine on benevolent sun
Shine on upon the severed
Shine until the two become one
Divided I'm withering away
Divided I'm withering away
Shin on upon the many, light our way
Benevolent sun

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
another the day and season
Silence leech, and save your poison
Silence leech and stay out of my way
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First off let me state by saying that I personally think this song is told from a few different viewpoints. One being Maynard and how he's fallen poison to the same evils that he preaches against, because like it or not, in his position, it's hard to be perfect.

I think the Shine on part has something to do with his mother telling him to shine Benevolent SON. Also at the end, I really think it's Silence leech and save your poison, silence leeches stay out of my way. This I think is a reference to the medical help his mother was tired of getting, she was ready to die, so yea. Just an idea. Here's what I think on the lyrics.

Jambi
Here from the kings mountain view, here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do, on treasures and flesh never few
But I, I would wish it all away
If I thought I'd lose you just one day
The devil and his had me downs, in love with the dark side I've found
Dabbling all the way down, up to my neck soon to drown
But you changed all that for me, lifted me up turned me round
So I, I, I, I, I
I would, I would, I would
Wish this all away
Prayed like a martyr dusk to dawn
Begged like a hooker all night long
Tempted the devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along

But I, I would, if I could, I would
Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold, sway
Or just a fine line, kneeling away my center

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow they'd take you away
You're my piece of mind, my all
I said I'm just trying to hold on one more day

Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should comprimise
or fall from what you need to find me then
I might as well be gone

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent sun
Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one
Shine on forever, Shine on benevolent sun
Shine on upon the severed
Shine until the two become one
Divided I'm withering away
Divided I'm withering away
Shin on upon the many, light our way
Benevolent sun

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
another the day and season
Silence leech, and save your poison
Silence leech and stay out of my way
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*Damn my eyes if they should
*Compromise our fulcrum
*Wants and needs divide me
*Then I might as well be gone.

*Shout to the devil with my song

*Silence legions, say your poison
*Silence legions, stay out of my way
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*Damn my eyes if they should
*Compromise our fulcrum
*Wants and needs divide me
*Then I might as well be gone.

*Shout to the devil with my song

*Silence legions, say your poison
*Silence legions, stay out of my way
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damn my ears. this song is amazing even more so now that i have a better idea of the lyrical value. good work guys.
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damn my ears. this song is amazing even more so now that i have a better idea of the lyrical value. good work guys.
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Quantum:
I'm with you. Or at least he had a revelation of some sort. Maybe Danny's DMT twisted him all the way back around :)
I doubt if maynard did find jesus that he would ever seriously admit it! Unless telling us on april fools day would be considered doing "the lords work"

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Quantum:
I'm with you. Or at least he had a revelation of some sort. Maybe Danny's DMT twisted him all the way back around :)
I doubt if maynard did find jesus that he would ever seriously admit it! Unless telling us on april fools day would be considered doing "the lords work"

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i didn't read this whole thread. am i the only one who hears 'Jambi-i' instead of 'damn my eyes' or whateverthefuck? great song.
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i didn't read this whole thread. am i the only one who hears 'Jambi-i' instead of 'damn my eyes' or whateverthefuck? great song.
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a few correction...
first damn makes so much more sense than dim
also... positive it's "justify my" and not "just a fine line"

Here from the king's mountain view
Here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do
On treasures and flesh, never few

But I...
I would
Wish it
All away
If I
Thought I'd
Lose you
Just one day

The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I'd found
Dabbling all the way down
Up to my neck soon to drown

But you changed that all for me
Lifted me up, turned me 'round
So I
I
I
I...

I would
I would
I would
Wish this all away...

Prayed like a father dusk to dawn
Begged like a hooker all night long
Tempted the devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along

But I
And I would
If I could
And I would

Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold sway
Or justify my
Kneeling away, my sinner

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow, they'd take you away
You're my peace of mind, my home
I said I'm just trying to hold on
One more day

Damn my eyes
Damn my eyes

Damn my eyes if they should compromise
Or fall from what sin need you find within
I might as well be gone.



Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent Son

Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent Son

Shine on upon the sever
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'm withering away
Divided I wither away

Shine on upon the many, light our way
Benevolent Son

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
Honor the day and season

Silence leech, and save your poison
Silence leech, and stay out of my way
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a few correction...
first damn makes so much more sense than dim
also... positive it's "justify my" and not "just a fine line"

Here from the king's mountain view
Here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do
On treasures and flesh, never few

But I...
I would
Wish it
All away
If I
Thought I'd
Lose you
Just one day

The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I'd found
Dabbling all the way down
Up to my neck soon to drown

But you changed that all for me
Lifted me up, turned me 'round
So I
I
I
I...

I would
I would
I would
Wish this all away...

Prayed like a father dusk to dawn
Begged like a hooker all night long
Tempted the devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along

But I
And I would
If I could
And I would

Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold sway
Or justify my
Kneeling away, my sinner

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow, they'd take you away
You're my peace of mind, my home
I said I'm just trying to hold on
One more day

Damn my eyes
Damn my eyes

Damn my eyes if they should compromise
Or fall from what sin need you find within
I might as well be gone.



Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent Son

Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent Son

Shine on upon the sever
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'm withering away
Divided I wither away

Shine on upon the many, light our way
Benevolent Son

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
Honor the day and season

Silence leech, and save your poison
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Shine down a calmness ever
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'll wither him away
Divided I'll wither him away

Shine down upon the many
Light our way
Benevolent sun

Breathe in union

So as one
Survive another day and season

Silence, Legion
Say your poison

Silence, Legion
Stay out of my way
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Shine down a calmness ever
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'll wither him away
Divided I'll wither him away

Shine down upon the many
Light our way
Benevolent sun

Breathe in union

So as one
Survive another day and season

Silence, Legion
Say your poison

Silence, Legion
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Shine down a calmness ever
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'll wither him away
Divided I'll wither him away

Shine down upon the many
Light our way
Benevolent sun

Breathe in union

So as one
Survive another day and season

Silence, Legion
Say your poison

Silence, Legion
Stay out of my way
I think your onto something, Legion makes sense.
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Shine down a calmness ever
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'll wither him away
Divided I'll wither him away

Shine down upon the many
Light our way
Benevolent sun

Breathe in union

So as one
Survive another day and season

Silence, Legion
Say your poison

Silence, Legion
Stay out of my way
I think your onto something, Legion makes sense.
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shine on upon the sever
shine until the two become one

makes much more sense than 'Shine down a calmness ever'
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shine on upon the sever
shine until the two become one

makes much more sense than 'Shine down a calmness ever'
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pray like a potter from dusk to dawn
beg like a martyr, dusk til dawn
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pray like a potter from dusk to dawn
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i didn't read this whole thread. am i the only one who hears 'Jambi-i' instead of 'damn my eyes' or whateverthefuck? great song.
i actually think it's Jambi Eyes
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i didn't read this whole thread. am i the only one who hears 'Jambi-i' instead of 'damn my eyes' or whateverthefuck? great song.
i actually think it's Jambi Eyes
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Everytime I listen I hear "jam bye eye" in place of "dim my eye" Is that how you pronounce Jambi???? I need some headphones!!

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Everytime I listen I hear "jam bye eye" in place of "dim my eye" Is that how you pronounce Jambi???? I need some headphones!!

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Ummm, after close inspection of all the lyrics in this album.....I think Maynard really did find Jesus.
This. Is. Amazing.
No its satan, not Jesus. Shine on forever benevolent son = micheal son of the morning/ morning star. If you want more evidence he mentions Legion - the three daemons as a parody of the father the son and the holy ghost. On the surface its sounds like hes singing about Jesus, but think a lttle deeper and he isnt. :)

If you want more evidence that he hasnt found Jesus listen to the Aliester Crowley stuff on Intention.

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Ummm, after close inspection of all the lyrics in this album.....I think Maynard really did find Jesus.
This. Is. Amazing.
No its satan, not Jesus. Shine on forever benevolent son = micheal son of the morning/ morning star. If you want more evidence he mentions Legion - the three daemons as a parody of the father the son and the holy ghost. On the surface its sounds like hes singing about Jesus, but think a lttle deeper and he isnt. :)

If you want more evidence that he hasnt found Jesus listen to the Aliester Crowley stuff on Intention.

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its jamb my eyes. a play with words

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its jamb my eyes. a play with words

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No its satan, not Jesus. Shine on forever benevolent son = micheal son of the morning/ morning star. If you want more evidence he mentions Legion - the three daemons as a parody of the father the son and the holy ghost. On the surface its sounds like hes singing about Jesus, but think a lttle deeper and he isnt. :)

If you want more evidence that he hasnt found Jesus listen to the Aliester Crowley stuff on Intention.
so how does him telling the legion to shut up and get out of his way imply that he is worshipping satan? i don't think he's found jesus either, mind you, but just something higher. this is just an extension from 'reflections' imho.

oh and i agree with the guy that said it's justify vs just a fine line
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No its satan, not Jesus. Shine on forever benevolent son = micheal son of the morning/ morning star. If you want more evidence he mentions Legion - the three daemons as a parody of the father the son and the holy ghost. On the surface its sounds like hes singing about Jesus, but think a lttle deeper and he isnt. :)

If you want more evidence that he hasnt found Jesus listen to the Aliester Crowley stuff on Intention.
so how does him telling the legion to shut up and get out of his way imply that he is worshipping satan? i don't think he's found jesus either, mind you, but just something higher. this is just an extension from 'reflections' imho.

oh and i agree with the guy that said it's justify vs just a fine line
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No i dont think hes worshipping Satan in a cheesy black metal sense. Its a reference to Satan as Baphomet its not like he hasnt referenced it before. "As above so below" on Lateralus in fact the lyrics of that album seem to be pretty obsessed with it (see Reflection aswell). Baphomet is seen as a fair judge, benevolent even, but his image is the Satan archetype.

From wikipedia:

"The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The ugly beast's head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely responsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi- circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyn arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences."

Taking into account the lyrics from intention aswell, i think this is a reocurring theme.

Also see Chaos in connection with Thelma.

Edit: Im talking complete and utter turd arent I?

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No i dont think hes worshipping Satan in a cheesy black metal sense. Its a reference to Satan as Baphomet its not like he hasnt referenced it before. "As above so below" on Lateralus in fact the lyrics of that album seem to be pretty obsessed with it (see Reflection aswell). Baphomet is seen as a fair judge, benevolent even, but his image is the Satan archetype.

From wikipedia:

"The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The ugly beast's head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely responsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi- circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyn arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences."

Taking into account the lyrics from intention aswell, i think this is a reocurring theme.

Also see Chaos in connection with Thelma.

Edit: Im talking complete and utter turd arent I?

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Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should comprimise
or fall from what you need to find me then
I might as well be gone

hell no its

Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should comprimise
our OPRAH/OKRA from what you need to find me then
I might as well be gone

im jk. I think your interpretation is the closest, except


Damn my eyes if they should compromise
our [two syllable word] from what you need if I leave then
I might as well be gone. fulcrum is a possiblilty. he sings the part smoothly with no breaks up to that part, sounds like he starts with an A, but its hard to tell.
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Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should comprimise
or fall from what you need to find me then
I might as well be gone

hell no its

Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should comprimise
our OPRAH/OKRA from what you need to find me then
I might as well be gone

im jk. I think your interpretation is the closest, except


Damn my eyes if they should compromise
our [two syllable word] from what you need if I leave then
I might as well be gone. fulcrum is a possiblilty. he sings the part smoothly with no breaks up to that part, sounds like he starts with an A, but its hard to tell.
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I'm new here, but here's my interpretation....most of what I've read I agree with...the rest is changed accordingly...

Here from the king's mountain view,
Here from the wild dream come true,
Feast like a sultan I do
On treasures and flesh, never few.

But I, I would wish it all away
If I thought I'd lose you just one day.

The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I fell.
Dabbling all the way down
Up to my neck soon to drown.

But you changed that all for me.
Lifted me up, turned me 'round
So I,
I,
I,
I...

I would,
I would,
I would,
Wish this all away...

Prayed like a martyr, dusk till dawn,
Begged like a hooker all night long,
Tempted the devil with my song,
And got what I wanted all along.

But I,
And I would,
If I could,
And I would

Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold sway
Or justify my
Kneeling away my sinner/center.

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow, they'd take you away.
You're my peace of mind, my home
I said I'm just trying to hold on
One more day.

Damn my eyes.
Damn my eyes.

Damn my eyes.
If they should compromise
Or fall from what you need to find me then, (This line is still unclear to me)
I might as well be gone.

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent son/sun

Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent son/sun

Shine on upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'm withering away
Divided I wither away

Shine on upon the many, light our way
Benevolent son/sun

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
Another day and season

Silence leech, and save your poison
Silence leech, and stay out of my way

(The last two lines are still unclear to me but this is the best interpretation i could find to fit)

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I'm new here, but here's my interpretation....most of what I've read I agree with...the rest is changed accordingly...

Here from the king's mountain view,
Here from the wild dream come true,
Feast like a sultan I do
On treasures and flesh, never few.

But I, I would wish it all away
If I thought I'd lose you just one day.

The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I fell.
Dabbling all the way down
Up to my neck soon to drown.

But you changed that all for me.
Lifted me up, turned me 'round
So I,
I,
I,
I...

I would,
I would,
I would,
Wish this all away...

Prayed like a martyr, dusk till dawn,
Begged like a hooker all night long,
Tempted the devil with my song,
And got what I wanted all along.

But I,
And I would,
If I could,
And I would

Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold sway
Or justify my
Kneeling away my sinner/center.

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow, they'd take you away.
You're my peace of mind, my home
I said I'm just trying to hold on
One more day.

Damn my eyes.
Damn my eyes.

Damn my eyes.
If they should compromise
Or fall from what you need to find me then, (This line is still unclear to me)
I might as well be gone.

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent son/sun

Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent son/sun

Shine on upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'm withering away
Divided I wither away

Shine on upon the many, light our way
Benevolent son/sun

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
Another day and season

Silence leech, and save your poison
Silence leech, and stay out of my way

(The last two lines are still unclear to me but this is the best interpretation i could find to fit)

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