I always thought that the baby crying represented loneliness. Nothing is there to comfort the baby's crying. Then the next sound you hear is a rocket ship. How f*cking lonely is outer space? I don't know where this is going but I would bet feeling alone is the theme in this song.
it like life before death. Aenema hits, talking about tidal waves and meteors hitting the planet then (-) Ions hit and its minus life........Ions sounds like a mass storm that just ends it all!!
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Hey, thanks for the insightful, informative, and productive post.
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I mean, the answer from the FAQ really doesn't tell me anything that I really didn't already know; except for the fact that we'll probably never know the true meaning of the song...
Good point, I was merely trying to answer one of the two questions that the thread starter asked. As for the significance, well, like you said.
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Just to let you know... Lyrics in Pushit (the song BEFORE this segue) are as follows "Kill this Infant Here before me". Is it possible someone is "Killing the infant before him", and i dont mean, kill the baby before you kill me, i mean The infant infront of him, as if this child isnt susposed to live. maybesymbolizing somthing new that shouldny be alive (maybe modern music or socity, which is what Maynard is so disgusted about in Ænema). You ever think that CS TIES the two songs together? That's what a segue does...
Well, Summability relates to Math. A property of functions or sets depending on a measure. There are p-integrable functions for any positive real number 'p'. A property of modules of differential forms, which relates to foliations and the Frobenius theorem. The integrability of an ordinary differential equation may refer to integration by quadratures (indefinite integrals). Basically for the kids who cant understand this....if P=4, it has 4 interchangeable parts.
I may be wrong here but Ernesto Cesaro came up with that... but i still have no idea what killing a baby has to do with math. There are many posibilities of what Cesaro can be. If you look it up on wikipedia, there are many posible results, but not a clear one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesaro_Summation
check that out. that's the closest thing i could find to a real meaning, but its an explanation of a math formula that uses positive and negitave values. The negative value could mean killing a baby and the positive could be staying alive? so Killing a baby to stay alive? Stem cell research? nah... well... maybe...
I think the baby is supposed to represent Devo. If you listen to the Demos for Push-it, Maynard says take this infant instead of kill. That gives you a more realistic view of what was going on. I think Push-it is about Maynards relationship with Brena, Things were going down hill and a baby just complicated things that much more. After all the fighting they did and things would calm down there was still a baby to take care of.
I think the baby is supposed to represent Devo. If you listen to the Demos for Push-it, Maynard says take this infant instead of kill. That gives you a more realistic view of what was going on. I think Push-it is about Maynards relationship with Brena, Things were going down hill and a baby just complicated things that much more. After all the fighting they did and things would calm down there was still a baby to take care of.
demos for pushit? where can this be found?
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I think the infant in Pushit that is spoken about is an idea or something Maynard sees is growing and it must be stoped before it grows too big. Something that he created. "What are you but my reflection" He sees himself in this and wants it to stop before it matures.
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Immediately I thought cesaro was like cesarian as opposed to natural birth. It sounds in parts like the voice is saying 'in...out' at times as well - althought that would be synonnymous (sp?) with a natural birth not a C-section.
Just to let you know... Lyrics in Pushit (the song BEFORE this segue) are as follows "Kill this Infant Here before me". Is it possible someone is "Killing the infant before him", and i dont mean, kill the baby before you kill me, i mean The infant infront of him, as if this child isnt susposed to live. maybesymbolizing somthing new that shouldny be alive (maybe modern music or socity, which is what Maynard is so disgusted about in Ænema). You ever think that CS TIES the two songs together? That's what a segue does...
That is a sweet idea. Yet maybe the infant before him is saying the infant BEFORE the song. The baby crying in this song. Just a thought.
Has anyone seen the movie The Girl with the Pearl Earring? Pretty good movie, I'd recommend it, but anyhoo... in the first hour of the movie there's a scene where someone gives birth, and the soundbyte they used is the EXACT SAME baby cry from CS! Now, this would lead me to suspect that the cry in CS is just a sampled soundbyte. Either that, or the director of the movie is a big Tool fan.
anyway. where it comes from doesnt really matter, but the sound of the cry. if anyone has been around babies, you would know babies cry for different reasons, and each cry can sound different. this is undoubtedly a baby in pain. i usually skip this track, the scream sends chills down my spine.
yeah, I know what you mean (I have a 2-year old). Although, this baby to me sounds more like its crying because its hungry or alone. But, you should watch that movie anyways.. its pretty darn good.
Just to let you know... Lyrics in Pushit (the song BEFORE this segue) are as follows "Kill this Infant Here before me". Is it possible someone is "Killing the infant before him", and i dont mean, kill the baby before you kill me, i mean The infant infront of him, as if this child isnt susposed to live. maybesymbolizing somthing new that shouldny be alive (maybe modern music or socity, which is what Maynard is so disgusted about in Ænema). You ever think that CS TIES the two songs together? That's what a segue does...
just to be a jerk its "choke this infant here befome me" but i belive thin can relate to any song around it and just think what you want to make yer own meaning of it
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Could it be that the cry is meant to be of a baby that was just born? Maybe its supposed to be his inner child reborn. It is a possibility.
"choke this infant here before me" could be his inner child. Someone or some people could be trying to wound or scar his inner child.
11 in jimmy could be his inner child. 11 got scarred when Maynard was eleven, so 11 was standing still waiting for Maynard to free him again. It could be about finding and healing his inner child.
Old school wrestlers (barbarian brothers) in a movie that came out in 1994 - called Twin Sitters. (the earthquake in the background also happened in 94)
