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So I might have missed something in the ordering process and ended up sending an email to confirm, but for anyone else wondering clinic tickets will be available at will call - valid photo ID needed. Only the merch package is being shipped.
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So I might have missed something in the ordering process and ended up sending an email to confirm, but for anyone else wondering clinic tickets will be available at will call - valid photo ID needed. Only the merch package is being shipped.
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So I might have missed something in the ordering process and ended up sending an email to confirm, but for anyone else wondering clinic tickets will be available at will call - valid photo ID needed. Only the merch package is being shipped.
So am I expecting merch in the mail? I was under the impression it would be available at the venue... I paid the $3 for a snail mail ticket, because that’s the kind of guy I am.
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So I might have missed something in the ordering process and ended up sending an email to confirm, but for anyone else wondering clinic tickets will be available at will call - valid photo ID needed. Only the merch package is being shipped.
So am I expecting merch in the mail? I was under the impression it would be available at the venue... I paid the $3 for a snail mail ticket, because that’s the kind of guy I am.
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I printed a ticket. It has a barcode but i figured i could still get mine at will call if needed.

pretty hype for this. Especially it being the first one in St. Paul.
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I printed a ticket. It has a barcode but i figured i could still get mine at will call if needed.

pretty hype for this. Especially it being the first one in St. Paul.
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I printed a ticket. It has a barcode but i figured i could still get mine at will call if needed.

pretty hype for this. Especially it being the first one in St. Paul.
Curious... what’s wrong with a barcode?
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I printed a ticket. It has a barcode but i figured i could still get mine at will call if needed.

pretty hype for this. Especially it being the first one in St. Paul.
Curious... what’s wrong with a barcode?
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I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It's just a large paper ticket, so i figured i could use it.

Any one else here going to St.Paul?
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I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It's just a large paper ticket, so i figured i could use it.

Any one else here going to St.Paul?
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Tried to make it st Paul for the first clinic, but airfare was $300+. Flying into Chicago for about $120 made things doable. Just happy I could make it to any of them.
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Tried to make it st Paul for the first clinic, but airfare was $300+. Flying into Chicago for about $120 made things doable. Just happy I could make it to any of them.
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That's how long I've been having sex.

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Hey, Junior... will you be a part of the music clinics?
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Hey, Junior... will you be a part of the music clinics?
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So, May14th will be my 1st time in Chicago. I land at 6:30am and have the day to sightsee, and then a few hours after the show before I have to head back to O’Hare... anyone have some tips on public transit, historic bars, late night eats, or things to do before/after the show? Really excited for this.
I'll second the Kuma's Corner recommendation.
For hot dogs go to Hot G Dogs, not Portillos.
For pizza go to Pequods, not Giordanos.
If you like craft beer hit Revolution or Half Acre.
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So, May14th will be my 1st time in Chicago. I land at 6:30am and have the day to sightsee, and then a few hours after the show before I have to head back to O’Hare... anyone have some tips on public transit, historic bars, late night eats, or things to do before/after the show? Really excited for this.
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Pequods? get fucked.

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Pequods? get fucked.

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Ah that's right, i was trolling yesterday. Seriously tho... while it's not my favorite, there's nothing wrong with Giordano's. Same goes for portillos. You don't become a successful pizza or hot dog chain in the chicago market without knowing what you're doing.

Anyways; re: the clinics, I guess the word is that the merch packages for the clinics won't be sent out until the end of the month. So I guess no one is to expect to get them before any of the clinics.

Makes me wonder if anything in the package comes "pre-signed". My idea to sell some signed merch on ebay to recoup the cost of the ticket might either be shot... or require me to spend more money at the clinic. Whatever.
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Ah that's right, i was trolling yesterday. Seriously tho... while it's not my favorite, there's nothing wrong with Giordano's. Same goes for portillos. You don't become a successful pizza or hot dog chain in the chicago market without knowing what you're doing.

Anyways; re: the clinics, I guess the word is that the merch packages for the clinics won't be sent out until the end of the month. So I guess no one is to expect to get them before any of the clinics.

Makes me wonder if anything in the package comes "pre-signed". My idea to sell some signed merch on ebay to recoup the cost of the ticket might either be shot... or require me to spend more money at the clinic. Whatever.
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So I might have missed something in the ordering process and ended up sending an email to confirm, but for anyone else wondering clinic tickets will be available at will call - valid photo ID needed. Only the merch package is being shipped.
I actually confirmned that this is not correct of the St. Paul Clinic. I got an e-mail today from them that states you have to either have your printed ticket, or have it on your phone.
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So I might have missed something in the ordering process and ended up sending an email to confirm, but for anyone else wondering clinic tickets will be available at will call - valid photo ID needed. Only the merch package is being shipped.
I actually confirmned that this is not correct of the St. Paul Clinic. I got an e-mail today from them that states you have to either have your printed ticket, or have it on your phone.
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It must be different for different venues and/or how you purchased the ticket. I got pre-sale for the chicago clinic and my email says that the ticket will be available at will call for the venue. So I am partially wrong in assuming that that was the case across the board. It had me a little anxious for a while because I didn't read that anywhere during the purchasing process. I had to contact Tool merch support.
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It must be different for different venues and/or how you purchased the ticket. I got pre-sale for the chicago clinic and my email says that the ticket will be available at will call for the venue. So I am partially wrong in assuming that that was the case across the board. It had me a little anxious for a while because I didn't read that anywhere during the purchasing process. I had to contact Tool merch support.
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I don't see why they wouldn't have some sort of list when you paid $500. I did get mine from the tool webstie, but when you purchase there you are redirected to the etix website, so i assumed thats how everyone purchased.

It however, was not purchased through presale so maybe that is the difference. Either way i don't like being jabbed for 23 more dollars in shipping LOL.
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I don't see why they wouldn't have some sort of list when you paid $500. I did get mine from the tool webstie, but when you purchase there you are redirected to the etix website, so i assumed thats how everyone purchased.

It however, was not purchased through presale so maybe that is the difference. Either way i don't like being jabbed for 23 more dollars in shipping LOL.
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Hey guys, it's been forever since I was here. To make a long story short, cancer sucks. I won't be able to see a music clinic because it's just too much money, but I will be at ROTR for my 17th Tool show. Anyone else going?
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Hey guys, it's been forever since I was here. To make a long story short, cancer sucks. I won't be able to see a music clinic because it's just too much money, but I will be at ROTR for my 17th Tool show. Anyone else going?
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Do you think they’d consider pen / paper a “recording device “?
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Do you think they’d consider pen / paper a “recording device “?
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not liking their aesthetic lately...
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looks like weeb art
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Do you think they’d consider pen / paper a “recording device “?
I doubt it. Maybe not the worst idea.
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Do you think they’d consider pen / paper a “recording device “?
I doubt it. Maybe not the worst idea.
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hello strangers. haven't been here in a long time. i missed you fuckers.

i am going to APC in Missouri on Wednesday - if anyone else is there let me know we can meet up.

Also going to the festival next weekend in Columbus. I don't have tickets yet. Looking for extras (field GA is sold out for Sunday). Also down to meet up over the festival weekend for beers if anyone is in the area.

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hello strangers. haven't been here in a long time. i missed you fuckers.

i am going to APC in Missouri on Wednesday - if anyone else is there let me know we can meet up.

Also going to the festival next weekend in Columbus. I don't have tickets yet. Looking for extras (field GA is sold out for Sunday). Also down to meet up over the festival weekend for beers if anyone is in the area.

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The Grudge
Parabol
Parabola
Schism (extended)
Opiate
Ænema
Jambi
Sober
Forty-Six & 2
Sweat
Descending
Stinkfist (Extended)

I'm going to guess that Opiate was also the new extended version as well. Good to see Sober back in the setlist, but unsurprisingly it seems like it's more or less the same show as the last few years.
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The Grudge
Parabol
Parabola
Schism (extended)
Opiate
Ænema
Jambi
Sober
Forty-Six & 2
Sweat
Descending
Stinkfist (Extended)

I'm going to guess that Opiate was also the new extended version as well. Good to see Sober back in the setlist, but unsurprisingly it seems like it's more or less the same show as the last few years.
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The Grudge
Parabol
Parabola
Schism (extended)
Opiate
Ænema
Jambi
Sober
Forty-Six & 2
Sweat
Descending
Stinkfist (Extended)

I'm going to guess that Opiate was also the new extended version as well. Good to see Sober back in the setlist, but unsurprisingly it seems like it's more or less the same show as the last few years.
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The Grudge
Parabol
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Opiate
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Jambi
Sober
Forty-Six & 2
Sweat
Descending
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I'm going to guess that Opiate was also the new extended version as well. Good to see Sober back in the setlist, but unsurprisingly it seems like it's more or less the same show as the last few years.
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the only change from last tour is replacing Third Eye with Sober then?
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the only change from last tour is replacing Third Eye with Sober then?
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Just got to the Vic theater for the Chicago clinic. I can see piles of merch thru the window. I guess I wasn’t expecting that. I’ll probably be the only one wearing a UofA hat if anyone wants to say hi.
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Just got to the Vic theater for the Chicago clinic. I can see piles of merch thru the window. I guess I wasn’t expecting that. I’ll probably be the only one wearing a UofA hat if anyone wants to say hi.
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^stoked for ya!! Tell them to please release a live album while we are waiting on the new album. Let them know that will help us(me) be more patient, haha.
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^stoked for ya!! Tell them to please release a live album while we are waiting on the new album. Let them know that will help us(me) be more patient, haha.
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swimminginmusic, Would love to hear a recap of clinic! I won't be able to make it out to any of them so I'm curious to hear what people think.
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swimminginmusic, Would love to hear a recap of clinic! I won't be able to make it out to any of them so I'm curious to hear what people think.
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the only change from last tour is replacing Third Eye with Sober then?
And remove Vicarious/The Pot

feels like a time constraint, to me. 12 songs instead of 13 and swapping out the behemoth third eye with a shorter, but easily more well known song kind of makes sense.

I wonder if they forgoed the drum solo that usually followed the "intermission".
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the only change from last tour is replacing Third Eye with Sober then?
And remove Vicarious/The Pot

feels like a time constraint, to me. 12 songs instead of 13 and swapping out the behemoth third eye with a shorter, but easily more well known song kind of makes sense.

I wonder if they forgoed the drum solo that usually followed the "intermission".
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It's a festival set, so was always going to be marginally shorter than a Tool only show. Sober makes more sense in a festival setting.

Also I don't think it's fair comparing it to the last Tool show, which was that special Tool min-festival thing out at San Bernadino - that was a longer than average show.

Compared to the last regular show, they've swapped out Vicarious and Third Eye for Sweat and Sober.
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It's a festival set, so was always going to be marginally shorter than a Tool only show. Sober makes more sense in a festival setting.

Also I don't think it's fair comparing it to the last Tool show, which was that special Tool min-festival thing out at San Bernadino - that was a longer than average show.

Compared to the last regular show, they've swapped out Vicarious and Third Eye for Sweat and Sober.
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About to pass out, but wanted to say that the clinic was largely enjoyable. Here are some notes before I forget.

-they played the grudge, eulogy, descending, jambi, a new segue performed/written by Danny (may* be on the new album), and aenima
-the crowd was super appreciative and into it but split into two camps; one could have ask questions all night, the other just wanted them to keep playing
-they showed us the 2/3rds of the new video for Opiate, it's good.
-they all are incredibly humble and grateful for fans support but maintain their desire to be creative on their own terms
-Adam was feeling under the weather
-Adam stated he's more excited about this next album than he has been about anything he's ever worked on.
-a couple questions were asked pertaining to the band's interest in exploring VR and the response was reserved. They're open to it but it would have to be accessible and it would have to make sense. I took that to mean they wouldn't want it to feel gimmicky.
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About to pass out, but wanted to say that the clinic was largely enjoyable. Here are some notes before I forget.

-they played the grudge, eulogy, descending, jambi, a new segue performed/written by Danny (may* be on the new album), and aenima
-the crowd was super appreciative and into it but split into two camps; one could have ask questions all night, the other just wanted them to keep playing
-they showed us the 2/3rds of the new video for Opiate, it's good.
-they all are incredibly humble and grateful for fans support but maintain their desire to be creative on their own terms
-Adam was feeling under the weather
-Adam stated he's more excited about this next album than he has been about anything he's ever worked on.
-a couple questions were asked pertaining to the band's interest in exploring VR and the response was reserved. They're open to it but it would have to be accessible and it would have to make sense. I took that to mean they wouldn't want it to feel gimmicky.
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swimminginmusic, Would love to hear a recap of clinic! I won't be able to make it out to any of them so I'm curious to hear what people think.
Currently waiting for the train back to O’Hare. Definitely a completely new tool experience for me. I did some early morning sight-seeing and got to the venu about noon. Nobody was in line yet, but 3 tour busses and semis were parked out front, so I decided to take the first seat and watch them unload. After about an hour, Adam walks up, introduces himself (like I didn’t know who he was), and asked if I was there for the show. We spoke for a min and he asked if I could step out of frame while he took a picture with the marquee. All I was thinking was “Be cool. Just be cool...”

The doors were delayed by about 20 mins because the Yondr phone pouches were stuck in traffic, but as soon as they arrived, it was on. 1st through the door so I was about 6ft from Danny’s drumset and dead center. They kept most of the lights on during the performance and Adam encouraged the house lights to stay on during Q&A.

They’d play a couple songs, then sit down and answer some questions, then go back and play some songs. The time seemed to go by VERY quickly. After they were done, we filed out, got our phones back, and were free to either take pics of the artifact museum, or line up to take a picture with Danny & Justin. Security made it clear there was no time for bullshitting. A quick handshake & a picture.

Shirts and signed posters (maybe unsigned also) for ROTR & Northern Invasion were available as well as regular merch. The NI posters were the same design, only blueish.

As far as Chicago goes, I walked thru Millennium Park, hotdog at Portillos, talked to cooks behind Alinea (I’m a chef/fan), saw wriglyville during a game, and had a shot of Malort & beers at Delilah’s Punk & whiskey bar. Thanks for the advice.

Looking forward to reading more reports.
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swimminginmusic, Would love to hear a recap of clinic! I won't be able to make it out to any of them so I'm curious to hear what people think.
Currently waiting for the train back to O’Hare. Definitely a completely new tool experience for me. I did some early morning sight-seeing and got to the venu about noon. Nobody was in line yet, but 3 tour busses and semis were parked out front, so I decided to take the first seat and watch them unload. After about an hour, Adam walks up, introduces himself (like I didn’t know who he was), and asked if I was there for the show. We spoke for a min and he asked if I could step out of frame while he took a picture with the marquee. All I was thinking was “Be cool. Just be cool...”

The doors were delayed by about 20 mins because the Yondr phone pouches were stuck in traffic, but as soon as they arrived, it was on. 1st through the door so I was about 6ft from Danny’s drumset and dead center. They kept most of the lights on during the performance and Adam encouraged the house lights to stay on during Q&A.

They’d play a couple songs, then sit down and answer some questions, then go back and play some songs. The time seemed to go by VERY quickly. After they were done, we filed out, got our phones back, and were free to either take pics of the artifact museum, or line up to take a picture with Danny & Justin. Security made it clear there was no time for bullshitting. A quick handshake & a picture.

Shirts and signed posters (maybe unsigned also) for ROTR & Northern Invasion were available as well as regular merch. The NI posters were the same design, only blueish.

As far as Chicago goes, I walked thru Millennium Park, hotdog at Portillos, talked to cooks behind Alinea (I’m a chef/fan), saw wriglyville during a game, and had a shot of Malort & beers at Delilah’s Punk & whiskey bar. Thanks for the advice.

Looking forward to reading more reports.
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Some more notes that i remembered this morning, and some summary thoughts on the Chicago Clinic;

-When asked what song *that we've heard* took the longest to write, at first Justin answered "Third Eye", but then after a quick exchange with Adam he replaced that with Wings(1&2). Adam commented further that sometimes one of them might have a riff that they really love but it's just not working the context of any arrangement. It might be several years later when someone else comes in with another and they have some eureka moment when suddenly that old riff the other guy had stashed away suddenly works. He then said (if i recall correctly) "This time there's like seven of those." Which I assumed meant tracks on the new album; roughly insinuating that that type of occurrence happened a lot during this writing phase.

-for anyone else attending, sitting the the front row could really pay off big time (assuming what im about to say sounds appealing). During one of the Q&A's, a couple guys in the front row ahead of me asked Adam's guitar tech if they could hold Adam's guitar and he agreed. He hoisted Adam's silverburst over the divider and the guy even got to try his hand a few licks. Others nearby reached out quickly just to grab it briefly. This lasted about a minute before the guys in the front row graciously offered the guitar back to Adam's tech. -- Also, just before they started performing, Adam walked up to the railing, leaned over and said to everyone in the section in front of him, "Look guys, I just want to say I'm sorry, but...", he turned back and pointed toward his amps then faced the crowd again and said, "... It's going to be brutal". To that point, it was probably the loudest performance I've ever heard at the Vic, but still comfortable.

-The first couple songs, the crowd sang along - which, for any other tool "concert" that can get annoying in a hurry; Here, it was really neat. Justin loved it. He even made a point to encourage it from the crowd because it's not an experience they often get to feel that intimate connection to the crowd.

-A guy the crowd who traveled from Bangladesh asked if Tool would ever consider touring in that part of the world. Justin mostly fielded that question saying that until they're touring to support the new record, they'll be staying "close to home". But ultimately answered with the equivalent of 'anything's possible'.

-Regarding the VIP merch packages that will be send out; Adam said toward the end that the intent was to get those out before the clinic tour started. He seemed a little upset that they weren't able to get those out in time, but stated that the items (one in particular being a pin) were meant to be symbolic of the shared experience and he hoped that that sentiment would still be received. At first I kind of felt this thought of, "Alright, it's just a pin and some merch. No need to be upset about it." But this and a couple other comments Adam made during the clinic made it clear; He's really emotionally invested in everything Tool does, even to this day. It's funny; I mention this because whenever Adam was performing, he looked as he always does... He's not very animated, just stiff and deliberate in his motions. Justin practically dances the whole time. Meanwhile, I caught Adam rifling through a riff during The Grudge with ease while leaning over his rig to have a quick conversation with his guitar tech. Things like that both made me appreciate Adam's skill to have all of that chaos locked down to muscle memory - but also made me wonder if his heart was really in it... But the way he talks about the band; It definitely is. He loves this band. He loves what they are doing.

-The Opiate Video: I don't know if this was already cleared up before; but Adam confirmed it. This is the video that Adam/Tool gave full creative license to Dominic Hailstone to do whatever he wanted with the video. Adam said that the best part about it was seeing the video for the first time just like we were about to... The video visually/stylistically is definitely different, but certainly within the Tool universe. There's lots of symbolism and visual metaphor, but notably a larger color palette. A lot more pinks and purples that then standard blue/grey/black/white scheme that nearly every Tool video features.

Highlight for spoilers... This is as much as I can pull from memory; The video features a dark barren landscape dotted with what appeared to be something like tombstones. Floating above the barren landscape was a luminescent ball of red/pink gas that appeared to be symbolic of some sort of God figure. When the music really kicks in with "Deaf and Blind and Dumb and.." a creature bursts out of this black soupy mud and starts flopping about on the ground. As the song progresses we watch this creature violently morph and evolve into a grotesque walking creature. Eventually it forms a hand with something like 7 fingers then protrudes an appendage that reaches up toward the bright, smokey, God ball... the point when it makes contact is when the new extended part of the song kicks it. At this point the video gets very colorful and trippy. I got lost in it by that point. When I caught myself doing that, I thought; "Well that's a good thing... it's been a while since I felt that way about Tool." Moments before the extension wraps up, the video becomes this soupy and bright mix of pinks and purples where you can distinctly see two faces converge and kiss. This is the last significant image I could really make out (no pun intended) before they stopped the video. Adam bluntly/jokingly stated, "We thought we'd save the 3rd act for you for when we release it... obviously... we'd still like to make some more money off you guys." It seemed clear to me that the creature in the video was eventually going to morph into the 6 armed priest from the Opiate cover art.
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Summary thoughts: By and large, I felt like this was an enjoyable experience. I sat 10 feet from Adam and when they played Eulogy in particular... well let's just say I *thought* I knew how to play that song. The meet and mingle was just Danny and Justin, which was fine, I figured this was because Adam said he was sick. It was as swimming stated, mostly a just a quick "hi, nice to meet you" take a picture and move along, type thing. Which was a little awkward... It's not something I really felt like a needed to do, but I figured I might as well given the amount of money I spent. I struggled to think up something to say when it was my turn, but finally settled on simply thanking them for nearly 20 years ago, "forcing me out of my stubborn dismissal of King Crimson". They both laughed, Danny said "I love those guys" and Justin leaned in and asked me, "So what's the secret?". I said, I wasn't quite sure but I experienced a lot of different music beyond that point. At that point I posed for my picture, thanked them both and said I was looking forward to the new album. I felt like that went as well as it could, but it still felt awkward. Barely even real. I'm glad I did it... but I certainly didn't *need* to. If I went to another one of these, I don't think I'd do it again... but it made me wonder why they couldn't have broken up the ticket packages into 2 separate categories. Maybe $250/500 where the more expensive included the signed, commemorative ticket and the meet and "mingle". I say this mostly because this made existing the venue take really(!) long time for some people that may have not even been interested.

Anyways; I left feeling satisfied. It was a little unhinged at times because they didn't want the experience to feel structured. They wanted the audience to guide the experience, and as I stated earlier, I think there was a disparity amongst the attendees as to what that experience should be.
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Some more notes that i remembered this morning, and some summary thoughts on the Chicago Clinic;

-When asked what song *that we've heard* took the longest to write, at first Justin answered "Third Eye", but then after a quick exchange with Adam he replaced that with Wings(1&2). Adam commented further that sometimes one of them might have a riff that they really love but it's just not working the context of any arrangement. It might be several years later when someone else comes in with another and they have some eureka moment when suddenly that old riff the other guy had stashed away suddenly works. He then said (if i recall correctly) "This time there's like seven of those." Which I assumed meant tracks on the new album; roughly insinuating that that type of occurrence happened a lot during this writing phase.

-for anyone else attending, sitting the the front row could really pay off big time (assuming what im about to say sounds appealing). During one of the Q&A's, a couple guys in the front row ahead of me asked Adam's guitar tech if they could hold Adam's guitar and he agreed. He hoisted Adam's silverburst over the divider and the guy even got to try his hand a few licks. Others nearby reached out quickly just to grab it briefly. This lasted about a minute before the guys in the front row graciously offered the guitar back to Adam's tech. -- Also, just before they started performing, Adam walked up to the railing, leaned over and said to everyone in the section in front of him, "Look guys, I just want to say I'm sorry, but...", he turned back and pointed toward his amps then faced the crowd again and said, "... It's going to be brutal". To that point, it was probably the loudest performance I've ever heard at the Vic, but still comfortable.

-The first couple songs, the crowd sang along - which, for any other tool "concert" that can get annoying in a hurry; Here, it was really neat. Justin loved it. He even made a point to encourage it from the crowd because it's not an experience they often get to feel that intimate connection to the crowd.

-A guy the crowd who traveled from Bangladesh asked if Tool would ever consider touring in that part of the world. Justin mostly fielded that question saying that until they're touring to support the new record, they'll be staying "close to home". But ultimately answered with the equivalent of 'anything's possible'.

-Regarding the VIP merch packages that will be send out; Adam said toward the end that the intent was to get those out before the clinic tour started. He seemed a little upset that they weren't able to get those out in time, but stated that the items (one in particular being a pin) were meant to be symbolic of the shared experience and he hoped that that sentiment would still be received. At first I kind of felt this thought of, "Alright, it's just a pin and some merch. No need to be upset about it." But this and a couple other comments Adam made during the clinic made it clear; He's really emotionally invested in everything Tool does, even to this day. It's funny; I mention this because whenever Adam was performing, he looked as he always does... He's not very animated, just stiff and deliberate in his motions. Justin practically dances the whole time. Meanwhile, I caught Adam rifling through a riff during The Grudge with ease while leaning over his rig to have a quick conversation with his guitar tech. Things like that both made me appreciate Adam's skill to have all of that chaos locked down to muscle memory - but also made me wonder if his heart was really in it... But the way he talks about the band; It definitely is. He loves this band. He loves what they are doing.

-The Opiate Video: I don't know if this was already cleared up before; but Adam confirmed it. This is the video that Adam/Tool gave full creative license to Dominic Hailstone to do whatever he wanted with the video. Adam said that the best part about it was seeing the video for the first time just like we were about to... The video visually/stylistically is definitely different, but certainly within the Tool universe. There's lots of symbolism and visual metaphor, but notably a larger color palette. A lot more pinks and purples that then standard blue/grey/black/white scheme that nearly every Tool video features.

Highlight for spoilers... This is as much as I can pull from memory; The video features a dark barren landscape dotted with what appeared to be something like tombstones. Floating above the barren landscape was a luminescent ball of red/pink gas that appeared to be symbolic of some sort of God figure. When the music really kicks in with "Deaf and Blind and Dumb and.." a creature bursts out of this black soupy mud and starts flopping about on the ground. As the song progresses we watch this creature violently morph and evolve into a grotesque walking creature. Eventually it forms a hand with something like 7 fingers then protrudes an appendage that reaches up toward the bright, smokey, God ball... the point when it makes contact is when the new extended part of the song kicks it. At this point the video gets very colorful and trippy. I got lost in it by that point. When I caught myself doing that, I thought; "Well that's a good thing... it's been a while since I felt that way about Tool." Moments before the extension wraps up, the video becomes this soupy and bright mix of pinks and purples where you can distinctly see two faces converge and kiss. This is the last significant image I could really make out (no pun intended) before they stopped the video. Adam bluntly/jokingly stated, "We thought we'd save the 3rd act for you for when we release it... obviously... we'd still like to make some more money off you guys." It seemed clear to me that the creature in the video was eventually going to morph into the 6 armed priest from the Opiate cover art.
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Summary thoughts: By and large, I felt like this was an enjoyable experience. I sat 10 feet from Adam and when they played Eulogy in particular... well let's just say I *thought* I knew how to play that song. The meet and mingle was just Danny and Justin, which was fine, I figured this was because Adam said he was sick. It was as swimming stated, mostly a just a quick "hi, nice to meet you" take a picture and move along, type thing. Which was a little awkward... It's not something I really felt like a needed to do, but I figured I might as well given the amount of money I spent. I struggled to think up something to say when it was my turn, but finally settled on simply thanking them for nearly 20 years ago, "forcing me out of my stubborn dismissal of King Crimson". They both laughed, Danny said "I love those guys" and Justin leaned in and asked me, "So what's the secret?". I said, I wasn't quite sure but I experienced a lot of different music beyond that point. At that point I posed for my picture, thanked them both and said I was looking forward to the new album. I felt like that went as well as it could, but it still felt awkward. Barely even real. I'm glad I did it... but I certainly didn't *need* to. If I went to another one of these, I don't think I'd do it again... but it made me wonder why they couldn't have broken up the ticket packages into 2 separate categories. Maybe $250/500 where the more expensive included the signed, commemorative ticket and the meet and "mingle". I say this mostly because this made existing the venue take really(!) long time for some people that may have not even been interested.

Anyways; I left feeling satisfied. It was a little unhinged at times because they didn't want the experience to feel structured. They wanted the audience to guide the experience, and as I stated earlier, I think there was a disparity amongst the attendees as to what that experience should be.
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Thanks for the great review eE. Cool to hear about the Bangladeshi fan - Tool ain't going anywhere near his country though, despite Justin's optimism!
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Thanks for the great review eE. Cool to hear about the Bangladeshi fan - Tool ain't going anywhere near his country though, despite Justin's optimism!
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Thanks for the great review eE. Cool to hear about the Bangladeshi fan - Tool ain't going anywhere near his country though, despite Justin's optimism!
I think even Justin knew that. He was certainly doing his best to humor him without making it too obvious.

btw, just had a chance to re-read my post and I apologize for all of the typo's. I did a quick skim while proofreading this morning; but clearly my fingers have a mind of their own whenever I type out big posts and I missed a bunch I should have corrected. Hopefully it's still understandale.

@Swimming; The only thing I never really got around to doing was checking out the "memorabilia museum" they had back by the bar area. Did you check it out? If so, did you get any pictures of it?
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Thanks for the great review eE. Cool to hear about the Bangladeshi fan - Tool ain't going anywhere near his country though, despite Justin's optimism!
I think even Justin knew that. He was certainly doing his best to humor him without making it too obvious.

btw, just had a chance to re-read my post and I apologize for all of the typo's. I did a quick skim while proofreading this morning; but clearly my fingers have a mind of their own whenever I type out big posts and I missed a bunch I should have corrected. Hopefully it's still understandale.

@Swimming; The only thing I never really got around to doing was checking out the "memorabilia museum" they had back by the bar area. Did you check it out? If so, did you get any pictures of it?
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@Swimming; The only thing I never really got around to doing was checking out the "memorabilia museum" they had back by the bar area. Did you check it out? If so, did you get any pictures of it?
They had a couple of framed platinum records, sculptures & masks on display. It was rather small, maybe 12 items or so. Cool to see some of the things from the videos in person. Also, the amount of detail in the opiate priest was amazing.
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@Swimming; The only thing I never really got around to doing was checking out the "memorabilia museum" they had back by the bar area. Did you check it out? If so, did you get any pictures of it?
They had a couple of framed platinum records, sculptures & masks on display. It was rather small, maybe 12 items or so. Cool to see some of the things from the videos in person. Also, the amount of detail in the opiate priest was amazing.
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The St.Paul Clinic was cool, but overall i would say it was not worth the price if you had done previous VIPs. It was almost the exact same experience. It was really cool seeing them play songs up close, and being able to have a few drinks this time as well though.
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The St.Paul Clinic was cool, but overall i would say it was not worth the price if you had done previous VIPs. It was almost the exact same experience. It was really cool seeing them play songs up close, and being able to have a few drinks this time as well though.
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