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04-20-2006, 09:29 AM
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If anyone were to put out a hoax album i would EXPECT it to be tool. I would do the exact same thing if i were them. Imagine how many people were diverted from trying to steal their real album by putting this fake one out. While i wholeheartedly agree that it takes alot of work to make a fake album, consider the fact that it's been 5 years. If you really listen to this album, to me at least, it doesn't seem like it would have taken 5 years to make. I believe it's a hoax. Although their are some nspired moments most of it is crap. How much more fun can a band have then to see all the posts from the "serious" fans theorizing on the contents of fake songs and straining their eardrums to figure out lyrics that are burried in a track? Good stuff Maynard.
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If anyone were to put out a hoax album i would EXPECT it to be tool. I would do the exact same thing if i were them. Imagine how many people were diverted from trying to steal their real album by putting this fake one out. While i wholeheartedly agree that it takes alot of work to make a fake album, consider the fact that it's been 5 years. If you really listen to this album, to me at least, it doesn't seem like it would have taken 5 years to make. I believe it's a hoax. Although their are some nspired moments most of it is crap. How much more fun can a band have then to see all the posts from the "serious" fans theorizing on the contents of fake songs and straining their eardrums to figure out lyrics that are burried in a track? Good stuff Maynard.
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Wow, I see this is a very mature fourm. Instead of mocking each other, why not initiate an actual debate? Is that too hard?
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Wow, I see this is a very mature fourm. Instead of mocking each other, why not initiate an actual debate? Is that too hard?
I think it is - but feel free to try and start one.
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Someone please tell me why they would want to release a hoax to stop people from stealing. the people who won't buy it STILL WOULDN'T BUY IT once it comes out cause it will be available as a torrent then. I just don't get why this would be worth it.
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Someone please tell me why they would want to release a hoax to stop people from stealing. the people who won't buy it STILL WOULDN'T BUY IT once it comes out cause it will be available as a torrent then. I just don't get why this would be worth it.
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Wow, I see this is a very mature fourm. Instead of mocking each other, why not initiate an actual debate? Is that too hard?
Welcome. It gets worse, dude =( I mean, man...
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Welcome. It gets worse, dude =( I mean, man...
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Wow, what an objective poll.

I suppose we're geeks for not blindly worshipping an album we think is mediocre. I don't care if Tool made it, it's not that good. At least not for them.
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Re: How many of you geeks still think it's a hoax?

Wow, what an objective poll.

I suppose we're geeks for not blindly worshipping an album we think is mediocre. I don't care if Tool made it, it's not that good. At least not for them.
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04-20-2006, 10:15 AM
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I didn't read all the posts, I just wanted to drop a quick note. I say I do b/c we all know Tool puts a lot of effort in to their music and I wouldn't put it passed them to make a decoy album.

Buit dont get me wrong I can see how it could be considered unreasonable to make a decoy.
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I didn't read all the posts, I just wanted to drop a quick note. I say I do b/c we all know Tool puts a lot of effort in to their music and I wouldn't put it passed them to make a decoy album.

Buit dont get me wrong I can see how it could be considered unreasonable to make a decoy.
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04-20-2006, 10:20 AM
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Make sure you post here if you vote for decoy so we can all laugh at you when the "real" album never comes out.
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Make sure you post here if you vote for decoy so we can all laugh at you when the "real" album never comes out.
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Make sure you post here if you vote for decoy so we can all laugh at you when the "real" album never comes out.
Good argument.
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Make sure you post here if you vote for decoy so we can all laugh at you when the "real" album never comes out.
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Wow, what an objective poll.

I suppose we're geeks for not blindly worshipping an album we think is mediocre. I don't care if Tool made it, it's not that good. At least not for them.
How is it not objective? It's a simple yes/no question.

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Wow, what an objective poll.

I suppose we're geeks for not blindly worshipping an album we think is mediocre. I don't care if Tool made it, it's not that good. At least not for them.
How is it not objective? It's a simple yes/no question.

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All this shitalk about a decoy album,really wants me to get a second album.
agreed.

i like the leaked album, but i definitely think it could of been better. and if we get another album, then great. two albums. sounds ok to me.

but, sadly, i think this might be the only one. oh well, its got some great stuff on it.
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All this shitalk about a decoy album,really wants me to get a second album.
agreed.

i like the leaked album, but i definitely think it could of been better. and if we get another album, then great. two albums. sounds ok to me.

but, sadly, i think this might be the only one. oh well, its got some great stuff on it.
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How is it not objective? It's a simple yes/no question.
Umm...well...because you call people geeks for thinking it's a hoax. So, by name-calling in the question you are asking, you are not making the question objective. This is very simple and should have been learned in middle school.
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How is it not objective? It's a simple yes/no question.
Umm...well...because you call people geeks for thinking it's a hoax. So, by name-calling in the question you are asking, you are not making the question objective. This is very simple and should have been learned in middle school.
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04-20-2006, 10:31 AM
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Getting two albums, or something like a 2 disc set, would be ridiculously cool.

Is it gonna happen? No, but that would still be the coolest surprise ever.
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Getting two albums, or something like a 2 disc set, would be ridiculously cool.

Is it gonna happen? No, but that would still be the coolest surprise ever.
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Umm...well...because you call people geeks for thinking it's a hoax. So, by name-calling in the question you are asking, you are not making the question objective. This is very simple and should have been learned in middle school.
How about you re-read it, smart guy. The subject line calls everyone a geek, and asks of said geeks their opinion on the whole hoax idea. Back to middle school for you.

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Umm...well...because you call people geeks for thinking it's a hoax. So, by name-calling in the question you are asking, you are not making the question objective. This is very simple and should have been learned in middle school.
How about you re-read it, smart guy. The subject line calls everyone a geek, and asks of said geeks their opinion on the whole hoax idea. Back to middle school for you.

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04-20-2006, 10:38 AM
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I don't have an opinion on it being a hoax or not but I'm truly hoping it is. I haven't heard good musicians be so boring since the last time I listened to Dream Theater.
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I don't have an opinion on it being a hoax or not but I'm truly hoping it is. I haven't heard good musicians be so boring since the last time I listened to Dream Theater.
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How about you re-read it, smart guy. The subject line calls everyone a geek, and asks of said geeks their opinion on the whole hoax idea. Back to middle school for you.
If that was what you meant, then I was wrong. The way you worded it makes it sound as if you're only calling those who support the hoax geeks.
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How about you re-read it, smart guy. The subject line calls everyone a geek, and asks of said geeks their opinion on the whole hoax idea. Back to middle school for you.
If that was what you meant, then I was wrong. The way you worded it makes it sound as if you're only calling those who support the hoax geeks.
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Nope, I addressed the whole forum and deliberately left the poll options as they are so as not to imply any level of geekiness if a particular choice was made. I was being careful about that. No worries.

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Nope, I addressed the whole forum and deliberately left the poll options as they are so as not to imply any level of geekiness if a particular choice was made. I was being careful about that. No worries.

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I don't.
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I don't.
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Me neither.
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Me neither.
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perhaps the band members should thank those individuals responsible for such pettifoggery (as someone’s grandfather once called it), saving them the time and energy of fabricating their own spurious album title and track listings (not to mention the expense of actually recording a decoy ‘Toolish’ album – which would be delightfully paradoxical and astoundingly foolish) just to thwart the best intentions of potential bootleggers.
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perhaps the band members should thank those individuals responsible for such pettifoggery (as someone’s grandfather once called it), saving them the time and energy of fabricating their own spurious album title and track listings (not to mention the expense of actually recording a decoy ‘Toolish’ album – which would be delightfully paradoxical and astoundingly foolish) just to thwart the best intentions of potential bootleggers.
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04-20-2006, 12:28 PM
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I dont think its a hoax....

If theres ever a time that I am wrong, I hope its about this.
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I dont think its a hoax....

If theres ever a time that I am wrong, I hope its about this.
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We didn't need a poll to figure out that one third of the users here are fucking idiots. It's actually a surprisingly low count.
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We didn't need a poll to figure out that one third of the users here are fucking idiots. It's actually a surprisingly low count.
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Is it possible that the track list is real but the music going around the internet now is fake?
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Is it possible that the track list is real but the music going around the internet now is fake?
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27.06% of the forum should stop thinking stupid
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61 to 161

This poll is a hoax.
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61 to 161

This poll is a hoax.
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Is it possible that the track list is real but the music going around the internet now is fake?
Anything is possible, I suppose. This, however, is not one of those times IMO.

Have you heard it?

I honestly can't understand how there are people who have heard this and not think it's the real deal.
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Is it possible that the track list is real but the music going around the internet now is fake?
Anything is possible, I suppose. This, however, is not one of those times IMO.

Have you heard it?

I honestly can't understand how there are people who have heard this and not think it's the real deal.
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This poll is a hoax.
(and so's this leak)
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. While i wholeheartedly agree that it takes alot of work to make a fake album, consider the fact that it's been 5 years. If you really listen to this album, to me at least, it doesn't seem like it would have taken 5 years to make. I believe it's a hoax.
Point of order, just because there were 5 years in-between albums, does not mean that the new album took 5 years to make. If that is your premise for believing it is a hoax, then you need to change your mind.
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. While i wholeheartedly agree that it takes alot of work to make a fake album, consider the fact that it's been 5 years. If you really listen to this album, to me at least, it doesn't seem like it would have taken 5 years to make. I believe it's a hoax.
Point of order, just because there were 5 years in-between albums, does not mean that the new album took 5 years to make. If that is your premise for believing it is a hoax, then you need to change your mind.
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I suppose though it's farfetched, this leaked album could be a hoax. It's godlike, but it seems like it could just as easily be some re-recorded b-sides or something. Either way, I will enjoy this coming May.
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I suppose though it's farfetched, this leaked album could be a hoax. It's godlike, but it seems like it could just as easily be some re-recorded b-sides or something. Either way, I will enjoy this coming May.
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I suppose though it's farfetched, this leaked album could be a hoax. It's godlike, but it seems like it could just as easily be some re-recorded b-sides or something. Either way, I will enjoy this coming May.
How can it be "godlike" and "re-recorded b-sides or something" at the same time? Colour me confused.
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I suppose though it's farfetched, this leaked album could be a hoax. It's godlike, but it seems like it could just as easily be some re-recorded b-sides or something. Either way, I will enjoy this coming May.
How can it be "godlike" and "re-recorded b-sides or something" at the same time? Colour me confused.
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Maybe he thinks the b-sides are that good, ya hoser.
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hands up who's a deluded little person for thinking this is a hoax?
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Re: How many of you geeks still think it's a hoax?

hands up who's a deluded little person for thinking this is a hoax?
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Maybe he thinks the b-sides are that good, ya hoser.
B-sides would suggest that the material was "left-over" or "secondary." Not my definition of "godlike."

Besides, I wasn't asking you so back off, cracker-jack.
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Old 04-20-2006, 02:47 PM   #72
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Maybe he thinks the b-sides are that good, ya hoser.
B-sides would suggest that the material was "left-over" or "secondary." Not my definition of "godlike."

Besides, I wasn't asking you so back off, cracker-jack.
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It could, or re-recording could have elevated its quality... but it's all subjective really anyway, isn't it?

Don't put it in a public forum if you don't want other people to comment on your post. Take off, eh.
Old 04-20-2006, 02:51 PM   #73
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Re: How many of you geeks still think it's a hoax?

It could, or re-recording could have elevated its quality... but it's all subjective really anyway, isn't it?

Don't put it in a public forum if you don't want other people to comment on your post. Take off, eh.
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04-20-2006, 02:52 PM
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I don't believe it's a hoax, although I definitely wish it were.
Old 04-20-2006, 02:52 PM   #74
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Re: How many of you geeks still think it's a hoax?

I don't believe it's a hoax, although I definitely wish it were.
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It probably wouldn't say much about Maynard if he wrote a song for his dead mother and put it on a B-Sides Album lol
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It probably wouldn't say much about Maynard if he wrote a song for his dead mother and put it on a B-Sides Album lol
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like ive said in other threads, theres no way wings for marie parts uno and dos, would be fake. maynard puts so much personal emotion into it, and would be dispicable if was in fact fake...and its definately about his mother...he says judith marie in the song...why do you people who think it is fake not think about this?
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Re: How many of you geeks still think it's a hoax?

like ive said in other threads, theres no way wings for marie parts uno and dos, would be fake. maynard puts so much personal emotion into it, and would be dispicable if was in fact fake...and its definately about his mother...he says judith marie in the song...why do you people who think it is fake not think about this?
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i can't believe over a quarter of you believe this is fake.....
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i can't believe over a quarter of you believe this is fake.....
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I have no idea how anyone with half a brain can still believe this ISN'T a hoax. That guy laughing in the corner on May 2nd will be me. And I'll be holding the real CD.
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I have no idea how anyone with half a brain can still believe this ISN'T a hoax. That guy laughing in the corner on May 2nd will be me. And I'll be holding the real CD.
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Don't put it in a public forum if you don't want other people to comment on your post. Take off, eh.
You missed the subtle facetious quality of my retort, Bob....or are you Doug?
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Old 04-20-2006, 03:02 PM   #79
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Re: How many of you geeks still think it's a hoax?

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Don't put it in a public forum if you don't want other people to comment on your post. Take off, eh.
You missed the subtle facetious quality of my retort, Bob....or are you Doug?
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like ive said in other threads, theres no way wings for marie parts uno and dos, would be fake. maynard puts so much personal emotion into it, and would be dispicable if was in fact fake...and its definately about his mother...he says judith marie in the song...why do you people who think it is fake not think about this?
Because we have no proof of the medical states of his mother and if any of the situations described to us by the people playing the joke is true.
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like ive said in other threads, theres no way wings for marie parts uno and dos, would be fake. maynard puts so much personal emotion into it, and would be dispicable if was in fact fake...and its definately about his mother...he says judith marie in the song...why do you people who think it is fake not think about this?
Because we have no proof of the medical states of his mother and if any of the situations described to us by the people playing the joke is true.
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