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04-25-2006, 11:43 PM

Alot of people assumed this was going to support 5.1 surround sound. Now that the album has been shipped around, has anyone found the answer to this?

I am sorry if this has already been discussed.
Old 04-25-2006, 11:43 PM   #1
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Question, 5.1?

Alot of people assumed this was going to support 5.1 surround sound. Now that the album has been shipped around, has anyone found the answer to this?

I am sorry if this has already been discussed.
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04-25-2006, 11:45 PM

No, actually it hasnt been answered yet. Someone asked it, but I guess the guy who "owns" the album went to sleep, or went to listen to it. I really would like to know the answer as well. (Being produced by SONY, I would imagine that it does support it... but thats generalization at its best.)
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Re: Question, 5.1?

No, actually it hasnt been answered yet. Someone asked it, but I guess the guy who "owns" the album went to sleep, or went to listen to it. I really would like to know the answer as well. (Being produced by SONY, I would imagine that it does support it... but thats generalization at its best.)
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04-26-2006, 02:05 AM

It's a CD. 700 megabytes. 76 minutes of 5.1 surround sound don't fit on a CD.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. 5.1 versions of albums are usually shipped as DVDs.
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Re: Question, 5.1?

It's a CD. 700 megabytes. 76 minutes of 5.1 surround sound don't fit on a CD.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. 5.1 versions of albums are usually shipped as DVDs.
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04-26-2006, 02:32 AM

Shit it is a sony album. That means that even if we do get a dualdisc, the stereo layer will be cd quality - no better, and the 5.1 will be dolby digital only. This fucking sucks. Sony should release HIGH RESOLUTION audio in the form of DVD-Audio on dualdiscs just like the rest of the world does.

That said - an SACD is possible, being sony. Also the blu ray format is out soon which may have a high res audio only spec and sony might re-release albums in this format.
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Re: Question, 5.1?

Shit it is a sony album. That means that even if we do get a dualdisc, the stereo layer will be cd quality - no better, and the 5.1 will be dolby digital only. This fucking sucks. Sony should release HIGH RESOLUTION audio in the form of DVD-Audio on dualdiscs just like the rest of the world does.

That said - an SACD is possible, being sony. Also the blu ray format is out soon which may have a high res audio only spec and sony might re-release albums in this format.
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04-26-2006, 04:14 AM

man, I'd love to hear Wings in SACD quality sound... pity I don't have ab SACD-capable player :(
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man, I'd love to hear Wings in SACD quality sound... pity I don't have ab SACD-capable player :(
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04-26-2006, 04:37 AM

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It's a CD. 700 megabytes. 76 minutes of 5.1 surround sound don't fit on a CD.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. 5.1 versions of albums are usually shipped as DVDs.
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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It's a CD. 700 megabytes. 76 minutes of 5.1 surround sound don't fit on a CD.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. 5.1 versions of albums are usually shipped as DVDs.
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04-26-2006, 05:07 AM

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Shit it is a sony album. That means that even if we do get a dualdisc, the stereo layer will be cd quality - no better, and the 5.1 will be dolby digital only. This fucking sucks. Sony should release HIGH RESOLUTION audio in the form of DVD-Audio on dualdiscs just like the rest of the world does.

That said - an SACD is possible, being sony. Also the blu ray format is out soon which may have a high res audio only spec and sony might re-release albums in this format.
The first thing I thought when I heard that Sony bought BMG was "Fuck, I guess we'll never get Tool on DVD-Audio now". I'm still holding onto a sliver of hope that they'll be able to use a different label to release some or all of their albums as DVD-A's.
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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Shit it is a sony album. That means that even if we do get a dualdisc, the stereo layer will be cd quality - no better, and the 5.1 will be dolby digital only. This fucking sucks. Sony should release HIGH RESOLUTION audio in the form of DVD-Audio on dualdiscs just like the rest of the world does.

That said - an SACD is possible, being sony. Also the blu ray format is out soon which may have a high res audio only spec and sony might re-release albums in this format.
The first thing I thought when I heard that Sony bought BMG was "Fuck, I guess we'll never get Tool on DVD-Audio now". I'm still holding onto a sliver of hope that they'll be able to use a different label to release some or all of their albums as DVD-A's.
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04-26-2006, 05:42 AM

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It's a CD. 700 megabytes. 76 minutes of 5.1 surround sound don't fit on a CD.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. 5.1 versions of albums are usually shipped as DVDs.
lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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It's a CD. 700 megabytes. 76 minutes of 5.1 surround sound don't fit on a CD.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. 5.1 versions of albums are usually shipped as DVDs.
lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
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04-26-2006, 05:45 AM

my cd player in my car has text enabled songs (shows the album name and song titles on my display of my cd player), the only ones i see doing it are sony albums (SOAD, AIC) so do you think this one might? any body have any idea what im talking about?
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Re: Question, 5.1?

my cd player in my car has text enabled songs (shows the album name and song titles on my display of my cd player), the only ones i see doing it are sony albums (SOAD, AIC) so do you think this one might? any body have any idea what im talking about?
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04-26-2006, 06:11 AM

got my copies today from work.

no SACD, no bonus DVD.

but you do get the best Tool album. and 3 dimensional band-member imagery.
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Re: Question, 5.1?

got my copies today from work.

no SACD, no bonus DVD.

but you do get the best Tool album. and 3 dimensional band-member imagery.
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04-26-2006, 06:18 AM

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
lateralus was released on hdcd.

hdcd uses a resolution of 20 bits instead of 16 to encode the audio information. this does not mean that hdcds have 5.1 sound.
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
lateralus was released on hdcd.

hdcd uses a resolution of 20 bits instead of 16 to encode the audio information. this does not mean that hdcds have 5.1 sound.
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04-26-2006, 06:22 AM

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
Lateralus isn't in 5.1...
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
Lateralus isn't in 5.1...
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04-26-2006, 07:03 AM

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
Here we have a prime example of yet another retard that plays STEREO music thru a 5.1 'surround' speaker setup. Hang your head in shame!
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1
Here we have a prime example of yet another retard that plays STEREO music thru a 5.1 'surround' speaker setup. Hang your head in shame!
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04-26-2006, 07:18 AM

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my cd player in my car has text enabled songs (shows the album name and song titles on my display of my cd player), the only ones i see doing it are sony albums (SOAD, AIC) so do you think this one might? any body have any idea what im talking about?

Yeah I know what you're talking about. Perhaps? Probably not though, since the Technology was there for Lateralus and they didn't do it then...
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my cd player in my car has text enabled songs (shows the album name and song titles on my display of my cd player), the only ones i see doing it are sony albums (SOAD, AIC) so do you think this one might? any body have any idea what im talking about?

Yeah I know what you're talking about. Perhaps? Probably not though, since the Technology was there for Lateralus and they didn't do it then...
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04-26-2006, 07:21 AM

HDCD comes through on all CD players, correct?
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Re: Question, 5.1?

HDCD comes through on all CD players, correct?
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04-26-2006, 08:15 AM

Well Withateetha was released in a dual cd format w/ 5.1. we can only hope the same.

And I enjoyed Withateetha!
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Well Withateetha was released in a dual cd format w/ 5.1. we can only hope the same.

And I enjoyed Withateetha!
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04-26-2006, 08:29 AM

stop calling [with teeth] withateetha, its fucking gay. with teeth. thats the album, no prissy ***got a's in there.

and there is a special edition coming out in a few weeks after the release in a special slip like lateralus came with... hopefully that might contain something more cos its more expensive then the plain cd, i pre ordered both here in aus already
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stop calling [with teeth] withateetha, its fucking gay. with teeth. thats the album, no prissy ***got a's in there.

and there is a special edition coming out in a few weeks after the release in a special slip like lateralus came with... hopefully that might contain something more cos its more expensive then the plain cd, i pre ordered both here in aus already
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04-26-2006, 08:39 AM

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1

i dont recall lateralus being in 5.1
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Re: Question, 5.1?

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lateralus was 78 minutes of 5.1

i dont recall lateralus being in 5.1
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stop calling [with teeth] withateetha, its fucking gay. with teeth. thats the album, no prissy ***got a's in there.

and there is a special edition coming out in a few weeks after the release in a special slip like lateralus came with... hopefully that might contain something more cos its more expensive then the plain cd, i pre ordered both here in aus already

where'd you hear about this? i didnt see it on the website?
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stop calling [with teeth] withateetha, its fucking gay. with teeth. thats the album, no prissy ***got a's in there.

and there is a special edition coming out in a few weeks after the release in a special slip like lateralus came with... hopefully that might contain something more cos its more expensive then the plain cd, i pre ordered both here in aus already

where'd you hear about this? i didnt see it on the website?
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04-26-2006, 08:53 AM

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where'd you hear about this? i didnt see it on the website?
the guy at my cd shop told me about it, he said he was getting a few from his supplier, he didnt know when they were arriving (but he did say he thought maybe a short time after the normal release), but he said there was definitely a special edition coming out and it was more expensive then the normal 10,000 days cd, so i preordered that along with the normal cd that comes out on the first day.... im hoping for a live dvd with it, or another bonus cd or something... that would rule. then i asked if i could get the album early, and he said no, cos tool are being absolute losers with all the legal crap they'd have put on you for selling it a day early or anything...

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where'd you hear about this? i didnt see it on the website?
the guy at my cd shop told me about it, he said he was getting a few from his supplier, he didnt know when they were arriving (but he did say he thought maybe a short time after the normal release), but he said there was definitely a special edition coming out and it was more expensive then the normal 10,000 days cd, so i preordered that along with the normal cd that comes out on the first day.... im hoping for a live dvd with it, or another bonus cd or something... that would rule. then i asked if i could get the album early, and he said no, cos tool are being absolute losers with all the legal crap they'd have put on you for selling it a day early or anything...

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the guy at my cd shop told me about it, he said he was getting a few from his supplier, he didnt know when they were arriving (but he did say he thought maybe a short time after the normal release), but he said there was definitely a special edition coming out and it was more expensive then the normal 10,000 days cd, so i preordered that along with the normal cd that comes out on the first day.... im hoping for a live dvd with it, or another bonus cd or something... that would rule. then i asked if i could get the album early, and he said no, cos tool are being absolute losers with all the legal crap they'd have put on you for selling it a day early or anything...

:) you meant With Teeth, right? Man, that sounds awesome. Or did you mean 10000 Days. Thats strange, I hadn't heard of either yet..
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the guy at my cd shop told me about it, he said he was getting a few from his supplier, he didnt know when they were arriving (but he did say he thought maybe a short time after the normal release), but he said there was definitely a special edition coming out and it was more expensive then the normal 10,000 days cd, so i preordered that along with the normal cd that comes out on the first day.... im hoping for a live dvd with it, or another bonus cd or something... that would rule. then i asked if i could get the album early, and he said no, cos tool are being absolute losers with all the legal crap they'd have put on you for selling it a day early or anything...

:) you meant With Teeth, right? Man, that sounds awesome. Or did you mean 10000 Days. Thats strange, I hadn't heard of either yet..
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04-26-2006, 11:17 AM

It's not in 5.1, I promise. But, hopefully later they will release a SACD or DVD-Audio, that would be great.
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It's not in 5.1, I promise. But, hopefully later they will release a SACD or DVD-Audio, that would be great.
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Here we have a prime example of yet another retard that plays STEREO music thru a 5.1 'surround' speaker setup. Hang your head in shame!
Dolby Pro Logic II does a hell of a good job giving stereo audio a surround like sound to it if you have your system setup decently.
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Here we have a prime example of yet another retard that plays STEREO music thru a 5.1 'surround' speaker setup. Hang your head in shame!
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