Well damn that's some reliable shit right there...you say whatever man and I'm a god willing believer.

see, the thing is i dont care if you believe me, nor do i feel the need to prove anything. it doesnt change the simple fact that you are wrong. most rabid tool fans are laughing if when they read this.

If you say so donut boy

i do, although some folks said it sounded like it could be possible.

The Pot is about hypocrites dumbass, not dickheads like myself. Try again.

lol, those are also the ones that dropped out of school during 3rd grade

EXACTLY

i did that. but i guess i could condense it for yas.

eyeballs deep in muddy waters - you are doing straight up blues standards and calling them your own, with no credit to the artist. muddy waters is a famous blues musician (sad i have to say that)

raised the dead - like, damn you are doing these songs word for word, dead musicians songs. brought them back to life through these rip offs.

rob the grave - steal from dead blues folk
to snow the cradle - dont give credit, thereby making kids who listen who have no idea about old blues think you wrote the songs from scratch. snow means bullshit.

then burn the evidence down - no credits to original songwriters on the albums.

soapbox house etc- you built this career out of ripping folks off, and now you are gonna sue people for ripping you off? hypocrite - the stones thing makes me think it could be about the stones too, but im not sure if they ever sued anyone for ripping them off so i doubt it. they ripped muddy waters off a lot more also, but i digress...

then theres the lemon juice thing etc.

thats about all i got

oh and page is not a vocalist.

Well, you've got quite the imagination...I'll at least give ya' that. I still don't think it has anything to do with this.

i am laughing. @ you.
pwned mutherfucker. :P

laughing at me or with me? im confused? dont tell me theres two people who actually think maynard didnt write the lyrics for apc. do you not own the album?

ok i went to wiki and looked it up and it appears that maybe im wrong? ok well im a dumbass and if so i am pned whatever that means. i still say wiki is wrong though. but if not, i apologize.

actually never mind, it says music and lyrics.

Fucking told your dumbass. And yes, I own all three of APC's albums.

PWNED, you should be banned from this site. I hope you hang your head in shame for at least 1 month

Well I hate when people swear up and down their word is gospel and telling me I'm wrong when I fucking know that I'm right....turns out they find out after all their moaning and bitching and talking about how people that hear what I say will laugh because I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about that THEY ARE FUCKING WRONG. If I'm not sure of something, I'm at least man enough to say I'm not sure but here's what I "think"....but if I fucking know I'm right then I'm fucking right if I tell you I'm right.

This is exactly Maynard felt when that dumb hooker with a penis called him a sellout or when he said fuck all you junkies and fuck your short memories or how the world is full of a million dumbfounded dipshits......well there ya' go.

*I feel a little better now*

Yeah but, I manage to stay away from homocide, I just vent and tell people straight up what's on my mind. In simpler terms for the dumbfucks out there scratching their heads, I can either be really nice or a complete dickhead. Then again, perhaps that's exactly what these forums needs, someone ta' smack 'em around a little bit and get them straight and on the right track. I don't know, I have no goal other than to exist amongst the mist.

.....I understand your point 'inner...'
But you gotta get a grip man.....control.

I've got a grip......but if it slips I just may dip beyond the dark eclipse and find bliss within the infinite abyss.

take that

Best typo ever.

if you don't know what PWNED means get off the internets. and do you know what "@" means?

haha get over yourself.

http://www.angelfire.com/weird/enana...merdenoms.html

"All lyrics by Maynard James Keenan, ASCAP"

im pissed you had me trying to prove it in the first place. now, kindly, kill yourself. and when yall get through sucking each others dick over proving someone wrong, maybe you can attempt to learn how to argue like grown folk.

and to stop you before you attempt to fuck with me about thirteenth step, the songs were credited to both of them as whole songs with no individual credit for lyrics or music. this is done for royalty reasons. look at the credit for tools songs also. im sure you would agree that maynard writes all the lyrics for tool. one publishing company. im sure you have no clue what a publishing company is, because you spend your time jocking artists lyrics instead of creating music on your own. game over, bitches.

moar -

http://media.www.nineronline.com/med...-2006084.shtml

Track 9, "The Nurse Who Loved Me" is the itch that you can't scratch on "Thirteenth Step."

"I do not think it is a coincidence that this song is the one song on the album that Maynard did not write the lyrics to."

"Billy Howerdel (composer and guitar), Maynard James Keenan (words and vocals)"

i hear crickets....

lol, oops

LOL, ok, so you found some retarded fan's website that doesn't know any better either.

Granted Maynard may have written a few songs as well, majority of them were already pre-written by Howerdel.

oh, and way to focus on that one post, and not the other ones after it which showed you to not know what the fuck you are talking about. typical...

ok let me ask you this - do you agree that billy wrote all of the music for mer de noms?

if so, then i ask you why is maynard listed as a writer on every single song, according to ascap? if you dont know what ascap is (which wouldnt surprise me at all) you should learn, but i can assure you, its not "some retarded fan's(sic) website."

but anyways, you are wrong. and i will not discuss the matter further. i do wonder where your pal orange is though, i guess he only likes to tell me i got "pwnt" but doesnt bother for you all.

/edit - http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?..._pp=30&start=1

the problem is, these dolts see the word "songwriter" and automatically assume it means writing the whole song including the lyrics. they dont understand that the term is most used to mean the person who wrote the music. lyricist is the technical term for the person who writes the words. sure, a songwriter can also write lyircs but they do not have to. and to address another misconception i see floating around here, maynard also helps write music (melodies especially) for tool.

Rivek is correct, even if he's wrong, he's right.

you have no fucking clue what youre talking about. the SONG was written, not the lyrics. i know its hard for you to wrap your feeble mind around the concept of what songwriting is, but try real hard to understand that when he says the song was written, he is talking about the music. i have proven beyond a doubt that maynard wrote the lyrics yet you insist on letting your idiocy prevail over the facts. talk about childish...

youre right about the fact that he is wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ_j-...eature=related

3:40

oh snap! now, kindly, throw yourselves down the next flight of stairs you see.

chirp chirp.

/not hanging my head in shame, being banned, or leaving any time soon!

id love to hear this demo.

i was baiting you, that orestes demo is from the judith single, and its the demo of the acoustic version which they played a few times live for radio winners. maynard wrote every single lyric for all a perfect circle original songs. and i will not insult your intelligence any longer. you can believe what you want, but the proof is what it is.