If your talking to me, I am hardly illiterate.

You made an ass-sumption in that I wrote that. It is actually copied from:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cozened

So next time keep your two cents to yourself and post something constructive towards the collective understanding of this song

happens a lot. if you want accuracy, please be unwilling to (i.e. "don't") check out their "official" lyrics at toolband.com. most of the difficult-to-decipher words are now out, however. i don't think many people even considered "cozened" - and i'm so glad it isn't "chosen" ('cause that threw me into a huge hole concerning my many/connected theories concerning this band and their audio/visuals.)

you lost me man, sorry.

anyway, has anyone considered that it might be a misuse (reuse?) of the word coze? like eat --> eaten, coze --> cozen...

weeping shades of cozened indigo

weeping shades, coze, and indigo

I think it sounds like he's singing: Weeping shades of indigo, Trapped within/without a reason, Weeping shades of indigo.
But I don't know...I guess it doesn't make any sense. But do to the fact that english is not my native tongue, I figured that maybe it could be correct. Like a figure of speech, or something.

Peace

i always thought it was hung the JUROR...

these are real. i'm a member of TA.

Ummm yes thank you. Since you are a member, we now know these are real.

Red alert people, if you are a member of TA, you know when lyrics are real, and moreover, when they are correct.

Great, how seriously you take this.

What do you mean? Where did Blair post anything?

i'd rather a TA member say, not only that "cozened fits" or "this is correct", but "here's why". the day i see ONE of 'em come here and tell me something of use, i'll throw down whatever to become a member (you get a t-shirt, too, right? heh).

i challange a TA memeber to lay some fuckin' insight already.

ready? GO!!!

Uhm, what did you want to say with that?

Can anyone please post a picture?

"The Pot" is still a shit name for a song.

No, simply no.

Cozen means to deceive...

Indigo is another word for the color BLUE

This line metaphorically refers to the government forcing a juror to tears for taking part in a kangaroo court to wrongfully convict someone... Therefore the juror is crying BLUE (Government) TEARS for taking part in setting someone up. The Goverment's DECEIT (Cozened) was exercised through the juror's actions.

The trial that serves as part of the inspiration for this song is that of Ed Rosenthal (http://www.green-aid.com/news.htm) thus the marijuana references. The song though delivers a message of "The POT" calling "The Kettle" BLACK succinctly becasue sighting all the facts of the case and how the government "played" this guy would take too long. The Pot is the government and all it’s resources (lawyers, jurors, etc.) & it is also marijuana which serves as the subject matter for the court battle. The Kettle is Ed and the rest of us who are at the mercy of the American “justice system” once in it's cross hairs.

Essentially the song is questioning the verdict in this case, the jurors for knowingly convicting an innocent defendant, calling the government out for doing what it did & sighting small references to all the other variables associated with this trial. The song is actually quite good and thought provoking, not unlike many titles in the TOOL library.

Indigo is purple, surely?

That's what I thought this song is about. "Trapped without a reason"

in·di·go [ índi g ]

From this link:
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861620926

noun (plural in·di·gos or in·di·goes)

Definition:

1. deep purplish blue color: a deep purplish blue color that lies between blue and violet on the visible spectrum


2. blue dye: a blue dye. Source: formerly from plants, but now usually made synthetically.


3. plant yielding indigo dye: a tropical plant of the pea family with fronds of pointed leaves and flowers, a source of indigo dye. Flowers: red or purple, in spikes. Genus Indigofera.

its both I guess... Still a good, thought provoking song. Hardly a shit name...

It's a shade of blue.

Well, it's not both, it's neither blue nor violet. Undermining entirely your point about it referring to tears.

(Edit: yes Terry, a shade of blue very close to purple, and nothing like tears.)

And yes, 'The Pot' has no spark of ingenuity or intrigue about it. Or, in other words, shit title.

GOD DAMN EVERYTIME I TRY TO DESCRIBE IT I FAIL AT ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

All I can say is that I think the title is excellent.

By the way, did anyone think about this? :

"oh and by the way isn't the "musta got lemon juice in your eye" part a contradiction to the weepin' shades interpretation? People said it is weepin' shades of indigo because of tears and they got tears from the lemon juice in the eye part, but if it's you MUSTA got lemon juice in your eye when you did this and that, then it's not the same as the weepin' shades thing"

in case anyone cares... songwriting is not "perfect". Artists are allowed certain freedoms when it comes to metaphors since they are the creators of the art... As in many cases with lyrics it's left up to the listeners interpretation. The title works for me, TOOL and the many of us who are apparently interested enough to keep posting about the song.

Did anyone read the info on that trial? What a CROCK! And we wonder why we're pissed at our "leaders" for frivilous wastes of time.

What has the title to do with the indigo thing?

What makes it brilliant, it is the name of the hypocrite, the pot (who's calling the kettle black). It's like "Judith". Just "The Pot". And at the same time it is a short form of the sentence.

BTW... I saw them last night in Cleveland, Ohio and they were phenominal. First time i've seen them and I was impressed by the bands power and stage presence. Their music is very powerful and maynard's presence on stage with his rythmic stances and no nonsense delivery of the songs is what it supposed to be like when you see a great band.

TOOL ROCKS!

What was he supposed to say? Now youre weeping tears of cozened... blue? Going to the trouble to dig the word "cozened" out only to follow it up with blue wouldve been disappointing. Indigo fits much better and it is "blue-ish"... therfore it fits my interpretation.

The title comments are in reference to other posts calling the title "shit". I think it's pretty witty.

I don't understand your problem with "musta". It makes perfect sense to me. He is weeping shades of bullshit blue. He must have got lemon juice in his eye to make him cry (forced tears).

The indigo has nothing to do with the title, they are two seperate grievances I have: one, that indigo has no connection to tears, and two, 'The Pot' is just, rubbish. It's like sculpting the Venus Di Milo to then go and call it "Fred". HE'S ALLOWED TO CALL IT FRED OMG BECAUSE HE MADE IT. Sure, he made it, then gave it a shit title.

Correct... Indigo has nothing to do with title.

What would you have called it given what it appears to be about?

Indigo. Blue. Sad. Tears.

Cozened. Bullshit.

Cozened indigo. Bullshit sadness. Crocodile tears.

Jimmeny, the song is about hipocrasy and people that are waving their fingers if they're guilty too. Pots that are saying that the kettle is black, even though they're black themselves. It's a story about the hypocrite.

I'm with ya. This appears to be a calling out of the jurors and others involved with the hypocrisy o the trial as some of the jurors after the conviction were moved to tears but how they felt didn’t stop them from convicting the guy. Of course, they were probably coerced into the verdict to begin with by having been deceived themselves. I may have poorly explained that aspect of the lyrics earlier.

I think the kangaroo court think might be all just metaphors.

And I'm also still not sure if these are the right lyrics. I'm hoping that Blair will soon clear this up, but the kiddo doesn't write anything about it.

Terry: I know what it's a story about, and I get all the metaphors the song displays (except for the indigo and tears theory, that doesn't wash at all, 'weepings tears of cozened indigo' seems to have a much deeper metaphor behind it). That doesn't mean a song title has to be the most obvious one. As a pair of words used to title a song 'The Pot' has no aesthetic beauty to me at all, nor is it a particularly clever title. It's lazy. To me.

Terry,

A kangaroo court is a 'judicial' proceeding that denies proper procedure in the name of expediency; a fraudulent or unjust trial where the decision has essentially been made in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either going through the motions of manipulated procedure or allowing no defence at all. This seems right on...

Read up on this trial and you may come to same conclusion as I have.

Yeah, I know, I read about the meaning just today. While I still think that the whole song is probably just straight forward about hypocrasy. And the court thing is just symbolic.

Could be... but.. there are the references to lawyers, a hung jury and someone being innocent. Without sighting names in the lyrics, which would remove the metaphorical power of the song, I think (don't know becasue I didn't write it) it is about that trial and hypocrisy in general, as hypocrisy in general is also related to the trial.

"New Age Philosophy

The color electric indigo is used to symbolically represent the sixth (Ajna) chakra, which is said to include the third eye."

and

"Ajna or the third eye is linked to the pineal gland."

Well then

"now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo. (musta) got lemon juice
up in your eye when you pissed all over my black kettle"

As I said, I thought the indigo would be a much cleverer reference than simply 'tears' (which doesn't work anyway). Cozened indigo perhaps implies, then, someone who is using a drug experience (yep, The Pot, but calling it 'The Pot' isn't very adventurous) to pretend they have a specific spiritual outlook on life, but they are really a hypocrit about it.

The tears are a metaphor, and he swings the metaphor back by saying the were brought on by lemon juice, which is a metaphor for bitterness. All speculation.

I just listened with headphones to the Coachella version and I'm pretty sure he says "reversing your shady inference".

in the missing lyric part at about 4:15 into the song?

No, in what the "official" lyrics say "refer, save your...".

The missing part is either "shed without a reason, shocked without a reason or trapped without a reason".