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Old 08-07-2006, 12:27 PM   #161
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Re: Setlist for Fall Tour

i just want like wings for marie 1 & 2 (glad theyll prob keep lateralus) and i would love to see Third Eye!! but yeah...i hope they make the set longer like some of their older tours (roughly 2 hours)
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

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I don't mean to be rude, but that's simplistic and ridiculous in my humble little mind.. that was Maynard's commentary on the official site as well, and I'm thinking "hmmm, he just spent nearly 15 years begging people to open their minds, and now he's coming at us with this bureaucratic idea concerning scalping.... breaking a complex situation down to a simple, narrow-sighted response aimed at calming all the little people down and evading well-warranted public agitation, which only exists because HE (Keenan) set the bar where it is, while ignoring the complexities, and indeed the real essence of the problem; effectively engaging in the same authoritarian mind-control bullshit he's been whining about all this time????!!!!?????" oh.
I dont disagree; I only contend that the simplest way to combat scalping yourself is to refuse to buy from scalpers. Let those seats sit fucking empty because scalpers or "brokers" cant sell their tickets, and I would like to optimistically think that those empty seats may be filled in by those most deserving, once the doors have closed and it's obvious that the pee. ^.-

Or,.......since we know which seats are going to be occupied by those buying tickets from scalpers, just throw annoying, but not necessarily life-threatening objects (for example, marbles) at them from all directions during the show. ^.^
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Re: Setlist for Fall Tour

All they have to do is add Wings, Reflection, and H (or Eulogy) and I'll be happy...

C'mon, do you guys actually think that the setlist will only be 1.5 hours? They HAVE to add at least another half an hour, don't you think?

But yeah, if they don't I'm going to be kinda pissed...
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jesus christ this shit just started, give it time songs will change
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Re: Setlist for Fall Tour

They haven't really started the fall tour yet.
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i'm hoping when isis joins them on the 22nd the "real" tour and setlist will start.
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

PLEASE CHANGE THE SETLIST. I love the singles, but enough is enough. I think everyone should e-mail blair about it - I already did.

More H, Third eye, Eulogy, and less singles will make me a happy man.
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

I don't think Blair has much say (try NONE) as to what ends up on the setlist. And for some reason... I'm not sure why (*sarcasm*)... I get the distinct impression that the band really doesn't give a shit what their fans want.

But I agree. How the FUCK can they justify raising ticket prices, while playing larger, shittier venues, and re-using the same generic setlist from the so-called "warmup tour"? Maybe the saddest thing is, they can probably get away with it, because there are so many new fans that just don't know what they missed "back in the day." They see this set and leave the show thinking they've just had the best experience of their lives, and can now die happy.
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

The setlists licks my nutsack. There is no excuse for last night: ZERO opening band, they still go on an hour late, charge up the ass for tickets, and play a warm-up tour setlists. Wow.
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Re: Setlist for Fall Tour

Saw this one coming all along. Trust me, the only additions we'll see would be Wings 1 & 2, and every now and then Opiate, Parabola, probably Intension at some point, but nothing like we saw on the Lateralus tour where the setlists would shift show to show drastically. Not counting on any sort of big stage production either.
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Re: Setlist for Fall Tour

Its funny, but this uproar wouldn't even exist prior to the internet. The only reason we know the shows are the same is because of easy setlist access on tdn and the information highway. I mean most fans can only afford, or get tickets to one gig. I wish I had the fortitude to not read the setlists after every show, but I don't. So even though I haven't seen the new songs played live, it won't be as exciting as if I was coming to the show without a clue as to what they were going to play.

For all I know, Led Zeppelin could have played pretty much the same setlist every night. But fans didn't have access to that information, so going to the show and being blindsided and surprised by each song made THAT particular show that much more special (in the mind of the fan, who didn't know any better...)

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Re: Setlist for Fall Tour

tool have been boring and stale with their choice of setlist since 2002.
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Its funny, but this uproar wouldn't even exist prior to the internet. The only reason we know the shows are the same is because of easy setlist access on tdn and the information highway. I mean most fans can only afford, or get tickets to one gig. I wish I had the fortitude to not read the setlists after every show, but I don't. So even though I haven't seen the new songs played live, it won't be as exciting as if I was coming to the show without a clue as to what they were going to play.

For all I know, Led Zeppelin could have played pretty much the same setlist every night. But fans didn't have access to that information, so going to the show and being blindsided and surprised by each song made THAT particular show that much more special (in the mind of the fan, who didn't know any better...)

Any way you can block me from accessing the live section?
i don't think it's the internet causing this. i honestly don't mind that they do a whole tour with almost the same setlist. it's just when it carries over from a "warm up" tour to the next tour it gets old. when i see them twice or 3 times on the same tour, i expect the show to be very similar, but i will be disappointed if when i see them next month in LA they play the same set that i saw at coachella and vegas on the supposed "warm up" tour.

there's an uproar because these recent shows, to us, are the start of the next tour and we know the setlists are the same. we wouldn't know without the internet, but we would find out when we see them again. we just get annoyed a little earlier now with the fast exchange of info.
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

I think they will change the setlist for the Arena tour. It has not started yet, so let's keep the panicking for later
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Good points.
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i'm hoping when isis joins them on the 22nd the "real" tour and setlist will start.
and the "real" album comes out...
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and the "real" album comes out...
haha..yea, this is a decoy tour....i get it now.
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Saw this one coming all along. Trust me, the only additions we'll see would be Wings 1 & 2, and every now and then Opiate, Parabola, probably Intension at some point, but nothing like we saw on the Lateralus tour where the setlists would shift show to show drastically. Not counting on any sort of big stage production either.
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So i have been hearing that the setlist has not changed since the warmup small venue tour back in late spring...is this true? I mean we all know hoe talented and how much they care about their music...that setlist was only an hour and a half and didnt even include wings for marie 1 & 2...i think i will be very dissapointed when i see them here in cleveland if the setlist hasnt changed.
Maynard has said he wont play Wings for Marie or 10,000 Days in concert unless its on the day she died
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Maynard has said he wont play Wings for Marie or 10,000 Days in concert unless its on the day she died
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Maynard has said he wont play Wings for Marie or 10,000 Days in concert unless its on the day she died
wow fuckin gay

didnt adam say that ''this was their best song yet''?
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I agree! I saw the Spring tour show here in Detroit. Where is more Opiate, UNDERTOW, Aenima? Where is Intolerance, Hooker With A Penis, Ticks & Leeches? This commercial friendly thing they have going on right now isn't all that cool. I mean the show in the Spring was great but where is the imagination? If I were in a big band like that I would make sure we would always do a deeper cut and blow the fans face off! at least 1! Give them something to talk about on the way home. I hope they change it as well. I already have tickets to the Palace Sept. 22 and can't wait but I am hoping for some change!

Is it just me or doesn't it seem like they put way more money and effort into the Lateralus Tour? at least to this point.
I hate to disappoint you, but your not going to get to see Ticks and Leeches on September 22nd because Tool has shows on the 23rd and 25th. The screaming in Ticks and Leeches would kill Maynard's voice for those shows.I do agree that they should be playing songs that only their hardcore fans know and suprise them with it...I wanna hear them play H. or Pushit or The Grudge when i go on October 7th

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link please?
read it from some other post on these boards that had a link
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or perhaps cause you're full of shit???
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What the hell are you talking about?
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His post is a big run-on sentence, and it make no sense.

Oh. Tool.
Its a fucking message board i didnt know i had to use proper grammar
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and have him substantiate his claim about maynard refusing to play wings or away with his noob-ishness.
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

Hm. I just assumed that any US shows at this time would be considered the Fall leg of the tour and should be different than the US minitour and the European summer tour. I mean, the Fresno show was in Selland ARENA. Then again, they didn't have an opening band. Hmm.

I guess we will see soon enough...
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Here we go again....the shrinking Tool setlist....last time it was 1hr 40min. Sorry but, somethings wrong with them. Oh well...its the nature of the biz. I remember when I saw the chili peppers headline a show where they played an awesome 1 hour set...Everyone was like WTF? A lot of bands do this now....changing setlists every night is not a very popular thing to do. Too bad.
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Well they should at least play for two hours considering this is the "real" tour and all...
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Pearl Jam rocked for like 3 hours when I saw them. Tool is fucking lame.
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That last Oceansize album you're advertising was lame.
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Re: Tour complaints -- brokers, scalping, etc. (merged)

To me the arena tour starts after their festival shows in Japan/Korea.

So, after they play Hawai, I guess we will know.

Anyone know is Isis opens in Hawai ?
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pearl jam is fucking lame. august 22nd is the day it will change. AMF is full of shit.
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Can you guys just relax on here. God its just a message board.
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Maynard has said he wont play Wings for Marie or 10,000 Days in concert unless its on the day she died
No I dont think Maynard said that. However it would be cool if they did play it on the day she died just becuase it would have an extra meaning to it. But then again would they have a concert that day?
Everyone is making a big deal about the setlists and these posts. I suggest that everyone just relax. Sit back and lets see what Tool has in store. Most likely the setlist will change in one way or another. No need to shout at each other on here. We are all here on this website to talk about Tool and there awesomeness (spelling? actually I dont think thats a word) so lets just chill out and do that. Not argue tooth and nail over a song (even if its a pretty damn good song).
Tool will most likely not play Ticks & Leeches because well Maynards over 40 now and a song like that would kill anyones voice. And they probably will add Wings and 10,000 days to the setlist and hopefully add a few more kick ass songs. But do you really think fighting like assholes on here is going to solve anything. No its just gunna piss those having the argument off and then they will get off the computer and forget all about it. Untill they come back on this website where the argument will resume. And no one will come out on top.
Once again everybody should just chill out and enjoy the awesomeness that is Tool.
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Yeah, once Isis hits the tour the setlist is sure to expand, even if it is only 2 hours...

And if it doesn't...well at least be happy that we actually get to see Tool. This might be their last time doing this... :(
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Isis's first show with TOOL will be in Vancouver on Aug. 22nd.
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you wanna see a long set go see RUSH. at one aerosmith show I saw they played for 3 hours as well. this set tool has going is fine they just need to add 2 songs to it and make it 2 hours. something like pushit, third eye, eulogy, intolerance. i mean come on whats an extra 15 minutes of their time anyways.
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the setlist for the fall arena tour will at least be 110 minutes.
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thanks for your prediction sns, the same guy who said there wasn't 2 sets on lateralus

if there is an intermission that = 2 sets

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