For anyone who feels the segues are mere practical jokes:

http://www.inkescape.blogspot.com

Dude, that's some of the best writings I've seen in a long time. Not that it is all necessarily all correct or false but, it's very well thought out and written and raises an eyebrow to many subleties I myself have overlooked in the past. You should write many more.

I agree with the Ascisco theory. Yesterday I synced it up with 10,000 Days and I was a little surprised (and why not, freaked out), that Ascisco came immediately after "I'm gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way, your way home ...". So, immediately after Maynard says she's on her way home, you can hear a voice from above claiming "Ascisco". "I ascend, to my home".

its all confusing

Um, sounds to me just like "This is good" (And God saw that it was good) which is also fairly close to the above

Maybe it's the words "Acids good" with the space between words cut out, there is a cut in the words if you listen. I dont think it matters what it really is, the fact that these interpretations exist and add way more meaning to the tracks then was ever put into them is awesome. Makes me wish i had a fanbase devoted to creative interpretations.

hey didnt Danny claim to have some PUP demon living in his lodge? It's trapped in this thing about his home kit I guess. Say's it gives him ideas for structures of rhythm. Here's a far out idea but hey maybe the lil bugger is giving out vocal advice as well!

I'm surprised to see that so many don't believe there is signficance to be found in this track.

Even tracks like Die Eier Von Satan are telling us something, even if the message isn't direct.

Tool is a serious project. All of it's members can exert themselves creatively in other ways, and I don't believe they're "just having fun" when they get together to make an album. They have a message to share, and they havean intention that cannot be denied.

I agree that they don't want the sweetest fruits of their labor to be obvious, to be picked quickly. But there is nothing readily intelligable about Viginti Tres, and seems unfair to accept it at face value as nothing more than an ambient, creepy track to wrap up 10,000 days.

Remember, this is a voice, and so immediately becomes less abstract. It is at least one word with a definite meaning.

I have no concrete answers, but I agree with Ascisco. It makes the most sense contextually, and if we can agree that this is this voice of God (per Tool), then I wouldn't count on the words being English.

Part of Tool's beauty is rediscovering more ways to percieve their art, and given their history, anything submitted by them to the world should be seen as inspired until proven arbitrary.

Of course, because Tool has no sense of humor and everything they do is deliberate and with impeccable seriousness.

Ever listened to Maynard's Dick, Hooker With A Penis?? Of course if you're into finding the underlying meaning behind the almighty cock then have at it.

On the other side, I know what you're saying but all I'm saying is some things Tool does is just meant at a face value without the layered hidden messages.

"lay off the acid dickhead, no puzzles here"

QFT.

Didn't Bill Hicks mention "there will be dickjokes later on", when he got too far into the serious subjects? Maybe Tool does so by making dicksongs, LOL

So whenever there are sexual organs mentioned in a Tool song, there's no hidden message in it. Same goes for the whole Puscifer catalogue.

I wouldn't say that at all, at least concerning "Stinkfist". I mean, there's a definite message underneath those lyrics.

I did forget about Maynard's Dick, but even still I feel it falls into a different category. You wouldn't hear that at the end of a studio album.

We're talking about a band that writes albums, not necessarily songs. And the whole thing is inspired and particular. To call any part of them meaningless casts a shadow of doubt over the whole album. We draw messages from the instrumental aspects because we understand the intentions behind them.

What I mean to say is, to disqualify Viginti Tres as an inspired, deliberate track is foolish, given their reputation and discography. They have something to say!

Yeah but there's also a big difference between saying they're meaningless or saying that there's some super secret underlying message that you must envision with your thrid eye while playing the lateralus vinyl backwords at 23rpm in while the temperature drops 4 degrees.

...all I'm saying is that some are to be taken at face value while others may have some multi-layered meanings but when you try to make the music into the Holy Grail you've gone too far. Trust me, I do appreciate Tool and their music to the highest degree. I think Lateralus was a masterpiece the way they integrated the fibonacci sequence into it and how they imbed Freemason-esque hidden easter eggs in their music, art and lyrics. But that's all it is, they each have their own personal curiousities and interests that they throw into the mix. With the occult references, aliens, religion, the third eye, etc. It doesn't make them gods by all means, they're just clever fuckers that leave us fans interested to know more and read into what they're displaying because they do make it somewhat subliminal and not just in black and white. It's simple as that, appreciate it for what it is and put away your Crackerjack box decoder ring.

Well said.

I know

Now that was narcistic, wasn't it?

...or just confidence...I don't think I am...just a smartass, one who's narcistic acts like it but really means it

I think we're on the same page.

Who's on what page with you?

You. I just mean to say that I think we agree with one another, even though we're sort of arguing. At least as far as Viginti Tres is concerned, there is something to be gleaned.

Right?

Ok, I just wasn't sure what you were referring to by the comment **shrug**

Many seem to be in agreement that "ascisco " (which does make perfect sense to me) may be the "hidden lyric". However, my interpretation is this:

Judith Marie has ascended, and it is the voice of God saying "MY SISTER"...welcoming her home.

Now this is what I hear without slowing or speeding up the recording, or doctoring it up with an audio editor, just good ol' fashioned headphones.

I'm probably wrong, but after listening to the long and mostly sad story told in the 3 parts of "Wings", it's rather conforting to picture the journey having a somewhat happy ending.

I'm not going to make any real argument about the validity of the ascisco argument itself, but I will say that the Latin scholar earlier made a crucial mistake: yes, in *classical* Latin ascisco would be pronounced "ahss-keess-koe" and viginti tres would be pronounced "wi-ghen-tee traess," in *ecclesiastical* Latin (shorthand amongst Latin scholars to refer to Latin as it is used since the 20th century largely by scholars from the Roman Catholic Church and a few other protestant groups), ascisco would be pronounced "ah-shee-schoe," and viginti tres would be pronounced "vi-jen-tee traes."

ok you might think this is stupid but
jambi is the name of the genie on pee wees play house when genies grant wishes they usually say a magic word what is said in viginte tres is that magic word the pot is jambi's lamp maynard made a wish WANT TO WISH IT ALL AWAY and he will know WHEN TO LET YOU OUT

The asisco argument is definetely as wrong as the "my sister" argument.
I found out some things but the mods in this forum haven't approved my posting yet. Apparently they have to approve it because there is a link in my posting.

In the posting I came to this conclusion:
- The voice doesn't speak "asisco" (I'll post the disprove when I'm allowed to do so) but several sounds with vowels in it.
- The sequence said by the voice is repeated over the whole song but at very very different speeds and different pitch.
- At its normal speed the voice doesn't sound human. Especially the intonation is not how humans speak. It sounds like alien voice.
- Maybe the spoken sounds are Enochian?

Wow... an almost decade old forum trail. Awesome. I like what you a throwing down 11235; it does sound inhuman. It sounds almost like an EVP, as others have said. Don't know, won't know. God damn, shit the bed.

The main riff to Lateralus is the intro to X-Files. They just 're-tooled it.'
If it is, "the sister," then it is a reference to Fox Mulder's sister who was taken by ETs.

If it isn't the sister, it's a computerized anagram of some kind with layered syllables and letters. Solve it... nahh.

I just wanted to let you know...
I figured it out...
Mwahahahhahahahhahaha
It is not a 'Human' voice. But this is a hint as to what language it is ;)