Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by Rivek
No, it's the exact same style rehashed, which is exactly my point.
Learn to read.
Any riff or notes that can be paralleled to previous work from tool is overly obvious and intentional.
The only person who would call this type of interconnectivity between musical themes "rehashed" is a pretentious moron. A pretentious moron who's excited that for the first time he can hear third eye while listening to rosetta and wants to smear it on his ego. Dig a little deeper fuck head
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
it will probably be released in mid 2008m hopefully. i dont know if its going to be animated or just regular. maybe they come up with a whole new idea...
btw, all the talk about jambi being the 3rd single. is that true?
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by Rivek
Get over yourself. They could have expanded but instead they stuck to the same old tired riffs instead of continuing to evolve like they had been. Unless you were in the studio, you don't know shit about whether it was intentional or not.
Tool are not gods, dickhead.
Or, you know, half the people who listened to the album and realized that Adam is playing the same altered pentatonic scale he's been using since H., on songs that don't even connect to each others' meaning.
This doesn't even make sense.
You, sir, are an embarassment to the community.
Music is about emotion buddy not trivial guitar techniques.
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Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by Once we were kings
it will probably be released in mid 2008m hopefully. i dont know if its going to be animated or just regular. maybe they come up with a whole new idea...
btw, all the talk about jambi being the 3rd single. is that true?
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
It sounds to me like all you want to do is bitch about something you don't know jack shit about. Why don't you pick up a guitar and play some of these songs that you say are rehashed and then play the song that you think they are being rearranged from.
Or better yet why don't you show me a riff that is from an older song.
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by Rivek
Get over yourself. They could have expanded but instead they stuck to the same old tired riffs instead of continuing to evolve like they had been. Unless you were in the studio, you don't know shit about whether it was intentional or not.
Tool are not gods, dickhead.
Or, you know, half the people who listened to the album and realized that Adam is playing the same altered pentatonic scale he's been using since H., on songs that don't even connect to each others' meaning.
This doesn't even make sense.
You, sir, are an embarassment to the community.
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Agree with you, but still think it's a good album. Haven't listened to any other more often, and there was certainly a period of three of four listens when I was thinking, "WOW, what an album." And to an extent, that's still true. Of their whole catalog, this definately offers the most detail, and is most deserving of a 5.1 mix. That being said, I always get the feeling, when listening, that they're overplaying just about every song, particularly when I go back and listen to Lateralus, where their playing at times (especially Danny) is so delightfully "anti-rock". By contrast, "bloated" is often the word that comes to mind when I listen to 10,000 days. This feeling is at its greatest extreme during the last 1-2 mins of Rosetta Stoned, drawing a sharp contrast to "Intension", probably the strongest track on the album. So, in a sense, the album's greatest strength (its richness) also happens to be its greatest weakness. Which explains why the band feels this is their strongest effort musically and the fans appear to be so divided on it.
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Originally Posted by abrown
Or better yet why don't you show me a riff that is from an older song.
I agree, I think people hear an underlying theme to Adams style. But as a musician that does play a lot of tool, each song really has its own "fingerprint". Adam is very creative with his style, along with the rest of them for that matter.
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Who the fuck knows what they'll do, but one things for sure, what ever is released they know we will go run out and buy as soon as we got the money to do so. They got us wrapped around there fingers, but i love it! Can't get enough of it, like a fuckin drug!
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by Rivek
Okay: opening of Vicarious directly quotes the main riff of the first few verses of H. Same notes, same direction for the call of each phrase.
Aer you fucking kidding me? Not even close. For someone who claims that they can play all the Tool songs except for Third Eye you just made yourself look like a total moron. Different notes, different rythm, different tempo.
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i think they really need to step it up for the next album. They seem to be in a comfort zone as far as the music goes - still good songs but they are looking back instead of pushing forward IMO.
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hey Rivek, there are only 12 notes that we can hear (excluding the "out of tune" ones in between and octaves) period. So Adam using a D5 chord over a Db or D altered dominat or whatever being an issue for you is silly becuase he does so much with it, the feeling is different for each song and it is placed differently in each song, so he is being creative. Third Eye in RS makes sense being they are both about psychedelics and anyway it sounds different. I think that for him to play the same riff and it sound fresh is pretty creative. However, I do agree that 10k Days is no lateralus but still and amazing work and I think Alex Grey likes it too(going on the Vicarious documentary) so there. Hate me if you want.
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by Rivek
He disappointed pretty fucking hard by agreeing to those Schism and Parabola DVD singles
And with his playing on 10000 Days, aka "Tool, the first 10 years rearranged"
Ummm.... I don't know if you're a geetar player.... But I am.
AJ uses a similar structure in alot of TOOL stuff, I guess. Opiate/Undertow are, as far as the geetar goes, very similar. I kinda wonder if some of the 10,000 Days material is older stuff that they finally got around to... Or maybe not. Point is, most, if not all, geetar players have a style. T00L has also only released 5 ALBUMS. Not many compared to other bands. Seeing as they are still selling out shows and cd stores, I say that if the formula ain't broke, don't fix it. I think AJ is a unique player and I enjoy the dynamic he brings to the band.
Doesn't really matter. T00L has yet to release a cd that disappoints me. And how so Vicarious and Jambi and Wings For Marie 1&2 AND Right in Two sound like re-hashed T00L? I am curious...
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
There are some Tool videos that grab more attention than others, but all of their videos are creative and have had numerous hours of work and dedication put into them. I'm not sure Tool cares about how impressed their fans are by the video, but I do think they care about how well the video represents the music.
Re: So when can we expect the "The Pot" DVD Video Single?
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Originally Posted by StoneyB
There are some Tool videos that grab more attention than others, but all of their videos are creative and have had numerous hours of work and dedication put into them. I'm not sure Tool cares about how impressed their fans are by the video, but I do think they care about how well the video represents the music.
I think you’re wrong. I mean Tool does care if there fans like their videos. After all it’s our money they want. Just because there music and videos are a breath of fresh air compared to most of the other shit spewed out by the record company doesn’t mean they don’t love making money from it.
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That's a good point, otherwise why would they be selling their videos individually. I do think they put a lot of thought into their videos though, and as the forum goes to show, they will never be able to please everybody.
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Originally Posted by fnshmetal
Lateralus didn't need a video. Your brain makes its own.
That is exactly what made Lateralus an Epic. The flow was unbeleivable... Forever my favorite album of all time.
I cant remember where i saw it, or heard it, or even if im making it up my my own head... but i think "wings for marie/10,000 days" was maybe going to be a single (obviously not radio friendly) but probably for video purposes... regardless... im completely excited another 10,000 days video, Vicarious caught me off gaurd at first, but now i think i really understand where thier taking themselves. So now im just excited to see a flow in this albums videos... (schism and parabola styles matched, sober and prison sex did as well)
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Id just like a full album movies/music video(kinda pink floydish but different)...theres nothing like having the visuals to enhance the music...im not saying that the music isnt just as good by itself, but if your with a group of people the visuals help the "others" get "it".