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04-20-2006, 04:37 AM
To me this seems to be in reference to the way certain drugs pass through unchartered areas of the brain by mimicing the necessary key for the opposing locked synapse. This is how LSD (for eg) produces feelings and visions by unlocking these areas of the brain normally dormant
'The existence of such receptor cells had been suggested in 1972 by Stanford University psychopharmacologist Avram Goldstein and verified in 1973 by John Hopkins University researchers Solomon Snyder and Candace Pert. Goldstein, who hypothesized that the brain must contain receptor sites of some type for opiate narcotics for the drugs to exert any effect at all in the brain and central nervous system, even provided a handy analogy to describe the system he envisioned. "The places in the brain cells where morphine and similar molecules combine," he said, "must be shaped to accommodate the morphine exactly as a lock accommodates a particular key'
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Meaning of lost keys
To me this seems to be in reference to the way certain drugs pass through unchartered areas of the brain by mimicing the necessary key for the opposing locked synapse. This is how LSD (for eg) produces feelings and visions by unlocking these areas of the brain normally dormant
'The existence of such receptor cells had been suggested in 1972 by Stanford University psychopharmacologist Avram Goldstein and verified in 1973 by John Hopkins University researchers Solomon Snyder and Candace Pert. Goldstein, who hypothesized that the brain must contain receptor sites of some type for opiate narcotics for the drugs to exert any effect at all in the brain and central nervous system, even provided a handy analogy to describe the system he envisioned. "The places in the brain cells where morphine and similar molecules combine," he said, "must be shaped to accommodate the morphine exactly as a lock accommodates a particular key'
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04-20-2006, 06:08 AM
It's definitely possible. The song is connected with Rosetta Stoned, obviously. So, you can guess similar subject matter.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
It's definitely possible. The song is connected with Rosetta Stoned, obviously. So, you can guess similar subject matter.
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04-20-2006, 07:23 AM
dude... those 'locked receptors' are the type 2 seratonin sub-receptors... morphine hits various mu receptors within the endorphine system, dopamine is hit by phenethylamines, and it is the tryptamines that hit the seratonin system... im overgeneralizing here, but that's the general overview. Pyschedellics are the reason that we know about seratonin in the first place, btw...
and, from listening to this and hearing the conversation going on, sounds like somone got brought in to the hospital while having either a serious psychotic break or some sort of intense drug experience... nothing is physically wrong, and then it goes in to rosetta stoned where he talks to the doc manically, and describes his trip where he meets aliens and is told that he is the chosen one, etc etc...
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
dude... those 'locked receptors' are the type 2 seratonin sub-receptors... morphine hits various mu receptors within the endorphine system, dopamine is hit by phenethylamines, and it is the tryptamines that hit the seratonin system... im overgeneralizing here, but that's the general overview. Pyschedellics are the reason that we know about seratonin in the first place, btw...
and, from listening to this and hearing the conversation going on, sounds like somone got brought in to the hospital while having either a serious psychotic break or some sort of intense drug experience... nothing is physically wrong, and then it goes in to rosetta stoned where he talks to the doc manically, and describes his trip where he meets aliens and is told that he is the chosen one, etc etc...
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04-20-2006, 01:46 PM
Lost Keys must be in reference to those locked receptors. Good thinking.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
Lost Keys must be in reference to those locked receptors. Good thinking.
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04-20-2006, 01:59 PM
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and, from listening to this and hearing the conversation going on, sounds like somone got brought in to the hospital while having either a serious psychotic break or some sort of intense drug experience... nothing is physically wrong, and then it goes in to rosetta stoned where he talks to the doc manically, and describes his trip where he meets aliens and is told that he is the chosen one, etc etc...
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Could also be connnected to this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089...Fencoding=UTF8
Read some of the overview from reviewers. Seems to fit very well.
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I think this song is about old people and growing older. In the beginning of the song I believe I heard mention of watching re-runs of X-files, and old people really love that show.No one ever listens to old people. I can't remember one time when they weren't harping on about the good ol' days and talking about nonsensical things that never happened, while watching X-files, in their small and cluttered room in Happy Acres Retirement Homes, all the while they were pleading with me to listen.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
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and, from listening to this and hearing the conversation going on, sounds like somone got brought in to the hospital while having either a serious psychotic break or some sort of intense drug experience... nothing is physically wrong, and then it goes in to rosetta stoned where he talks to the doc manically, and describes his trip where he meets aliens and is told that he is the chosen one, etc etc...
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Could also be connnected to this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089...Fencoding=UTF8
Read some of the overview from reviewers. Seems to fit very well.
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I think this song is about old people and growing older. In the beginning of the song I believe I heard mention of watching re-runs of X-files, and old people really love that show.No one ever listens to old people. I can't remember one time when they weren't harping on about the good ol' days and talking about nonsensical things that never happened, while watching X-files, in their small and cluttered room in Happy Acres Retirement Homes, all the while they were pleading with me to listen.
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phenomenal book
i recommend it
read it last year
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04-26-2006, 09:22 AM
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
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phenomenal book
i recommend it
read it last year
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Yeah, that book is amazing.
I own it and would recommend it to anyone looking for answers to all questions. Dr. Strassman does an excellent job of giving an unbiased account of what IV DMT actually does to Humans.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
Yeah, that book is amazing.
I own it and would recommend it to anyone looking for answers to all questions. Dr. Strassman does an excellent job of giving an unbiased account of what IV DMT actually does to Humans.
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04-29-2006, 06:23 PM
Probably not connected at all, but on the note of solomon I came across this: A new theory about what was actually the Seal of Solomon is to be found in a book "Le Sceau de Salomon, secret perdu de la Bible" (The Seal of Solomon, lost key of the Holy Bible, french language) by Janik Pilet. According to him, it was a source for holy inspiration used by several authors of the Old and New Testaments, and its drawing is described in the first text in the Holy Bible i.e. the creation in six days.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
Probably not connected at all, but on the note of solomon I came across this: A new theory about what was actually the Seal of Solomon is to be found in a book "Le Sceau de Salomon, secret perdu de la Bible" (The Seal of Solomon, lost key of the Holy Bible, french language) by Janik Pilet. According to him, it was a source for holy inspiration used by several authors of the Old and New Testaments, and its drawing is described in the first text in the Holy Bible i.e. the creation in six days.
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I'm pretty sure lost keys is a metaphor for what the guy is feeling in Rossetta stoned. This is just like the introduction to that story...
04-29-2006, 08:28 PM
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
I'm pretty sure lost keys is a metaphor for what the guy is feeling in Rossetta stoned. This is just like the introduction to that story...
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04-30-2006, 02:28 AM
i think the idea that this track is about acid is further backed up by "(blame hoffman)"
which i'm pretty sure is refering to Albert Hofmann, known as the father of LSD (thank you wikipedia :P).
I think this title possesses quite light hearted humour.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
i think the idea that this track is about acid is further backed up by "(blame hoffman)"
which i'm pretty sure is refering to Albert Hofmann, known as the father of LSD (thank you wikipedia :P).
I think this title possesses quite light hearted humour.
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well it's either or Phillip Seymour Hoffman.......
I don't think this song is really about anything, except to intro Rosetta, which is fine caust it's a neat little transfer.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
well it's either or Phillip Seymour Hoffman.......
I don't think this song is really about anything, except to intro Rosetta, which is fine caust it's a neat little transfer.
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05-07-2006, 10:43 AM
...or they ate acid and someone lost their keys and it's hofmann's fault cuz he invented it?? maybe it's as simple as that :)
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
...or they ate acid and someone lost their keys and it's hofmann's fault cuz he invented it?? maybe it's as simple as that :)
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losing your keys is an analogy for losing your mind. in parantheses is blame hoffmann, because he is the inventor of lsd. and obviously the person in the skit has lost their mind by doing lsd.
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
losing your keys is an analogy for losing your mind. in parantheses is blame hoffmann, because he is the inventor of lsd. and obviously the person in the skit has lost their mind by doing lsd.
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When I first heard this I thought it was at first saying he was posessed by a demon or somthing of the such. The hard demondic breathing of the patient gave me that idea and the tone of the over all sound nad atmosphere of the song. But then when i found out about the (Blame Hoffman) part it seemed to point more to the kid losing his mind doing LSD. I still always find the demon part interesting though... and eerie at the same time. ::shudders::
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Re: Meaning of lost keys
When I first heard this I thought it was at first saying he was posessed by a demon or somthing of the such. The hard demondic breathing of the patient gave me that idea and the tone of the over all sound nad atmosphere of the song. But then when i found out about the (Blame Hoffman) part it seemed to point more to the kid losing his mind doing LSD. I still always find the demon part interesting though... and eerie at the same time. ::shudders::
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