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im listening to the CD right now. the quality of the sound is FAR FAR superior compared to the leaked version. if you cant hear that, you DEFINITELY need a better sound system or headphones. that being said, the drumming is quite prevalent on the album... the difference is that adam is taking a much more agressive and 'lead' type of role, and that gives the impression that danny has been moved in to the background when it, to me, actually seems like they have SERIOUSLY integrated their respective parts to a level that they have never achieved. they are so well balanced that you have to concentrate to be able to notice anything in particular. at first the guitar seems to be overbearing, but after a couple listens of getting used to this new sound, it falls in to place as a more balanced sound that doesnt push the guitar out of the ear in favor of over-reliance on the drums. but that's just my opinion.
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im listening to the CD right now. the quality of the sound is FAR FAR superior compared to the leaked version. if you cant hear that, you DEFINITELY need a better sound system or headphones. that being said, the drumming is quite prevalent on the album... the difference is that adam is taking a much more agressive and 'lead' type of role, and that gives the impression that danny has been moved in to the background when it, to me, actually seems like they have SERIOUSLY integrated their respective parts to a level that they have never achieved. they are so well balanced that you have to concentrate to be able to notice anything in particular. at first the guitar seems to be overbearing, but after a couple listens of getting used to this new sound, it falls in to place as a more balanced sound that doesnt push the guitar out of the ear in favor of over-reliance on the drums. but that's just my opinion.
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my favorite line is in "viginty tres" where maynard shouts "use EDIT instead of TRIPLE POSTING"
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my favorite line is in "viginty tres" where maynard shouts "use EDIT instead of TRIPLE POSTING"
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my favorite line is in "viginty tres" where maynard shouts "use EDIT instead of TRIPLE POSTING"
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Much of 10000 Days sounds like a guitar training session, the riffs are mixed WAY too loud over the drum (beat).
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Funny thing you say that! I just pumped $200 into UE Super.fi 5 Pro Canal-phones (after my dog ate my Shure E2Cs) and expected to really break them in with this album. After listening to half the album I was extremely upset with my purchase. I thought the crossover in the phones threw off the lower-mids, thus cancelling out some of the drums. I then put on Lateralus and a few APC songs to find that it wasn't my earphones at all, but the mixing of the album itself.
If not only to be dissapointed that the drums are mixed too low, the vocals are mixed equally low! MJK's voice is crystal clear in every other Tool album, even on the songs where they are instrument driven - ie. Ticks and Leeches. I'm sure when they play the songs live it'll be a totally different dynamic, but for an album that's set in stone the levels on this album are extremely dissapointing. I'd almost go so far as to say it sounds like an excellent bootleg!
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Much of 10000 Days sounds like a guitar training session, the riffs are mixed WAY too loud over the drum (beat).
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If not only to be dissapointed that the drums are mixed too low, the vocals are mixed equally low! MJK's voice is crystal clear in every other Tool album, even on the songs where they are instrument driven - ie. Ticks and Leeches. I'm sure when they play the songs live it'll be a totally different dynamic, but for an album that's set in stone the levels on this album are extremely dissapointing. I'd almost go so far as to say it sounds like an excellent bootleg! |
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I think some people DL'd a shitty leak. There were different versions on bit-torrent. The good ones are near identical to the CD. I don't mind the mix on 10k days, maybe prefer Lat, but I just prefer Lateralus in general. I love 10k, but.. yeah.
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I think some people DL'd a shitty leak. There were different versions on bit-torrent. The good ones are near identical to the CD. I don't mind the mix on 10k days, maybe prefer Lat, but I just prefer Lateralus in general. I love 10k, but.. yeah.
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Woah.. steady on.. the drums are awesome enough..
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I am not the first with this complaint; some of the heavier ( drumming ) sections have slight amounts of distortion. Its really annoying especially when the album is otherwise impecably recorded and arranged.
Music aside, I am still partial to the recording and compression of AEnima.
Yeah, i only listen to music to appreciate the recording quality.
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I am not the first with this complaint; some of the heavier ( drumming ) sections have slight amounts of distortion. Its really annoying especially when the album is otherwise impecably recorded and arranged.
Music aside, I am still partial to the recording and compression of AEnima.
Yeah, i only listen to music to appreciate the recording quality.
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I do agree somewhat. I only really noticed this on the climax to Vicarious, where I heard considerable popping and distortion, and I think at one other point in the disc -- where exactly, I forgot. It might have to do with the capabilities of your speakers, too. Because I noticed it more in my car. On my home system, which not to brag is actually very good, I didn't hear them at all.
I really wish they would have released this on SACD or DVD audio, though, because the disc sounds a bit like it doesn't jump out as much as Lateralus' more colorful moments did. Maybe they still will, because it would probably eliminate any compression artifacts.
The CD though, still sounds impeccable, though for the most part.
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I do agree somewhat. I only really noticed this on the climax to Vicarious, where I heard considerable popping and distortion, and I think at one other point in the disc -- where exactly, I forgot. It might have to do with the capabilities of your speakers, too. Because I noticed it more in my car. On my home system, which not to brag is actually very good, I didn't hear them at all.
I really wish they would have released this on SACD or DVD audio, though, because the disc sounds a bit like it doesn't jump out as much as Lateralus' more colorful moments did. Maybe they still will, because it would probably eliminate any compression artifacts.
The CD though, still sounds impeccable, though for the most part.
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I do agree somewhat. I only really noticed this on the climax to Vicarious, where I heard considerable popping and distortion, and I think at one other point in the disc -- where exactly, I forgot. It might have to do with the capabilities of your speakers, too. Because I noticed it more in my car. On my home system, which not to brag is actually very good, I didn't hear them at all.
I really wish they would have released this on SACD or DVD audio, though, because the disc sounds a bit like it doesn't jump out as much as Lateralus' more colorful moments did. Maybe they still will, because it would probably eliminate any compression artifacts.
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an SACD would be absolutely perfect for this album ( with its far larger response range), and a DSD derived hybrid/CD layer for the non-SACDers
DVD-A is good too and could certainly solve 10kd's problems
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I do agree somewhat. I only really noticed this on the climax to Vicarious, where I heard considerable popping and distortion, and I think at one other point in the disc -- where exactly, I forgot. It might have to do with the capabilities of your speakers, too. Because I noticed it more in my car. On my home system, which not to brag is actually very good, I didn't hear them at all.
I really wish they would have released this on SACD or DVD audio, though, because the disc sounds a bit like it doesn't jump out as much as Lateralus' more colorful moments did. Maybe they still will, because it would probably eliminate any compression artifacts.
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yeah, sections of vicarious are among the worst on the album AND I LIKE THAT SONG :(
an SACD would be absolutely perfect for this album ( with its far larger response range), and a DSD derived hybrid/CD layer for the non-SACDers
DVD-A is good too and could certainly solve 10kd's problems
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I thought it sounded amazing. The quality was awesome while listening with my big headphones. At some parts, it almost sounded like the music was going in circles.
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I thought it sounded amazing. The quality was awesome while listening with my big headphones. At some parts, it almost sounded like the music was going in circles.
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This definitely sounds like Adam's album. Danny had his turn with Lateralus and now Adam gets his. They must have played rock, paper, scissors for it.
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This definitely sounds like Adam's album. Danny had his turn with Lateralus and now Adam gets his. They must have played rock, paper, scissors for it.
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Yes, there seems to be clipping in Vicarious, although to me it's not distracting/annoying enough to bother me. There was one part when the tablas came (on "The Pot" I think, it was my first listen) in where I was actually looking around in my car because the sound seemed to materialize right next to me.
+1 for the mixing.
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Yes, there seems to be clipping in Vicarious, although to me it's not distracting/annoying enough to bother me. There was one part when the tablas came (on "The Pot" I think, it was my first listen) in where I was actually looking around in my car because the sound seemed to materialize right next to me.
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AEnima's recording quality is dog shit compared to this. Seriously, I don't know how you could think otherwise.
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AEnima's recording quality is dog shit compared to this. Seriously, I don't know how you could think otherwise.
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AEnima's recording quality is dog shit compared to this. Seriously, I don't know how you could think otherwise.
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i agree with naga when he says hes partial to the quality/compression of aenima. though the kit is more opened up and up front in the mix on 10k days compared to previous albums, aenimas drum tones, especially the snare, are hawt.
on the other hand i am enjoying MJK not being so up front in the mix in 10k days as he was in previous albums. also the bass tones makes my pee pee hard.
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i agree with naga when he says hes partial to the quality/compression of aenima. though the kit is more opened up and up front in the mix on 10k days compared to previous albums, aenimas drum tones, especially the snare, are hawt.
on the other hand i am enjoying MJK not being so up front in the mix in 10k days as he was in previous albums. also the bass tones makes my pee pee hard.
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I've been noticing so many new things as I listen to this album more. Some of the stero delays and reverbs are so sick. Especially the reverse reverb. God damn I like this mix.
Oh, I don't hear any clipping either. maybe it's cuz I have nice headphones?
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I've been noticing so many new things as I listen to this album more. Some of the stero delays and reverbs are so sick. Especially the reverse reverb. God damn I like this mix.
Oh, I don't hear any clipping either. maybe it's cuz I have nice headphones?
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I hear the clipping, but maybe it's cuz I have nice ears. ;)
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I hear the clipping, but maybe it's cuz I have nice ears. ;)
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I think as far as things not "jumping out" that this album was made from a perspective that valued subtlety... No moments jump out because they weren't intended to. Incidentally, I mysteriously lost Aenima and Lateralus when I bought TTD (well, downloaded, but bought it since)... so I've not had any other Tool to distract me from tuning into TTD... and once you tune into it the subtleties come alive, but it's still not going to be the same dramatic stuff, but more a Pink Floyd fluidity which I really like a lot. You may not feel the same of course, but that's just because you're not as smart as me.
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I think as far as things not "jumping out" that this album was made from a perspective that valued subtlety... No moments jump out because they weren't intended to. Incidentally, I mysteriously lost Aenima and Lateralus when I bought TTD (well, downloaded, but bought it since)... so I've not had any other Tool to distract me from tuning into TTD... and once you tune into it the subtleties come alive, but it's still not going to be the same dramatic stuff, but more a Pink Floyd fluidity which I really like a lot. You may not feel the same of course, but that's just because you're not as smart as me.
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AEnima's recording quality is dog shit compared to this. Seriously, I don't know how you could think otherwise.
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When you have a semi-decent grasp of recording principles and techniques.
10,000 Days sounds like the recording was done from a manual.
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I think Aenima, recording and mixing wise, sounds like dog shit compared to both Lateralus and 10k Days. It's just my opinion, but you're really not in any place to tell people they're wrong for thinking that.
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I think Aenima, recording and mixing wise, sounds like dog shit compared to both Lateralus and 10k Days. It's just my opinion, but you're really not in any place to tell people they're wrong for thinking that.
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05-02-2006, 10:47 AM
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When you have a semi-decent grasp of recording principles and techniques.
10,000 Days sounds like the recording was done from a manual.
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I dont know shit about "recording principles" but ill tell you this, it sounds fucking awesome on my bose when i turn it really fucking loud. So yeah, i dont need to know "recording principles" to realize how fucking sweet 10,000 days sounds. bada bum.
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Re: Regarding Sound and Recording Quality
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When you have a semi-decent grasp of recording principles and techniques.
10,000 Days sounds like the recording was done from a manual.
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I dont know shit about "recording principles" but ill tell you this, it sounds fucking awesome on my bose when i turn it really fucking loud. So yeah, i dont need to know "recording principles" to realize how fucking sweet 10,000 days sounds. bada bum.
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05-02-2006, 10:48 AM
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Some of you need to get better audio systems.
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Re: Regarding Sound and Recording Quality
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Some of you need to get better audio systems.
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05-02-2006, 10:50 AM
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Much of 10000 Days sounds like a guitar training session, the riffs are mixed WAY too loud over the drum (beat).
The songs should have built around the best drummer in the world: Danny Carey, instead of recycling endless guitar riffs.
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Are we listening to same album buddy ?
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Re: 10K Days; Too much guitar, not enough drums
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Much of 10000 Days sounds like a guitar training session, the riffs are mixed WAY too loud over the drum (beat).
The songs should have built around the best drummer in the world: Danny Carey, instead of recycling endless guitar riffs.
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Are we listening to same album buddy ?
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In m4u format on Mackie HR-824s with playback on a M-Audio Delta 10/10LT, it sounds fantastic. I have no clue what you guys are complaining about.
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05-02-2006, 11:12 AM
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Re: Regarding Sound and Recording Quality
In m4u format on Mackie HR-824s with playback on a M-Audio Delta 10/10LT, it sounds fantastic. I have no clue what you guys are complaining about.
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05-02-2006, 11:18 AM
Alright, so I got the real CD today and I'm gonna give it a thorough listening-to. So far I've only listened to Jambi, which seemed to be mixed very well (guitar felt less prominent, drums stood out). So I may have to reconsider my position.
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Alright, so I got the real CD today and I'm gonna give it a thorough listening-to. So far I've only listened to Jambi, which seemed to be mixed very well (guitar felt less prominent, drums stood out). So I may have to reconsider my position.
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When you have a semi-decent grasp of recording principles and techniques.
10,000 Days sounds like the recording was done from a manual.
Theres no character to it.
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Gacy speaks the truth. Creepy yet effective.
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05-02-2006, 11:30 AM
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Re: Regarding Sound and Recording Quality
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When you have a semi-decent grasp of recording principles and techniques.
10,000 Days sounds like the recording was done from a manual.
Theres no character to it.
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05-02-2006, 12:00 PM
The best bit of this thread is Submachines avatar clearly displaying how 'tool' should look in the logo style they've gone for, which clearly says fool, even if the album is real.
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Re: Mixing/Production issues with 10,000 Days
The best bit of this thread is Submachines avatar clearly displaying how 'tool' should look in the logo style they've gone for, which clearly says fool, even if the album is real.
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05-02-2006, 12:22 PM
i am listening to the cd now and production is really good. i got a great surround setup and the cd is very 3d like. the gutairs are louder on purpose. danny is fine in the mix and his drums are great on this cd. its just shining the light slightly on to a different section. believe me dannys place is music history as far a drumming is concerned is firm.
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Re: Mixing/Production issues with 10,000 Days
i am listening to the cd now and production is really good. i got a great surround setup and the cd is very 3d like. the gutairs are louder on purpose. danny is fine in the mix and his drums are great on this cd. its just shining the light slightly on to a different section. believe me dannys place is music history as far a drumming is concerned is firm.
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05-02-2006, 12:35 PM
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There is some great drumming on here, but it's just overpowered by Adam's riffing.
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Exactly. Endless "da da, da DA, da DA, dadada DA! dadada DA! etc, its the same sound in every song.
Annoying over regular drums, but to drown out a legend is musical suicide.
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Re: 10K Days; Too much guitar, not enough drums
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There is some great drumming on here, but it's just overpowered by Adam's riffing.
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Exactly. Endless "da da, da DA, da DA, dadada DA! dadada DA! etc, its the same sound in every song.
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Exactly. Endless "da da, da DA, da DA, dadada DA! dadada DA! etc, its the same sound in every song.
Annoying over regular drums, but to drown out a legend is musical suicide.
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to say that TOOL has commited musical suicide with this album...
blasphemy.
i wish i could keep all you nay sayers Emails etc. to ask you what you think about the CD a year from now once youve let go of "what makes tool" to you from there past works.
the CD is supposed to be different.
they wanted the light shined in a different way.
you are probably the same people that bitched about maynard being in the background onstage for the lateralus tour... and you probably shout "PLAY SOBER" in between EVERY song.
if you saw the lateralus tour, you probably complained that they played too much off of the album... and not more from... (insert your fav album here)
and only now that they have a new album do you understand the greatness that is lateralus...
and to those who think maynards vocals sound "removed or separate" on Lateralus... SEPARATE THE BODY FROM THE MIND.
oh and on a side note the members of tool are ALL MORTAL MEN. thats all.
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Re: 10K Days; Too much guitar, not enough drums
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Exactly. Endless "da da, da DA, da DA, dadada DA! dadada DA! etc, its the same sound in every song.
Annoying over regular drums, but to drown out a legend is musical suicide.
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to say that TOOL has commited musical suicide with this album...
blasphemy.
i wish i could keep all you nay sayers Emails etc. to ask you what you think about the CD a year from now once youve let go of "what makes tool" to you from there past works.
the CD is supposed to be different.
they wanted the light shined in a different way.
you are probably the same people that bitched about maynard being in the background onstage for the lateralus tour... and you probably shout "PLAY SOBER" in between EVERY song.
if you saw the lateralus tour, you probably complained that they played too much off of the album... and not more from... (insert your fav album here)
and only now that they have a new album do you understand the greatness that is lateralus...
and to those who think maynards vocals sound "removed or separate" on Lateralus... SEPARATE THE BODY FROM THE MIND.
oh and on a side note the members of tool are ALL MORTAL MEN. thats all.
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It's a bit disappointing the new album isn't being met with the same enthusiasm the last one was, at least on this board.
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05-02-2006, 01:27 PM
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Re: Mixing/Production issues with 10,000 Days
It's a bit disappointing the new album isn't being met with the same enthusiasm the last one was, at least on this board.
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05-02-2006, 01:28 PM
it was a bad idea to put the guitar work up front..
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Re: Mixing/Production issues with 10,000 Days
it was a bad idea to put the guitar work up front..
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