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Old 04-17-2006, 05:37 PM   #41
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

I can no longer hide my erection... TOOL IS BACK, MOTHERFUCKER!
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

I only need 1 ticket, but I will try to order 4. I don't think it will make a difference if I try to order 2 or 4 in all likelihood -- there will either be tix available or there won't. That means if I get lucky, I'll have 3 to contribute.
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

Yeah really, there's not going to be time for you to miss out on tix just because your specified amount is too big. It's going to be get tickets or don't get tickets.
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I only need 1 ticket, but I will try to order 4. I don't think it will make a difference if I try to order 2 or 4 in all likelihood -- there will either be tix available or there won't. That means if get get lucky, I'll have 3 to contribute.
Awesome. I say we just lay out some basic details and have at it.

Like I said - if anybody has decent ideas about how this will work please feel free to discuss. I'll be in touch on Thursday w/ the final list.

Tower is a pretty good time but yes, Aural
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If I get a ticket and I see anyone seated for any portion of the concert, they're getting a "stand the fuck up" from me. Unless they have no legs...
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It's going to be get tickets or don't get tickets.
I think you're right on the money with this statement, Mike. And I'd feel pretty damn good about myself if I kept 3 tix out of the scalpers' hands and in the hands of real fans.
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If I get a ticket and I see anyone seated for any portion of the concert, they're getting a "stand the fuck up" from me. Unless they have no legs...
is it true that the seats can't be removed? surely this is farce?

but yea, I'll boost anyone up on my shoulders that doesn't have legs.
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I don't think the seats can be moved. Which is a great thing, it'll make so that no idiot fucks start moshing!
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

Hey, also if someone gets boned on a ticket, maybe someone will be offering an extra on CraigsList...? That'd be jawesome.
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I need two floor tix (gf is obsessive hehe) and i will be trying to buy 4 so i will hopefully have 2 extra
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A lift from Penn's campus??? Take the Market/Frankford subway line Wesbound to 69th Street. When you get off at 69th Street, the tower is straight in front of you...
Thanks, I was thinking about that but couldn't figure out where the venue was in relation to the market line. In my four years at Penn, I don't think I ventured further west than 45th street so gimme a break.

Anyway, on saturday I'll be trying to get a ticket for myself and three extras for the group. I'd still like to chill with some new people because my friends suck and don't like Tool.

Also, does anyone know why ticketmaster has the show listed for Wednesday and Toolband has it as Thursday? It'd be nice to clear that up since I have to fly in for the show.
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Awesome. I say we just lay out some basic details and have at it.

Like I said - if anybody has decent ideas about how this will work please feel free to discuss. I'll be in touch on Thursday w/ the final list.

Tower is a pretty good time but yes, Aural
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Not true.. i saw deftones there back in 00 and the seats were cleared out off hte floor, only the balcony was seating, i'd assume they'd do the same for tool
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Not true.. i saw deftones there back in 00 and the seats were cleared out off hte floor, only the balcony was seating, i'd assume they'd do the same for tool
I hope they have seats, I hate dickhead moshers, and the Tower is a nice venue to just take it all in. But if they're going to take seats out, hey whatever, then I might not have to worry about where my seat is if I get a ticket.
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I don't think the seats can be moved. Which is a great thing, it'll make so that no idiot fucks start moshing!
You're going to be shit out of luck then, if I am around. I like to pay attention to Tool shows like everyone else--but there are times when an aggressive release is just the ticket. This isn't a Weezer concert :P

But I started a pit at Weezer, too ;)
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You won't want to mosh at a Tool show, too much to watch and take in.
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You won't want to mosh at a Tool show, too much to watch and take in.
This ain't my first big rodeo... last I saw Tool I sat and cried like a baby--but even then, I had to administer some punishment. I am content to just take it in, this time... New York, on the other hand--that will be absolute CHAOS.
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This ain't my first big rodeo... last I saw Tool I sat and cried like a baby--but even then, I had to administer some punishment. I am content to just take it in, this time... New York, on the other hand--that will be absolute CHAOS.
Now I remember why Radio City was such a great show... no moshing due to the seats.
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

Keep your fingers crossed.

Good luck to all. I'll be in and out tonight and tomorrow but the final list will be in place for Thursdays contact.

I hope everybody will contribute to the discussion of how this will work.

Talk to you all later.

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Keep your fingers crossed.

Good luck to all. I'll be in and out tonight and tomorrow but the final list will be in place for Thursdays contact.

I hope everybody will contribute to the discussion of how this will work.

Talk to you all later.

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The co-op simply depends on the honesty of every member. If you get tix, you have to follow through and contribute. If not, you're screwing everyone involved.

Also, I think we have to cap the number of tix claimable by any member who didn't get any. I think we have to say you can only pull a maximum of 2 out of the pooled extras.

Then we just need to determine how we prioritize who gets the extras...
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

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The co-op simply depends on the honesty of every member. If you get tix, you have to follow through and contribute. If not, you're screwing everyone involved.

Also, I think we have to cap the number of tix claimable by any member who didn't get any. I think we have to say you can only pull a maximum of 2 out of the pooled extras.

Then we just need to determine how we prioritize who gets the extras...
Yeah we pretty much set it in stone that 2 is max.
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I have my first born child(yet to be born... in Taiwan, we can pick the sex!!!), a shitload of shroomies, and of course money and fellatio...

whatever it takes
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I have a great method to determine priority if we have 10 or fewer tdn members in the co-op. How many do we have?
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like 20
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I agree with both of you.

Honesty is the only way this will work.
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like 20
Surely not that many. I'm not talking how many total tickets we need, but how many tdn members themselves are involved?
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Surely not that many. I'm not talking how many total tickets we need, but how many tdn members themselves are involved?
badshirt would know.. but it's close to 20 i believe
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badshirt would know.. but it's close to 20 i believe
Wow, that's a lot of people.
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yeah.. what's your "plan"
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yeah.. what's your "plan"
15 people on the list so far - I'm assuming that they all need at least 2. In a Wed.-Thursday e-mail we'll establish this.

But think about it - 10 of us get 4 we'll have 40. I don't know how likely that would be but keep your fingers crossed.
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Well, with ten it would work, not with 20. With ten, we could assign each person a preliminary number from 1 to 10 based on their join date. So with mike tyson, badshirt and I as an example, mike would be 1, I would be 2, and badshirt would be 3. We then say our final number will be determined by the decimal portion of the price of a given stock at the close of a given day. The ten place corresponds to preliminary number and hundreds place corresponds to the final number. So if that named stock closes at 53.19, one becomes nine. Whoever had number 1 (mike tyson) is actually number 9 on the priority list. Number 2 preliminary becomes number 10 in priority, number 3 then becomes number 1 (wrap-around). A little hard to understand, but it works really well for randomizing highest priority.
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

make that 16, i'll pm my e-mail in a second.

my girlfriend and i will both be attempting 8 tickets, 4 for our group and 4 for the pot.


anyone traveling down from northeast philly interested in setting up a pre-party?
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there's a lot of people in on this.. sweet
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One problem is that the more people we have involved, the less likely it is the every single person will be honest about contributing their extras.
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

I only need 1 Ticket. I have 5 people buying 4 a piece... so that is a possibility of 20 tickets for Philly. We'll only be needing 5 tickets, the rest would be going into the pot.

I will be in NY, so I can't be waiting in Philly to buy them, but I will be on the phone from there, trying to get tickets, while I stand in line and sit on my wifi laptop trying to get more tickets for there, too.

But yea, like I said, I only need 1... maybe 2, but I'll deal with 1.
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There are plenty of people saying they need 3 or 4 tickets. If this is the case I would prefer that every one of those 3 or 4 make a sincere attempt to buy tickets. If this does not happen I think we're doomed.

We're basically counting on our number attempting to get tickets. If 20 people are on the list but we need 3 tickets for each we'll need 60 tickets. Lets say 50% of us get 4 - Thats only 40 tickets.
I'm thinking that if you're on the list (or counted on the list as a ticket space - even if you're a date) your ticket spot needs to be trying to get tickets.

Ex. My girl and I will both be on high speed computers attempting to get 4. Each ticket taken (even if we get them ourselves w/ one spot) is attempting to buy.

We established that the cap on tickets drawn from the pool is 2 - if you take from the public pool you can only take 2.

I don't know if this is making any sense but I think the more people attempting via pc or phone the better all of our chances are.
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I need 1 ticket.
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Possibly the fair thing to do would be to distribute 2 to everybody on the list (making a sincere effort to buy tickets).

Lets be honest: I've thought about getting more than 2 - 1 for my pal who is into Tool but lazy, one for another pal - but if they're not up at 10am and don't know about the tour....if they're too lazy to attempt to get tickets I would rather have somebody from the list get them.

Get them for each other - the ones online sweating it out...the ones on the phones and the forums who will be willing to pay top dollar on eBay but don't want to.

If at all possible - make your number 2 and make your friends sign up to get 2.

Once again, not sure if I'm making sense but -

I really won't be on much tomorrow. Discuss and work it out and we'll all be in touch Wed-Thursday. I keep getting sucked back in.

My number is and will be 2 needed. I will be attempting to get 4-8.

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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

I feel like a group this large is going to be extemely difficult to manage. As much as I want us all to get tickets, I know some people are going to get screwed. I think it would almost be better if we would fragment into smaller groups and then if those smaller groups have extras, share them with the other small groups.

For instance, I only want 1 ticket. I feel like I probably have about a 25% chance of getting tickets. If I commit to try for 4 tix, and am in a group with 3 others in my same position, all four of us are practically guaranteed to get tix. We may even luck out and have 4 extra to contribute to another small group.

What do others think of this concept? I just think it's easier to manage small groups. And easier to trust members of your own small group.
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Re: 2006/05/17 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre

Not everyone is participating in this whole thing with as much tenacity as the rest of us.
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