people will drink and smoke whenever they want to regardless of what the law says...

I never thought of that until reading this post. It does make sense that those fatass fingers could be Rush's. Haha. Fat f*cker pops pills and shames the rest of the country. I love it. I think the word America translates to Hypocrite. Or atleast it should.

Who cares if rush pops pills. Don't get sucked into the media's big news! I don't care who's popping pills, smokin' dope, shooting up, getting their mud-packed....its none of my business, and I think others including the papparrazzi-media should follow suite

You're my hero...

Thanx.....but maybe you're just being sarcastic....thanx either way tho....

you're MY hero....

yeah i don't care either. BUT my piont is that he DOES.

so>? who cares>? I think its irrelavent....we can join a rush message board for that topic.

do you really think maynard would rat someone out for smoking pot? gosh.

just kidding. the best thing about this song is the pun, i think. it is about a pot head calling the kettle head black. yes, it's about a hypocrite. he is a pot head. he talks shit about or to jk. and then he pissed on his pot. i mean kettle. no, no. i mean...

by the way, my impression was that the song was about rush limbaugh as well, though i doubt it based on the specific allusions to marrijane in the song. maybe inspired by...

ps. to the ganja police- he may not be talking to you. what if he says ganja? P-lease! as is suggested as an option on the unofficial lyrics page on this site. makes more sense to me, as if he is saying "give me a fucking break and don't fucking blame the fucking weed and just take responsifuckingbility for your own fucking shit-talking, you fucking pot", but without all the fucking.

The song is titled "The Pot" because it refers to the old saying "The pot called the kettle black" which of course is about Hypocrisy. Ref: Wikepidia

I think this song is about the war on drugs. What i get from this song is people make up there mind about something when they dont understand it, make lables, spin public opinion, and then make rules that worssen the problem(eye hole deep in muddy water). Calling it The Pot makes for nifty word play, on a very popular almost harmless drug, and that kettle thing.

Um it already has been seen, the reversal of the prohibition act proved that. When alcohol whas made legal again, Gang related, and public related crime involving the sale of said product, diassapeared. You make somehting illegal when its popular then you create a blackmarket, and blackmarkets involve violent crimes.

I checked the dictionary and yes it still says condoning is not the same as 'made legal again'.... Soft drugs will, within our lifetime, never be 'made legal' because of international jurisdictional constraints; by the same token the prohibition act is an absolutely worthless analogy.

As an alternative to legalization, the dutch sytem of condoning soft drug trade for personal use shows that in fact yes it does stimulate criminal activity. As such it remains to be seen whether a wider implication of this system could in fact reduce criminal activity (although I doubt it).

Ha ha!! I love that... can I use it to make up flyers and hand out at work?

No you're not, doucheman.

Let me get this right. Marijuana causes schizophrenia?

Studies show that marijuana increases the incidence of schizophrenia in those already predisposed or holding the condition. It does not, or has not been shown, to cause it.

WE have a beautiful study population/environment around these areas and yes in long-term prospective studies it has been shown to be a causative factor. Schizophrenia is an inborn developmental disorder but marijuana lowers the threshold for those at risk to develop the condition and therefore it does count as a causative factor.; because schizophrenia is multifactorial there's no easy way of saying whether you've got the predisposition. I'll post references later, havent got the time now

i was thinking it was ask for so long.. thank you.... i'm surprised no one has mentioned indigo .. though i'm only on page two right now.. anyone hear of indigo children?... i think that may be part of the reason for the choice of the indigo adjective .. i like the got me playing tool constantly!

where does this informatin that he is a recovering alcoholic addict come from?

Well all the anger aside, I believe he has a point with the tone of that particular lyric...

it sounds almost as if he is speaking with the person and, calling for the police, and then back to the person.

"Ganja!?"
"POLICE!"
"you must have been out your mind"

It would make sence, but I don't know..

How can MJK be a recovering alcoholic if he's a big wine connoisseur? He grows his own Shiraz/Sirah and Cabernet Sauvignon grapes...... over 2000 bottles of wine in his cellar..

And I still don't hear Ganja Police...

Very typical of Maynard, I believe this song has multiple meanings. I don't think its main purpose or intent or whatever you want to call it, is about pot. Pot calling the Kettle Black.. but there are refernces like "you must have been high"... Very like maynard to have double meanings in all of his songs

Pot is for highschoolers. stick to booze or at least hard drugs :)

Ganja? PLEASE!!

Booze is for closet conservatives, and people who like 9-5, 70 degree thermostat order. Have fun turning in to your father.

Yep. Drinking is officially not cool anymore. If you get drunk off your ass, you are a sad excuse for a person. Weed is the new social drug. Drunk people are just depressing.

"Kangaroo be stoned - he's guilty as the government"

Reference to the judicial system being just as much to blame for the fucked up situation the drug war has Americans in as the legislative branch? Seems logical/obvious given the rest of the song.

Good. Get drunk if you want to have an 'ignorant' trip. Smoke pot if you want to have a creative trip. I know these are generalizations but fuck it. It's my post, I'll generalize if I want to.

You know, while we're on the whole drug encouragment binge, if you REALLY want to get creative, you could do acid...


but as for the judical system comment, I very much agree. Even if that's not what he means, it is very true. If drugs were legal, people would have a much harder time getting a hold of them. Which I find to be causticly hilarious.

Did acid a few times, never many blotters and good stuf only once. It was good... not like Ayahuasca, but it was certainly entertaining. I found it very recreational, whereas with DMT I tend to not want to move or talk much.

Umm.. Well I'm not in the closet about being conservative but ok.... and I DO work a "9-5".... Is there something wrong with that? but fuck 70 degree thermostat. And i'm nothing like my dad, apart from the fact that we're both booze hounds lol

I don't know what type of people you hang around with and I'm surprised your a tool Fan... "Weed is the new social drug"???? lol do you crave other people's acceptance? Must be in high school

Ever heard of Amsterdam? Ever been there? I have, and its not hard to get drugs. Also, Amsterdam’s economy is so fucked up because they have to pay for millions of people that go into rehab each year, not to mention it doesn't produce enough "suits" to run any business’s or the government for that matter, so most of its income in from tourism... not enough to pay for all the methadone clinic. I sure as shit don't want that to happen to my country.

Yeah DMT was a bad experience, but I've done acid plenty. :)

right 'millions' of people... (there's less than one million of us living here)

Fact: it costs on average 6% less to have a heroin addict on a free heroin distribution program than it would in not treating them ie the extra cost is made in all the crime that you're treating, not the drug addiction itself. Fact: rates for HIV and hepatitis transmission here are lower due to combined heroin/methadone programs Fact: the number of people entering rehab programs has been decreasing for years but mostly this has been due to a shift towards cocaine addictions for which there's no methadone supplement at this point, this is a global trend.

No need getting into the checks and balances on a fucked up economy relating to the US' astronomical gross national deficit

Less then one million huh?
FACT! from the CIA world Factbook: "Population: 16,491,461 (July 2006 est.) "
Here's the link if you don't believe me.... See, I can prove what I say is fact. I don't buy what you say unless you can show me a legitimate site that proves it.
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html
How can you not even know your own countries population?!?!?

Your HIV rate is about 1/3 of ours, true but I highly doubt the fact that its because of a combined heroin/methadone program..... I believe it would have more to do with unsafe sex. But neither of us can prove it, so this is both off topic and pointless

The United States' economic deficit is due to the fact that we export such a large majority of our manufacturing to third world countries and because we have such a large military budget. Out debt is 8.8 trillion USD, but we also have a GDP of over 12 trillion USD. So our deficit really isn't that big of a deal.
Not to mention that your Kingdom has a higher unemployment rate (maybe due to the rampant drug use)

My point being, and standing proven, is that the legalization of drugs is a BAD idea, because it fucks up your economy in more ways then 1.

now they think AIDS is more commonly transmitted from needles then sex.

Okay I'll cite my references

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

This a link to the cost analysis of heroin/methadone program vs a methadone only program and the link where the 6% figure comes from (combined heroin/methadone exist only in the Netherlands and Switzerland most other countries that run rehab programs run methadone programs which is way more expensive cuz your treating neither the addiction nor the crime involved)

You're idea on the US' national deficit is flawed as you confuse cause and effect. The national deficit is actually less because of the military budget as it creates an enormous economic potential. In fact, its skyhigh because a lot of the manufacturing you claim as 'exported' occurs in China where the majority of the US' import comes from where there is an enormous gap in trade balance which creates the national deficit. I doubt whether you'd find this on a CIA website but reading a foreign newspaper would help.

As the former poster has already pointed out most new cases of HIV in the Western world are due to drug use not diminished safe sex practices; clean needle programs reduce this transmission rate.

and finally a link to the number of people living in Amsterdam, less than a million ( 742,951 as of 2005 to be exact) I didnt think you'd be speaking of the whole of the netherlands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam

I'd like to see where you get your employment figures from.

And lastly yes, legalization is a BAD idea. Both hard and soft drugs; I've given my reasons for soft drugs in this thread, on this same page as a matter of fact. However, dealing with it also requires a solution born out of pragmatism not idealism and condoning personal use to allow people to find out for themselves its really plain boring most of the time and combined heroin/methadone programs are part of that solution. I do think the crime rate has gone down exactly because of this approach (and it turns out to be cheaper as well, which started this whole argument I think).

I got the employment data from the same website:
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html
(then click on the list to find the US to compare them, you'll see the Netherlands has a greater unemployment percentage)

As for the heroine/methadone programs being cheaper doesn't change the fact that comparatively, there are still more of them in the Netherlands then there are in the US percentage wise. Hence, the government still having to spend more money on the programs despite the minimal cost difference. Treating the Crime? Didn’t understand what you meant by that.

And in response to the needles issue, the US does have a clean needle program:
http://hab.hrsa.gov/tools/primarycareguide/PCGchap13.htm
They give out clean needles to heroine addicts to prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS in almost every major city in America. This is what leads me to believe that it is more commonly spread via unsafe sex, since the problem of unsafe needles is becoming void. And if you read M.Luthers post carefully he said "now they THINK AIDS is more commonly transmitted from needles then sex" implying that HIV is transmitted via sex rather then needles. Not sure if that’s what he meant, but that’s what it says.

And yeah, I talking about the Netherlands as a whole, sorry for clarifying.
Your right about the economic deficit. That’s what I was getting at when I was saying that they export their manufacturing to other countries, meaning that we buy the finished product and end up loosing out. But the fact remains that we our external deficit is smaller then our GDP, and as far as the military operations go... as you said yourself.. its just a potential

Everyone knows this song is about Tupac, duh. lol

http://thaspot.thuglifearmy.com/blog...5/02/4066.aspx

Let's all do the math together (taking heroin as an example)

Netherlands: inhabitants/currents users = 16 299 000 / 32 000 = 1 in 509

http://www.jellinek.nl/drugsvoorlich...&t=136&r=1&s=9 (trust me this is authoritative)

US: inhabitants/current users = 299 102 661 / 600 000 = 1 in 498

http://www.ncjrs.gov/htm/chapter2.htm

Yeah you win (or lose by 11 addicts); point is there's not much of a difference in these numbers, I bet doing the UK vs canada you'd get about the same rate.

By treating crime I meant treating street crime related to drug seeking behaviour.

What this does prove is that a lot of the people coming over to A'dam get the wrong idea about all the coffeeshops that appear to be everywhere you look in the city center. I get so sick of going to gigs where every other night you get served up this speech how we are so liberal etc when the band is just too friggin stoned too play a decent show; all those coffeeshops you've seen are by and large servicing tourists.

I've read that before.. Guy's a fucking wack job. Its probably someone like Ali G just fucking around seeing if he can get a reaction out of people for shits a giggles.... the guy CAN'T be serious!

its about how america is a great big melting pot and how saddam waves his finger at it....
yeah nevermind that sucks.