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Once again hypocrisy, which is the theme of the song.
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Once again hypocrisy, which is the theme of the song.
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It seem the majority agrees that its about hypocrites. Great forum reading on this at http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.ph...22107858590550.
rock hawk said it best with
He's calling out all the hypocrites that criticize stoners, but are just as lazy and worthless. Druggies might be liars, but so are lawyers, there isn't much difference.
People get up on a soapbox and preach about what everyone is doing wrong, but they are standing in a flimsy house of cards. And people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, because eventually they get back what they've dished out.
That's a clear reference when he talks about pissing on the black kettle. Ever hear the phrase, 'calling the kettle black'? You see everyone else's faults but not your own.
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It seem the majority agrees that its about hypocrites. Great forum reading on this at http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.ph...22107858590550.
rock hawk said it best with
He's calling out all the hypocrites that criticize stoners, but are just as lazy and worthless. Druggies might be liars, but so are lawyers, there isn't much difference.
People get up on a soapbox and preach about what everyone is doing wrong, but they are standing in a flimsy house of cards. And people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, because eventually they get back what they've dished out.
That's a clear reference when he talks about pissing on the black kettle. Ever hear the phrase, 'calling the kettle black'? You see everyone else's faults but not your own.
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It seem the majority agrees that its about hypocrites. Great forum reading on this at http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.ph...22107858590550.
rock hawk said it best with
He's calling out all the hypocrites that criticize stoners, but are just as lazy and worthless. Druggies might be liars, but so are lawyers, there isn't much difference.
People get up on a soapbox and preach about what everyone is doing wrong, but they are standing in a flimsy house of cards. And people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, because eventually they get back what they've dished out.
That's a clear reference when he talks about pissing on the black kettle. Ever hear the phrase, 'calling the kettle black'? You see everyone else's faults but not your own. |
Ya, hypocrisy is the theme of the song but the part under dispute is weather or not it has to do with drugs.
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It seem the majority agrees that its about hypocrites. Great forum reading on this at http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.ph...22107858590550.
rock hawk said it best with
He's calling out all the hypocrites that criticize stoners, but are just as lazy and worthless. Druggies might be liars, but so are lawyers, there isn't much difference.
People get up on a soapbox and preach about what everyone is doing wrong, but they are standing in a flimsy house of cards. And people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, because eventually they get back what they've dished out.
That's a clear reference when he talks about pissing on the black kettle. Ever hear the phrase, 'calling the kettle black'? You see everyone else's faults but not your own. |
Ya, hypocrisy is the theme of the song but the part under dispute is weather or not it has to do with drugs. |
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ok, im just going to add my two cents here about what i think this song is referring to. i believe it is about the american government and specifically bush being hypocrites. and i do think the songs has a drug connotation however superficially but i think (if the last line is indeed ganga police) that he saying with so much other shit you guys are screwing up and other things going on in the world that you are worried about drug use? that should be the least of your problems. and i think the muddy waters thing is referring to bush's inaction on katrina, and i think the lemon juice up in your eye...is a crack at how prez 'w' looks. hes all squinty eyed and such.
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ok, im just going to add my two cents here about what i think this song is referring to. i believe it is about the american government and specifically bush being hypocrites. and i do think the songs has a drug connotation however superficially but i think (if the last line is indeed ganga police) that he saying with so much other shit you guys are screwing up and other things going on in the world that you are worried about drug use? that should be the least of your problems. and i think the muddy waters thing is referring to bush's inaction on katrina, and i think the lemon juice up in your eye...is a crack at how prez 'w' looks. hes all squinty eyed and such.
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I havent read all of this thread yet cause i dont have time right now, but my own
theory about Ganja Police is that, what he really is saying is "Ganja Please!!!" "you
must have been out your mind".... saying that whatever he singing about, dont
try to tell us you were high, you lier. That's what i heard at least. Its just the way
he screams please!!! that it sounds like police.
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I havent read all of this thread yet cause i dont have time right now, but my own
theory about Ganja Police is that, what he really is saying is "Ganja Please!!!" "you
must have been out your mind".... saying that whatever he singing about, dont
try to tell us you were high, you lier. That's what i heard at least. Its just the way
he screams please!!! that it sounds like police.
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05-22-2006, 10:08 AM
fwiw - I hear "piss all over my black halo"
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fwiw - I hear "piss all over my black halo"
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uhh ... i hear a distinct kettle.... no halo
but heres something i just picked up... at 3:05 it doesnt sound like piss... this time it
sounds like "wish", or even "whizz" ... check it out
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uhh ... i hear a distinct kettle.... no halo
but heres something i just picked up... at 3:05 it doesnt sound like piss... this time it
sounds like "wish", or even "whizz" ... check it out
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05-22-2006, 10:36 AM
weird, I never noticed nard's speech impediment before
"piss all over my black kettooo.."
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weird, I never noticed nard's speech impediment before
"piss all over my black kettooo.."
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05-22-2006, 04:50 PM
the pot calling the kettle black
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the pot calling the kettle black
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why does everyone keep saying "Ganja police"?
unless he is mispronouncing "police"(which, as a singer, I can't understad right there)
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Maynard's flowing, "echoey" vocal style often softens beginnings and ends of words and causes presumed mispronunciation.
How else do you explain the song's opening lines:
Who are you to wave your finger, you must've been out your HAIR"
If that's what that line's supposed to be, then we've got a whole new can of worms to open up...
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why does everyone keep saying "Ganja police"?
unless he is mispronouncing "police"(which, as a singer, I can't understad right there)
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Maynard's flowing, "echoey" vocal style often softens beginnings and ends of words and causes presumed mispronunciation.
How else do you explain the song's opening lines:
Who are you to wave your finger, you must've been out your HAIR"
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weird, I never noticed nard's speech impediment before
"piss all over my black kettooo.."
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STOP calling him "NARD"S" dime86, or trixie or irish or whoever the hell you are. It's ridiculous.
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weird, I never noticed nard's speech impediment before
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STOP calling him "NARD"S" dime86, or trixie or irish or whoever the hell you are. It's ridiculous.
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05-23-2006, 08:22 AM
I think it's funny... along with "May May" and any number of other nicknames. Not that I would use them... but it's still funny.
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I think it's funny... along with "May May" and any number of other nicknames. Not that I would use them... but it's still funny.
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But isn't "Maynard" funny enough on its own?
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But isn't "Maynard" funny enough on its own?
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05-23-2006, 08:46 AM
Maybe to a newbie... but for those of us who have been following them for 14 years now, and saying things like, "So Maynard came out in hot pants, knee-high platform shoes, and fake breasts..." then his regular name isn't quite as funny on it's own any more.
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Maybe to a newbie... but for those of us who have been following them for 14 years now, and saying things like, "So Maynard came out in hot pants, knee-high platform shoes, and fake breasts..." then his regular name isn't quite as funny on it's own any more.
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I think it's funny... along with "May May" and any number of other nicknames.
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BWAK! That's hilarious!! May May. I might just have to use that one from now on. It's so retarded yet funny.
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I think it's funny... along with "May May" and any number of other nicknames.
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BWAK! That's hilarious!! May May. I might just have to use that one from now on. It's so retarded yet funny.
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But isn't "Maynard" funny enough on its own?
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hey!! >:-( some people happen to like the name Maynard. :-p
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hey!! >:-( some people happen to like the name Maynard. :-p
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Maybe to a newbie... but for those of us who have been following them for 14 years now, and saying things like, "So Maynard came out in hot pants, knee-high platform shoes, and fake breasts..." then his regular name isn't quite as funny on it's own any more.
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Maybe to a newbie... but for those of us who have been following them for 14 years now, and saying things like, "So Maynard came out in hot pants, knee-high platform shoes, and fake breasts..." then his regular name isn't quite as funny on it's own any more.
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Haha... no offense intended. Maybe to me, "Maynard" has become such a "household name," so to speak, that it's lost its humor value.
C'mon... you know May May makes you chuckle a little. Just picture him swishing around the stage in a pretty ball gown...
WOW... so... off-topic huh? Yeah... um... hypocrisy, and drugs, and um... I think "ganja police" is wrong, just for the record.
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Haha... no offense intended. Maybe to me, "Maynard" has become such a "household name," so to speak, that it's lost its humor value.
C'mon... you know May May makes you chuckle a little. Just picture him swishing around the stage in a pretty ball gown...
WOW... so... off-topic huh? Yeah... um... hypocrisy, and drugs, and um... I think "ganja police" is wrong, just for the record.
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I just keep thinking of Maynard G. Crebbs (sp?) from the Dobie Gillis show on Nick at Nite, and I laugh.
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Haha... no offense intended. Maybe to me, "Maynard" has become such a "household name," so to speak, that it's lost its humor value.
C'mon... you know May May makes you chuckle a little. Just picture him swishing around the stage in a pretty ball gown...
WOW... so... off-topic huh? Yeah... um... hypocrisy, and drugs, and um... I think "ganja police" is wrong, just for the record.
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None taken, I'm just little goofy this morning.
And for the record, I see May-May as MJK's new hip-hop identity- he'll only use it when he's hangin' with P-Diddy, Master P, and Busta Rhymes . . .
And I don't think the line is Ganja Police, either, even though a statement like that would probably prompt a "you must have been out your mind" from me. "Got to believe" just makes more sense.
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Haha... no offense intended. Maybe to me, "Maynard" has become such a "household name," so to speak, that it's lost its humor value.
C'mon... you know May May makes you chuckle a little. Just picture him swishing around the stage in a pretty ball gown...
WOW... so... off-topic huh? Yeah... um... hypocrisy, and drugs, and um... I think "ganja police" is wrong, just for the record.
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None taken, I'm just little goofy this morning.
And for the record, I see May-May as MJK's new hip-hop identity- he'll only use it when he's hangin' with P-Diddy, Master P, and Busta Rhymes . . .
And I don't think the line is Ganja Police, either, even though a statement like that would probably prompt a "you must have been out your mind" from me. "Got to believe" just makes more sense.
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May May JK......OMG!!
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May May JK......OMG!!
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I just keep thinking of Maynard G. Crebbs (sp?) from the Dobie Gillis show on Nick at Nite, and I laugh.
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Ooohh yeah... I forgot about that one. Good point...
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I just keep thinking of Maynard G. Crebbs (sp?) from the Dobie Gillis show on Nick at Nite, and I laugh.
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Ooohh yeah... I forgot about that one. Good point...
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05-23-2006, 10:27 AM
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I think it's funny... along with "May May" and any number of other nicknames. Not that I would use them... but it's still funny.
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05-23-2006, 10:27 AM
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I think it's funny... along with "May May" and any number of other nicknames. Not that I would use them... but it's still funny.
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05-23-2006, 10:33 AM
Really i just despise the person, dime86, who is also like ten other people on this forum. But i do hate the term"the nard" or "NARD'S" witch keeps being used by the asshole in ?. Also, i think its gotta believe too.
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Really i just despise the person, dime86, who is also like ten other people on this forum. But i do hate the term"the nard" or "NARD'S" witch keeps being used by the asshole in ?. Also, i think its gotta believe too.
Mandy
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05-23-2006, 10:36 AM
Interesting interpretation to start this topic, Dungflowers.
I think you're onto something....
BTW, speaking of a video for this song, here's what appears
to be a video made by a fan. Pretty cool....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIuEu2W_4tg
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05-23-2006, 10:36 AM
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Interesting interpretation to start this topic, Dungflowers.
I think you're onto something....
BTW, speaking of a video for this song, here's what appears
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05-23-2006, 10:49 AM
that was cool.
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that was cool.
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05-23-2006, 10:51 AM
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weird, I never noticed nard's speech impediment before
"piss all over my black kettooo.."
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also he very clearly says kettle.
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05-23-2006, 10:51 AM
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weird, I never noticed nard's speech impediment before
"piss all over my black kettooo.."
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05-23-2006, 10:55 AM
this thread is stickied along with its opposite, to give new people to the forum some starting points.
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05-23-2006, 10:55 AM
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this thread is stickied along with its opposite, to give new people to the forum some starting points.
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do you think nard would write a song about pot? really...
Come on, he has bigger ideas than some hippie stoner in North Cali...
Just giving him some credit.
The true reason for vagueness is along the lines of tool/rush/mars' post.
Anyway, the guy loves his double entendres. Its a good way to seem witty and mysterious.
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05-23-2006, 02:25 PM
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do you think nard would write a song about pot? really...
Come on, he has bigger ideas than some hippie stoner in North Cali...
Just giving him some credit.
The true reason for vagueness is along the lines of tool/rush/mars' post.
Anyway, the guy loves his double entendres. Its a good way to seem witty and mysterious.
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05-24-2006, 05:21 AM
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But i do hate the term"the nard" or "NARD'S" ........
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the thought of the name Maynard being shorted to Nard is re-TARDed. Good lord!! It's like a guy who birth name is Robert and would rather be called Bert!
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the thought of the name Maynard being shorted to Nard is re-TARDed. Good lord!! It's like a guy who birth name is Robert and would rather be called Bert!
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copied this from the wikipedia page on 10,000 Days:
In the previously-mentioned Guitar World interview, Jones confirmed that the title of "The Pot" was a reference to an idiomatic term for hypocrisy (i.e., the "pot calling the kettle black").
here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%2C000_days
to me, this song is about the hypocrisy of not only bush but of the u.s. as a whole.
the line "eyeballs deep in muddy water" seems to reference how we are so dependant on oil and our excessive lifestyles that it obscures our ability to see the truth and reality of things quite a bit. it could also bias our decisions on what we do or let happen.
"kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent" could be about how the bush administration used 9/11(the innocent victims) to scare, trick, pursuade, rouse up, and/or justify going to war with iraq. that goes along with "weeping tears of chosen indago, got lemon juice up in your eye". like politicians so often do, they made themselves look so sympathetic over the 9/11 tragedy to suck people in.
"you must have been high"...our society is so high on excess and desire and keeping our "rightly" high place in the world that we went along with it all.
overall, i think it's about how hypocritical our sociecty is. who are we to point our fingers at anyone when we're far from perfect ourselves.
one last thing...i've seen a lot of articles from the left wing perspective that point to incidences that either the u.s. had been directly involved in, or had at least a part to play, they say implicates the u.s. as terrorists. so in that light, who are we to call others fighting for what they believe in terrorists?
well, just some thoughts on it anyway.
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05-24-2006, 11:31 AM
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copied this from the wikipedia page on 10,000 Days:
In the previously-mentioned Guitar World interview, Jones confirmed that the title of "The Pot" was a reference to an idiomatic term for hypocrisy (i.e., the "pot calling the kettle black").
here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%2C000_days
to me, this song is about the hypocrisy of not only bush but of the u.s. as a whole.
the line "eyeballs deep in muddy water" seems to reference how we are so dependant on oil and our excessive lifestyles that it obscures our ability to see the truth and reality of things quite a bit. it could also bias our decisions on what we do or let happen.
"kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent" could be about how the bush administration used 9/11(the innocent victims) to scare, trick, pursuade, rouse up, and/or justify going to war with iraq. that goes along with "weeping tears of chosen indago, got lemon juice up in your eye". like politicians so often do, they made themselves look so sympathetic over the 9/11 tragedy to suck people in.
"you must have been high"...our society is so high on excess and desire and keeping our "rightly" high place in the world that we went along with it all.
overall, i think it's about how hypocritical our sociecty is. who are we to point our fingers at anyone when we're far from perfect ourselves.
one last thing...i've seen a lot of articles from the left wing perspective that point to incidences that either the u.s. had been directly involved in, or had at least a part to play, they say implicates the u.s. as terrorists. so in that light, who are we to call others fighting for what they believe in terrorists?
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the thought of the name Maynard being shorted to Nard is re-TARDed. Good lord!! It's like a guy who birth name is Robert and would rather be called Bert!
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Ya ok, I could see it like that. Except the last time i talked to Maynard he didn't say any thing like (oh no I insist please call me "the Nard") "NARD'S" or "MAY MAY" (witch is my nick name). Soooo until he tell's me other wise I'll be respectful of his wishes and call him Maynard. The name he chose for himself.
M. May:)
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the thought of the name Maynard being shorted to Nard is re-TARDed. Good lord!! It's like a guy who birth name is Robert and would rather be called Bert!
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Ya ok, I could see it like that. Except the last time i talked to Maynard he didn't say any thing like (oh no I insist please call me "the Nard") "NARD'S" or "MAY MAY" (witch is my nick name). Soooo until he tell's me other wise I'll be respectful of his wishes and call him Maynard. The name he chose for himself.
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05-25-2006, 11:43 AM
This song is just a fresh breather after Wings 1 & 2 with a relative easy message.
It's about the US and their fucked up policy over the last decades which they've justified with 'bringing democracy to Vietnam' and 'the war on terror'.
"The pot" (calling the kettle black) is about the US waving their finger at other countries while they have enough (national) problems of their own
..the pot as in weed just explains the highness of the US when they made wrong/stupid decisions.
There could be more references/methaphores in this song.. but those above are in my opinion the most important and most logical ones.
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Re: This song has nothing to do with Marijuana.
This song is just a fresh breather after Wings 1 & 2 with a relative easy message.
It's about the US and their fucked up policy over the last decades which they've justified with 'bringing democracy to Vietnam' and 'the war on terror'.
"The pot" (calling the kettle black) is about the US waving their finger at other countries while they have enough (national) problems of their own
..the pot as in weed just explains the highness of the US when they made wrong/stupid decisions.
There could be more references/methaphores in this song.. but those above are in my opinion the most important and most logical ones.
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STOP calling him "NARD"S" dime86, or trixie or irish or whoever the hell you are. It's ridiculous.
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Hmmm, and who are you to wave your finger? Funny this has come up in "the pot" thread. I'll type slow so you understand what I am saying.
I used the name "The Nard" to describe the attitude of the 3 fuck-sticks standing next to me at the Detroit show. Sound familiar? You see, they judged me because I got my ticket scalped. Why the fuck should they care you ask? Because the Nard told them to.
You are now "Queen Nard" for actually giving a crap what they call your precious Maynard.
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STOP calling him "NARD"S" dime86, or trixie or irish or whoever the hell you are. It's ridiculous.
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Hmmm, and who are you to wave your finger? Funny this has come up in "the pot" thread. I'll type slow so you understand what I am saying.
I used the name "The Nard" to describe the attitude of the 3 fuck-sticks standing next to me at the Detroit show. Sound familiar? You see, they judged me because I got my ticket scalped. Why the fuck should they care you ask? Because the Nard told them to.
You are now "Queen Nard" for actually giving a crap what they call your precious Maynard.
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05-25-2006, 05:13 PM
Come on guys, stop sweatin' the petty stuff and start pettin' the sweaty stuff. I'm seriously. I hate you guys. Screw you guys, I'm going home. NO KITTY THAT"S A BAD KITTY!!
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Come on guys, stop sweatin' the petty stuff and start pettin' the sweaty stuff. I'm seriously. I hate you guys. Screw you guys, I'm going home. NO KITTY THAT"S A BAD KITTY!!
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Hmmm, and who are you to wave your finger? Funny this has come up in "the pot" thread. I'll type slow so you understand what I am saying.
I used the name "The Nard" to describe the attitude of the 3 fuck-sticks standing next to me at the Detroit show. Sound familiar? You see, they judged me because I got my ticket scalped. Why the fuck should they care you ask? Because the Nard told them to.
You are now "Queen Nard" for actually giving a crap what they call your precious Maynard.
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1 no body fucked with you for getting a scalped ticket
2 your dumb
3 if i hadn't waited 2 days out side the fox and been first in line to get my tickets, i would have payed any scalper price to be at the show. so why would i give a fuck that you did?
4 your fucking dumb!
5 if you needed to tell lies n talk shit why did you not do it to my face? oooooh i remember cause i scared you right? maybe you just got mad that your fat fuck boyfriend was looking at me cause your gross.
6 i hate you, your dumb.
7why did it take you so long to respond trick? were you busy posting with other names then responding to yourself cause you so desperately need to sway popular opinion and have the reassurance of others?
8PLEEEEZE don't delete my post again, i know your a mod as well.
9 pm me, we can settle this out side the computer ok:)
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Hmmm, and who are you to wave your finger? Funny this has come up in "the pot" thread. I'll type slow so you understand what I am saying.
I used the name "The Nard" to describe the attitude of the 3 fuck-sticks standing next to me at the Detroit show. Sound familiar? You see, they judged me because I got my ticket scalped. Why the fuck should they care you ask? Because the Nard told them to.
You are now "Queen Nard" for actually giving a crap what they call your precious Maynard.
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1 no body fucked with you for getting a scalped ticket
2 your dumb
3 if i hadn't waited 2 days out side the fox and been first in line to get my tickets, i would have payed any scalper price to be at the show. so why would i give a fuck that you did?
4 your fucking dumb!
5 if you needed to tell lies n talk shit why did you not do it to my face? oooooh i remember cause i scared you right? maybe you just got mad that your fat fuck boyfriend was looking at me cause your gross.
6 i hate you, your dumb.
7why did it take you so long to respond trick? were you busy posting with other names then responding to yourself cause you so desperately need to sway popular opinion and have the reassurance of others?
8PLEEEEZE don't delete my post again, i know your a mod as well.
9 pm me, we can settle this out side the computer ok:)
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05-25-2006, 07:17 PM
I just cant believe how full of shit you are! are you like a compulsive lier or some shit?
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I just cant believe how full of shit you are! are you like a compulsive lier or some shit?
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05-26-2006, 12:35 AM
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1 no body fucked with you for getting a scalped ticket
2 your dumb
3 if i hadn't waited 2 days out side the fox and been first in line to get my tickets, i would have payed any scalper price to be at the show. so why would i give a fuck that you did?
4 your fucking dumb!
5 if you needed to tell lies n talk shit why did you not do it to my face? oooooh i remember cause i scared you right? maybe you just got mad that your fat fuck boyfriend was looking at me cause your gross.
6 i hate you, your dumb.
7why did it take you so long to respond trick? were you busy posting with other names then responding to yourself cause you so desperately need to sway popular opinion and have the reassurance of others?
8PLEEEEZE don't delete my post again, i know your a mod as well.
9 pm me, we can settle this out side the computer ok:)
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Queen Nard,
This is all you have to bring to the table?
1. Fuck you Junky and Fuck your short memory.
2. Actually, I'm bored with you but, willing to play as you are an easy mark.
3. Its a bitch arguing with people who change their story each way the wind blows. Bring your boyfriend back, at least he had amusing things to say.
4 and 5. I know, because you are soo beautiful right? Well, you can dress shit up but, underneath its still shit.
7 & 8. Paranoid and delusional. You are like play-doh my sweet. My fucked up little puppet.
9 & 10. You send such silly pm's. Like, you have a fatal disease but, you want to fist fight me over an internet quarrel? The more you hate me and say this ridiculous crap, the more I stand by my original assesment of you. Pretentious & stuck up and oh sooo full of drama!
Thank you so much for amusing me the way you do!
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1 no body fucked with you for getting a scalped ticket
2 your dumb
3 if i hadn't waited 2 days out side the fox and been first in line to get my tickets, i would have payed any scalper price to be at the show. so why would i give a fuck that you did?
4 your fucking dumb!
5 if you needed to tell lies n talk shit why did you not do it to my face? oooooh i remember cause i scared you right? maybe you just got mad that your fat fuck boyfriend was looking at me cause your gross.
6 i hate you, your dumb.
7why did it take you so long to respond trick? were you busy posting with other names then responding to yourself cause you so desperately need to sway popular opinion and have the reassurance of others?
8PLEEEEZE don't delete my post again, i know your a mod as well.
9 pm me, we can settle this out side the computer ok:)
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Queen Nard,
This is all you have to bring to the table?
1. Fuck you Junky and Fuck your short memory.
2. Actually, I'm bored with you but, willing to play as you are an easy mark.
3. Its a bitch arguing with people who change their story each way the wind blows. Bring your boyfriend back, at least he had amusing things to say.
4 and 5. I know, because you are soo beautiful right? Well, you can dress shit up but, underneath its still shit.
7 & 8. Paranoid and delusional. You are like play-doh my sweet. My fucked up little puppet.
9 & 10. You send such silly pm's. Like, you have a fatal disease but, you want to fist fight me over an internet quarrel? The more you hate me and say this ridiculous crap, the more I stand by my original assesment of you. Pretentious & stuck up and oh sooo full of drama!
Thank you so much for amusing me the way you do!
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Queen Nard,
This is all you have to bring to the table?
1. Fuck you Junky and Fuck your short memory.
2. Actually, I'm bored with you but, willing to play as you are an easy mark.
3. Its a bitch arguing with people who change their story each way the wind blows. Bring your boyfriend back, at least he had amusing things to say.
4 and 5. I know, because you are soo beautiful right? Well, you can dress shit up but, underneath its still shit.
7 & 8. Paranoid and delusional. You are like play-doh my sweet. My fucked up little puppet.
9 & 10. You send such silly pm's. Like, you have a fatal disease but, you want to fist fight me over an internet quarrel? The more you hate me and say this ridiculous crap, the more I stand by my original assesment of you. Pretentious & stuck up and oh sooo full of drama!
Thank you so much for amusing me the way you do!
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your still dumb.
Yes I am Ill and just dont give a fuck, I dont give a fuck about your dilusions, your made up stories, and especially your pathetic existence. I have tried, and tried, and tried to wrap my mind around your motives for posting such slanderis comments and have come up with only one explination, i think you may be a bit of a sociopath. My story and reasons for whatever it is that set you off have been consistent the entire time. The fact is , you started talking shit for no apparent reason, which is very two faced of you since you really seemed to get along with my boyfriends brother, who by the way, was the person standing next to you at the show. It was not my boyfriend or I, and neither of us remember anything other then casual conversation and possibly an exchange of pleasentries.You stated that because we got the first tix at the fox we somehow robbed others of the opportunity to see the show. You called me scary and goth because instead of wearing a t-shirt n jeans I wore a dress that my momma bought because she thought I would want to wear it to the show and I love her and wouldn't hurt her feelings, so I wore it. You also said we were all sloppy drunk, Jon and I have been off mind altering chemicals of any sort for a year now.Basically you flat out told a bunch of lies for no reason about people who were very polite to you and actually thought your BF seemed like a cool guy....
(by the way i read your post saying the fox would be your fifth show this tour so why don't you stop robbing others and let someone see their first)...
"fuck you junkie and your short memory" hey, thats good did you come up with that your self? I DON'T DO DRUGS!! You on the other hand sure were busy going back and forth for booze at the show .
Ya, I would fight you over this on principal alone and because once again , I just dont give a FUCK. You had an opportunity to say these things to my face and instead you ran to your computer. thats just pussy shit. But in the end I guess it worked out for you, if you had the nerve to say any of the things in person I would have promptly smacked the shit out of you and then handed you your high and mighty ass. Some people just dont understand that there really are consequences for their actions.
I said nothing about you or your boyfriends looks, until you started in on my loved ones and myself. The only reason I said maybe you were jealous is because I can think of no other rational explanation for this bull shit you started. also ANYTHING SAID BY ME OR JON WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE SHIT YOU STARTED. YOU BROUGHT THE FUCKING TABLE OUT. NO, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO BRING TO IT YOUR A STEREOTYPING GODDAMN ONE-UPING ASS HOLE FULL OF SHIT AND THERES NOTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
this is the last thing i intend to say to you unless you'll take me up on my offer,
GO CHOKE ON A BIG FAT CHUBY ONE O.K. (AND I DONT MEAN A PORKCHOP EITHER)
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05-26-2006, 09:34 PM
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Level 7 - Loquacious
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: the planet ice moon 326
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Re: This song has nothing to do with Marijuana.
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Originally Posted by trixie
Queen Nard,
This is all you have to bring to the table?
1. Fuck you Junky and Fuck your short memory.
2. Actually, I'm bored with you but, willing to play as you are an easy mark.
3. Its a bitch arguing with people who change their story each way the wind blows. Bring your boyfriend back, at least he had amusing things to say.
4 and 5. I know, because you are soo beautiful right? Well, you can dress shit up but, underneath its still shit.
7 & 8. Paranoid and delusional. You are like play-doh my sweet. My fucked up little puppet.
9 & 10. You send such silly pm's. Like, you have a fatal disease but, you want to fist fight me over an internet quarrel? The more you hate me and say this ridiculous crap, the more I stand by my original assesment of you. Pretentious & stuck up and oh sooo full of drama!
Thank you so much for amusing me the way you do!
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your still dumb.
Yes I am Ill and just dont give a fuck, I dont give a fuck about your dilusions, your made up stories, and especially your pathetic existence. I have tried, and tried, and tried to wrap my mind around your motives for posting such slanderis comments and have come up with only one explination, i think you may be a bit of a sociopath. My story and reasons for whatever it is that set you off have been consistent the entire time. The fact is , you started talking shit for no apparent reason, which is very two faced of you since you really seemed to get along with my boyfriends brother, who by the way, was the person standing next to you at the show. It was not my boyfriend or I, and neither of us remember anything other then casual conversation and possibly an exchange of pleasentries.You stated that because we got the first tix at the fox we somehow robbed others of the opportunity to see the show. You called me scary and goth because instead of wearing a t-shirt n jeans I wore a dress that my momma bought because she thought I would want to wear it to the show and I love her and wouldn't hurt her feelings, so I wore it. You also said we were all sloppy drunk, Jon and I have been off mind altering chemicals of any sort for a year now.Basically you flat out told a bunch of lies for no reason about people who were very polite to you and actually thought your BF seemed like a cool guy....
(by the way i read your post saying the fox would be your fifth show this tour so why don't you stop robbing others and let someone see their first)...
"fuck you junkie and your short memory" hey, thats good did you come up with that your self? I DON'T DO DRUGS!! You on the other hand sure were busy going back and forth for booze at the show .
Ya, I would fight you over this on principal alone and because once again , I just dont give a FUCK. You had an opportunity to say these things to my face and instead you ran to your computer. thats just pussy shit. But in the end I guess it worked out for you, if you had the nerve to say any of the things in person I would have promptly smacked the shit out of you and then handed you your high and mighty ass. Some people just dont understand that there really are consequences for their actions.
I said nothing about you or your boyfriends looks, until you started in on my loved ones and myself. The only reason I said maybe you were jealous is because I can think of no other rational explanation for this bull shit you started. also ANYTHING SAID BY ME OR JON WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE SHIT YOU STARTED. YOU BROUGHT THE FUCKING TABLE OUT. NO, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO BRING TO IT YOUR A STEREOTYPING GODDAMN ONE-UPING ASS HOLE FULL OF SHIT AND THERES NOTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
this is the last thing i intend to say to you unless you'll take me up on my offer,
GO CHOKE ON A BIG FAT CHUBY ONE O.K. (AND I DONT MEAN A PORKCHOP EITHER) |
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