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12-07-2006, 12:06 PM
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They don't nominate songs that aren't released for radio play. Therefore, 10,000 days/Wings or Jambi are not up for nominations. The other song that would be is The Pot, but I think we can take our chances with Vicarious. It's a great song that's been on radio for 6+ months. People know the song that are not necessarily Tool fans.
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Re: Will Tool be nominated for any Grammys this year?

They don't nominate songs that aren't released for radio play. Therefore, 10,000 days/Wings or Jambi are not up for nominations. The other song that would be is The Pot, but I think we can take our chances with Vicarious. It's a great song that's been on radio for 6+ months. People know the song that are not necessarily Tool fans.
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It's nice to see that they've been nominated for Vicarious, but I don't think Tool needs a grammy to prove anything. These award shows are kinda silly if you ask me. Everyone is just waiting to hear their favorite artist's name so they can clap and cheer, but rarely is anyone "turned on to something new or different" because of an award show.



These were my exact thoughts when I saw Tool over the summer, Confield. The place was beyond sold out, but as you mention; Schism, Aenima, Stinkfist and Sober were the only songs that got a big reaction out of the crowd while so many people stood lifeless and baffled during songs like Jambi and Rosetta Stoned. I lost faith in so many "Tool fans" that evening......I know there are those of us who look deeper into the music, but you are exactly right about Tool being radically popular for all the wrong reasons.
People liking Tool for all the wrong reasons is an opinion. That means that you're incorrect in your assumption. It's just how you feel, it's not a fact. I love Tool because of the odd time signatures and their ability to work within them. I love Tool because Maynard creates some of the most intense vocal melodies EVER created. I love Tool because there isn't a rock drummer better than Danny Carey in my OPINION and I doubt anyone will ever change that. I am open to that possibility however. I love Tool because of the way they have intertwined art, music, magick, imagery, hidden meaning, symbolism, religion, iconography, and they have forced me to look beyond the surface. These are reasons that *I* like Tool. They move me emotionally like no other group of people on the planet. They are *MY* reasons, not anyone else's. Enjoy the music for reasons that *YOU* like them. Don't be affected by reasons that other people choose. Enjoy the moment and stop acting like you are better than someone else because you "get it". If you were better than someone else, you'd be using your energy positively, not the opposite.

Just to be clear, the reasons I like Tool are all opinions, I don't state them as fact. I am happy that people enjoy Tool for their own reasons. If I was Tool's only fan, I would still like them as much as I do now. I could care less what other people think of my favorite artist.
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It's nice to see that they've been nominated for Vicarious, but I don't think Tool needs a grammy to prove anything. These award shows are kinda silly if you ask me. Everyone is just waiting to hear their favorite artist's name so they can clap and cheer, but rarely is anyone "turned on to something new or different" because of an award show.



These were my exact thoughts when I saw Tool over the summer, Confield. The place was beyond sold out, but as you mention; Schism, Aenima, Stinkfist and Sober were the only songs that got a big reaction out of the crowd while so many people stood lifeless and baffled during songs like Jambi and Rosetta Stoned. I lost faith in so many "Tool fans" that evening......I know there are those of us who look deeper into the music, but you are exactly right about Tool being radically popular for all the wrong reasons.
People liking Tool for all the wrong reasons is an opinion. That means that you're incorrect in your assumption. It's just how you feel, it's not a fact. I love Tool because of the odd time signatures and their ability to work within them. I love Tool because Maynard creates some of the most intense vocal melodies EVER created. I love Tool because there isn't a rock drummer better than Danny Carey in my OPINION and I doubt anyone will ever change that. I am open to that possibility however. I love Tool because of the way they have intertwined art, music, magick, imagery, hidden meaning, symbolism, religion, iconography, and they have forced me to look beyond the surface. These are reasons that *I* like Tool. They move me emotionally like no other group of people on the planet. They are *MY* reasons, not anyone else's. Enjoy the music for reasons that *YOU* like them. Don't be affected by reasons that other people choose. Enjoy the moment and stop acting like you are better than someone else because you "get it". If you were better than someone else, you'd be using your energy positively, not the opposite.

Just to be clear, the reasons I like Tool are all opinions, I don't state them as fact. I am happy that people enjoy Tool for their own reasons. If I was Tool's only fan, I would still like them as much as I do now. I could care less what other people think of my favorite artist.
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Well, I like Tool for many of the same reasons you do and I don't think I am any better than anyone else because I get it. It's just an observation....and yeah, I could give a shit what other people think of them myself, but it bothers me when I stand way in the back admiring every song, while those with seats near the front are more intersted in the beer that they are drinking and talk on their cell phones.
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Well, I like Tool for many of the same reasons you do and I don't think I am any better than anyone else because I get it. It's just an observation....and yeah, I could give a shit what other people think of them myself, but it bothers me when I stand way in the back admiring every song, while those with seats near the front are more intersted in the beer that they are drinking and talk on their cell phones.
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Tool have this one won. The only other competition is from NIN and SOAD
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Tool have this one won. The only other competition is from NIN and SOAD
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someone remind me...

WHATS SO GOOD ABOUT WINNING THIS GRAMMY?

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That list is very offensive. Vicarious gets a nomination but not Jambi, Wings For Marie or 10,000 Days? Don't get me wrong Vicarious is a very good song but shit it's probably one of the last songs off that CD I'd nominate.
I THINK THEY ONLY NOMINATE SINGLES... I THINK.
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someone remind me...

WHATS SO GOOD ABOUT WINNING THIS GRAMMY?

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That list is very offensive. Vicarious gets a nomination but not Jambi, Wings For Marie or 10,000 Days? Don't get me wrong Vicarious is a very good song but shit it's probably one of the last songs off that CD I'd nominate.
I THINK THEY ONLY NOMINATE SINGLES... I THINK.
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Best Hard Rock Performance and Best Cd Packaging.

Awesome

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Best Hard Rock Performance and Best Cd Packaging.

Awesome

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Best Hard Rock Performance and Best Cd Packaging.

Awesome
they really shoulda put velcro on that fuckin cd case...


also, no clue there was a "best cd packaging" category....odd...
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Best Hard Rock Performance and Best Cd Packaging.

Awesome
they really shoulda put velcro on that fuckin cd case...


also, no clue there was a "best cd packaging" category....odd...
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they made it because of the awesomeness of 10kd.
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they made it because of the awesomeness of 10kd.
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Honestly, they deserve best cd packaging. but nothing else, because 10,000 Days sucks.
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Honestly, they deserve best cd packaging. but nothing else, because 10,000 Days sucks.
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Honestly, they deserve best cd packaging. but nothing else, because 10,000 Days sucks.
I think that really depends on who else is nominated for "Best Hard Rock Performance"....
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Honestly, they deserve best cd packaging. but nothing else, because 10,000 Days sucks.
I think that really depends on who else is nominated for "Best Hard Rock Performance"....
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I think that really depends on who else is nominated for "Best Hard Rock Performance"....
NIN, System of a Down, Buckcherry, and some band named Wolfmother <-- if they win then godamnit!
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I think that really depends on who else is nominated for "Best Hard Rock Performance"....
NIN, System of a Down, Buckcherry, and some band named Wolfmother <-- if they win then godamnit!
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Wow...they have a category for best CD packaging now? They should probably win that one hands down
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Wow...they have a category for best CD packaging now? They should probably win that one hands down
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It means tool win, they stay true to themselves the fans and the music and still excel within the mainstream musical scene in every way.



Now my question, as i never watch the grammys. Do they broadcast the entire segment including every single nomination/grammy or do they only show the really popular ones?
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It means tool win, they stay true to themselves the fans and the music and still excel within the mainstream musical scene in every way.



Now my question, as i never watch the grammys. Do they broadcast the entire segment including every single nomination/grammy or do they only show the really popular ones?
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Best packaging is definitely a win hands down.
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They were born for that award.
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Best packaging is definitely a win hands down.
Well, you never know. Ani difranco might be nominated also.
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Best packaging is definitely a win hands down.
Well, you never know. Ani difranco might be nominated also.
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It means tool win, they stay true to themselves the fans and the music and still excel within the mainstream musical scene in every way.



Now my question, as i never watch the grammys. Do they broadcast the entire segment including every single nomination/grammy or do they only show the really popular ones?
pretty much the popular ones.

anyways i see the only one that would maybe win over TOOL would be Everyday is exactly the same by NIN. the SOAD song that is nominated IMO is the shittest SOAD song i have ever heard and i really like them.
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It means tool win, they stay true to themselves the fans and the music and still excel within the mainstream musical scene in every way.



Now my question, as i never watch the grammys. Do they broadcast the entire segment including every single nomination/grammy or do they only show the really popular ones?
pretty much the popular ones.

anyways i see the only one that would maybe win over TOOL would be Everyday is exactly the same by NIN. the SOAD song that is nominated IMO is the shittest SOAD song i have ever heard and i really like them.
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Why is NIN in there? With Teeth was just a piece of cardboard that said "go visit my website"
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Why is NIN in there? With Teeth was just a piece of cardboard that said "go visit my website"
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Tool's got the packaging grammy in the bag.


and yeah i heard they only show the Rap, rock, pop, etc grammys only.
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Tool's got the packaging grammy in the bag.


and yeah i heard they only show the Rap, rock, pop, etc grammys only.
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It would be downright insulting if tool lost to buckcherry or wolfmother. SOAD and NIN would be a lot better to lose to. But it doesn't really matter anyway.
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It would be downright insulting if tool lost to buckcherry or wolfmother. SOAD and NIN would be a lot better to lose to. But it doesn't really matter anyway.
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* The Best Worst-Case Scenario
Ryan Clark, art director (Fair)
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* Personal File
Randall Martin, art director (Johnny Cash)
[Columbia/Legacy Recordings]

* Reprieve
Ani DiFranco & Brian Grunert, art directors (Ani DiFranco)
[Righteous Babe Records]

* 10,000 Days
Adam Jones, art director (Tool)
[Tool Dissectional/Volcano/Zomba Label Group]

* Versions
Neal Ashby & Matthew Curry, art directors (Thievery Corporation)
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Best Recording Package

* The Best Worst-Case Scenario
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* Personal File
Randall Martin, art director (Johnny Cash)
[Columbia/Legacy Recordings]

* Reprieve
Ani DiFranco & Brian Grunert, art directors (Ani DiFranco)
[Righteous Babe Records]

* 10,000 Days
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* Versions
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NIN, System of a Down, Buckcherry, and some band named Wolfmother <-- if they win then godamnit!
I rest my case.
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I rest my case.
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I hope they win "Best Hard Rock Performance". Compared to those other bands, looks like they have a really good chance.
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I hope they win "Best Hard Rock Performance". Compared to those other bands, looks like they have a really good chance.
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i think NIN was better than Tool.
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i think NIN was better than Tool.
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(For solo, duo, group or collaborative performances, with vocals. Singles or Tracks only.)

* Crazy Bitch
Buckcherry
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* Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Nine Inch Nails
Track from: With Teeth
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* Lonely Day
System Of A Down
Track from: Hypnotize
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* Vicarious
Tool
Track from: 10,000 Days
[Volcano/Zomba Label Group]

* Woman
Wolfmother
Track from: Wolfmother
[Modular/Interscope Records]
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Best Hard Rock Performance
(For solo, duo, group or collaborative performances, with vocals. Singles or Tracks only.)

* Crazy Bitch
Buckcherry
[Eleven Seven Music]

* Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Nine Inch Nails
Track from: With Teeth
[nothing/Interscope Records]

* Lonely Day
System Of A Down
Track from: Hypnotize
[American/Columbia]

* Vicarious
Tool
Track from: 10,000 Days
[Volcano/Zomba Label Group]

* Woman
Wolfmother
Track from: Wolfmother
[Modular/Interscope Records]
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* Lonely Day
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Track from: Hypnotize
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Lolz.
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"Lonely Day" is the worst song I've ever heard. Jesus.
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"Lonely Day" is the worst song I've ever heard. Jesus.
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Tool is definitely gonna win both those categories. Yea that is sorta coming from a fanboy, but compared to the other shit listed there, come on.
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Tool is definitely gonna win both those categories. Yea that is sorta coming from a fanboy, but compared to the other shit listed there, come on.
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NIN or Buckcherry will win. These things are not based on merit.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:21 PM   #69
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Re: Tool Nominated for 2 Grammys

NIN or Buckcherry will win. These things are not based on merit.
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* Crazy Bitch
Buckcherry
[Eleven Seven Music]

this song is the most fucking overated shit i ever experienced in my life as a radio listener, i swear, everytime i'd turn on the radio that song was on.......

* Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Nine Inch Nails
Track from: With Teeth
[nothing/Interscope Records]

this is agood song.....i don't know it could've been performed by ashlee simpson easily

* Lonely Day
System Of A Down
Track from: Hypnotize
[American/Columbia]

as a SOAD fan, i feel terribly disappointed with this track, it sucks ass like its album.
* Vicarious
Tool
Track from: 10,000 Days
[Volcano/Zomba Label Group]
An the winner is.......this is oviously the best song among all, this song deserves the damn rock n' roll hall of fame. it needs to win
* Woman
Wolfmother
Track from: Wolfmother
[Modular/Interscope Records][/QUOTE]
if tool does not win this category, i will be satisfied if wolfmother does, this band really kicks ass.
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Re: Tool Nominated for 2 Grammys

* Crazy Bitch
Buckcherry
[Eleven Seven Music]

this song is the most fucking overated shit i ever experienced in my life as a radio listener, i swear, everytime i'd turn on the radio that song was on.......

* Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Nine Inch Nails
Track from: With Teeth
[nothing/Interscope Records]

this is agood song.....i don't know it could've been performed by ashlee simpson easily

* Lonely Day
System Of A Down
Track from: Hypnotize
[American/Columbia]

as a SOAD fan, i feel terribly disappointed with this track, it sucks ass like its album.
* Vicarious
Tool
Track from: 10,000 Days
[Volcano/Zomba Label Group]
An the winner is.......this is oviously the best song among all, this song deserves the damn rock n' roll hall of fame. it needs to win
* Woman
Wolfmother
Track from: Wolfmother
[Modular/Interscope Records][/QUOTE]
if tool does not win this category, i will be satisfied if wolfmother does, this band really kicks ass.
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It means tool win, they stay true to themselves the fans and the music and still excel within the mainstream musical scene in every way.
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It means tool win, they stay true to themselves the fans and the music and still excel within the mainstream musical scene in every way.
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It would be nice to see them get a grammy, compared to the other songs nominated they deserve to win, but a lot of politics go into winning those awards.
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Re: Tool Nominated for 2 Grammys

It would be nice to see them get a grammy, compared to the other songs nominated they deserve to win, but a lot of politics go into winning those awards.
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they have a pretty good track record when it comes to winning these useless peices of scrap metal
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they have a pretty good track record when it comes to winning these useless peices of scrap metal
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cd packaging?

what a worthless category.
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cd packaging?

what a worthless category.
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"Lonely Day" is the worst song I've ever heard. Jesus.
yeah that's quite right.. goddamn.
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"Lonely Day" is the worst song I've ever heard. Jesus.
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based on track record Tool will win, Wolfmother would have a chance at best new act but not this one. Tool are too well liked in the industry, they will get sentimental vote.
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based on track record Tool will win, Wolfmother would have a chance at best new act but not this one. Tool are too well liked in the industry, they will get sentimental vote.
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i think they win both...
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i think they win both...
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cd packaging/album art has been a category for a long time now.
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cd packaging/album art has been a category for a long time now.
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album art is the same category?

shouldn't have renamed it.
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album art is the same category?

shouldn't have renamed it.
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yeah but it's the grammy's. i'm not at all surprised that they did.
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yeah but it's the grammy's. i'm not at all surprised that they did.
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