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I hope the next album saves my life
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i asked for that with 10,000 days and look wut we got.
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fair enough! haha
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This thread makes my balls ache. Makes me reminisce about the days before 10kD info dropped. All that Teleincision bullshit. Waiting is almost the best part.
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This thread makes my balls ache. Makes me reminisce about the days before 10kD info dropped. All that Teleincision bullshit. Waiting is almost the best part.
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i'm fast reading everything, and it looked like you said your balls dropped and that wasnt even the best part.
idk, I gotta get high before I come here.
also, as much as I'd like to think the next album will kick ass, I'm betting it will be just OK 10kdays comparable material, if even that good.
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i'm fast reading everything, and it looked like you said your balls dropped and that wasnt even the best part.
idk, I gotta get high before I come here.
also, as much as I'd like to think the next album will kick ass, I'm betting it will be just OK 10kdays comparable material, if even that good.
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I see what you did there
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I see what you did there
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Balldropalus, or Ball Dropping Days.
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Remember when 10kdays was leaked and everybody thought it was a decoy album because it was, well, shit. And then turned out that it wasn't? Good times.
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d00d just listen to it... right in two and rosetta stoned were obviously just cut and paste mixes of previous tracks. THAT ONE PART SOUNDED LIKE H AND THAT OTHER PART SOUNDED LIKE THIRD EYE = DECOY
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or just shitty writing. Stay on topic, we were talking about my ballsack.
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or just shitty writing. Stay on topic, we were talking about my ballsack.
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is it hairy? can i use it as a wig?
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I shave an awesome mohawk into it, like right down the seam of the sack. You could use it as a pushbroom or a speedbag, alternately.
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I shave an awesome mohawk into it, like right down the seam of the sack. You could use it as a pushbroom or a speedbag, alternately.
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03-06-2011, 04:53 PM
I am still waiting for 10,000 Days vinyl...
Me and my roommate had a Lateralus listening party yesterday. Good stuff.
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I am still waiting for 10,000 Days vinyl...
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I am still waiting for 10,000 Days vinyl...
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I am still waiting for 10,000 Days vinyl...
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I am still waiting for 10,000 Days vinyl...
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I am still waiting for 10,000 Days vinyl...
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LOL i remember after 10kd came out some douches actually thought that sound near the end of Right in Two was a clip from south park yelling "TIMMMMEH!" and therefore the entire album was a hoax.
good times.
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LOL i remember after 10kd came out some douches actually thought that sound near the end of Right in Two was a clip from south park yelling "TIMMMMEH!" and therefore the entire album was a hoax.
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hahahaahaahahahahah jesus I forgot about that.
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hahahaahaahahahahah jesus I forgot about that.
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LOL i remember after 10kd came out some douches actually thought that sound near the end of Right in Two was a clip from south park yelling "TIMMMMEH!" and therefore the entire album was a hoax.
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LOL i remember after 10kd came out some douches actually thought that sound near the end of Right in Two was a clip from south park yelling "TIMMMMEH!" and therefore the entire album was a hoax.
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who said anything about techno electronic shit? i'm not talking about rave music here, and i'm not even talking about electronically-dominated music; just more electronic "embellishment" and some nice soundscapes to look forward to
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who said anything about techno electronic shit? i'm not talking about rave music here, and i'm not even talking about electronically-dominated music; just more electronic "embellishment" and some nice soundscapes to look forward to
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What I meant to describe is how the lyrics on their last album seem to differ in two ways from previous albums (mostly Lateralus). Lyrics from Lateralus and Aenima do seem a bit deeper to me. The primary culprit on 10,000 days here is "Vicarious." I was never too thrilled about a song that, to me, seemed to be self explanatory and about people enjoying violence (from a distance, etc.). This struck me as a rather mundane and cliched observation. 10,000 days and wings also rub me the wrong way for this reason. I understand that the events that inspired the tracks are very significant to the lyricist, but they are not the type of lyrics that made me love Tool. When it comes to Tool lyrics, I have always loved them because they were often vaguely and cryptically about subjects which I had never heard brought up in rock music. These two songs are by no means superficial, but relative to what I expect from Tool, they did not strike me as profound. I was certainly not inspired to think about anything in a deep manner by these songs.
Vicarious, 10,000 days, and wings also share the quality of being much less cryptic than most Tool lyrics, in my opinion. I'm not the type of person who obsesses over finding the meanings of Tool songs. What I actually enjoy about songs like those that Tool put out on Aenima/Lateralus is that they are typically not clearly about a specific thing. They are a little more abstract at times and can be interpreted many ways. This allows me to listen to the song and paint a general sort of picture with selected words, phrases, vocal style, instrumentation, etc. With some of the tracks on 10,000 days, the meaning was kind of out in the open, and I enjoyed the songs much less as a result of this.
In a way, lyrics are probably the part of the song that can be most hit-or-miss for me. I thoroughly enjoy a good singer, but self explanatory lyrics or lyrics that make a very clear message can force me to feel a certain way about a song and it's message. For that reason, I prefer lyrics that have a loose theme that works with the song, but do not make a very direct point. Tool has almost always done this for me, but they failed to do so on a few songs from 10,000 days. Even when you can get a very strong idea about what a song is about (for example, eulogy), it is still vague enough to let the listener fill in the gaps with their own experiences, and even interpret the song as having a number of different tones. With Vicarious and 10k/wings, there is not a whole lot that is open for interpretation. You could pretty much read the lyrics and be filled in on the entire story that inspired them and what the singer wants you to feel. It makes the songs less personal to me.
If my explanation of why I disliked the lyrics was a bit confusing, I apologize. I didn't quite figure out where I was going with my comment until I had almost finished typing it, at which point I was really hitting on a different subject. I didn't really feel the urge to go back and make a more cohesive statement.
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What I meant to describe is how the lyrics on their last album seem to differ in two ways from previous albums (mostly Lateralus). Lyrics from Lateralus and Aenima do seem a bit deeper to me. The primary culprit on 10,000 days here is "Vicarious." I was never too thrilled about a song that, to me, seemed to be self explanatory and about people enjoying violence (from a distance, etc.). This struck me as a rather mundane and cliched observation. 10,000 days and wings also rub me the wrong way for this reason. I understand that the events that inspired the tracks are very significant to the lyricist, but they are not the type of lyrics that made me love Tool. When it comes to Tool lyrics, I have always loved them because they were often vaguely and cryptically about subjects which I had never heard brought up in rock music. These two songs are by no means superficial, but relative to what I expect from Tool, they did not strike me as profound. I was certainly not inspired to think about anything in a deep manner by these songs.
Vicarious, 10,000 days, and wings also share the quality of being much less cryptic than most Tool lyrics, in my opinion. I'm not the type of person who obsesses over finding the meanings of Tool songs. What I actually enjoy about songs like those that Tool put out on Aenima/Lateralus is that they are typically not clearly about a specific thing. They are a little more abstract at times and can be interpreted many ways. This allows me to listen to the song and paint a general sort of picture with selected words, phrases, vocal style, instrumentation, etc. With some of the tracks on 10,000 days, the meaning was kind of out in the open, and I enjoyed the songs much less as a result of this.
In a way, lyrics are probably the part of the song that can be most hit-or-miss for me. I thoroughly enjoy a good singer, but self explanatory lyrics or lyrics that make a very clear message can force me to feel a certain way about a song and it's message. For that reason, I prefer lyrics that have a loose theme that works with the song, but do not make a very direct point. Tool has almost always done this for me, but they failed to do so on a few songs from 10,000 days. Even when you can get a very strong idea about what a song is about (for example, eulogy), it is still vague enough to let the listener fill in the gaps with their own experiences, and even interpret the song as having a number of different tones. With Vicarious and 10k/wings, there is not a whole lot that is open for interpretation. You could pretty much read the lyrics and be filled in on the entire story that inspired them and what the singer wants you to feel. It makes the songs less personal to me.
If my explanation of why I disliked the lyrics was a bit confusing, I apologize. I didn't quite figure out where I was going with my comment until I had almost finished typing it, at which point I was really hitting on a different subject. I didn't really feel the urge to go back and make a more cohesive statement.
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Well, the thought of "electronic embellishment" doesn't sound good either...but I suppose it all depends on what they do and how they incorporate it
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Well, the thought of "electronic embellishment" doesn't sound good either...but I suppose it all depends on what they do and how they incorporate it
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Well, I guess to be honest I didn't realize they were in any song other than Intension...or at least it's definitely a much less subtle approach. In short, it sounds fine in all except Intension...I thought it sounded cheap and too far from who they are...this is Tool, not Aphex Twin
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Well, I guess to be honest I didn't realize they were in any song other than Intension...or at least it's definitely a much less subtle approach. In short, it sounds fine in all except Intension...I thought it sounded cheap and too far from who they are...this is Tool, not Aphex Twin
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intension doesn't sound a fucking thing like an aphex twin song
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intension doesn't sound a fucking thing like an aphex twin song
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To me, the electonica aspect of it does and that's my opinion...no differently than you having your own opinion. All I'm saying is I don't like it mixed into a Tool song...you do like it, so what? They're just opinions, get over it.
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ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. The song as a whole, no. But I can hear some similarities, as IE said, in the electronic percussion toward the end. Although I never thought that before.... Just really listening for it now.
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ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. The song as a whole, no. But I can hear some similarities, as IE said, in the electronic percussion toward the end. Although I never thought that before.... Just really listening for it now.
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Yep. Screw all you haters.
On topic of 10,000 Days and its lyrical content:
I know this will stir some shit up but, I find the album and its lyrics to be very deep, possibly the band's heaviest material. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like previous album's because of their mysterious/thought provoking lyrics (and I agree), but I think a lot of these songs make the most sense to Maynard in his own drug-induced mind.
10,000 Days may come across a little more direct, but I think the think the topics of human intent, emotion and behavior leave your mind a little more to think about than buttfucking and "opening your third eye".
Nothing against Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, or Lateralus, but I hope the band keeps moving in the 10,000 Day direction. I like it, a lot.
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Re: New Tool Album
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Yep. Screw all you haters.
On topic of 10,000 Days and its lyrical content:
I know this will stir some shit up but, I find the album and its lyrics to be very deep, possibly the band's heaviest material. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like previous album's because of their mysterious/thought provoking lyrics (and I agree), but I think a lot of these songs make the most sense to Maynard in his own drug-induced mind.
10,000 Days may come across a little more direct, but I think the think the topics of human intent, emotion and behavior leave your mind a little more to think about than buttfucking and "opening your third eye".
Nothing against Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, or Lateralus, but I hope the band keeps moving in the 10,000 Day direction. I like it, a lot.
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03-08-2011, 03:51 PM
Oh, and I think Justin should be voted as the band's captain. He's on a fucking roll and only building momentum. Not to mention seems like he gives "the most shit" about Tool in recent.
Go Justin, lead the way now
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Re: New Tool Album
Oh, and I think Justin should be voted as the band's captain. He's on a fucking roll and only building momentum. Not to mention seems like he gives "the most shit" about Tool in recent.
Go Justin, lead the way now
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03-08-2011, 03:57 PM
i don't have much of a problem with the lyrics on 10, 000 days. the lyrics to jambi are beautiful, and rosetta stoned is brilliant in a way only tool can deliver.
i do have a problem with how stale 10,000 days sounds, how i end up skipping wings i and ii and the pot most listens, how rosetta is 2/3 dull and 1/3 fucking incredible, and how right in two's lyrics just sound silly now.
10, 000 days is like a typical alex grey painting - a lot of fluff that's fun at first, but when the fluff wears off you realize there's not a whole lot of substance underneath
jambi and intension are among the best songs in tool's catalogue, though
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Re: New Tool Album
i don't have much of a problem with the lyrics on 10, 000 days. the lyrics to jambi are beautiful, and rosetta stoned is brilliant in a way only tool can deliver.
i do have a problem with how stale 10,000 days sounds, how i end up skipping wings i and ii and the pot most listens, how rosetta is 2/3 dull and 1/3 fucking incredible, and how right in two's lyrics just sound silly now.
10, 000 days is like a typical alex grey painting - a lot of fluff that's fun at first, but when the fluff wears off you realize there's not a whole lot of substance underneath
jambi and intension are among the best songs in tool's catalogue, though
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03-08-2011, 09:12 PM
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ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. The song as a whole, no. But I can hear some similarities, as IE said, in the electronic percussion toward the end. Although I never thought that before.... Just really listening for it now.
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Agreed, that was my point...not the song as a whole by all means...but definitely the electronica part of it made me think of Aphex Twin...which is possibly also my only personal reference to electronica type stuff....which, I would NOT like Tool to emulate
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Re: New Tool Album
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ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. The song as a whole, no. But I can hear some similarities, as IE said, in the electronic percussion toward the end. Although I never thought that before.... Just really listening for it now.
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Agreed, that was my point...not the song as a whole by all means...but definitely the electronica part of it made me think of Aphex Twin...which is possibly also my only personal reference to electronica type stuff....which, I would NOT like Tool to emulate
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03-08-2011, 09:17 PM
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Yep. Screw all you haters.
On topic of 10,000 Days and its lyrical content:
I know this will stir some shit up but, I find the album and its lyrics to be very deep, possibly the band's heaviest material. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like previous album's because of their mysterious/thought provoking lyrics (and I agree), but I think a lot of these songs make the most sense to Maynard in his own drug-induced mind.
10,000 Days may come across a little more direct, but I think the think the topics of human intent, emotion and behavior leave your mind a little more to think about than buttfucking and "opening your third eye".
Nothing against Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, or Lateralus, but I hope the band keeps moving in the 10,000 Day direction. I like it, a lot.
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It goes both ways, it truly does...and you're right....but I think their strongest suit IS in keeping that open ended multi layered artistic direction. I also like 10k Days but I also agree that it just felt like something was missing. It's like buying a brand new Ferrari but not washing it for 6mos...sure, it's a fucking Ferrari...but it's lost it's shine.
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Re: New Tool Album
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Yep. Screw all you haters.
On topic of 10,000 Days and its lyrical content:
I know this will stir some shit up but, I find the album and its lyrics to be very deep, possibly the band's heaviest material. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like previous album's because of their mysterious/thought provoking lyrics (and I agree), but I think a lot of these songs make the most sense to Maynard in his own drug-induced mind.
10,000 Days may come across a little more direct, but I think the think the topics of human intent, emotion and behavior leave your mind a little more to think about than buttfucking and "opening your third eye".
Nothing against Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, or Lateralus, but I hope the band keeps moving in the 10,000 Day direction. I like it, a lot.
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It goes both ways, it truly does...and you're right....but I think their strongest suit IS in keeping that open ended multi layered artistic direction. I also like 10k Days but I also agree that it just felt like something was missing. It's like buying a brand new Ferrari but not washing it for 6mos...sure, it's a fucking Ferrari...but it's lost it's shine.
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03-08-2011, 11:04 PM
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have you noticed the similar use of electronic drums in TMV's "copernicus?"
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the reason these drums and the drums in intension and something you may have heard in an aphex twin song sound similar is because that's just how drum synth hi hats sound.. if you listen to some squarepusher or autechre or even my music ( *shameless self promotion*) you'll probably hear similar things..
that part of intension always sounds to me like someone is playing a drum pad like a tabla.. so i guess i hear more tabla than electronic influence..
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Re: New Tool Album
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have you noticed the similar use of electronic drums in TMV's "copernicus?"
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the reason these drums and the drums in intension and something you may have heard in an aphex twin song sound similar is because that's just how drum synth hi hats sound.. if you listen to some squarepusher or autechre or even my music ( *shameless self promotion*) you'll probably hear similar things..
that part of intension always sounds to me like someone is playing a drum pad like a tabla.. so i guess i hear more tabla than electronic influence..
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Yep. Screw all you haters.
On topic of 10,000 Days and its lyrical content:
I know this will stir some shit up but, I find the album and its lyrics to be very deep, possibly the band's heaviest material. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like previous album's because of their mysterious/thought provoking lyrics (and I agree), but I think a lot of these songs make the most sense to Maynard in his own drug-induced mind.
10,000 Days may come across a little more direct, but I think the think the topics of human intent, emotion and behavior leave your mind a little more to think about than buttfucking and "opening your third eye".
Nothing against Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, or Lateralus, but I hope the band keeps moving in the 10,000 Day direction. I like it, a lot.
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10,000 days is their most sincere album, I think. In previous ones they were just too angry (not a gripe, just sayin'), too conceited, or too goddamn spiritual - and the mood was determined by maynardo, me thinks. hence, this post:
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Originally Posted by theamazingtool
Oh, and I think Justin should be voted as the band's captain. He's on a fucking roll and only building momentum. Not to mention seems like he gives "the most shit" about Tool in recent.
Go Justin, lead the way now
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makes me grin. (in a good way of course)
how do you figure he's "on a roll" and "building momentum"?
03-09-2011, 02:41 AM
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Re: New Tool Album
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Originally Posted by theamazingtool
Yep. Screw all you haters.
On topic of 10,000 Days and its lyrical content:
I know this will stir some shit up but, I find the album and its lyrics to be very deep, possibly the band's heaviest material. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like previous album's because of their mysterious/thought provoking lyrics (and I agree), but I think a lot of these songs make the most sense to Maynard in his own drug-induced mind.
10,000 Days may come across a little more direct, but I think the think the topics of human intent, emotion and behavior leave your mind a little more to think about than buttfucking and "opening your third eye".
Nothing against Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, or Lateralus, but I hope the band keeps moving in the 10,000 Day direction. I like it, a lot.
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10,000 days is their most sincere album, I think. In previous ones they were just too angry (not a gripe, just sayin'), too conceited, or too goddamn spiritual - and the mood was determined by maynardo, me thinks. hence, this post:
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Originally Posted by theamazingtool
Oh, and I think Justin should be voted as the band's captain. He's on a fucking roll and only building momentum. Not to mention seems like he gives "the most shit" about Tool in recent.
Go Justin, lead the way now
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makes me grin. (in a good way of course)
how do you figure he's "on a roll" and "building momentum"?
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03-09-2011, 04:41 AM
Justin is the man! On AEnima you can hear him experimenting, on Lateralus he's the author of some of the coolest riffs on the album (most notably, "Schism") and on 10.000 Days the man rules the groove absolutely! Along with Danny they build a great foundation, their lines fit each other so nicely. He is getting more and more powerful when it comes to rhythmic nuances (the 5 over 6 groove around 7th minute from Rosetta Stoned is mostly his idea) and he does magic collaborating with Adam and Danny (intro to "Vicarious", all the riffs from "The Pot"). He continues his research in weird guitar FX hardware.. I definitely believe in his creativity, he's definitely, like someone here said "a star on strings". In his playing one can hear that he's not afraid to face and cross his limits.
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Justin is the man! On AEnima you can hear him experimenting, on Lateralus he's the author of some of the coolest riffs on the album (most notably, "Schism") and on 10.000 Days the man rules the groove absolutely! Along with Danny they build a great foundation, their lines fit each other so nicely. He is getting more and more powerful when it comes to rhythmic nuances (the 5 over 6 groove around 7th minute from Rosetta Stoned is mostly his idea) and he does magic collaborating with Adam and Danny (intro to "Vicarious", all the riffs from "The Pot"). He continues his research in weird guitar FX hardware.. I definitely believe in his creativity, he's definitely, like someone here said "a star on strings". In his playing one can hear that he's not afraid to face and cross his limits.
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i didnt know all these things. most i had noticed was how he worked his ass off on wings for marie... :-o
thanks for the heads up
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i didnt know all these things. most i had noticed was how he worked his ass off on wings for marie... :-o
thanks for the heads up
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03-09-2011, 08:48 AM
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the reason these drums and the drums in intension and something you may have heard in an aphex twin song sound similar is because that's just how drum synth hi hats sound.. if you listen to some squarepusher or autechre or even my music ( *shameless self promotion*) you'll probably hear similar things..
that part of intension always sounds to me like someone is playing a drum pad like a tabla.. so i guess i hear more tabla than electronic influence..
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After giving Copernicus a listen, I kind of started to feel like its all a matter of perspective. Certainly Aphex Twin, Tool and Mars Volta sound nothing alike. While the use of synth drums sounds 'similar', if given context, it fits the situation.
I guess that'd be like saying, this guitarist sounds like that guitarist because they both use LPs with marshall amp/cabs and play with a lot of unison bends. They might both have a similar playing style, yet their composition could be wholly different.
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Re: New Tool Album
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Originally Posted by bogsnarth
the reason these drums and the drums in intension and something you may have heard in an aphex twin song sound similar is because that's just how drum synth hi hats sound.. if you listen to some squarepusher or autechre or even my music ( *shameless self promotion*) you'll probably hear similar things..
that part of intension always sounds to me like someone is playing a drum pad like a tabla.. so i guess i hear more tabla than electronic influence..
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After giving Copernicus a listen, I kind of started to feel like its all a matter of perspective. Certainly Aphex Twin, Tool and Mars Volta sound nothing alike. While the use of synth drums sounds 'similar', if given context, it fits the situation.
I guess that'd be like saying, this guitarist sounds like that guitarist because they both use LPs with marshall amp/cabs and play with a lot of unison bends. They might both have a similar playing style, yet their composition could be wholly different.
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