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05-09-2006, 10:18 AM
I was thinking about Aenima and how it ended on a somewhat more subtle note than it started, as did Undertow, as did Opiate, as did Lateralus. So I decided to switch around the order of songs on 10,000 Days with a similar concept. Tell me what you think.
1 - Vicarious
2 - The Pot
3 - Jambi
4 - Lipan Conjuring
5 - Lost Keys
6 - Rosetta Stoned
7 - Intension
8 - Right in Two
9 - Vigniti Tres
10 - Wings for Marie, Pt. I
11 - 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. II)
Just to clarify, I found that 10,000 Days was a better finish, with the last line being "It's time for you to bring me home". Also, I chose to use the 'filler' on the album as seques, a la Aenima. As I found Vigniti Tres to be filler, I chose to use it as a seque into the Wings series.
Try playing it this way, and give me some feedback.
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A New Order for 10kD
I was thinking about Aenima and how it ended on a somewhat more subtle note than it started, as did Undertow, as did Opiate, as did Lateralus. So I decided to switch around the order of songs on 10,000 Days with a similar concept. Tell me what you think.
1 - Vicarious
2 - The Pot
3 - Jambi
4 - Lipan Conjuring
5 - Lost Keys
6 - Rosetta Stoned
7 - Intension
8 - Right in Two
9 - Vigniti Tres
10 - Wings for Marie, Pt. I
11 - 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. II)
Just to clarify, I found that 10,000 Days was a better finish, with the last line being "It's time for you to bring me home". Also, I chose to use the 'filler' on the album as seques, a la Aenima. As I found Vigniti Tres to be filler, I chose to use it as a seque into the Wings series.
Try playing it this way, and give me some feedback.
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No. Just... no.
EDIT: I jumped the gun. It kinda makes sense.
I'll try it.
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05-09-2006, 10:21 AM
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
No. Just... no.
EDIT: I jumped the gun. It kinda makes sense.
I'll try it.
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05-09-2006, 10:22 AM
Clearly you have a closed mind.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
Clearly you have a closed mind.
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05-09-2006, 10:25 AM
Whoops, I meant to have Intension before Right in Two. Sorry.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
Whoops, I meant to have Intension before Right in Two. Sorry.
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05-09-2006, 10:26 AM
im happy with the order of the album as it is.
if you are happy with your order fine, why post about it? there are others floating around, post in there.
you will only get slated otherwise.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
im happy with the order of the album as it is.
if you are happy with your order fine, why post about it? there are others floating around, post in there.
you will only get slated otherwise.
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05-09-2006, 10:48 AM
i like starting with lost keys/rosetta right after i finish lateralus...the blend from faaip is gold
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
i like starting with lost keys/rosetta right after i finish lateralus...the blend from faaip is gold
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05-09-2006, 10:49 AM
I'm happy with the order as it is, but I was just experimenting.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
I'm happy with the order as it is, but I was just experimenting.
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05-09-2006, 10:52 AM
i dunno if i like the actual album order, i think vignit tres should go before intension. The album is sooo good but i think if they had done that, then it would be perfect. There's so much good music, but then it just ends with "UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH". And, there's totally nothing wrong with "UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH," but it's a bad way to end the album. Faaip was different because it was actually interesting with some good content to it and closed out really nicely. But this one just kinda goes "UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH".
"UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH!!"
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
i dunno if i like the actual album order, i think vignit tres should go before intension. The album is sooo good but i think if they had done that, then it would be perfect. There's so much good music, but then it just ends with "UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH". And, there's totally nothing wrong with "UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH," but it's a bad way to end the album. Faaip was different because it was actually interesting with some good content to it and closed out really nicely. But this one just kinda goes "UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH".
"UUUUHHHHHHNNNHHHHNHHHHHHH!!"
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05-09-2006, 11:02 AM
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i like starting with lost keys/rosetta right after i finish lateralus...the blend from faaip is gold
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Not to mention that LK/RS is such a badass way to start an album. Of course, since the song actually has a story of sorts, if they put it as the first two tracks, people would probably make the assumption that it's a concept album. You know what I mean?
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
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i like starting with lost keys/rosetta right after i finish lateralus...the blend from faaip is gold
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Not to mention that LK/RS is such a badass way to start an album. Of course, since the song actually has a story of sorts, if they put it as the first two tracks, people would probably make the assumption that it's a concept album. You know what I mean?
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05-09-2006, 11:49 AM
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Not to mention that LK/RS is such a badass way to start an album. Of course, since the song actually has a story of sorts, if they put it as the first two tracks, people would probably make the assumption that it's a concept album. You know what I mean?
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good point
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
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Not to mention that LK/RS is such a badass way to start an album. Of course, since the song actually has a story of sorts, if they put it as the first two tracks, people would probably make the assumption that it's a concept album. You know what I mean?
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05-09-2006, 12:24 PM
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Not to mention that LK/RS is such a badass way to start an album. Of course, since the song actually has a story of sorts, if they put it as the first two tracks, people would probably make the assumption that it's a concept album. You know what I mean?
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yes i agree as well, i can definately see why they chose the listings as they did...i think it's fucking awesome that they are opening shows with LK/RS and can't wait until philly
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Not to mention that LK/RS is such a badass way to start an album. Of course, since the song actually has a story of sorts, if they put it as the first two tracks, people would probably make the assumption that it's a concept album. You know what I mean?
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yes i agree as well, i can definately see why they chose the listings as they did...i think it's fucking awesome that they are opening shows with LK/RS and can't wait until philly
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05-09-2006, 12:36 PM
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I'm happy with the order as it is, but I was just experimenting.
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here is one for you.
stick it in your cd player, on shuffle.
and see what that brings.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
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I'm happy with the order as it is, but I was just experimenting.
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here is one for you.
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05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
There's something like 3 threads now, devoted to this topic (switching the order). I haven't tried it yet, but I think this will be my order (slight spoiler for live setlist)
1. Lost Keys
2. Rosetta Stoned (these two are how they open their shows now)
3. Lipan Conjuring
4. The Pot
5. Jambi
6. Vicarious
7. Wings 1
8. 10000 Days (Wings 2)
9. Intension
10. Right in Two
11. Viginti Tres
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
There's something like 3 threads now, devoted to this topic (switching the order). I haven't tried it yet, but I think this will be my order (slight spoiler for live setlist)
1. Lost Keys
2. Rosetta Stoned (these two are how they open their shows now)
3. Lipan Conjuring
4. The Pot
5. Jambi
6. Vicarious
7. Wings 1
8. 10000 Days (Wings 2)
9. Intension
10. Right in Two
11. Viginti Tres
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Jambi
Vicarious
Lipon Conjuring
The Pot
Intension
Right In Two
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Wings for Marie (10,000 Days pt. 1)
10,000 Days (Wings pt. 2)
Viginti Tres
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
Jambi
Vicarious
Lipon Conjuring
The Pot
Intension
Right In Two
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Wings for Marie (10,000 Days pt. 1)
10,000 Days (Wings pt. 2)
Viginti Tres
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I Honestly Prefer the Way Tool Ordered It...
I Like How It Startz Out Hard With Vicarious and Jambi, Then Becomez More Somber With Wingz Pt 1, Jumpz With Wingz Pt 2 and The Pot, Seguez In 2 Lipan Conjuring, and Iz Melodic Throughout the Rest of the Album...
Itz Alwayz Interstin 2 Come Up With Yr Own Song Order, But I Juzt Like the Way Tool Did It Thiz Time Around...
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
I Honestly Prefer the Way Tool Ordered It...
I Like How It Startz Out Hard With Vicarious and Jambi, Then Becomez More Somber With Wingz Pt 1, Jumpz With Wingz Pt 2 and The Pot, Seguez In 2 Lipan Conjuring, and Iz Melodic Throughout the Rest of the Album...
Itz Alwayz Interstin 2 Come Up With Yr Own Song Order, But I Juzt Like the Way Tool Did It Thiz Time Around...
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here is one for you.
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No doubt
05-09-2006, 05:07 PM
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
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here is one for you.
stick it in your cd player, on shuffle.
and see what that brings.
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05-09-2006, 07:17 PM
While I love the current order of the actual disc, one I found interesting (and which I did burn & used to listen to prior to purchasing the actual disc), goes as follows:
>Wings for Marie
>Jambi
>Lipan Conjuring
>The Pot
>Intension
>Right in Two
>Vicarious
>Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
>Rosetta Stoned
>10,000 Days
>Viginti Tres
I found that starting the album with Wings(pt1) allowed for a much smoother 'building' into the disc itself, and also that splitting the entire song ('right in two', heh), by starting with pt.1 and ending with pt.2, gave the album a more 'complete' feel, by bringing back a similar structure & emotion towards the end. Also, I enjoyed having Vicarious about half way through, as it's somewhat more of an easier song to just play and understand, and it gave the album a steadiness and helped me reach a middle-ground around the middle of the album :P. Oh, and Lipan Conjuring really warms me up well for The Pot. I mean, it's not an entirely smooth transaction, but both songs sort of build a similar emotion for me, and I thought these two "stand-out tracks", if you will, actually fit quite well together :).
Anywho. Just my 2-cents. Enjoy listening and discovering :)
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
While I love the current order of the actual disc, one I found interesting (and which I did burn & used to listen to prior to purchasing the actual disc), goes as follows:
>Wings for Marie
>Jambi
>Lipan Conjuring
>The Pot
>Intension
>Right in Two
>Vicarious
>Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
>Rosetta Stoned
>10,000 Days
>Viginti Tres
I found that starting the album with Wings(pt1) allowed for a much smoother 'building' into the disc itself, and also that splitting the entire song ('right in two', heh), by starting with pt.1 and ending with pt.2, gave the album a more 'complete' feel, by bringing back a similar structure & emotion towards the end. Also, I enjoyed having Vicarious about half way through, as it's somewhat more of an easier song to just play and understand, and it gave the album a steadiness and helped me reach a middle-ground around the middle of the album :P. Oh, and Lipan Conjuring really warms me up well for The Pot. I mean, it's not an entirely smooth transaction, but both songs sort of build a similar emotion for me, and I thought these two "stand-out tracks", if you will, actually fit quite well together :).
Anywho. Just my 2-cents. Enjoy listening and discovering :)
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the music should have been so much better. so the song order really cant improve things that much.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
the music should have been so much better. so the song order really cant improve things that much.
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05-09-2006, 10:19 PM
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the music should have been so much better. so the song order really cant improve things that much.
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I agree.
However, because of the sheer beauty of the unknown in Rosetta Stoned, I submit the only alternative considerable for me.
1. Vicarious
2. Jambi
3. Wings for Marie
4. 10,000 Days
5. The Pot
6. Lipan Conjuring
7. Intension
8. Right in Two
9. Lost Keys (I)
10. Rosetta Stoned (II)
11. Viginti Tres (III)
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
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the music should have been so much better. so the song order really cant improve things that much.
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I agree.
However, because of the sheer beauty of the unknown in Rosetta Stoned, I submit the only alternative considerable for me.
1. Vicarious
2. Jambi
3. Wings for Marie
4. 10,000 Days
5. The Pot
6. Lipan Conjuring
7. Intension
8. Right in Two
9. Lost Keys (I)
10. Rosetta Stoned (II)
11. Viginti Tres (III)
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05-09-2006, 10:46 PM
I think the only problem I have with it is viginti tres. I don't think it should be last.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
I think the only problem I have with it is viginti tres. I don't think it should be last.
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I Honestly Prefer the Way Tool Ordered It...
I Like How It Startz Out Hard With Vicarious and Jambi, Then Becomez More Somber With Wingz Pt 1, Jumpz With Wingz Pt 2 and The Pot, Seguez In 2 Lipan Conjuring, and Iz Melodic Throughout the Rest of the Album...
Itz Alwayz Interstin 2 Come Up With Yr Own Song Order, But I Juzt Like the Way Tool Did It Thiz Time Around...
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Your really annoying to read.
i like the order. Its nice to finish with intention, right in two and viginti tres, it means i can leave it on while sleeping and have some more awesome dreams.
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Re: A New Order for 10kD
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Originally Posted by K In Yo Mouf
I Honestly Prefer the Way Tool Ordered It...
I Like How It Startz Out Hard With Vicarious and Jambi, Then Becomez More Somber With Wingz Pt 1, Jumpz With Wingz Pt 2 and The Pot, Seguez In 2 Lipan Conjuring, and Iz Melodic Throughout the Rest of the Album...
Itz Alwayz Interstin 2 Come Up With Yr Own Song Order, But I Juzt Like the Way Tool Did It Thiz Time Around...
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Your really annoying to read.
i like the order. Its nice to finish with intention, right in two and viginti tres, it means i can leave it on while sleeping and have some more awesome dreams.
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