There will never come a band that will influence my life more than Tool has done. Albeit they are not AS popular as say Led Zepplin but the movement is there. You never see bands anymore these days put in half the dedication into their music as Tool does, nor is the music as good or the message they make. Tool is to me the best band ever created. There is just so much depth to what they do. I would love to shake Maynards hand one day, sip some wine in Sedona and just shoot the shit about any and everything. I wonder if he really is humble in real life and down to earth or is he like fuck you crazy fans, leave me alone.
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In my opinion, I think Maynard's a down to earth guy even if he is clinically insane from all the acid. It takes socializing, exploring, and blending all of your experiences in life to be as smart as him. The dude is clearly on a higher plane.
__________________ "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world." - Merlin, from Excalibur
And I can't begin to understand why anyone would sign on to a Tool site without liking them (especially an opinion page).......except to provoke the ones that love the band to gain attention.
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lol whoa...So now we have to listen to assholes talk down on Tool so we can gain our "Coolness" in the world/TDN? Fuck that dude. Seriously. I like what I like and im not going to listen to any idiot saying that Tool sucks etc on a Tool page. Period. Ill say it again....If you dont like Tool...Why are you here?
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"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Come on guys, basically Tool just helps you "think with your cool" and once you start doing that you have to learn to exercise that like you meditate to exercise your normal brain and then you take things like music from your external self to exercise your cool see?
you musta been high when you wrote this cause i cant understand your form of "English".
You know, there is an albums section dedicated to Tool at least, I don't think there's too much negativity in this section. Then again, I don't spend as much time in here like I used to, so I really don't know.
Rivek, you can't really call someone a noob...unless you're an alias. So what's wrong with that guy? I'm curious about certain people being hated on. It must suck a little bit for them, to sign up for a forum and constantly get picked on.
There are definitely some who are deserving of it...like TGTS, Jarring, Apachana, and many others.
aenema's about the crashing waves of a psychedelic, endogenous, secretions of pineal dimethyltryptamine ...the "flood" of a lachrymose storm. developing a flow into an excited, electrical spark (neg ions) before entering "third eye".
Like I keep trying to tell you guys, pretty much everyone who signed up here liked Tool at one point. Most of us just burned ourselves out on it over a period of years, I still dig em but some didn't make it out with that interest intact.
You listen and listen and spend time on an internet forum about the band hour after hour for years, you tend to get a little burnt out. It's not like they came here looking to bash the subject of the board, they just turned towards bashing it, but don't leave because they know the community.
Agreed man but i just dont like the way people go about stating their opinions on the topic thats all. People need to learn how to relax in here and just have nice conversations instead of unwanted "Keyboard" fights. Seriously its so childish. State your opinion and move on. Plain and Simple. If your burnt on Tool then your burnt on Tool...Can I get BURNT on Tool in peace?
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Rivek, I also agree with you on uriah jones..He is a weird character that does whine alot and brings some strange ideas to the table. I guess thats how he is and im pretty sure he wont change his act.
But then again..I bring some strange ideas to the table as well.
Ive been called "Insane" in here before but I dont mind that. Later.
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Like I keep trying to tell you guys, pretty much everyone who signed up here liked Tool at one point. Most of us just burned ourselves out on it over a period of years, I still dig em but some didn't make it out with that interest intact.
You listen and listen and spend time on an internet forum about the band hour after hour for years, you tend to get a little burnt out. It's not like they came here looking to bash the subject of the board, they just turned towards bashing it, but don't leave because they know the community.
Dude....Rivek.......you've posted that comment before. If you're so burned out on Tool and this forum discussing Tool, then maybe this isn't the right outlet for you. I'm sorry, I don't agree with becoming less interested in the band or their music due to being burned out. This site is for dedicated Tool fans (old and new). And I understand that not everyone likes Tool. In that case, they should be posting only in the socializing threads.
The best attribute this site has is being able to read everyone's interpretations of Tool and how it has affected or changed their lives.
__________________ "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world." - Merlin, from Excalibur
I personally wish there was a little less how it affects or changes our lives and a little more how mushrooms alter how we neurologically perceive masking effects in sounds which allows certain musicians, who may or may not be privy to empirical data regarding the effects of hallucinogens, to hide crazy robot monks chanting and shit in their music for people iwth fucked up brains to go all schizo over.
LOL....
If you can figure that out, please post it. I can't explain the empirical data on hallucinogens either. We need a forum just for that.
__________________ "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world." - Merlin, from Excalibur
But then again..I bring some strange ideas to the table as well.
Ive been called "Insane" in here before but I dont mind that.
*guilty look* hmmm well see, i can explain..... You're nuts lol
Since when was this a 'beat up on uriah jones' thread?
or a 'beat up on the noobs' thread?
Head off to the socializing section or start talking about AEnima (pow!)
Calm down sweetheart..I went through that stage of being called a noob and I am called a noob to this day..so just hold on to your panties...You'll be fine. Mr. Jones is just crazy like me so that is why we love him so much.
Also, Thanks for saying that I am nuts..Everyone in my life tells me that and I just think its the best. I just look at EVERYTHING differently thats all..Does this make me nuts? If so..WORD!
By the way, Master of Nothing to Say...I really fuckin dig your signature...Why the fuck didnt I think of that shit..I Envy you..
Wow...
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
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Everyone is different man..Everyone has different views opinions whatever you wanna call it..thats what makes this wonderful world go around and around...so if im nuts to you or to anyone in here well then im nuts..I personally dont care. I think what I think and I move on.
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Ænema is the best song on Ænima (imo) and its meaning is so obvious I will not comment on it.
Well at least you would think it's obvious. I think my analogy a few posts back hits the nail on the head. Albeit, some people will still try to make it into something else than the "what-should-be-obvious" meaning.
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On the internet, there are newbs, and there are fucking n00bs.
You also forgot the people who are veterans and think they own the place.
Quit beating up on people who call you homeland security/ cop, if its such an unoffensive name, then why are you taking offense? (Chopper Fucking Reid)
By the way T_I_S, if it makes you feel better, Leonardo Da vinci was thought to be nuts too back in his time.
The intriguing (sp?) part about Tool is this: their songs are very straightforward in their meaning and even meant to be straightforward. Yet Maynard's lyrics can be interpreted in many ways in most songs, giving more then once more then only one straightforward meaning. I think he wants people to listen to the meaning they seem most fitting to them.
That didn't make any sense at all. Those are totally opposite statements to say that on one hand the lyrics are "very straightforward" (which I disagree for on most songs) yet on the other hand you're saying it can be interpreted any way seen fit. If anything was so straightforward, there would only be one way to interpret it. Now if lyrics are multi-layered and somewhat vague then they can be interpreted in many ways. Now the drawback to that conclusion is where many of my arguments with others on here arise from is that fact that while the songs/lyrics may be open to more than one interpretation...there are many theories on here that I've seen that are just so far from the truth and are completely irrelevant or downright uneducated (IE: the pot is about the third eye andthe chakra system). There are a few ways you can interpret some songs but, they don't go any further than that.
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On the internet, there are newbs, and there are fucking n00bs.
Newbs are just new members, they grow out of their status eventually, and are treated like little brothers by the established members, for better or worse. Good examples of these are T_I_S and M_O_N.
n00bs are fucking morons who need to stop posting. And it has nothing to do with how long they've been around, nor how many posts they have. Someone could have a 2001 join date and still be a damn n00b if they post the level of low/no-quality bullshit that uriah jones does.
Yes I am a Newb...Im fuckin awesome. haha Thanks dude.
I remember Iota calling me a n00b one day though... :( Im Doomed. I love this place.
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Hidden agendas ,in my opinion, is talking about the people that just use you to get what they want and eventually say "Fuck you I dont need you anymore."
Adding to the conversation- The Smiley Glad Hands part are talking about people who are extremely nice to your face but they stab you in the back every chance they get.
This might be way off to everyones interpretations to those parts but that is what it means to me.
Flush all the bullshit people away from this potenitally awesome world.
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Hidden agendas ,in my opinion, is talking about the people that just use you to get what they want and eventually say "Fuck you I dont need you anymore."
exactly what i see maynard doing...
- "i'll take just what i came for"
- "i need you to feel this, i need this to make me whole"
- "either way, i must say goodbye, you are dead to ME"
hidden agendas.
(the message of hope: "for those who CHOOSE to hear it")
"MEEEEEEEEEE, the chosen ONE.
THEY chose ME."
"it's a choice between love and fear" - hicks
"peace and annihilation" - apc
connected, unconditional, without judgment ...unity
VS. disconnected, self-destructing, ego centric ...lie.
(disharmonic consciousness)
let go. crucify the ego.
pray. learn to swim.
"remember i'll always love you."
remember, "there's no love in fear"
again, that's how i see it.
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I've posted it many times before because nobody seems to get it. Personally, while I've chilled on Tool a lot since a few years ago, I still greatly enjoy them. I'm not burnt out on them myself. But to say that this site is for 'dedicated' Tool fans makes no sense. There was no test to see if anyone knew about the fibonacci connection in the lyrics to Lateralus or how to play the intro noise of Prison Sex on a guitar. I feel the point of this site is to have a community for people with a common interest.
I have to respectfully disagree. The best part of this forum has always been the community, for me. The people here, all of them, truly give me some grins and positive feelings. I can't downplay how much of a factor that is in me pointing my browser to www.toolnavy.com at least once a day.
Hell, through this site I've made friends all over the country, some that I'm planning to chill and smoke with in mid-March. I wouldn't have gotten those kinds of connections without Interact.
Point understood.....however, the common interest that brought you into this forum IS Tool. So, if you want to discuss politics or shaving your nuts....post it in the socializing threads. This section is for album interests.
Also, it's your opinion that this site is for linking up with people all over the world. I actually totally agree that is another awesome attribute, but IMO.....I like to check out how Tool affects other people.........all over the world. So we do have a common interest on what we're doing here after all.
Bottoms up.
__________________ "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world." - Merlin, from Excalibur
Adding to the conversation- The Smiley Glad Hands part are talking about people who are extremely nice to your face but they stab you in the back every chance they get.
Smiley glad hands was a reference to politicians I think but on a general level you are correct
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Adding to the conversation- The Smiley Glad Hands part are talking about people who are extremely nice to your face but they stab you in the back every chance they get.
Smiley glad hands was a reference to politicians I think but on a general level you are correct
Hey Inner if you can find some information about the politicians reference to this part I would be interested. Thanks man.
BTW, Whats up dude? I havent talk to you or seen you post in a while. I guess your a busy man. How are things going with your woman? I hope all is well my friend.
__________________ Hey, Do you have a drinking problem?
"No, I pretty much got it figured out."
Well judging by the way he acts towards his fans, the latter
So Eulogy, I'd suggest you don't show him the tattoo of his face on your ass when you meet him
Yep, somehow I don't think Maynard would get a kick out of meeting his 'big fans' . Its kinda funny and ironic and kinda sad (i dont mean as an insult just sad) how Maynard somehow cops this god status thing, when, from everything put together, it's pretty obvious that is not what he or the band is about.... I dont want to meet maynard but I'm glad he exists and i hope he keeps making music so i can keep listening. And i just noticed how uncomfortable it makes me talking about him like he is the band - hes not the band. There is a shitload of talent there, not just maynard.
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[QUOTE=Rivek;2263385]True, but when I met him, my cousin and I were about as down to earth as we could be about the whole thing, just trying to randomly chat about stuff, and he kinda took the attitude of "I don't want to be in this conversation." I don't know. Maybe life on the road makes him, or is general character is that of, a somewhat private, non-outgoing guy.
Maybe he doesnt like talking to strangers....after all , thats all fans are...strangers. And its kinda wierd i mean people that think they know him cos they listen to his music and want to talk but he doesnt know them - i would be the same. I reckon most famous people that are nice to their fans only do it cos they have to be cos otherwise their fans might realise they have no talent.
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Hey Inner if you can find some information about the politicians reference to this part I would be interested. Thanks man.
BTW, Whats up dude? I havent talk to you or seen you post in a while. I guess your a busy man. How are things going with your woman? I hope all is well my friend.
I've been posted all over everyday, it's what I do everyday during my lunch break after reading the news. Sorry, I'm not taking the time to look up references to that when you could just as easily do it yourself. Far as the woman, I have no fuckin idea...fuck her
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I reckon most famous people that are nice to their fans only do it cos they have to be cos otherwise their fans might realise they have no talent.
Where in the hell do you get the idea that being nice and having talent are related?
So what you're saying is that if a celebrity is not nice then suddenly they have no talent? Are you fuckin kiddin me? Please read what you just said and think about that for a sec. Yes, I understand it may take anywhere from a few hours to a couple weeks for it to sink in but, in an effort to save you the trouble; talent is talent, it doesn't fucking matter if you're the nicest man alive or the biggest dick.
.....and you see class, this is the education level all of our good tax paying dollars are going to.
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