Originally Posted by Freemena

I have been reading you guys for days... thanks *smiles*

Originally Posted by jevons

And jevons even believes in the stalkers, those lurkers, those in the bushes with their pants down.

Hey, Im no stalker... yet. Im just somebody who just discovered Tool and stubbled upon the website by accident, looking for a connection to the universe that probubly doesn't exist... and who couldn't get into thier email for some godforsaken F-ing reason so I couldn't verify and post before... I've been posting shit like that for days, only to be told my account hadn't been activated... dont worry, people *grins* I wont just be an observer any longer...

Originally Posted by Freemena

Hehe, the avatar will come... I just need to do some digging myself... and yes... Im decended from monkeys, you can tell but the way I bang on the keyboard!

Originally Posted by hobblegobble

you can borrow mine until you find one half as intelligent Inner, haha..joking

Originally Posted by Inner_Eulogy

<---Hasn't even bothered with an avatar after years of being on here.

Originally Posted by jevons

this thread went Jevons.

Next stop, the moon.

We are only doing the honourable thing. To debate length of tracks is silly; sure, there are things to be said, but they're all so trivial compared to, oh, i dunno, the music.

Originally Posted by tryptosaur

Has anyone bothered to take notice of how many micrometeres thick a CD is?
If we were to use the length of a human penis as exactly one unit of measurement, then figure the co-sine, multiply that by 11 to the negative 11, we would get, (if we use a 400x lens) a perfect representation of four very small penises with two little dots in between, which are really erect penises see from a birdseye view which have been disembodied. Therefore, we actually have six penises, and not two, as someone else has postulated. Then we divide that by the difference, which in this case would be two, and are left with 1+1+1+1=4=number of neutrons in a fully developed penis atom.
Also 11 is always a gay number and gayness is contagious. Even though they cannot reproduce they multiply by taking any innocent heterosexual integer and make it gay through ****-multiplication.
For instance 7---a perfectly fine number until 11 comes in, butfucks it and now the 7 is 77. An obviously gay number.
You can also see this with 3. Expose it to the corrupting influence of 11 and now the decent 3 you've grown to respect as a religious number (the Holy Trinity) all of a sudden becomes a raging ****: 33!
And since 3s are really asses facing right the negativeQ-factor applies and it becomes
-33 Now you can see actual butfucking taking place since the -is a penis facing to the left.
Jesus died at age 33. So he couldn't have possibly had children. He was gay!

Originally Posted by tryptosaur

Has anyone bothered to take notice of how many micrometeres thick a CD is?
If we were to use the length of a human penis as exactly one unit of measurement, then figure the co-sine, multiply that by 11 to the negative 11, we would get, (if we use a 400x lens) a perfect representation of four very small penises with two little dots in between, which are really erect penises see from a birdseye view which have been disembodied. Therefore, we actually have six penises, and not two, as someone else has postulated. Then we divide that by the difference, which in this case would be two, and are left with 1+1+1+1=4=number of neutrons in a fully developed penis atom.
Also 11 is always a gay number and gayness is contagious. Even though they cannot reproduce they multiply by taking any innocent heterosexual integer and make it gay through ****-multiplication.
For instance 7---a perfectly fine number until 11 comes in, butfucks it and now the 7 is 77. An obviously gay number.
You can also see this with 3. Expose it to the corrupting influence of 11 and now the decent 3 you've grown to respect as a religious number (the Holy Trinity) all of a sudden becomes a raging ****: 33!
And since 3s are really asses facing right the negativeQ-factor applies and it becomes
-33 Now you can see actual butfucking taking place since the -is a penis facing to the left.
Jesus died at age 33. So he couldn't have possibly had children. He was gay!

Originally Posted by jevons

1984 - present.

Get the fuck out or contribute something.

Originally Posted by thezuesanator

If you can stand to read this I think it raises some important questions concerning the song and the album as a whole

Solara has been highlighting the significance of 11:11 since approximately 1987, around the time of or shortly after the Harmonic Convergence. This was an important cosmic measurement point, where humanity was tested to determine whether to evolve/ascend to the next level… or not. The balance of humanity chose to evolve. As such, Kryon refers to the Harmonic Convergence as the 11:11, and regards it as the occurance of “permission to evolve”. It is around this time that Solar began her 11:11 work.

Solara conveys that 11:11 is our “wake-up call” and our “trigger of remembrance”. The significance of noticing 11:11 can be compared to a lucid dream, whereby the dreamer awakens within the dream state. 11:11 taps you on the shoulder, prompting you to look at the clock at exactly that time, and then winks at you as if to say “remember, this is only a dream”. 11:11 whispers in your ear “it’s time to wake up now”. 11:11 is like a glitch in the matrix that keeps popping up, telling us that something is not as it appears to be.

To make the connection between Solara’s message and transgenderism, it is necessary to first provide a brief background of the signficiance of 11:11. The following is exerpted from Solara’s website.

A TRIGGER OF REMEMBRANCE

Repeated sightings of 11:11 have happened to millions throughout the world. Many want to know why this is happening? What does the 11:11 signify? For many years the numbers 11:11 have been mysteriously appearing to millions of people all over the world. Often appearing on digital clocks, the sightings of 11:11 tend to occur during time of heightened awareness, having a most powerful effect on those seeing them. When the 11:11 appears to you, it is your wake-up call. A direct channel opens up between you and the Greater Reality. The 11:11 is an insertion point for the Greater Reality to enter the present moment. When this happens, it is time to stop whatever you are doing and LOOK LARGER.

You can enter the Greater Reality and travel deeper into the Invisible. You can seed a long held desire, receive a vision, ask for help in some specific area of your life or simply feel the Invisible insert itself into the present moment. The revelations you receive will not come in the form of mental concepts. Rather, it will be an enhanced state of being in which you will see everything as if with new eyes. A deeper understanding of what is truly real will surround you. It tells you that it is time to take a good look around you and see what is real and what is illusory. It's time to pierce the veils of illusion which keep us bound to an unreal world. You have been chosen, because you are ready, to step into a Greater Reality. To lead the way for others into a new way of living, into a Greater Love. To ascend from duality into Oneness.

The 11:11 is the bridge between duality and Oneness. It is our pathway into the Unknown. Each time we see the numbers 11:11, our cellular memory banks are further activated. There's a stirring deep inside, a hint of remembrance of something long forgotten. The appearance of 11:11 is a powerful confirmation that we are on the right track, aligned with the Greater Reality. The appearance of 11:11 is an always beneficial act of Divine Intervention.

The purpose of the 11:11 Activation was to open the Doorway of the 11:11. This Doorway is the transition zone or bridge between two very different evolutionary spirals; our old one which is anchored in duality and the new evolutionary spiral of Oneness. Each evolutionary spiral is aligned with different Great Central Sun Systems. The Doorway of the 11:11 opened on January 11, 1992 and is now scheduled to close on November 11, 2011.

According to Solara’s message, during the period of 1/11/1992 to 11/11/2011, there will be 11 Gates/Doorways of human evolution presented. Of the 11 Doorways, 7 have been “activated” so far. Activations involve performing group ceremony/ritual at a specific time and place. Groups of literally tens of thousands of human lightworkers have made the journey to physically attend at that time/place to assist in the Activation. On seven different occasions and locations since 1992, lightworkers from around the globe have converged for the sake of evolution, with another four yet to come. Imagine a football stadium full of people, gathered together in some remote location, performing a ceremony to unlock an energy portal which will unleash the potential of human evolution. It is an understatement to say that Solara’s work has been revolutionary in the New Age community. In Solara’s words…





Within the Doorway of the 11:11 there are Eleven Gates. Each Gate is a stepping-up station to a new frequency band of energy. These Gates are similar to locks in a canal. Once a Gate is activated and entered, we begin an intense process of transformation and initiation as our beings are immersed in a new frequency patterning. Traveling upon these frequency bands, we master the lessons of each Gate until we arrive at the next Gate. Each Gate has a unique vibratory keynote with which we must align ourselves in a state of harmonic resonance. It is this process of alignment which gives us the needed recalibration so that we may travel deeper into the Invisible. The Gates of the 11:11 can be entered at any time once they have been activated, for we are not all on the same timing within our evolutionary spiral. Hence, you might be currently experiencing any or all of the first four Gates. However, a Gate may not be entered until it has been properly activated.

The First Gate - Healing our Hearts

The focus here is on the healing of our emotions. This requires a constant process of letting go, a continuous reevaluation of our old ways of feeling & loving. With this much needed healing of our individual hearts, we experience an activation of our One Heart. The One Heart is the heart of all. It is the core of our new emotional body. This means that we share the same heart, a much vaster and truer heart than before. The One Heart is the heart which cannot be broken. There is no more "giving" or "receiving" of love. Love simply is, a constant recycling, coming and going and recirculating. As we let go of the experiences of the past, we learn to live our Love.

The Second Gate - And the two shall become One

The keynote of the Second Gate is the two becoming One. This entails an intensive process of reunifying all our inherent polarities: inner male & female, Sun and Moon, spirit and matter, Earth and Star. Our new emotional bodies are strengthened, further anchoring the One Heart. We now embody the Lovers from Beyond the Stars; a deeper, vaster Love than we ever experienced as True Loves. The reunion of the Lovers from Beyond the Stars back into One Being creates the doorway into a new heightened level of Love called the Greater Love.

To read about Gates Three to Seven, visit www.nvisible.com

Solara’s information is relevant to the Transgender community because the Second Gate balances inherent polarities, including that of gender. I propose that transgendered people are evolving through Gate Two, and reunifying their inner male and female polarities. It is due to this balancing of inner gender influence that males are inclined to outwardly manifest their inner femininity, just as females are inclined to outwardly manifest their inner masculinity. Men exhibiting femininity should be celebrated because it is a sign of human evolution. Based upon Solara’s message, a man can not evolve without transcending Gate Two, which includes embracing his feminine self.

The linkage here is that Solara’s influential 11:11 message supports transgenderism. Those who resonate to the message of Solara, must also embrace transgenderism. If evolution through Gate Two requires the balancing of male/female, it follows that transgenderism is actually the state to which all humans must aspire if they are to evolve. A transgendered human is a more evolved human. All who align with Solara and have passed through Gate Two must themselves have become transgendered in the process.


At this precious moment of 11:11 on 11/11 of 11, the light in me salutes the light in you, the beautiful transgendered Ones. Know that you are in the right place, at the right time. When you see 11:11, be reminded that human evolution is quickening, and you are forerunners on this path. As say both Kryon and Solara, the time for balancing gender duality is NOW. Transgendered people are moving in an evolutionary direction.

With reverence,
Michele Angelique

Maybe a bit new agey, ok it is New Age, but any thoughts concerning the lenghth of the track, the title, the lyric Don't know wont know, is this an elaborate satire or more? Shine on until the two become one, the artwork net of being, the two images becoming one, what do you think?