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04-25-2006, 09:26 AM
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agreed - i would never pick favourites but at the moment, this is the track i go to first when i play the cd (and to clarify, my friend was given a promo copy and has leant it to me until May 2nd)
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agreed - i would never pick favourites but at the moment, this is the track i go to first when i play the cd (and to clarify, my friend was given a promo copy and has leant it to me until May 2nd)
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Hey, better than the H solo. That one's worse than the worst high school kid's guitar solo.
imo the wings solo just sounds like random noodling
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Hey, better than the H solo. That one's worse than the worst high school kid's guitar solo.
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This song reminds me of a cross between "The Wall" and "Meddle"
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This song reminds me of a cross between "The Wall" and "Meddle"
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Wow, this song is great but IMHO it doesnt touch disposition/reflection.
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Wow, this song is great but IMHO it doesnt touch disposition/reflection.
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Wow, this song is great but IMHO it doesnt touch disposition/reflection.
ditto.
not enough maynard all out passionate singing, i feel like he's holding back.

"you were my witness, my eyes my evidence, judith marie, unconditional one"

such a beautiful line and i wish he belted it out but he sorta holds himself back i feel like.
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Wow, this song is great but IMHO it doesnt touch disposition/reflection.
ditto.
not enough maynard all out passionate singing, i feel like he's holding back.

"you were my witness, my eyes my evidence, judith marie, unconditional one"

such a beautiful line and i wish he belted it out but he sorta holds himself back i feel like.
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This song is a masterpiece, but not the masterpiece.
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This song is a masterpiece, but not the masterpiece.
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Wow, I didn't realize so many people had Tool's ambient/avant-garde/less structured stuff as their most favorite. I do like that stuff too, but I dig their more structured progressive-type songs more. What I mean by that is, it has something to do with a consistant intricate rhythm drive from Danny. Much of Lateralus has it, including Reflection. Third Eye and Rosetta Stoned, for example, don't have it as much. I really think it has to do with which direction Danny takes it. On Third Eye, the drumming seems much more random, not that it isn't good, I just dig his busier more structured stuff than his stuff that is spread out.

On 10,000 Days, his drumming is similar to the style of Third Eye and Rosetta Stoned, like this solo jam-type lightly tapping around. The drumming isn't as distinct and specific as my favorite songs of theirs. It still shows he has great depth and talent, obviously.
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Wow, I didn't realize so many people had Tool's ambient/avant-garde/less structured stuff as their most favorite. I do like that stuff too, but I dig their more structured progressive-type songs more. What I mean by that is, it has something to do with a consistant intricate rhythm drive from Danny. Much of Lateralus has it, including Reflection. Third Eye and Rosetta Stoned, for example, don't have it as much. I really think it has to do with which direction Danny takes it. On Third Eye, the drumming seems much more random, not that it isn't good, I just dig his busier more structured stuff than his stuff that is spread out.

On 10,000 Days, his drumming is similar to the style of Third Eye and Rosetta Stoned, like this solo jam-type lightly tapping around. The drumming isn't as distinct and specific as my favorite songs of theirs. It still shows he has great depth and talent, obviously.
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Yeah. This song is a masterstroke, for sure.

I'm a little curious how the mainstream listener will take it, if at all.

I'm not so concerned with the band getting #1 singles, or grammys et al, but I would like to think this song will open a lot of doors for Tool, and perhaps reach a part of the populace that eschews hard, difficult music. The more mature audience, I mean.
Jazz people, classical people, 70's era people. I think it will blow a lot of minds.
I like that thought. However I think that ever sine ÆNIMA they've deserved it :)

I really enjoy how they're music is pleasurable on so many levels. From what it sounds this album is more sophisticated than Lateralus (specifically Reflection), and that's just making me itch. I read this forum to get background before I listen when I get my cd, and I'm really getting excited. But I digress... I think that this music is good when you first listen to it, it's great when you learn the background info on it, and it's even better when you hear it a lot. And I love the balance they've created and how they can make a four person band so complex and sophisticated.
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Yeah. This song is a masterstroke, for sure.

I'm a little curious how the mainstream listener will take it, if at all.

I'm not so concerned with the band getting #1 singles, or grammys et al, but I would like to think this song will open a lot of doors for Tool, and perhaps reach a part of the populace that eschews hard, difficult music. The more mature audience, I mean.
Jazz people, classical people, 70's era people. I think it will blow a lot of minds.
I like that thought. However I think that ever sine ÆNIMA they've deserved it :)

I really enjoy how they're music is pleasurable on so many levels. From what it sounds this album is more sophisticated than Lateralus (specifically Reflection), and that's just making me itch. I read this forum to get background before I listen when I get my cd, and I'm really getting excited. But I digress... I think that this music is good when you first listen to it, it's great when you learn the background info on it, and it's even better when you hear it a lot. And I love the balance they've created and how they can make a four person band so complex and sophisticated.
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This is certainly up there. I mean, like WAY up there.
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This is certainly up there. I mean, like WAY up there.
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this song is ONE tool masterpiece.

but no band i've ever heard has done anything this fucking huge.
Wings is incredible and all but honestly... I was more floored the first time I heard Lateralus. Plus if you listen close, the climax of this song is almost the same note progression as the one from Lateralus' climax as well, with the timing changed a bit. Basically, from 4-6minutes 10K Days is the best thing they've done, but the climax and the end doesn't work as much for me as the other epics (Third Eye, Pushit Live, Lateralus, even Reflection)
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this song is ONE tool masterpiece.

but no band i've ever heard has done anything this fucking huge.
Wings is incredible and all but honestly... I was more floored the first time I heard Lateralus. Plus if you listen close, the climax of this song is almost the same note progression as the one from Lateralus' climax as well, with the timing changed a bit. Basically, from 4-6minutes 10K Days is the best thing they've done, but the climax and the end doesn't work as much for me as the other epics (Third Eye, Pushit Live, Lateralus, even Reflection)
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ditto.
not enough maynard all out passionate singing, i feel like he's holding back.

"you were my witness, my eyes my evidence, judith marie, unconditional one"

such a beautiful line and i wish he belted it out but he sorta holds himself back i feel like.

I feel the exact same way about maynard holding back at that part. The only thing that comes to my mind in maynard's defense is he didn't want to over-power the rest of the instrument parts... I think with repeated listens I'll figure out exactly why he did what he did.
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ditto.
not enough maynard all out passionate singing, i feel like he's holding back.

"you were my witness, my eyes my evidence, judith marie, unconditional one"

such a beautiful line and i wish he belted it out but he sorta holds himself back i feel like.

I feel the exact same way about maynard holding back at that part. The only thing that comes to my mind in maynard's defense is he didn't want to over-power the rest of the instrument parts... I think with repeated listens I'll figure out exactly why he did what he did.
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I like that thought. However I think that ever sine ÆNIMA they've deserved it :)
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hey, How'd you get that AE combo when you typer "ÆNIMA ?" (I copied and pasted... )
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I like that thought. However I think that ever sine ÆNIMA they've deserved it :)
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Great song, although parts of Adam's minimal guitar solo ruin it, almost like he's afraid to be showy, just follow the bass. All in all though I reckon this is almost as much of an epic as "3 days" by Jane's Addiction.
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Great song, although parts of Adam's minimal guitar solo ruin it, almost like he's afraid to be showy, just follow the bass. All in all though I reckon this is almost as much of an epic as "3 days" by Jane's Addiction.
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hey, How'd you get that AE combo when you typer "ÆNIMA ?" (I copied and pasted... )
ALT+146, ALT+145 for lower case (numbers on the numpad).
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ALT+146, ALT+145 for lower case (numbers on the numpad).
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ALT+146, ALT+145 for lower case (numbers on the numpad).
didn't work for me
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Æ... nevermind... I needed the Nem Lock on... thanks. Æ Ænima!!!!!!
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Æ... nevermind... I needed the Nem Lock on... thanks. Æ Ænima!!!!!!
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you guys make me excited to hear the new album...very excited.
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you guys make me excited to hear the new album...very excited.
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you guys make me excited to hear the new album...very excited.

I'm curious about what your impressions of the album are, without having heard it. Because I think its safe to say that this album is nothing like what you expect, even with all this pre-info from those of us who have heard it.
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you guys make me excited to hear the new album...very excited.

I'm curious about what your impressions of the album are, without having heard it. Because I think its safe to say that this album is nothing like what you expect, even with all this pre-info from those of us who have heard it.
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Wow, this song is great but IMHO it doesnt touch disposition/reflection.
I agree with you right now, but I have a feeling that this song is going to grow on me really soon.

If any of the songs on 10,000 Days surpass Reflection, I think this will be the one.
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Wow, this song is great but IMHO it doesnt touch disposition/reflection.
I agree with you right now, but I have a feeling that this song is going to grow on me really soon.

If any of the songs on 10,000 Days surpass Reflection, I think this will be the one.
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I'm still trying to let the whole album sink in (I just bought it earlier today, didn't download any leaks), but at this point... 10,000 Days is my favorite song on the CD.
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I'm still trying to let the whole album sink in (I just bought it earlier today, didn't download any leaks), but at this point... 10,000 Days is my favorite song on the CD.
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Lets all be serious for one moment. Sure Adam's is not a great guitarist from a technical standpoint,but does any of the technicality matter when his playing is based apon emotion.Case in point, solo to third eye...easy by playing standards and yet always has me wanting more. I think the people who moan aout tool from the standards of one members skills are quite frankly shortsighted. Its the cohesion of the band that helps create the beauty and emotion i love.

Slash's solo-november rain...pretencious musical mastibation
Adam's solo-Third eye...emotive,but perfectly fitting; simple yet beautifully complex.
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Lets all be serious for one moment. Sure Adam's is not a great guitarist from a technical standpoint,but does any of the technicality matter when his playing is based apon emotion.Case in point, solo to third eye...easy by playing standards and yet always has me wanting more. I think the people who moan aout tool from the standards of one members skills are quite frankly shortsighted. Its the cohesion of the band that helps create the beauty and emotion i love.

Slash's solo-november rain...pretencious musical mastibation
Adam's solo-Third eye...emotive,but perfectly fitting; simple yet beautifully complex.
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It took me a few listens to get some of the new songs, track 4 in particular. But Christ! It is a masterpiece, I wont go as far as saying its there best song, as I honestly cant pick a favourite song from all of there albums. But Wings pt 2 is unreal to say the least.
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It took me a few listens to get some of the new songs, track 4 in particular. But Christ! It is a masterpiece, I wont go as far as saying its there best song, as I honestly cant pick a favourite song from all of there albums. But Wings pt 2 is unreal to say the least.
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Wings and 10000 days was immediatly my favorite song on the new album. All it took was a couple listens and once through the lyrics and it stood out more so than any other. I wont go as far to say it is my favorite all time, that honor still rests on about 30 different tool tracks. As for the climax line, im sure if they play these songs live, maynard will be so worked up that he'll belt it out like we all want to hear it. I understand what yall are saying about the solo, but i think it goes well for the song, and we all know tool is about the composition and having all of the peices fit together rather than showing off.
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Wings and 10000 days was immediatly my favorite song on the new album. All it took was a couple listens and once through the lyrics and it stood out more so than any other. I wont go as far to say it is my favorite all time, that honor still rests on about 30 different tool tracks. As for the climax line, im sure if they play these songs live, maynard will be so worked up that he'll belt it out like we all want to hear it. I understand what yall are saying about the solo, but i think it goes well for the song, and we all know tool is about the composition and having all of the peices fit together rather than showing off.
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Most spiritual song ever. Period.
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As far as I'm concerned, yes. Yes it is.
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And the ending part:

Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
Burning all through, tossed upon the believers
You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional one!

Holy crap Justin starts playing full chords on the bass (one of my favorite things from a bass player).....this is friggin' unreal....better than Pushit..
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And the ending part:

Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
Burning all through, tossed upon the believers
You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional one!

Holy crap Justin starts playing full chords on the bass (one of my favorite things from a bass player).....this is friggin' unreal....better than Pushit..
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I love this song purely for the fact that this is really really close to maynard's heart. Its his mother's eulogy (as far as im concerned) and other than Judith and 3 Libras (APC of course) we dont really get anything very personal from Maynard. A trully emotional song, regardless of how people say this album lacks emotion. Imagine singing this at your grandmother's funeral and tell me that it doesn't have emotion.
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I love this song purely for the fact that this is really really close to maynard's heart. Its his mother's eulogy (as far as im concerned) and other than Judith and 3 Libras (APC of course) we dont really get anything very personal from Maynard. A trully emotional song, regardless of how people say this album lacks emotion. Imagine singing this at your grandmother's funeral and tell me that it doesn't have emotion.
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Is it bad that when I heard the tragic news of Maynard's mother's death in 2003 I had a twinge of excitment for the beauty that this event would evoke from an artist like Maynard, especially when accompanied and connected by the rest of the band as amazing as Tool? I know that as artist our art reflects where we are and what happens to us. I couldn't wait or imagine the kind of powerful piece of art such an event would bring forth. I was looking for it on APC 13th step and I didnt see much of it. Im so glad Maynard has shared his acceptance and battle with his mother's death with all of his fans by creating this masterpiece in response to it. Judith would be proud. Thank you, Maynard.
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Is it bad that when I heard the tragic news of Maynard's mother's death in 2003 I had a twinge of excitment for the beauty that this event would evoke from an artist like Maynard, especially when accompanied and connected by the rest of the band as amazing as Tool? I know that as artist our art reflects where we are and what happens to us. I couldn't wait or imagine the kind of powerful piece of art such an event would bring forth. I was looking for it on APC 13th step and I didnt see much of it. Im so glad Maynard has shared his acceptance and battle with his mother's death with all of his fans by creating this masterpiece in response to it. Judith would be proud. Thank you, Maynard.
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wings along with 10,000 days is definitely a masterpiece. Is it their piece de resistance? Who knows. Maybe they change it for the live version and it gets even better. I think that eventually yes they will be remembered for it. There is too much raw emotion in it for it not to be.
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wings along with 10,000 days is definitely a masterpiece. Is it their piece de resistance? Who knows. Maybe they change it for the live version and it gets even better. I think that eventually yes they will be remembered for it. There is too much raw emotion in it for it not to be.
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It's a beautifull emotional song, there isn't more to say
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It's a beautifull emotional song, there isn't more to say
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when i first heard this, i thought it was long and drug out..even though i liked it. i dont know how many listens it took, but today, it clicked.

this is just so amazingly beautiful, from the last 3 chords on Pt 1 to the climax..solo..lyrics...god. I actually feel sad after listening to it and no one else seems to feel as moved as I do..i wish they could feel the same. Most of you do, it just seems a shame not everybody can love something so much.
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when i first heard this, i thought it was long and drug out..even though i liked it. i dont know how many listens it took, but today, it clicked.

this is just so amazingly beautiful, from the last 3 chords on Pt 1 to the climax..solo..lyrics...god. I actually feel sad after listening to it and no one else seems to feel as moved as I do..i wish they could feel the same. Most of you do, it just seems a shame not everybody can love something so much.
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I wont go as far to say it is my favorite all time... As for the climax line, im sure if they play these songs live, maynard will be so worked up that he'll belt it out like we all want to hear it.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I think if they do play this live we will most definitely see more raw emotion from Maynard, I mean look at the subject matter. I agree with previous posts that it did seem as if he was "holding back," but it was a was good observation that someone posted, to say that he may having been doing it to not overpower the instruments and lessen their impact. Overall amazing song, but I agree that both Wings & 10,000 days have to be played together for the whole effect.
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I wont go as far to say it is my favorite all time... As for the climax line, im sure if they play these songs live, maynard will be so worked up that he'll belt it out like we all want to hear it.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I think if they do play this live we will most definitely see more raw emotion from Maynard, I mean look at the subject matter. I agree with previous posts that it did seem as if he was "holding back," but it was a was good observation that someone posted, to say that he may having been doing it to not overpower the instruments and lessen their impact. Overall amazing song, but I agree that both Wings & 10,000 days have to be played together for the whole effect.
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Listen to this song while driving at night through the country alone, with the windows down and the volume up; not necessarily blearing but loud enough. I will garuntee that it will be one of the most peaceful and spiritual moments you've had in a while. This song reminds me of my grandmother, almost to the point where I'm in tears. It's the first track I go to when I plug it in and I always feel the need to give it one more listen before I take it out. I've had the cd for a day and I feel like it's the only music I've listened to in my life.
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Listen to this song while driving at night through the country alone, with the windows down and the volume up; not necessarily blearing but loud enough. I will garuntee that it will be one of the most peaceful and spiritual moments you've had in a while. This song reminds me of my grandmother, almost to the point where I'm in tears. It's the first track I go to when I plug it in and I always feel the need to give it one more listen before I take it out. I've had the cd for a day and I feel like it's the only music I've listened to in my life.
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i agree with whoever said that the song doesnt feel like it lasts 17 minutes. I think wings goes by at a regualr pace, but 10000 days fells like 5 minutes tops.
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i agree with whoever said that the song doesnt feel like it lasts 17 minutes. I think wings goes by at a regualr pace, but 10000 days fells like 5 minutes tops.
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10,000 Days is by far one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard Tool do. It is also the most emotional, almost entirely because of its deep personal connection to Maynard. Now, I'm not saying that none of the other songs they've done aren't emotional (that would be a total lie), but I feel that it is their most emotional one to date.

For as much as I enjoy this song- as it is quickly turning in to one of my favorites- I cannot help but feel the same as many of you seem to. There are several parts of this song in which Maynard seems to be holding back. The lines, "You were my witness, my eyes my evidence, Judith marie, unconditional one," just happens to be the most noticable. It would be nice to hear Maynard sing it with more force than what he did here. Overall, though, the entire band did an amazing job at expressing the emotion not only through the lyrics, but through the instuments as well.
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10,000 Days is by far one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard Tool do. It is also the most emotional, almost entirely because of its deep personal connection to Maynard. Now, I'm not saying that none of the other songs they've done aren't emotional (that would be a total lie), but I feel that it is their most emotional one to date.

For as much as I enjoy this song- as it is quickly turning in to one of my favorites- I cannot help but feel the same as many of you seem to. There are several parts of this song in which Maynard seems to be holding back. The lines, "You were my witness, my eyes my evidence, Judith marie, unconditional one," just happens to be the most noticable. It would be nice to hear Maynard sing it with more force than what he did here. Overall, though, the entire band did an amazing job at expressing the emotion not only through the lyrics, but through the instuments as well.
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I hope all of you realize that Maynard began as a stand-up comedian. I'm sure you all know this, as you are notorious for looking into every detail of every lyric, riff, and personal history of the band members. What you have most likely failed to connect though, is that Maynard is screwing with you all. He has been for 15 years now. None of this means anything to him. It's all an elaborate joke twisted up into a social experiment of throwing all sorts of random mystical elements into a song, juxtaposing them with tribal drums and weird time signatures, and seeing what kind of profundity the knuckleheads find. I personally think it's hilarious.
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I hope all of you realize that Maynard began as a stand-up comedian. I'm sure you all know this, as you are notorious for looking into every detail of every lyric, riff, and personal history of the band members. What you have most likely failed to connect though, is that Maynard is screwing with you all. He has been for 15 years now. None of this means anything to him. It's all an elaborate joke twisted up into a social experiment of throwing all sorts of random mystical elements into a song, juxtaposing them with tribal drums and weird time signatures, and seeing what kind of profundity the knuckleheads find. I personally think it's hilarious.
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I personally think it's hilarious.
To bad you're not.
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This song reminds me of a cross between "The Wall" and "Meddle"
tool totally picked up where the floyd left off, there image, there images...ie,
in the wall pink is in the chair out side, starts to thrust forward and back, turns into the pink face...then after the whole shaving incident, walking down the hall
he turns into something adam would.....create....OH, now i see, but hey...
i love it...!!!
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This song reminds me of a cross between "The Wall" and "Meddle"
tool totally picked up where the floyd left off, there image, there images...ie,
in the wall pink is in the chair out side, starts to thrust forward and back, turns into the pink face...then after the whole shaving incident, walking down the hall
he turns into something adam would.....create....OH, now i see, but hey...
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I hope all of you realize that Maynard began as a stand-up comedian. I'm sure you all know this, as you are notorious for looking into every detail of every lyric, riff, and personal history of the band members. What you have most likely failed to connect though, is that Maynard is screwing with you all. He has been for 15 years now. None of this means anything to him. It's all an elaborate joke twisted up into a social experiment of throwing all sorts of random mystical elements into a song, juxtaposing them with tribal drums and weird time signatures, and seeing what kind of profundity the knuckleheads find. I personally think it's hilarious.
um, kinda, their still musicians...being one myself, theres total artistic elements,
of course we all know he is a joker....anyway.
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I hope all of you realize that Maynard began as a stand-up comedian. I'm sure you all know this, as you are notorious for looking into every detail of every lyric, riff, and personal history of the band members. What you have most likely failed to connect though, is that Maynard is screwing with you all. He has been for 15 years now. None of this means anything to him. It's all an elaborate joke twisted up into a social experiment of throwing all sorts of random mystical elements into a song, juxtaposing them with tribal drums and weird time signatures, and seeing what kind of profundity the knuckleheads find. I personally think it's hilarious.
um, kinda, their still musicians...being one myself, theres total artistic elements,
of course we all know he is a joker....anyway.
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