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"High as a wave" makes no sense in the context of the rest of the song.
This song is full of religious imagery. For instance, "This little light of mine, the gift you passed on to me, I'm gonna let it shine..." "This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine" is from a hymn/song commonly sung in many christian churches.
I'm hearing "High is the way, but our eyes are all upon the ground. You were the light and the way, they only read about." The way of holiness, righteousness, etc etc. His mother lived it, while everyone else just read about it. She was always looking to heaven, looking to something better than her current condition, while the hypocritical congregation is so absorbed with the here and now. IMO, this fits a lot better considering the rest of the religious imagery in the song.
Besides, a wave? I'll rise on up off the ground? WTF? How does this make sense at all?
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
"High as a wave" makes no sense in the context of the rest of the song.
This song is full of religious imagery. For instance, "This little light of mine, the gift you passed on to me, I'm gonna let it shine..." "This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine" is from a hymn/song commonly sung in many christian churches.
I'm hearing "High is the way, but our eyes are all upon the ground. You were the light and the way, they only read about." The way of holiness, righteousness, etc etc. His mother lived it, while everyone else just read about it. She was always looking to heaven, looking to something better than her current condition, while the hypocritical congregation is so absorbed with the here and now. IMO, this fits a lot better considering the rest of the religious imagery in the song.
Besides, a wave? I'll rise on up off the ground? WTF? How does this make sense at all?
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06-08-2006, 07:31 AM
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"High as a wave" makes no sense in the context of the rest of the song.
This song is full of religious imagery. For instance, "This little light of mine, the gift you passed on to me, I'm gonna let it shine..." "This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine" is from a hymn/song commonly sung in many christian churches.
I'm hearing "High is the way, but our eyes are all upon the ground. You were the light and the way, they only read about." The way of holiness, righteousness, etc etc. His mother lived it, while everyone else just read about it. She was always looking to heaven, looking to something better than her current condition, while the hypocritical congregation is so absorbed with the here and now. IMO, this fits a lot better considering the rest of the religious imagery in the song.
Besides, a wave? I'll rise on up off the ground? WTF? How does this make sense at all?
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Makes Alot of sense
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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Originally Posted by facelessDrone
"High as a wave" makes no sense in the context of the rest of the song.
This song is full of religious imagery. For instance, "This little light of mine, the gift you passed on to me, I'm gonna let it shine..." "This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine" is from a hymn/song commonly sung in many christian churches.
I'm hearing "High is the way, but our eyes are all upon the ground. You were the light and the way, they only read about." The way of holiness, righteousness, etc etc. His mother lived it, while everyone else just read about it. She was always looking to heaven, looking to something better than her current condition, while the hypocritical congregation is so absorbed with the here and now. IMO, this fits a lot better considering the rest of the religious imagery in the song.
Besides, a wave? I'll rise on up off the ground? WTF? How does this make sense at all?
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Listen to the tales and romanticize,
How we follow the path of the hero.
Boast about the day when the rivers overrun.
How we rise to the height of our halo.
Listen to the tales as we all rationalize
Our way into the arms of the savior,
Feigning all the trials and the tribulations;
None of us have actually been there.
Not like you.
Ignorant fibbers in the congregation
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
None of them can even hold a candle up to you.
Blinded by choices, hypocrites won't see.
But enough about the collective Judas.
Who could deny
You were the one who illuminated
My little piece of the divine.
And this little light of mine, the gift you passed on to me;
I'm gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way,
Your way home ...
Oh, what are they going to do when the lights go down
Without you to guide them all to Zion?
What are they going to do when the rivers overrun
Other than tremble incessantly?
High is the Way, but our lives are up on the ground. *
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about.
I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home.
You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!
Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father.
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now!
My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings!"
Give me my wings!
You are the light, a way, that they will only read about.
Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance,
Burden of proof tossed upon the believers.
You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence,
Judith Marie, unconditional one.
Daylight dims leaving cold fluorescence.
Difficult to see you in this light.
Please forgive this bold suggestion:
Should you see your Maker's face tonight,
Look Him in the eye, look Him in the eye, and tell Him:
"I never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one.
Hallelujah, it's time for you to bring me home."
* by up he means over. like time is up.
06-08-2006, 07:37 AM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Listen to the tales and romanticize,
How we follow the path of the hero.
Boast about the day when the rivers overrun.
How we rise to the height of our halo.
Listen to the tales as we all rationalize
Our way into the arms of the savior,
Feigning all the trials and the tribulations;
None of us have actually been there.
Not like you.
Ignorant fibbers in the congregation
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
None of them can even hold a candle up to you.
Blinded by choices, hypocrites won't see.
But enough about the collective Judas.
Who could deny
You were the one who illuminated
My little piece of the divine.
And this little light of mine, the gift you passed on to me;
I'm gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way,
Your way home ...
Oh, what are they going to do when the lights go down
Without you to guide them all to Zion?
What are they going to do when the rivers overrun
Other than tremble incessantly?
High is the Way, but our lives are up on the ground. *
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about.
I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home.
You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!
Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father.
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now!
My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings!"
Give me my wings!
You are the light, a way, that they will only read about.
Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance,
Burden of proof tossed upon the believers.
You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence,
Judith Marie, unconditional one.
Daylight dims leaving cold fluorescence.
Difficult to see you in this light.
Please forgive this bold suggestion:
Should you see your Maker's face tonight,
Look Him in the eye, look Him in the eye, and tell Him:
"I never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one.
Hallelujah, it's time for you to bring me home."
* by up he means over. like time is up.
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I may be wavering on "our lives are up on the ground". " our eyes upon the ground" sounds pretty plausiblr. but I just keep hearing lives. probably because it's stuck in my head.
06-08-2006, 11:41 AM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
I may be wavering on "our lives are up on the ground". " our eyes upon the ground" sounds pretty plausiblr. but I just keep hearing lives. probably because it's stuck in my head.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
100% nailed it
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06-09-2006, 10:17 PM
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I may be wavering on "our lives are up on the ground". " our eyes upon the ground" sounds pretty plausiblr. but I just keep hearing lives. probably because it's stuck in my head.
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I just thought, this may have been said before, but maybe (just maybe) it's "all eyes are up on the ground"?
That would explain why you hear "lives".
And I just listened again, and perhaps it's "High is the way, But all eyes are upon the ground"
I'm sorry if I'm just repeating someone else. But what do you think:
"High is the way, But all eyes are upon the ground"
<edit> I went back to check, turns out other people thought the exact way, too.
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Originally Posted by mamajen
That's pretty close to what I hear, but I hear "High is the way, but ALL eyes are upon the ground."
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yeah, that is what i hear as well, and what makes the most sense to me. people should be focused on things spiritual but instead they're all wrapped up in things like money and dogma.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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Originally Posted by avi200
I may be wavering on "our lives are up on the ground". " our eyes upon the ground" sounds pretty plausiblr. but I just keep hearing lives. probably because it's stuck in my head.
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I just thought, this may have been said before, but maybe (just maybe) it's "all eyes are up on the ground"?
That would explain why you hear "lives".
And I just listened again, and perhaps it's "High is the way, But all eyes are upon the ground"
I'm sorry if I'm just repeating someone else. But what do you think:
"High is the way, But all eyes are upon the ground"
<edit> I went back to check, turns out other people thought the exact way, too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jim39n
Quote:
Originally Posted by mamajen
That's pretty close to what I hear, but I hear "High is the way, but ALL eyes are upon the ground."
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yeah, that is what i hear as well, and what makes the most sense to me. people should be focused on things spiritual but instead they're all wrapped up in things like money and dogma.
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Maybe it is:
"high is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground"
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Maybe it is:
"high is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground"
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06-10-2006, 11:35 AM
I'd vote for: High as a wave, but our eyes are upon the ground. Weelchair, maybe?
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
I'd vote for: High as a wave, but our eyes are upon the ground. Weelchair, maybe?
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06-10-2006, 12:11 PM
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Maybe it is:
"high is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground"
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I'd think so too, but there's an "L" sound before "eyes". And if you listen ever more carefully, you'll hear a word pronounced like "awl" which is equal to "all". There's no "ow" sound.
It helps if you slow it down a bit via Windows Media Player.
And to Terry21: lol to Wheelchair. That was great.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Quote:
Originally Posted by n_run
Maybe it is:
"high is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground"
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I'd think so too, but there's an "L" sound before "eyes". And if you listen ever more carefully, you'll hear a word pronounced like "awl" which is equal to "all". There's no "ow" sound.
It helps if you slow it down a bit via Windows Media Player.
And to Terry21: lol to Wheelchair. That was great.
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Contrary to the lyrics posted, I hear:
Who could deny you were the one who illuminated
your little piece of the divine.
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06-12-2006, 05:29 AM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Contrary to the lyrics posted, I hear:
Who could deny you were the one who illuminated
your little piece of the divine.
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I still hear:
Who could deny you were the one who illuminated
The idle piece of the divine
I definitely hear "idle" or something that sounds like it
06-12-2006, 07:45 AM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
I still hear:
Who could deny you were the one who illuminated
The idle piece of the divine
I definitely hear "idle" or something that sounds like it
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06-12-2006, 06:39 PM
hi,
good work so far!!!
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
hi,
good work so far!!!
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06-12-2006, 06:47 PM
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I still hear:
Who could deny you were the one who illuminated
The idle piece of the divine
I definitely hear "idle" or something that sounds like it
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me too !
06-12-2006, 06:47 PM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaseLogic
I still hear:
Who could deny you were the one who illuminated
The idle piece of the divine
I definitely hear "idle" or something that sounds like it
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Figured I would post what I believe the lyrics to be.
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Listen to the tales and romanticize
how we follow the path of the hero
boast about the day when the rivers overrun
how we rise to the height of our halo
listen to the tales as we all rationalize
Our way into the arms of the savior
feigning all the trials and the tribulations
none of us have actually been there
not like you
ignorant fibbers in the congregation,
gather around spewing sympathy,
spare me,
none of them can even hold a candle up to you
blinded by choices hypocrites wont seek,
but enough about the collective judas',
who could deny you were the one who illuminated,
your little piece of the divine,
this little light of mine
a gift you past on to me
i'm going to let it shine
to guide you safely on your way
your way home...
what are they going to do when the lights go down
without you to guide them home to zion?
what are they gonna do when the rivers overrun
other than tremble incessantly ?
high is our way but our eyes are upon the ground
you were the light and the way
they'll only read about
I only pray heaven knows
when to lift you out
10000 days in the fire is long enough
you're going home
you're the only one who can hold your head up high
shake your fist at the gates sayin'
"i have come home now. fetch me the spirit, the son and the father,
tell them their pillar of faith has ascended"
"its time now, my time now, give me my, give me my wings"
"give me my, give me my, give me my, give me my, give me my, give me my wings...."
you are the light, a way that they will only read about
set as i am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of truth tossed upon non-believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional one
daylight dims, leaving cold flouresence
difficult to see you in this light
please forgive this, bold suggestion
should you see your maker's face tonight
look him in the eye, look him in the eye, and tell him
i never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one
hallelujah, its time for you to bring me home...
06-12-2006, 11:30 PM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Figured I would post what I believe the lyrics to be.
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Listen to the tales and romanticize
how we follow the path of the hero
boast about the day when the rivers overrun
how we rise to the height of our halo
listen to the tales as we all rationalize
Our way into the arms of the savior
feigning all the trials and the tribulations
none of us have actually been there
not like you
ignorant fibbers in the congregation,
gather around spewing sympathy,
spare me,
none of them can even hold a candle up to you
blinded by choices hypocrites wont seek,
but enough about the collective judas',
who could deny you were the one who illuminated,
your little piece of the divine,
this little light of mine
a gift you past on to me
i'm going to let it shine
to guide you safely on your way
your way home...
what are they going to do when the lights go down
without you to guide them home to zion?
what are they gonna do when the rivers overrun
other than tremble incessantly ?
high is our way but our eyes are upon the ground
you were the light and the way
they'll only read about
I only pray heaven knows
when to lift you out
10000 days in the fire is long enough
you're going home
you're the only one who can hold your head up high
shake your fist at the gates sayin'
"i have come home now. fetch me the spirit, the son and the father,
tell them their pillar of faith has ascended"
"its time now, my time now, give me my, give me my wings"
"give me my, give me my, give me my, give me my, give me my, give me my wings...."
you are the light, a way that they will only read about
set as i am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of truth tossed upon non-believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional one
daylight dims, leaving cold flouresence
difficult to see you in this light
please forgive this, bold suggestion
should you see your maker's face tonight
look him in the eye, look him in the eye, and tell him
i never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one
hallelujah, its time for you to bring me home...
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06-14-2006, 12:19 AM
i was gonna post my own, but i agree with Rinia's post. nice job
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
i was gonna post my own, but i agree with Rinia's post. nice job
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06-14-2006, 06:33 PM
"FADING all the trials and the tribulations..."
I hear fading, not feigning.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
"FADING all the trials and the tribulations..."
I hear fading, not feigning.
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06-14-2006, 09:53 PM
i also hear faDing i hear a D sound.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
i also hear faDing i hear a D sound.
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Listen to the tales and romantisize,
How we follow the path of the... hero.
Boast about the day of when the rivers over-run,
How we rise to the height of our... halo.
Listen to the tales as we all rationalize,
Our way into the arms of the... savior.
Feigning all the trials and the tribulations,
None of us have actually... been there.
Not like you.
Ingorant figures in the congregation,
Gather 'round spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
None of them could even hold a candle up to you,
Blinded by choices hypcrites... won't see.
But, enough about the collective Judas,
Who could deny were the one who will/would even need it?
You're (a) little piece of the divine.
This little light of mine,
A gift you passed on to me,
I'll go let it shine to guide you safely on your way...
Your way home.
What are they gonna do when the lights go down,
Without you guide them all to... Zion?
What are they gonna do when the rivers over-run,
other than tremble incesantly?
High is the way,
But but all eyes are upon the ground.
You are/were the light and the way... they only read about.
I only pray... heaven knows when yo lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough,
You're goin' home.
You're the only one who can hold you head up high,
Shake your fist at the gates sayin'
"I'VE COME HOME, NOW...
FETCH ME THE SPIRIT, THE SON AND THE FATHER,
TELL THEM THEIR PILLAR OF FAITH HAS ASCENDED.
IT'S TIME, NOW!
MY TIME, NOW!
GIVE ME MY... GIVE ME MY WINGS!"
You are the way, the light they only read about.
Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance,
Purden of proof tossed upon the believers,
You will now witness my eyes, my evidence,
Judath Marie... her condition... won!
Daylight dims leaving... cold fluorescence,
Difficult to see you in this light.
Please forgive this... bold suggestion:
Should you see your anchor's face tongiht,
Look 'im in the eye, look 'im in the eye, and tell 'im,
"I Never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one.
Hallelujah... it's time for you yo bring me home."
06-14-2006, 10:42 PM
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Listen to the tales and romantisize,
How we follow the path of the... hero.
Boast about the day of when the rivers over-run,
How we rise to the height of our... halo.
Listen to the tales as we all rationalize,
Our way into the arms of the... savior.
Feigning all the trials and the tribulations,
None of us have actually... been there.
Not like you.
Ingorant figures in the congregation,
Gather 'round spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
None of them could even hold a candle up to you,
Blinded by choices hypcrites... won't see.
But, enough about the collective Judas,
Who could deny were the one who will/would even need it?
You're (a) little piece of the divine.
This little light of mine,
A gift you passed on to me,
I'll go let it shine to guide you safely on your way...
Your way home.
What are they gonna do when the lights go down,
Without you guide them all to... Zion?
What are they gonna do when the rivers over-run,
other than tremble incesantly?
High is the way,
But but all eyes are upon the ground.
You are/were the light and the way... they only read about.
I only pray... heaven knows when yo lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough,
You're goin' home.
You're the only one who can hold you head up high,
Shake your fist at the gates sayin'
"I'VE COME HOME, NOW...
FETCH ME THE SPIRIT, THE SON AND THE FATHER,
TELL THEM THEIR PILLAR OF FAITH HAS ASCENDED.
IT'S TIME, NOW!
MY TIME, NOW!
GIVE ME MY... GIVE ME MY WINGS!"
You are the way, the light they only read about.
Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance,
Purden of proof tossed upon the believers,
You will now witness my eyes, my evidence,
Judath Marie... her condition... won!
Daylight dims leaving... cold fluorescence,
Difficult to see you in this light.
Please forgive this... bold suggestion:
Should you see your anchor's face tongiht,
Look 'im in the eye, look 'im in the eye, and tell 'im,
"I Never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one.
Hallelujah... it's time for you yo bring me home."
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06-15-2006, 12:28 AM
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i was gonna post my own, but i agree with Rinia's post. nice job
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ditto. i think rinia has it spot fucking on. the only things i possibly hear different is "head on high" instead of "up" and i think it's "....hypocrites won't see" as well
*slaps self for being a nitpicky fucker*
other than that i think every word is perfect. thanks guys and girls.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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i was gonna post my own, but i agree with Rinia's post. nice job
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ditto. i think rinia has it spot fucking on. the only things i possibly hear different is "head on high" instead of "up" and i think it's "....hypocrites won't see" as well
*slaps self for being a nitpicky fucker*
other than that i think every word is perfect. thanks guys and girls.
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Feigning all the trials and tribulations/none of us have actually been there/not like you.
Fading doens't make much sense....Expecially put in the context of the line before . It sounds like he is talking about his expiernce listening to people telling their lifes story and rationalizing why they shoudl be welcomed in teh arms of their savior, Feinging [faking]all the trials and tribulations/ none of us haev actually been there/ not like you[have] makes sense
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Feigning all the trials and tribulations/none of us have actually been there/not like you.
Fading doens't make much sense....Expecially put in the context of the line before . It sounds like he is talking about his expiernce listening to people telling their lifes story and rationalizing why they shoudl be welcomed in teh arms of their savior, Feinging [faking]all the trials and tribulations/ none of us haev actually been there/ not like you[have] makes sense
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Feigning makes sense. Acting like you've endured so many hard times so you can rationalize being accepted into heaven.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Feigning makes sense. Acting like you've endured so many hard times so you can rationalize being accepted into heaven.
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FEIGNING all the trials and the tribulations...
that it what it sounds like to me, and makes more sense in the context of this verse especially.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
FEIGNING all the trials and the tribulations...
that it what it sounds like to me, and makes more sense in the context of this verse especially.
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06-16-2006, 11:46 AM
Yeah and both people over you said the same thing. Pff.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
Yeah and both people over you said the same thing. Pff.
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06-16-2006, 12:27 PM
set as i am and in my ways and in my arrogance
burden of truth tossed upon non-believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional WHYYYYYYYY....................?
It's possible no?
I can't imagine Maynard's bought Christian dogma all of a sudden.
Look at all the fools around her is kind of what he's been saying in this song right?
It seems like he's still railing against organized religion; while his mom was an amazing example of the power of spirituality, was she right?
difficult to see you in this light
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
set as i am and in my ways and in my arrogance
burden of truth tossed upon non-believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional WHYYYYYYYY....................?
It's possible no?
I can't imagine Maynard's bought Christian dogma all of a sudden.
Look at all the fools around her is kind of what he's been saying in this song right?
It seems like he's still railing against organized religion; while his mom was an amazing example of the power of spirituality, was she right?
difficult to see you in this light
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"Ignorant flippers"
"Blinded by choiceless hypocrites wont see"
"you were the one illuminated, light and peace of the devine"
"this little light of mine the gift you passed onto me, Im gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way....your way home."
"without you to lead them on to zion"
"High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" * I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ONE!*
"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie....unconditional one."
"its time for you to bring me home"
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P.S. "High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" makes alot of sense for anyone who has ever been involved with an organized relegion or someone who is dedicated to one. You are held to live this very holy life and walk a narrow road along the path that is far higher than what we as humans are capable of, and taught to view the lives that most of lead as low and far from the path. So that makes alot of sense to me. I understadn that "wave" works in with the rivers being over run, but i honestly hear "high is the way"....let me know whacha think
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
"Ignorant flippers"
"Blinded by choiceless hypocrites wont see"
"you were the one illuminated, light and peace of the devine"
"this little light of mine the gift you passed onto me, Im gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way....your way home."
"without you to lead them on to zion"
"High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" * I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ONE!*
"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie....unconditional one."
"its time for you to bring me home"
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P.S. "High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" makes alot of sense for anyone who has ever been involved with an organized relegion or someone who is dedicated to one. You are held to live this very holy life and walk a narrow road along the path that is far higher than what we as humans are capable of, and taught to view the lives that most of lead as low and far from the path. So that makes alot of sense to me. I understadn that "wave" works in with the rivers being over run, but i honestly hear "high is the way"....let me know whacha think
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06-19-2006, 03:42 PM
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"Ignorant flippers"
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What is that meant to mean? It's "fibbers", as in "liars".
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"Blinded by choiceless hypocrites wont see"
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Again, what is that meant to mean? It's obviously "choices".
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"you were the one illuminated, light and peace of the devine"
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No, although this does make sense (if you ignore the bad spelling), it's clumsy, what he says is:"You were the one who illuminated a little piece of the divine".
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"this little light of mine the gift you passed onto me, Im gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way....your way home."
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This could work.
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"without you to lead them on to zion"
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I hear 'all', but it could be this.
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"High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" * I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ONE!*
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Yeah, I think I agree with you.
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"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie....unconditional one."
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Agreed.
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"its time for you to bring me home"
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Yeah, although it's "it's" :D
This last line is still Judith speaking methinks, from the "I've come home now" bit to the last line is her.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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"Ignorant flippers"
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What is that meant to mean? It's "fibbers", as in "liars".
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Originally Posted by Spear
"Blinded by choiceless hypocrites wont see"
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Again, what is that meant to mean? It's obviously "choices".
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Originally Posted by Spear
"you were the one illuminated, light and peace of the devine"
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No, although this does make sense (if you ignore the bad spelling), it's clumsy, what he says is:"You were the one who illuminated a little piece of the divine".
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Originally Posted by Spear
"this little light of mine the gift you passed onto me, Im gonna let it shine to guide you safely on your way....your way home."
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This could work.
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"without you to lead them on to zion"
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I hear 'all', but it could be this.
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"High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" * I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ONE!*
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Yeah, I think I agree with you.
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"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie....unconditional one."
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Agreed.
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"its time for you to bring me home"
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Yeah, although it's "it's" :D
This last line is still Judith speaking methinks, from the "I've come home now" bit to the last line is her.
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06-19-2006, 10:49 PM
I've been a bit unsure about this. For a long time, I thought that the line
"High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground."
was actually
"High is the wave, but our eyes are up on the ground."
Which I felt could work... showing how most of humanity knows that we should look to heaven, but simply don't.
Kindof like in Right in Two.
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Lyrical Discrepancy - High as a wave?
I've been a bit unsure about this. For a long time, I thought that the line
"High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground."
was actually
"High is the wave, but our eyes are up on the ground."
Which I felt could work... showing how most of humanity knows that we should look to heaven, but simply don't.
Kindof like in Right in Two.
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06-20-2006, 08:12 AM
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"without you to lead them on to zion"
"High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" * I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ONE!*
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"Without you to guide them all to Zion"
I hear guide. Maybe it's just me.
"High is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground."
As in, we know there is a God, but we don't bother to look to him. In fact, we think we're looking up, but still only on material posessions.
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"Listen to the tales as we all rationalize,
Our way into the arms of the... savior."
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I hear "as we all rapture our lives, away into the the arms"
Anyone else?
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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"without you to lead them on to zion"
"High is the way, but our lives are upon the ground" * I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ONE!*
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"Without you to guide them all to Zion"
I hear guide. Maybe it's just me.
"High is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground."
As in, we know there is a God, but we don't bother to look to him. In fact, we think we're looking up, but still only on material posessions.
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Originally Posted by eksyte
"Listen to the tales as we all rationalize,
Our way into the arms of the... savior."
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I hear "as we all rapture our lives, away into the the arms"
Anyone else?
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High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about.
I only pray, God knows when to lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home.
the way these lyrics are sung. this verse. i can't even begin to describe to you the emotions that come up out of me. i can't even believe that someone could sing something so perfectly. like, it's not even the lyrics, but just the melody, the technique he uses, the emotion he puts into it, the feeling behind his voice.....
FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about.
I only pray, God knows when to lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home.
the way these lyrics are sung. this verse. i can't even begin to describe to you the emotions that come up out of me. i can't even believe that someone could sing something so perfectly. like, it's not even the lyrics, but just the melody, the technique he uses, the emotion he puts into it, the feeling behind his voice.....
FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
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High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about.
I only pray, God knows when to lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home.
the way these lyrics are sung. this verse. i can't even begin to describe to you the emotions that come up out of me. i can't even believe that someone could sing something so perfectly. like, it's not even the lyrics, but just the melody, the technique he uses, the emotion he puts into it, the feeling behind his voice.....
FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
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Totally agree, though I think it's "our eyes are upon the ground".
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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Originally Posted by Sagacious Foetu
High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about.
I only pray, God knows when to lift you out.
Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home.
the way these lyrics are sung. this verse. i can't even begin to describe to you the emotions that come up out of me. i can't even believe that someone could sing something so perfectly. like, it's not even the lyrics, but just the melody, the technique he uses, the emotion he puts into it, the feeling behind his voice.....
FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
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Totally agree, though I think it's "our eyes are upon the ground".
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"High is the WAY, but our eyes are upon the ground" I think
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Re: Lyrical Discrepancy - High as a wave?
"High is the WAY, but our eyes are upon the ground" I think
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hah back to the feigning/fading issue...
i mean..seriously..i think this irrefutably "failing"
it's all about context...trials and tribulations are things one would pass or fail
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
hah back to the feigning/fading issue...
i mean..seriously..i think this irrefutably "failing"
it's all about context...trials and tribulations are things one would pass or fail
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06-20-2006, 11:34 PM
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hah back to the feigning/fading issue...
i mean..seriously..i think this irrefutably "failing"
it's all about context...trials and tribulations are things one would pass or fail
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I refute that.
Feigning means to fake something. That works in context just as well if not better than failing. In context he is talking of Christians who are trying to rationalize their way to the saviour, so they fake going through trials and tribulations to make themselves look more worthy. But none of them have actually been there...
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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hah back to the feigning/fading issue...
i mean..seriously..i think this irrefutably "failing"
it's all about context...trials and tribulations are things one would pass or fail
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I refute that.
Feigning means to fake something. That works in context just as well if not better than failing. In context he is talking of Christians who are trying to rationalize their way to the saviour, so they fake going through trials and tribulations to make themselves look more worthy. But none of them have actually been there...
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"High is the WAY, but our eyes are upon the ground" I think
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hear the same but I'm not sure about the first part of teh sentence maybe it should be hight as a wave
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Re: Lyrical Discrepancy - High as a wave?
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"High is the WAY, but our eyes are upon the ground" I think
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hear the same but I'm not sure about the first part of teh sentence maybe it should be hight as a wave
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"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie....unconditional one."
i never heard that interpretation of this third line in my ears, but it seems to be undisputed on the boards, i think i'm the only one that hears this.
"You would not witness my eyes, my evidence"
In comparison it may seem to feel like a change in tone, but it's so much more real to me. the accepted interpretation is romanticizing. think about like Judith ya know? they didn't agree. and from what i understand/assume of maynards beliefs they are in juxtiposition with his mothers. hers are faith based ,his in evidence,
which gives this beautiful:
set as i am, and as important as i am to you, you'll never see what i know, it's an unconditional (one could percieve as rediculous notion) but it's as strong as what i know.. and makes the "one" fading off so intense. cuz in thinking through that phrase logically you're just fuckin like.. stunned at the similarities are and that's why that vox section is so short..
my interepretaion
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie....unconditional one."
i never heard that interpretation of this third line in my ears, but it seems to be undisputed on the boards, i think i'm the only one that hears this.
"You would not witness my eyes, my evidence"
In comparison it may seem to feel like a change in tone, but it's so much more real to me. the accepted interpretation is romanticizing. think about like Judith ya know? they didn't agree. and from what i understand/assume of maynards beliefs they are in juxtiposition with his mothers. hers are faith based ,his in evidence,
which gives this beautiful:
set as i am, and as important as i am to you, you'll never see what i know, it's an unconditional (one could percieve as rediculous notion) but it's as strong as what i know.. and makes the "one" fading off so intense. cuz in thinking through that phrase logically you're just fuckin like.. stunned at the similarities are and that's why that vox section is so short..
my interepretaion
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06-25-2006, 05:49 PM
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I think I see where you're going with this, but the whole song loses its meaning and its ambiguity/struggle if the line were such because Maynard is then no longer wrestling with her faith and demanding that she receive her dues, he's slapping her in the face with a harsh "I-told-you-so, why-didn't-you-listen-to-me". It doesn't make sense that after this line he would go on to suggest she say "Hallelujah, it's time for you to bring me home" either because he just refuted her faith as meaningless because she refused to see HIS eyes and HIS evidence...
Also, from just a lyrical perspective, the lines read (and are understood) as such:
"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional one"
-----> as set as I am (in, admitted, arrogance) against all the "believers", demanding proof from them (this is what BURDEN OF PROOF means), YOU were the only one who could really be a witness to me because you were UNCONDITIONAL about how you lived your life...
hope this helps!
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06-25-2006, 05:49 PM
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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"You would not witness my eyes, my evidence"
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I think I see where you're going with this, but the whole song loses its meaning and its ambiguity/struggle if the line were such because Maynard is then no longer wrestling with her faith and demanding that she receive her dues, he's slapping her in the face with a harsh "I-told-you-so, why-didn't-you-listen-to-me". It doesn't make sense that after this line he would go on to suggest she say "Hallelujah, it's time for you to bring me home" either because he just refuted her faith as meaningless because she refused to see HIS eyes and HIS evidence...
Also, from just a lyrical perspective, the lines read (and are understood) as such:
"set as I am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of proof tossed upon the believers
you were my witness, my eyes, my evidence
Judith Marie, unconditional one"
-----> as set as I am (in, admitted, arrogance) against all the "believers", demanding proof from them (this is what BURDEN OF PROOF means), YOU were the only one who could really be a witness to me because you were UNCONDITIONAL about how you lived your life...
hope this helps!
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Figured I would post what I believe the lyrics to be.
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set as i am in my ways and my arrogance
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I agree with the rast of the lyrics, but I've always heard " Judith Marie, unconditional warmth." at this part.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
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Figured I would post what I believe the lyrics to be.
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set as i am in my ways and my arrogance
burden of truth tossed upon non-believers
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I agree with the rast of the lyrics, but I've always heard " Judith Marie, unconditional warmth." at this part.
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06-26-2006, 04:08 PM
I guess my hearing must be abnormal, because from the first listen (followed by multiple headphone listenings) I have always thought the lyrics were:
"High is the way, but all eyes are upon the ground."
I don't understand all the commotion surrounding this part, the whole 'wave' theory doesn't fit or make sense with any other lyrics in the song. I could be wrong, but this is what I've always heard. Fuckin incredible lyrics, btw.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
I guess my hearing must be abnormal, because from the first listen (followed by multiple headphone listenings) I have always thought the lyrics were:
"High is the way, but all eyes are upon the ground."
I don't understand all the commotion surrounding this part, the whole 'wave' theory doesn't fit or make sense with any other lyrics in the song. I could be wrong, but this is what I've always heard. Fuckin incredible lyrics, btw.
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i hear something similar
"high is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground"
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I guess my hearing must be abnormal, because from the first listen (followed by multiple headphone listenings) I have always thought the lyrics were:
"High is the way, but all eyes are upon the ground."
I don't understand all the commotion surrounding this part, the whole 'wave' theory doesn't fit or make sense with any other lyrics in the song. I could be wrong, but this is what I've always heard. Fuckin incredible lyrics, btw.
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Re: 04 - 10,000 Days (Wings pt 2) lyrics
i hear something similar
"high is the way, but our eyes are upon the ground"
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Originally Posted by reflection11
I guess my hearing must be abnormal, because from the first listen (followed by multiple headphone listenings) I have always thought the lyrics were:
"High is the way, but all eyes are upon the ground."
I don't understand all the commotion surrounding this part, the whole 'wave' theory doesn't fit or make sense with any other lyrics in the song. I could be wrong, but this is what I've always heard. Fuckin incredible lyrics, btw.
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