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i wonder who the reliable source is.
I heard from a reliable source that satan is the reliable source.
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i wonder who the reliable source is.
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I heard from a reliable source that satan is the reliable source.
this kid knows whats up.
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The band were big fans of the Da Vinci Code weren't they, I read the book, but can't remember, are these titles related to the book somehow??
They made fun of it actually.
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The band were big fans of the Da Vinci Code weren't they, I read the book, but can't remember, are these titles related to the book somehow??
They made fun of it actually.
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10,000 days = 27 years

2006 - 27 = 1979

read the following:

In 1958, Albert Hofmann synthesized psilocybin, the active ingredient that makes "magic mushrooms" magic. In 1979, he wrote LSD: Mein Sorgenkind, which was translated into English as LSD: My Problem Child. His CD, Lob des Schauens ("In Praise of Observation"), was recorded only in German.

In 1979 he also wrote a book titled "Plants of the Gods: Origins of Hallucinogenic Use"

Maybe it's just me but 10,000 days, Albert Hofmann, LSD, Tool, spoken german language and magic mushrooms just makes perfect sense to me...

Not as song titles though... but I'd be on the lookout for something similar tho Die Eier on the new album

BTW the album is NOT entitled 10,000 days.


...rosetta broke my stones and my codes...
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

10,000 days = 27 years

2006 - 27 = 1979

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In 1958, Albert Hofmann synthesized psilocybin, the active ingredient that makes "magic mushrooms" magic. In 1979, he wrote LSD: Mein Sorgenkind, which was translated into English as LSD: My Problem Child. His CD, Lob des Schauens ("In Praise of Observation"), was recorded only in German.

In 1979 he also wrote a book titled "Plants of the Gods: Origins of Hallucinogenic Use"

Maybe it's just me but 10,000 days, Albert Hofmann, LSD, Tool, spoken german language and magic mushrooms just makes perfect sense to me...

Not as song titles though... but I'd be on the lookout for something similar tho Die Eier on the new album

BTW the album is NOT entitled 10,000 days.


...rosetta broke my stones and my codes...
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Why not? I certainly hope it is.[/QUOTE]

Well, personally I have nothing against it, it has actually kinda grown on me but I just have a feeling it will be something else

my feelings and hunches aside though, Blair (among others) has confirmed it so let's say it will be called 10,000 days...

can't wait
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Why not? I certainly hope it is.[/QUOTE]

Well, personally I have nothing against it, it has actually kinda grown on me but I just have a feeling it will be something else

my feelings and hunches aside though, Blair (among others) has confirmed it so let's say it will be called 10,000 days...

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In 1979 he also wrote a book titled "Plants of the Gods: Origins of Hallucinogenic Use"
Yo i bought his book on LSD yesterday. It has a chapter about his journey to Mexico, where he describes how he took his synthesized Psilocybin pills to the shamans who did those mushroom celebrations and callings, when i read that i felt strongly remembered to Blair┤s newsletter from his Mexico holidays. Really, it could have something in common. Hofmann also described how all the (western) people involved in the rituals had seen "mexican art" visuals and where surprised by that.

It is a good read
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In 1979 he also wrote a book titled "Plants of the Gods: Origins of Hallucinogenic Use"
Yo i bought his book on LSD yesterday. It has a chapter about his journey to Mexico, where he describes how he took his synthesized Psilocybin pills to the shamans who did those mushroom celebrations and callings, when i read that i felt strongly remembered to Blair┤s newsletter from his Mexico holidays. Really, it could have something in common. Hofmann also described how all the (western) people involved in the rituals had seen "mexican art" visuals and where surprised by that.

It is a good read
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I'll have to check that out.

So we might actually be onto something here...?
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

I'll have to check that out.

So we might actually be onto something here...?
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Rossetta Stoned thats fuckin stupid. Tool are geniuseseses. Does this mean we can write off 10,000 days too?
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Rossetta Stoned thats fuckin stupid. Tool are geniuseseses. Does this mean we can write off 10,000 days too?
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i don┤t know, but i love the idea how Tool could actually try to picture that whole hallucinogenic stuff from a different view angle than they did with Lateralus.

Hofmann┤s journey to Mexico was in September 1962, however the first redaction of "LSD: my problem child" appeared in 1979.

This could actually be something. In that book, he also writes about his thoughts on Dr. Timothy Leary, and how he is disappointed that his "medicine", LSD, was turned into THE drug in the sixties. If there are any, Timothy Leary is one person to blame for that (Cary Grant too).

Well when i read "Lost Keys (blame Hofmann)" yesterday, i thought "ka-ching, Leary" instantly. Could be because i was reading the book yeaterday.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

i don┤t know, but i love the idea how Tool could actually try to picture that whole hallucinogenic stuff from a different view angle than they did with Lateralus.

Hofmann┤s journey to Mexico was in September 1962, however the first redaction of "LSD: my problem child" appeared in 1979.

This could actually be something. In that book, he also writes about his thoughts on Dr. Timothy Leary, and how he is disappointed that his "medicine", LSD, was turned into THE drug in the sixties. If there are any, Timothy Leary is one person to blame for that (Cary Grant too).

Well when i read "Lost Keys (blame Hofmann)" yesterday, i thought "ka-ching, Leary" instantly. Could be because i was reading the book yeaterday.
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I do like what Maynard says about the political side of the album.
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I do like what Maynard says about the political side of the album.
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off topic: the Da Vinci Code is a very superficial book, read the Foucault Pendulum by Umberto Eco if you want a real good one.
I second that! Finally someone who questions what they're fed! (by the way it's Foucault's Pendulum, sorry i can be a bit pedantic...

As for the rocksound thing, it's good to see that Tool are still running circles around us, as usual. At least they're still as ambiguous as ever!
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off topic: the Da Vinci Code is a very superficial book, read the Foucault Pendulum by Umberto Eco if you want a real good one.
I second that! Finally someone who questions what they're fed! (by the way it's Foucault's Pendulum, sorry i can be a bit pedantic...

As for the rocksound thing, it's good to see that Tool are still running circles around us, as usual. At least they're still as ambiguous as ever!
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tool probably didn't even record a new album, they're just fucking with us a bunch
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tool probably didn't even record a new album, they're just fucking with us a bunch
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the titles don't mean much.. i mean, if they told us that some of the new titles from Lateralus were "the grudge," "mantra," and "reflection," before it was released, I would have thought it was stupid...
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the titles don't mean much.. i mean, if they told us that some of the new titles from Lateralus were "the grudge," "mantra," and "reflection," before it was released, I would have thought it was stupid...
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yea but c'mon... rosetta stoned...lost keys

those pieces just don't seem to fit...
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yea but c'mon... rosetta stoned...lost keys

those pieces just don't seem to fit...
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i like them. Though yeah, they┤re probably bullshit. If the titles are bullshit, 10,000 Days is too.

Like i said: Lost Keys = the sad story of Timothy Leary.
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i like them. Though yeah, they┤re probably bullshit. If the titles are bullshit, 10,000 Days is too.

Like i said: Lost Keys = the sad story of Timothy Leary.
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Like i said: Lost Keys = the sad story of Timothy Leary.
I'm with you on THAT ONE.
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Like i said: Lost Keys = the sad story of Timothy Leary.
I'm with you on THAT ONE.
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Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) seems a LOT better than Rosetta Stoned...
That sounds like a name Limp Bizkit would give one of their songs...
Though Hooker With a Penis, at first glance, doesn't seem too terribly Toolish either.
I'm still not too enthusiastic about "10,000 days" though. It just seems fabricated to me.
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Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) seems a LOT better than Rosetta Stoned...
That sounds like a name Limp Bizkit would give one of their songs...
Though Hooker With a Penis, at first glance, doesn't seem too terribly Toolish either.
I'm still not too enthusiastic about "10,000 days" though. It just seems fabricated to me.
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Face it guys, what we have here are three tracktitles from the new album... I would bet my life on the fact that these titles are real... I can imagine "Rosetta Stoned" being about drugs and the actual stone itself, same for the much talked about LK.

I can't see TOOL doing the same screw-around with the media thing again... Blair has posted on the website that "10,000 days" is the title, so it makes sense that the band are now giving the press titles...

Although I would have preferred it if the band gave TA members (like myself) the tracklisting first, but it wasn't meant to be.

We have 3 track titles, which are real, I will bet my life on it... So let's move on.
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Face it guys, what we have here are three tracktitles from the new album... I would bet my life on the fact that these titles are real... I can imagine "Rosetta Stoned" being about drugs and the actual stone itself, same for the much talked about LK.

I can't see TOOL doing the same screw-around with the media thing again... Blair has posted on the website that "10,000 days" is the title, so it makes sense that the band are now giving the press titles...

Although I would have preferred it if the band gave TA members (like myself) the tracklisting first, but it wasn't meant to be.

We have 3 track titles, which are real, I will bet my life on it... So let's move on.
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oops...what an earth did I just stumble upon here?

http://mdma.net/alexander-shulgin/dr-ecstasy.html

...just some chatter about this guy alexander shulgin and LSD and Timothy Leary and the Rosetta Stone and some interesting molecular patterns...
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oops...what an earth did I just stumble upon here?

http://mdma.net/alexander-shulgin/dr-ecstasy.html

...just some chatter about this guy alexander shulgin and LSD and Timothy Leary and the Rosetta Stone and some interesting molecular patterns...
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Here we go! The supposed "meaning" of the title 10,000 days.

" Every day the worldwide economy burns an amount of energy the planet required 10,000 days to create....We need a different kind of growth, one that reduces and changes the inputs of raw materials and energy, and simultaneously eliminates the outputs of waste."

- Paul Hawken, The Ecology of Commerce

politics, bush, oil, war... need I say more?
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

Here we go! The supposed "meaning" of the title 10,000 days.

" Every day the worldwide economy burns an amount of energy the planet required 10,000 days to create....We need a different kind of growth, one that reduces and changes the inputs of raw materials and energy, and simultaneously eliminates the outputs of waste."

- Paul Hawken, The Ecology of Commerce

politics, bush, oil, war... need I say more?
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i will be extremely pissed if this album is political
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i will be extremely pissed if this album is political
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I just can┤t find any of the names bad. On Rosetta Stone (wiki):

Rosetta Stone is also used as a metaphor to refer to anything that is a critical key to a process of decryption, translation, or a difficult problem, e.g., "the Rosetta stone of immunology", "thalamo-cortical rhythms, the Rosetta stone of a subset of neurological disorders", "Arabidopsis, the Rosetta stone of flowering time (fossils)".

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I just can┤t find any of the names bad. On Rosetta Stone (wiki):

Rosetta Stone is also used as a metaphor to refer to anything that is a critical key to a process of decryption, translation, or a difficult problem, e.g., "the Rosetta stone of immunology", "thalamo-cortical rhythms, the Rosetta stone of a subset of neurological disorders", "Arabidopsis, the Rosetta stone of flowering time (fossils)".

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rosetta stoned sounds like something a 6th grader would say and then giggle about
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rosetta stoned sounds like something a 6th grader would say and then giggle about
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also, Hooker with a Penis (giggle)
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Im not sure what i think of a political tool album. i study politics and its currently driving me up the wall, im not sure if i want it to invade yet another aspect of my life *runs and hides from politics*
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Im not sure what i think of a political tool album. i study politics and its currently driving me up the wall, im not sure if i want it to invade yet another aspect of my life *runs and hides from politics*
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Rosetta is a lovely suburb. There are many stones there.
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Rosetta is a lovely suburb. There are many stones there.
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If the album is political, or politically motivated, it is worth pointing out that Vietnam was also known as the ten thousand day war. Look it up.
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If the album is political, or politically motivated, it is worth pointing out that Vietnam was also known as the ten thousand day war. Look it up.
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Here we go! The supposed "meaning" of the title 10,000 days.

" Every day the worldwide economy burns an amount of energy the planet required 10,000 days to create....We need a different kind of growth, one that reduces and changes the inputs of raw materials and energy, and simultaneously eliminates the outputs of waste."

- Paul Hawken, The Ecology of Commerce

politics, bush, oil, war... need I say more?
Without even going into politics and bush stuff, I like this explanation of the title, about how humans waste what is given to them.
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Here we go! The supposed "meaning" of the title 10,000 days.

" Every day the worldwide economy burns an amount of energy the planet required 10,000 days to create....We need a different kind of growth, one that reduces and changes the inputs of raw materials and energy, and simultaneously eliminates the outputs of waste."

- Paul Hawken, The Ecology of Commerce

politics, bush, oil, war... need I say more?
Without even going into politics and bush stuff, I like this explanation of the title, about how humans waste what is given to them.
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03-07-2006, 07:15 AM
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Does it really matter what the titles of the songs are? Or even the title of the album for that matter?

I mean would you really dislike Pushit if instead the name was something dumb?

Who gives a shit about the titles. All that matters is the actual music.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

Does it really matter what the titles of the songs are? Or even the title of the album for that matter?

I mean would you really dislike Pushit if instead the name was something dumb?

Who gives a shit about the titles. All that matters is the actual music.
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Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) seems a LOT better than Rosetta Stoned...
That sounds like a name Limp Bizkit would give one of their songs...
Though Hooker With a Penis, at first glance, doesn't seem too terribly Toolish either.
I'm still not too enthusiastic about "10,000 days" though. It just seems fabricated to me.
do you know what the rosetta stone is?
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

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Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) seems a LOT better than Rosetta Stoned...
That sounds like a name Limp Bizkit would give one of their songs...
Though Hooker With a Penis, at first glance, doesn't seem too terribly Toolish either.
I'm still not too enthusiastic about "10,000 days" though. It just seems fabricated to me.
do you know what the rosetta stone is?
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do you know what the rosetta stone is?
There's a few theories floating around here somewhere, is there not?
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

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do you know what the rosetta stone is?
There's a few theories floating around here somewhere, is there not?
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There's a few theories floating around here somewhere, is there not?
We don't need people theorizing about what the Rosetta Stone is. Go to the British Museum and see it for yourself. While you're there, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles, too.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

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There's a few theories floating around here somewhere, is there not?
We don't need people theorizing about what the Rosetta Stone is. Go to the British Museum and see it for yourself. While you're there, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles, too.
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We don't need people theorizing about what the Rosetta Stone is. Go to the British Museum and see it for yourself. While you're there, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles, too.
i genuinely have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not. honestly, i dont have a clue what the rosetta stone is, and i don't want to know just yet. i was just pointing out to someone it had been discussed earlier in the thread.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

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We don't need people theorizing about what the Rosetta Stone is. Go to the British Museum and see it for yourself. While you're there, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles, too.
i genuinely have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not. honestly, i dont have a clue what the rosetta stone is, and i don't want to know just yet. i was just pointing out to someone it had been discussed earlier in the thread.
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i genuinely have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not. honestly, i dont have a clue what the rosetta stone is, and i don't want to know just yet. i was just pointing out to someone it had been discussed earlier in the thread.
No problem, mate. I am being serious, though, you should go see both of them if you have the chance.
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i genuinely have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not. honestly, i dont have a clue what the rosetta stone is, and i don't want to know just yet. i was just pointing out to someone it had been discussed earlier in the thread.
No problem, mate. I am being serious, though, you should go see both of them if you have the chance.
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No problem, mate. I am being serious, though, you should go see both of them if you have the chance.
If i'm ever near it, i shall certainly take a gander =]
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No problem, mate. I am being serious, though, you should go see both of them if you have the chance.
If i'm ever near it, i shall certainly take a gander =]
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I remember watching a documetary or something about it. But I don't remember much.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.

I remember watching a documetary or something about it. But I don't remember much.
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