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Old 11-17-2006, 06:33 PM   #1
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No One Talks About This Song

Why? This is obviously a "forgotten" track by many fans, because many of you guys don't seem to care about this song.

Personally, I can't add anything to the discussion, but I just wanted to know why this song is so ignored.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:28 AM   #2
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

It's one of my favorites on Undertow, right behind "Intolerance" and "Sober."

I think the Henry Rollins part is atmospherically cool.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:32 AM   #3
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

What's left to talk about? I hear Henry Rollins has a gambling problem...
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

its one of my less favourite tool songs. every tool song (to me) is a favourite song.

Omg! where am i going with this??
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

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Re: No One Talks About This Song

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Old 11-18-2006, 07:46 AM   #7
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

Maybe a lot of people just like the songs that are or were played on the radio; but this song is great just as all their songs are (to me, anyway). I've never heard anything much about 4 degrees or Undertow or Flood, but they all kick ass.
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

I always liked this song, I just don't really listen to Unertow a whole lot anymore.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:46 PM   #9
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

I feel like this is probably my favorite song off Undertow...good beginning, then they switch into a foreboding beat with a great spoken word part by HR, then just start jamming straight the fuck down at the end. Bottom FTW
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

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Maybe a lot of people just like the songs that are or were played on the radio; but this song is great just as all their songs are (to me, anyway). I've never heard anything much about 4 degrees or Undertow or Flood, but they all kick ass.
"4 Degrees" is my second favorite song from Undertow behind "Prison Sex", then followed by "Undertow" and "Flood".

I guess we've got similar musical taste, that's cool.
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:35 PM   #11
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

This song is about an enemy that lies within, but I'm still uncertain about this part:

"I'm on my knees and burning.
My piss and moans are the fuel that set my head on fire.
So smell my soul burning."

That kinda sounds like the dude is having prostate problems... :\
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:45 AM   #12
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I don't know about any prostate problems mr. keenan might have been or
might still be having, but "bottom" is definitely one of my all time favorite
Tool songs...period. It's helped me get through alot of rough times and always
pushed me to keep going, no matter how bad a situation might seem...because
it taught me that even at the bottom there are certain things that keep me alive...
emotions everyone usually tries to avoid like : hatred, weakness, and guilt. So yeah, I guess we could start a coupla posts about this song...
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:04 PM   #13
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

Glad people are talking about this song.

Keep it up, I'm tired of this song being ignored by Tool fans.
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:16 AM   #14
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

Bottom rules!!!
especialy that it can be heard in three versions!
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

I love this song, the henry rollins part is possibly my quite favorite.

I tend to keep my lyrical opinion to myself tho...
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

bottom isnt really one of my favorites, it just seems to slow down the momentum in the album, i will admit to skipping this track more often than others
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

The part that always grabs me is when Maynard comes back in after Rollins' speech (which was also powerful and mood-setting). The vocals, the concept, it all fit together well. I've also noticed this song is pretty criminally underrated, but then I'm sure someone reading this right now is saying I'm overrating the song, so..
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

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The part that always grabs me is when Maynard comes back in after Rollins' speech (which was also powerful and mood-setting). The vocals, the concept, it all fit together well. I've also noticed this song is pretty criminally underrated, but then I'm sure someone reading this right now is saying I'm overrating the song, so..
I wouldn't and I think that all Tool fans, whether or not they like the song, would agree that it is underrated in atleast one way compared to the songs of Tool's relatively short catalogue, as well as to the songs on Undertow.
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

I wouldn't say it is ignored, but it seems to be one of those songs where you either love it or hate it. I personally love it.
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

Bottom is awesome. IMO, Henry Rollins kinda ruins the song. It would be much better if MJK was doing the talking
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

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Why? This is obviously a "forgotten" track by many fans, because many of you guys don't seem to care about this song.

Personally, I can't add anything to the discussion, but I just wanted to know why this song is so ignored.
This song is not ignored. It's not even the song from Undertow the fewest people on this page talk about (which is the Swamp Song).
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

I still love this song. It relly adds to the darkness of the album. Great screams at the end, some of his best vocals
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:00 PM   #23
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Bottom rules!!!
especialy that it can be heard in three versions!
Which would those be?

I really like "Bottom" and think HR is a nice addition to the track. It's got a cool 'pop like' rhythem to it .
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Old 12-23-2006, 07:41 AM   #24
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

I can't listen to too much of this song because I end wanting to kick the shit out of something!...That goes for much of the Undertow album. Pure aggression around every corner.
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

^Haha...yeah, undertow has always had that ability to get the blood pumpin'. It's the rawest most energetic Tool album, imo. I don't need an aggresive song to make me go off though, I pretty much wake up every morning ready to ruckus.

Let me just reinforce the fact that I have always loved this song and still do. They get right to it in this one, no long intro, just right to the grind. I like the Henry Rollins bit in the middle too, it doesn't bother me at all.....this song jams.
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Maybe a lot of people just like the songs that are or were played on the radio; but this song is great just as all their songs are (to me, anyway). I've never heard anything much about 4 degrees or Undertow or Flood, but they all kick ass.
I agree with u on that one.bottom 4 degrees and flood are some of the best songs on undertow imo.
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

this song makes me feel tough
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it is indeed underrated.
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Maybe a lot of people just like the songs that are or were played on the radio; but this song is great just as all their songs are (to me, anyway). I've never heard anything much about 4 degrees or Undertow or Flood, but they all kick ass.
all those songs kick ass!!!!!!

& bottom is one of my fav TOOL songs ever!!!!




SHIT ADDS UP AT THE BOTTOM!!!

HAHAH how can u not love it?!?!
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

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Bottom rules!!!
especialy that it can be heard in three versions!
Explain that one to me.

And this is my favorite Tool song. Undertow is my favorite Tool CD. I guess for me, I love this CD because its all about emotion.


aaand, Flood is fucking amazing.
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Re: No One Talks About This Song

It seems to me that "Bottom" isn't talked about too much because it's such a crushing song. I always get this feeling of being OVERWHELMED whenever I listen to this song. I love "Bottom", it is an awesome song and I think people don't talk about it because it thinking about it might just be too much for some people.
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I fucking love this song probably currently my favorite tool song
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Explain that one to me.
All I can think of is a live version that's floating around on net with Zak de la Rocha doing the Henry Rollins part... I don't know of a third version though...
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All I can think of is a live version that's floating around on net with Zak de la Rocha doing the Henry Rollins part... I don't know of a third version though...
You can also find versions with Maynard doing the spoken part, and it includes the "I will make weapons out of my imperfections" line from the Undertow liner notes. The way I heard it, Rollins just cut the line out when he modified Maynard's oringinal lyrics for that part of the song.

I've heard of the de la Rocha version, but I've never heard it. Anyone have an mp3?
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The Rocha version is pretty fucking awesome. You can easily find an mp3 of it online, legally. I think it's illegal for me to post the link though. Sorry, bro.
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Already taken care of...
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could some one PM that zack de la rocha version?? pleasy
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same here please. "It leaves me dead inside!!!"
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I dont think its forgotten, or not one of the favorites... i just think a lot of people may (personally) view the track as more of a vehicle to lash out at any of their various inner demons, or otherwise whatever may be fucking them over at the time of listening.
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I was listening to Undertow today and Bottom felt like the best song on the whole album.
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