That's refreshing to hear. I was beginning to think that nothing I posted here mattered.

[cue for Window Licker to say it doesn't]

So there are other criteria...

I don't understand what you're getting at. I don't see anywhere I contradicted myself.

You said: "The only criteria for a good album is that you like it. "

Then you said: "to say that there is nothing left to talk about is just assinine. You can talk about why you like it, or why you dislike it. You can talk about how the drums and guitar create an eerie effect and give you crazy dreams."

I still don't see anything wrong. For me to consider Dark Side of the Moon good means that I like it. Which I do. I like how Brain Damage flows right into Eclipse and they complement each other, but aren't necessary to get the point across. I like the sax on Us and Them. I like how Breathe (Reprise) is at the end of Time because personally I think it makes a nice transition into The Great Gig In The Sky.

Those are all reasons I like the album and they are all things to talk about. Each of those aspects of the album are encompassed in me liking the album. It all comes back to me liking it.

Word.

Alistair_Carson, you're an idiot. Tool doesn't want your benefit of a doubt or anybody's for that matter. They are proud of the album and don't think its a step back. Wake up.

I just listened to some of Porcupine Tree's In Absentia and it doesn't sound to me like Aenima at all.
I don't think they or Opeth have anything in common with Tool.

roffle

rosetta stoned is the answer to you little maggots who still think maynard owes them something or has to come up with a "message"...I love this song and I really enjoy the stupidity of some people here...he could sing about carrots and people on lsd again as he did before...really I am so fucking glad that other than on lateralus they are now able to separate meaningful songs from "hua- we are all one consciousness"-messages, which are true but as this forum shows there are very little people who understand that...who even pull alex grey down...who pull everything down because they are probably childish new-metal-freaks without one single little connection to the psychedelic-subculture that tool is in a way a part of......did you watch "the passion of christ" with the music of lateralus?

I'm pretty sure english isn't the native language of elektrik lädyländ, but man, that paragraph gave me a headache. I understand your point though.

For being in a TOOL cover band, and obviously a pretty good musician, you sure are a gullible dumbass. So disappointing to read about all you "hoax" theorists. You're the ones that are going to truly be disappointed. I can't wait to laugh at all of you for not accepting TOOL's greatest work to date. Your loss. 10,000 Days Rules!!

lol.......

...lmao...

"It's not just internet folk who downloaded it."

ugh I pee'd.

Just wait till you hear the real fucking album. Goddamn, you mother fuckers are delusional and retarded. No wonder Tool fans get a bad wrap. Bunch of 16 year old spastic little shits. The reason there are rumors this isn't real is because the album that we all STOLE is incomplete, you will understand when you hear it for yourself in it's "entirety". Then you will also understand that this is infact a masterpiece of sound. The leak is simply incomplete. I have a physical copy of Vicarious and it is vastly different than the leak in it's layers and mix.

oh yeah, DancingFlame... you are dead on brother.

I've been a lurker on these forums for quite some time now, but all this recent bashing the new album has finally caused me to want to reply. I think the album is a masterpiece and if people would actually take the time to do a little research on the lyrics, the would realize that the album is amazing if not only for the songs Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days. If we go back to Judith by APC and read the lyrics, Maynard is venting his frustration towards his mother who was paralyzed (for a unknown reason to me) for a large part of her life, but never veered from her faith. "Pray to one who left you broken down and paralyzed..." he screams as he cannot understand the devotion that this crippled woman displays. He is angry that she has been 'punished' in his eyes, yet she remains blindly steadfast in her beliefs. Fastforward to the new album now, and the death of Maynards mother last year, and we have the songs Wings for Marie and 10,000 days essentially expressing Maynards loss and respect for this woman who has finally passed after "10,000 days in the fire". Judith Marie was paralyzed for 27 and some odd years - roughly 10,000 days before she died. These are Tool's most personal songs to date. Maynard tells his mother that when she arrives in heavan to shake her hand in the air and say "send me the Spirit, the Son and the Father, tell them their pillar of faith has arrived. It's my time. It's my time now. Give me my... give me my wings!" Lines like "who is left now to lead them(us) all to Zion?" Maynard realizes that if anyone deserves to go to heaven and be saved, his mother was the perfect example of it. You can picture nearly choking back the tears as he pleads for his mother to bring him up to her. He may not have lived the life that she lived, but has never 'lived a lie" or never "took a life", and only wants to be reunited with his lost mother when the time comes. It's a eulogy and a prayer all in one. One of the most touching songs I've ever heard in my life. Everyone who has been saying that they are dissappointed in this album because it's all about the MUSIC, it doesn't ROCK enough for them, or whatever.... they are certainly right about one thing.. It IS about the music, and this is the music that Tool has created for themselves. Not for anyone else. If they were in this to create fans, they wouldn't produce a record only every 5 years. it's about getting together and expressing the things that have happened to them. The things that have taken place in the world since time has passed. These are the lyrics that Maynard has chosen to speak, to vent. These are the chords the Adam Jones has decided to play, etc etc. It what makes THEM happy. That's what music is about. If other people like it, it's only an added bonus.

What will be better than May 2? The day that all of these "TOOL" fans who say this album sucks and that if it's real they hate the way the band is going actually give up and stop posting in fan forums. There's a lot of people that love this album (because it fucking rocks) just like every other TOOL album, some people are gonig to hate it. I'm sick of all the negativity and doubt. This whole hoax thing is prolonging that part of the release. For some reason I just had to post that.

go back to the prp

only thing better than may 2nd is a night with Zeradin's sister.

The fun is awesome. It would be great if Tool suddenly pushed back the release date to say July. Imagine a few more months of speculation? My head already hurts.

i could see it happening, and them laughing their balls off at us watching us squirm

slamminsalmon = best username EVER.

Dude, too many people have tickets to the show there... makes me too angry.

/agree

(lol, shit, i guess i play that game a little too much)...

Well people are already eyeing up june 6...

What's going to be better than may 2nd?? JUNE 6TH!!!!!!!
OMG CONTROVERSIAL

haha I know... exactly. Luckily I'll have all the time inbetween to enjoy this album.

The better thing ON May 2nd is the new Pearl Jam.

Binaural is better than 10,000 Days.

Oh no, it isn't....!

Tool > * > Pearl Jam > Spice Girls

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA²

Just when I thought you couldn't get any funnier, you go and do this. Classic stuf.

cause I'm just not hearing the brilliance. Jambi - rocks. That's about it. The rest sounds like something me and my buddies could have slapped together in a weekend. Tres lame. Me no likey.

"Tres lame. Me no likey"

what are you, twelve? speak english, freak.

lol

Yes I am twelve, times 3...well almost. I'll draw your attention to lame, me and no which are all in english.

get off the forums, and listen closer.

mayhaps that's the answer...but mayhaps not.

Go ahead and try and create something on par with this in the weekend, if you can't,you FAIL. All these people say they could do better, then how about you DO IT. Thanks.

Wow you sure know how to recycle.