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04-28-2006, 12:26 AM

:) This thread has lost me. My words are there, read them if you want (1st page). I dont know if my answer was taken seriously or not, but either way, I hope all of you have an enjoyable weekend, and that you find the self that each of you are seeking in your lives!

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:) This thread has lost me. My words are there, read them if you want (1st page). I dont know if my answer was taken seriously or not, but either way, I hope all of you have an enjoyable weekend, and that you find the self that each of you are seeking in your lives!

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04-28-2006, 12:28 AM

what a STUPID thread.. shut the * up!!!!!!!

sorry, had to.
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what a STUPID thread.. shut the * up!!!!!!!

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04-28-2006, 12:29 AM

sometimes people are assholes, who cares. it's not like you're friends with him.
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sometimes people are assholes, who cares. it's not like you're friends with him.
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04-28-2006, 12:31 AM

im just noting that theres a huge discrepancy between
the man who belittles people who dont even deserve it
and the man who writes lyrics like
im here to heal the broken and damaged met along the way..
everyone is waging their own personal war deep down..
would you take a heaping shit on a dog dying in the street?
no?
then why would he consistently treat your average joe like he's less than...
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im just noting that theres a huge discrepancy between
the man who belittles people who dont even deserve it
and the man who writes lyrics like
im here to heal the broken and damaged met along the way..
everyone is waging their own personal war deep down..
would you take a heaping shit on a dog dying in the street?
no?
then why would he consistently treat your average joe like he's less than...
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04-28-2006, 12:31 AM

anyone here notice a connection between the 10k days artwork and the lyrics for the SONG Laterlus ((This is not hoax/conspiracy shit....just thought i was a col coincidence))

Black then white are all i see = the art on the disc itself
red and yellow then ame to be = the yellow/orange/red side panels around the disc ((web of being?))
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anyone here notice a connection between the 10k days artwork and the lyrics for the SONG Laterlus ((This is not hoax/conspiracy shit....just thought i was a col coincidence))

Black then white are all i see = the art on the disc itself
red and yellow then ame to be = the yellow/orange/red side panels around the disc ((web of being?))
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04-28-2006, 12:39 AM

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im just noting that theres a huge discrepancy between
the man who belittles people who dont even deserve it
and the man who writes lyrics like
im here to heal the broken and damaged met along the way..
everyone is waging their own personal war deep down..
would you take a heaping shit on a dog dying in the street?
no?
then why would he consistently treat your average joe like he's less than...
"sometimes, people are just assholes"
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im just noting that theres a huge discrepancy between
the man who belittles people who dont even deserve it
and the man who writes lyrics like
im here to heal the broken and damaged met along the way..
everyone is waging their own personal war deep down..
would you take a heaping shit on a dog dying in the street?
no?
then why would he consistently treat your average joe like he's less than...
"sometimes, people are just assholes"
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04-28-2006, 12:41 AM

good night guys. its 4:40 AM here, and I have to be up at 7 am. Sigh, I wish we were allowed the opportunity to forgo sleep. How much it has consumed my life...

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good night guys. its 4:40 AM here, and I have to be up at 7 am. Sigh, I wish we were allowed the opportunity to forgo sleep. How much it has consumed my life...

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04-28-2006, 12:42 AM

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anyone here notice a connection between the 10k days artwork and the lyrics for the SONG Laterlus ((This is not hoax/conspiracy shit....just thought i was a col coincidence))

Black then white are all i see = the art on the disc itself
red and yellow then ame to be = the yellow/orange/red side panels around the disc ((web of being?))
heh. very cool observation. =)
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anyone here notice a connection between the 10k days artwork and the lyrics for the SONG Laterlus ((This is not hoax/conspiracy shit....just thought i was a col coincidence))

Black then white are all i see = the art on the disc itself
red and yellow then ame to be = the yellow/orange/red side panels around the disc ((web of being?))
heh. very cool observation. =)
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04-28-2006, 12:48 AM

How could you not be an asshole to that interviewer? His bouncing stuttering moronic personality drove me insane just watching the video, actually standing there with him would make me want to kill him. Good job to Maynard for being able to keep his composure.

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How could you not be an asshole to that interviewer? His bouncing stuttering moronic personality drove me insane just watching the video, actually standing there with him would make me want to kill him. Good job to Maynard for being able to keep his composure.

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04-28-2006, 12:59 AM

I think he acts like an asshole so geeks dont bother him on the street. Hes too successfull to be like that all the time. I mean its not like hes not gonna move on from his mothers death and his fathers abuse or whatever. Hes just too dam rich, and gets too much pussy. My two cents
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I think he acts like an asshole so geeks dont bother him on the street. Hes too successfull to be like that all the time. I mean its not like hes not gonna move on from his mothers death and his fathers abuse or whatever. Hes just too dam rich, and gets too much pussy. My two cents
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04-28-2006, 01:00 AM

Can someone point me to a (relatively recent) interview or two (preferrably video clip) where he doesn't look like he wants to strangle the interviewer? Maybe even cracking a smile? ...or is this just who he is, regardless of the situation he's in?

I'm not being sarcastic or anything I genuinely want to see one, I haven't really watched many interviews of him.
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Can someone point me to a (relatively recent) interview or two (preferrably video clip) where he doesn't look like he wants to strangle the interviewer? Maybe even cracking a smile? ...or is this just who he is, regardless of the situation he's in?

I'm not being sarcastic or anything I genuinely want to see one, I haven't really watched many interviews of him.
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04-28-2006, 01:00 AM

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I think he acts like an asshole so geeks dont bother him on the street. Hes too successfull to be like that all the time. I mean its not like hes not gonna move on from his mothers death and his fathers abuse or whatever. Hes just too dam rich, and gets too much pussy. My two cents

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I think he acts like an asshole so geeks dont bother him on the street. Hes too successfull to be like that all the time. I mean its not like hes not gonna move on from his mothers death and his fathers abuse or whatever. Hes just too dam rich, and gets too much pussy. My two cents

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04-28-2006, 01:03 AM

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And there I was thinking I was doing somethig worthwhile mentioning my relevant point of view. Sorry Wordsmith, I forget there are people like you around...
Yeah, I don't know what the deal was with his comment. The points you made were insightful.
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And there I was thinking I was doing somethig worthwhile mentioning my relevant point of view. Sorry Wordsmith, I forget there are people like you around...
Yeah, I don't know what the deal was with his comment. The points you made were insightful.
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04-28-2006, 01:11 AM

It could be he just doesn't have the appropriate social skills to NOT come across as an asshole. I know that's the case with myself, and with many people with an anxiety or personality disorder. It's hard to smile and pretend everything's cool when all you want to do is GET THE FUCK OUT of whatever excruciatingly awkward situation you're in. Compound that with a full blown case of celebrity, and you've got the perfect ingredients for an aloof wise-ass like the Nard.
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It could be he just doesn't have the appropriate social skills to NOT come across as an asshole. I know that's the case with myself, and with many people with an anxiety or personality disorder. It's hard to smile and pretend everything's cool when all you want to do is GET THE FUCK OUT of whatever excruciatingly awkward situation you're in. Compound that with a full blown case of celebrity, and you've got the perfect ingredients for an aloof wise-ass like the Nard.
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04-28-2006, 01:26 AM

Lots of artists have been assholes. It's a long, grand tradition. Wagner and Picasso were complete egomaniacs that were known for public indignations towards fans. Salvador Dali basically abandoned all his old friends and family when he got swept up by his own popularity. Hemingway was a major asshole. Jack Nicholson, John Lennon, countless athletes... some people just rarely mix well with thier public image.

It never means much, though, when you focus where you should: their art. I never enjoy meeting artists. I don't even bother any more. I realized one day that the thing I'm really interested in is their art. I'm not interested in what they have to say about it. What they think about it has little to do with how I will experience it. It is THE MOST awkward thing in the world to speak with someone you admire after they play a show or show their work, because once you put on the "fanboy" mask, it is impossible for them to be themselves with you. They might act nice and sign something, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole situation is forced and unnatural. If they have the propensity for being a jerk to people that act all nervous and earnest, then I'm not surprised at all when it happens that way.

I don't expect artists to be like politicians. In fact, I'd be more sickened if they were. It'd be nice if they were polite to everyone, but when people can't be themselves around a musician, what do you expect? If that guy had been totally calm and natural, the results would probably have been different. I actually didn't think his questions were that bad.
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Lots of artists have been assholes. It's a long, grand tradition. Wagner and Picasso were complete egomaniacs that were known for public indignations towards fans. Salvador Dali basically abandoned all his old friends and family when he got swept up by his own popularity. Hemingway was a major asshole. Jack Nicholson, John Lennon, countless athletes... some people just rarely mix well with thier public image.

It never means much, though, when you focus where you should: their art. I never enjoy meeting artists. I don't even bother any more. I realized one day that the thing I'm really interested in is their art. I'm not interested in what they have to say about it. What they think about it has little to do with how I will experience it. It is THE MOST awkward thing in the world to speak with someone you admire after they play a show or show their work, because once you put on the "fanboy" mask, it is impossible for them to be themselves with you. They might act nice and sign something, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole situation is forced and unnatural. If they have the propensity for being a jerk to people that act all nervous and earnest, then I'm not surprised at all when it happens that way.

I don't expect artists to be like politicians. In fact, I'd be more sickened if they were. It'd be nice if they were polite to everyone, but when people can't be themselves around a musician, what do you expect? If that guy had been totally calm and natural, the results would probably have been different. I actually didn't think his questions were that bad.
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04-28-2006, 01:30 AM

I didn't really think Maynard was being an ass in this particular case, but I agree that he possibly has been in others. This time he just wasn't going to humor the guy just because it was an interview. Yeah, he doesn't come off as "nice" here, but then I don't think he was being indecent either, and being personable is not a requirement, just an admirable quality. Who knows what Maynard thinks about being gracious to people? I think graciousness is important, but who knows what he thinks. He could have been thinking that this interview was detrimental to the total package that Tool is promoting, but you'll never know.

Yeah, he could have been friendly to the guy, and tried to understand where the guy was coming from, like Danny was, (I think Danny, however, was cussing the interviewer under his breath) but Maynard might see that as himself having to be fake.

By the way, that interview really needed to chill out.
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I didn't really think Maynard was being an ass in this particular case, but I agree that he possibly has been in others. This time he just wasn't going to humor the guy just because it was an interview. Yeah, he doesn't come off as "nice" here, but then I don't think he was being indecent either, and being personable is not a requirement, just an admirable quality. Who knows what Maynard thinks about being gracious to people? I think graciousness is important, but who knows what he thinks. He could have been thinking that this interview was detrimental to the total package that Tool is promoting, but you'll never know.

Yeah, he could have been friendly to the guy, and tried to understand where the guy was coming from, like Danny was, (I think Danny, however, was cussing the interviewer under his breath) but Maynard might see that as himself having to be fake.

By the way, that interview really needed to chill out.
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04-28-2006, 01:36 AM

people! he's been an asshole since day 1. cool and chill guy with a cool wit? THAT GUY IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE. and so am i, and so should you. end of story!
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people! he's been an asshole since day 1. cool and chill guy with a cool wit? THAT GUY IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE. and so am i, and so should you. end of story!
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people! he's been an asshole since day 1. cool and chill guy with a cool wit? THAT GUY IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE. and so am i, and so should you. end of story!

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people! he's been an asshole since day 1. cool and chill guy with a cool wit? THAT GUY IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE. and so am i, and so should you. end of story!

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04-28-2006, 02:38 AM

Eddie Vedder is the coolest.
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My baby's in love with him ;(
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04-28-2006, 02:50 AM

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Shake your fist at the gates saying:
--- he got fisted -- stinkfist makes more sense now



I have come home now.
-- play on words --- CUM


Fetch me the spirit.
- fetch .. dogs... beastiality.. maynards mom made him suck off goats


The son, and the father. --
both of them got to enjoy his mom


Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
pillar = maynards DICK which was in his moms ass

It's time now, my time now.
to get naked and party

Give me my, give me my, wings.
drinks rebull so he can fuck his crip mom in the anallove
You're a dick. Maynard is an asshole but you can't talk at all.
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Shake your fist at the gates saying:
--- he got fisted -- stinkfist makes more sense now



I have come home now.
-- play on words --- CUM


Fetch me the spirit.
- fetch .. dogs... beastiality.. maynards mom made him suck off goats


The son, and the father. --
both of them got to enjoy his mom


Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
pillar = maynards DICK which was in his moms ass

It's time now, my time now.
to get naked and party

Give me my, give me my, wings.
drinks rebull so he can fuck his crip mom in the anallove
You're a dick. Maynard is an asshole but you can't talk at all.
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04-28-2006, 03:02 AM

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No. But I GUARANTEE you that if you saw Maynard walking down the street and you said, not in a psychotic fan type of way, just "Hey Maynard! Whats up man?!" He'd ether blow by you or say some smart ass snide remark. Yea, he tries to protect his personal image by not getting too intimate with the fans, but to just stop and chat with a fan...........I mean come on. You're buying his records and putting food on his child's plate and he knows it would make your day to just chat with your rock star idol, but instead he chooses to piss on you.

Exactly, so the best thing to say to Maynard in the street:
(in a loud imitative shout)


FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK YOU BUDDY,
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK YOU BUDDY.

Then he would know you're a fan, and that he's a cunt.

Plus on this album he has no right to be smug, his vocals are the weakest part.
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No. But I GUARANTEE you that if you saw Maynard walking down the street and you said, not in a psychotic fan type of way, just "Hey Maynard! Whats up man?!" He'd ether blow by you or say some smart ass snide remark. Yea, he tries to protect his personal image by not getting too intimate with the fans, but to just stop and chat with a fan...........I mean come on. You're buying his records and putting food on his child's plate and he knows it would make your day to just chat with your rock star idol, but instead he chooses to piss on you.

Exactly, so the best thing to say to Maynard in the street:
(in a loud imitative shout)


FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK YOU BUDDY,
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK YOU BUDDY.

Then he would know you're a fan, and that he's a cunt.

Plus on this album he has no right to be smug, his vocals are the weakest part.
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if you think maynard isn't an asshole
"Guest 272: TOOL AND MANSON SHOULD TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MK: 272 should leave the room"

"Guest 113: MJK - IS THAT YOU DOING THE COMEDY THIG AT THE BEGINING OF 3RD EYE?
MK: no that's bill hicks dickwad "

"Guest 361: you still have not responded to my question
MK: what was your question fuckwad"

Hahahahahaha, ok, so sometimes he is a funny asshole, but seriously, for most of that read you'd think it was a fucking bot replying.
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if you think maynard isn't an asshole
"Guest 272: TOOL AND MANSON SHOULD TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MK: 272 should leave the room"

"Guest 113: MJK - IS THAT YOU DOING THE COMEDY THIG AT THE BEGINING OF 3RD EYE?
MK: no that's bill hicks dickwad "

"Guest 361: you still have not responded to my question
MK: what was your question fuckwad"

Hahahahahaha, ok, so sometimes he is a funny asshole, but seriously, for most of that read you'd think it was a fucking bot replying.
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04-28-2006, 03:22 AM

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MJK reminds me of my bi-polar friend. When i go to visit him I'm never sure if I'm gonna end up with the asshole version or the cool version of him. He's kinda like an eccentric visual artist, rarely interviewed and rarely sociable in public forumn. I'd probably be like him if I was in his shoes. Just cause he provides us with an artfom doesn't mean he has to put on his tap shoes and dance for our amusement.

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"Maynard probably has an asshole yes."
I've often wondered the same thing. Disposition is a psychological term used to describe someone's emotional presentation. "Watch the weather change" speaks to this possible lability in mood.
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MJK reminds me of my bi-polar friend. When i go to visit him I'm never sure if I'm gonna end up with the asshole version or the cool version of him. He's kinda like an eccentric visual artist, rarely interviewed and rarely sociable in public forumn. I'd probably be like him if I was in his shoes. Just cause he provides us with an artfom doesn't mean he has to put on his tap shoes and dance for our amusement.

P.S.-Rubb you made me spill my drink LOL
"Maynard probably has an asshole yes."
I've often wondered the same thing. Disposition is a psychological term used to describe someone's emotional presentation. "Watch the weather change" speaks to this possible lability in mood.
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Nailed it. "11 and she was gone"? come on.
by his mom's boyfriend?
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Nailed it. "11 and she was gone"? come on.
by his mom's boyfriend?
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I think he acts like an asshole so geeks dont bother him on the street. Hes too successfull to be like that all the time. I mean its not like hes not gonna move on from his mothers death and his fathers abuse or whatever. Hes just too dam rich, and gets too much pussy. My two cents
I think you are believing what you want to believe. He probably acts like an asshole because he is an asshole.
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I think he acts like an asshole so geeks dont bother him on the street. Hes too successfull to be like that all the time. I mean its not like hes not gonna move on from his mothers death and his fathers abuse or whatever. Hes just too dam rich, and gets too much pussy. My two cents
I think you are believing what you want to believe. He probably acts like an asshole because he is an asshole.
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I've often wondered the same thing. Disposition is a psychological term used to describe someone's emotional presentation. "Watch the weather change" speaks to this possible lability in mood.
yeah, but bipolar? not a trace of mania in the lyrics and he seems not at all manic in concerts. he just stands there (at least the 5 times I've seen him). he doesn't even seem depressed. i don' t think he's got a psychological disorder, i think he's just arrogant, at least in interviews. maybe he just hates doing interviews. i dunno.
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I've often wondered the same thing. Disposition is a psychological term used to describe someone's emotional presentation. "Watch the weather change" speaks to this possible lability in mood.
yeah, but bipolar? not a trace of mania in the lyrics and he seems not at all manic in concerts. he just stands there (at least the 5 times I've seen him). he doesn't even seem depressed. i don' t think he's got a psychological disorder, i think he's just arrogant, at least in interviews. maybe he just hates doing interviews. i dunno.
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yeah, but bipolar? not a trace of mania in the lyrics and he seems not at all manic in concerts. he just stands there (at least the 5 times I've seen him). he doesn't even seem depressed. i don' t think he's got a psychological disorder, i think he's just arrogant, at least in interviews. maybe he just hates doing interviews. i dunno.
I'm not saying he's bi-polar. Bi-polar disorder is diagnosed based on extreme moods. Manic to major depression. I'd find it hard to believe he would have achieved this level of success if he had such a disease. I still maintain Disposition is about personality disorders, but it could be from people he's known (like a girlfriend) not himself.
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yeah, but bipolar? not a trace of mania in the lyrics and he seems not at all manic in concerts. he just stands there (at least the 5 times I've seen him). he doesn't even seem depressed. i don' t think he's got a psychological disorder, i think he's just arrogant, at least in interviews. maybe he just hates doing interviews. i dunno.
I'm not saying he's bi-polar. Bi-polar disorder is diagnosed based on extreme moods. Manic to major depression. I'd find it hard to believe he would have achieved this level of success if he had such a disease. I still maintain Disposition is about personality disorders, but it could be from people he's known (like a girlfriend) not himself.
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04-28-2006, 03:47 AM

I once read an interview where he says its his job to write, record music and perform. He was basically saying he's not being paid to be your friend.

That being said: being cool to somebody just saying hello and not freaking out shouldn't be too much to ask. If you see him why don't you try? You'll never know unless you do and probably shouldn't judge. I wouldn't exactly approach him if he was with his child because its just off limits. I might not even approach him at a show while being swarmed by fans backstage.

And being asked the same stupid questions is probably irritating to somebody with a propensity for being an asshole in those situations.

I do agree with him in the sense that he is not being paid to be a friend. He never really puts his image out there and is not specifically recognizable (nothing distinguishing about his appearance): I think that is for a reason.


All of that being said: he still shouldn't be a dick.
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I once read an interview where he says its his job to write, record music and perform. He was basically saying he's not being paid to be your friend.

That being said: being cool to somebody just saying hello and not freaking out shouldn't be too much to ask. If you see him why don't you try? You'll never know unless you do and probably shouldn't judge. I wouldn't exactly approach him if he was with his child because its just off limits. I might not even approach him at a show while being swarmed by fans backstage.

And being asked the same stupid questions is probably irritating to somebody with a propensity for being an asshole in those situations.

I do agree with him in the sense that he is not being paid to be a friend. He never really puts his image out there and is not specifically recognizable (nothing distinguishing about his appearance): I think that is for a reason.


All of that being said: he still shouldn't be a dick.
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04-28-2006, 03:55 AM

Art is an expression of self. We pretty much all agree that Tool's music is art. What I have a problem with is how Tool's music "preaches" thinking, acceptance and inner divinity. But in interviews, Maynard is not really accpetant of anyone else. I find this hypocrytical. Sure, Good Charolette and Limp Bizkit suck. But, who is Maynard to judge them? Who's to say they aren't following their hearts with their music. You don't have to like something to be tollerant of it.
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Art is an expression of self. We pretty much all agree that Tool's music is art. What I have a problem with is how Tool's music "preaches" thinking, acceptance and inner divinity. But in interviews, Maynard is not really accpetant of anyone else. I find this hypocrytical. Sure, Good Charolette and Limp Bizkit suck. But, who is Maynard to judge them? Who's to say they aren't following their hearts with their music. You don't have to like something to be tollerant of it.
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Shake your fist at the gates saying:
--- he got fisted -- stinkfist makes more sense now



I have come home now.
-- play on words --- CUM


Fetch me the spirit.
- fetch .. dogs... beastiality.. maynards mom made him suck off goats


The son, and the father. --
both of them got to enjoy his mom


Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
pillar = maynards DICK which was in his moms ass

It's time now, my time now.
to get naked and party

Give me my, give me my, wings.
drinks rebull so he can fuck his crip mom in the anallove
Lol I hope the OP realised this is a post completely bagging you out.
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Shake your fist at the gates saying:
--- he got fisted -- stinkfist makes more sense now



I have come home now.
-- play on words --- CUM


Fetch me the spirit.
- fetch .. dogs... beastiality.. maynards mom made him suck off goats


The son, and the father. --
both of them got to enjoy his mom


Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
pillar = maynards DICK which was in his moms ass

It's time now, my time now.
to get naked and party

Give me my, give me my, wings.
drinks rebull so he can fuck his crip mom in the anallove
Lol I hope the OP realised this is a post completely bagging you out.
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Art is an expression of self. We pretty much all agree that Tool's music is art. What I have a problem with is how Tool's music "preaches" thinking, acceptance and inner divinity. But in interviews, Maynard is not really accpetant of anyone else. I find this hypocrytical. Sure, Good Charolette and Limp Bizkit suck. But, who is Maynard to judge them? Who's to say they aren't following their hearts with their music. You don't have to like something to be tollerant of it.
Good point, dude. And whey you're the age they were when they (Limp Bizkit etc...) started playing that is just what you do. I think Tool started relatively late (compared to most of those bands) and it was a good thing. If they started 10 years earlier maybe it would be a mess. Having a broader perspective and more experience behind you in life is a big deal when writing music / art or forming a band.
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Art is an expression of self. We pretty much all agree that Tool's music is art. What I have a problem with is how Tool's music "preaches" thinking, acceptance and inner divinity. But in interviews, Maynard is not really accpetant of anyone else. I find this hypocrytical. Sure, Good Charolette and Limp Bizkit suck. But, who is Maynard to judge them? Who's to say they aren't following their hearts with their music. You don't have to like something to be tollerant of it.
Good point, dude. And whey you're the age they were when they (Limp Bizkit etc...) started playing that is just what you do. I think Tool started relatively late (compared to most of those bands) and it was a good thing. If they started 10 years earlier maybe it would be a mess. Having a broader perspective and more experience behind you in life is a big deal when writing music / art or forming a band.
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I just quickly read throught the posts in this thread and I have to agree with Maynard. I wouldn't want most of you guys to come up to me and talk to me either...
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I just quickly read throught the posts in this thread and I have to agree with Maynard. I wouldn't want most of you guys to come up to me and talk to me either...
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Guest 354: its a man on his knees screaming..i made it out of bone..Ill give it to ya at the show..Ill throw it up on stage
MK: don't throw anything toward the stage
MK: you'll get thrown out...
MK: send it to the address on the album cover.
Guest 354: Maynard..Can I give it to someone to hand to ya? Maybe a guard?
MK: sure
MK: like I'm gonna carry it around for the rest of th etour in my fuckin luggage

Haha. Fair play. Made me laugh.
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Guest 354: its a man on his knees screaming..i made it out of bone..Ill give it to ya at the show..Ill throw it up on stage
MK: don't throw anything toward the stage
MK: you'll get thrown out...
MK: send it to the address on the album cover.
Guest 354: Maynard..Can I give it to someone to hand to ya? Maybe a guard?
MK: sure
MK: like I'm gonna carry it around for the rest of th etour in my fuckin luggage

Haha. Fair play. Made me laugh.
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Guest 354: its a man on his knees screaming..i made it out of bone..Ill give it to ya at the show..Ill throw it up on stage
MK: don't throw anything toward the stage
MK: you'll get thrown out...
MK: send it to the address on the album cover.
Guest 354: Maynard..Can I give it to someone to hand to ya? Maybe a guard?
MK: sure
MK: like I'm gonna carry it around for the rest of th etour in my fuckin luggage

Haha. Fair play. Made me laugh.
That is pretty funny. And the fan is being a knucklehead.

It must be nice to have people give you free shit all day long.

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Guest 354: its a man on his knees screaming..i made it out of bone..Ill give it to ya at the show..Ill throw it up on stage
MK: don't throw anything toward the stage
MK: you'll get thrown out...
MK: send it to the address on the album cover.
Guest 354: Maynard..Can I give it to someone to hand to ya? Maybe a guard?
MK: sure
MK: like I'm gonna carry it around for the rest of th etour in my fuckin luggage

Haha. Fair play. Made me laugh.
That is pretty funny. And the fan is being a knucklehead.

It must be nice to have people give you free shit all day long.

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04-28-2006, 04:09 AM

I just think he doesn't like being publicized very much, and that's entirely his preference, and a very understandable one. As he stated in a recent interview, just because he's in a band doesn't mean he has to think a certain way. If you think he's an asshole because he's not cheery during interviews, that's your prerogative. I think he interviews well because he's himself.
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I just think he doesn't like being publicized very much, and that's entirely his preference, and a very understandable one. As he stated in a recent interview, just because he's in a band doesn't mean he has to think a certain way. If you think he's an asshole because he's not cheery during interviews, that's your prerogative. I think he interviews well because he's himself.
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04-28-2006, 04:26 AM

he is INFJ

for those of you who don't know what this means, just google it. I don't know if this offers an explanation, but it does offer some insight.

At first it appears as some corny self help pop psychology crap, but it's based directly off Jungian principles so there is some (if not alot of) validity to it.

He's not intentionally a dick he's just highly protective of himself, and in this world a person like him really does need to be, or people will try and squeeze blood out of you like a turnip.

Anyway, it's just my theory, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one. My 2 cents.
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he is INFJ

for those of you who don't know what this means, just google it. I don't know if this offers an explanation, but it does offer some insight.

At first it appears as some corny self help pop psychology crap, but it's based directly off Jungian principles so there is some (if not alot of) validity to it.

He's not intentionally a dick he's just highly protective of himself, and in this world a person like him really does need to be, or people will try and squeeze blood out of you like a turnip.

Anyway, it's just my theory, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one. My 2 cents.
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he is INFJ

for those of you who don't know what this means, just google it. I don't know if this offers an explanation, but it does offer some insight.

At first it appears as some corny self help pop psychology crap, but it's based directly off Jungian principles so there is some (if not alot of) validity to it.

He's not intentionally a dick he's just highly protective of himself, and in this world a person like him really does need to be, or people will try and squeeze blood out of you like a turnip.

Anyway, it's just my theory, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one. My 2 cents.
Your absolutelty right. What do these brats want? Fuckin boycott TOOL if you think your hard earned money is buying the character outside of TOOL...... don't buy the album. I'd rather him save every piece of who he is with TOOL and express it on the music and stage. Who the fuck cares about Maynard outside of TOOL or his other creative outlets? That's what he chooses so be it. He's not running for the peoples republic you MTV saturated robots. Wait let me guess..... you want an autograph and a "stop and chat" when you see him at your local Wal Mart. This is what ruins the core of mystery and reserve for talented artists........ shitty fans that feel entitled to something outside of the cd they paid for. Thank god he doesn't meet with some of you, I think there wouldn't be our beloved TOOL, if he met talking monkeys like the ingrates on here..... myself included.
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he is INFJ

for those of you who don't know what this means, just google it. I don't know if this offers an explanation, but it does offer some insight.

At first it appears as some corny self help pop psychology crap, but it's based directly off Jungian principles so there is some (if not alot of) validity to it.

He's not intentionally a dick he's just highly protective of himself, and in this world a person like him really does need to be, or people will try and squeeze blood out of you like a turnip.

Anyway, it's just my theory, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one. My 2 cents.
Your absolutelty right. What do these brats want? Fuckin boycott TOOL if you think your hard earned money is buying the character outside of TOOL...... don't buy the album. I'd rather him save every piece of who he is with TOOL and express it on the music and stage. Who the fuck cares about Maynard outside of TOOL or his other creative outlets? That's what he chooses so be it. He's not running for the peoples republic you MTV saturated robots. Wait let me guess..... you want an autograph and a "stop and chat" when you see him at your local Wal Mart. This is what ruins the core of mystery and reserve for talented artists........ shitty fans that feel entitled to something outside of the cd they paid for. Thank god he doesn't meet with some of you, I think there wouldn't be our beloved TOOL, if he met talking monkeys like the ingrates on here..... myself included.
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I enjoy tools music and have never invested much time in understanding their personalities until recently when i was curious to see what they behaved like in interviews. If i was just to judge maynards personality by his lyrics i would imagine a smiling polite guy, who cares deep down for people, with an edge of cynical wit.
Watching interviews danny seems like a real likeable guy but maynard is just a fucking cock. Its not even " oh hes a funny asshole" hes just an expressionless dick with half wit comments, up his own ass about how enlightened he is. Maybe he does this so that dumbasses dont look up to him, or maybe he's truly this way but i have to wonder why its so hard for him to smile and relax and break the monotone voice mold. How insecure is he that he has to use his cold expressionless demeanor to make people insecure and submit to him?
I remember that i met mike patton when i was 18 after a concert and i was nervous at first thinking maybe he's some egotistical rock star, but the guy took the time to talk with me over 30 minutes about life in general. He laughed and joked around, he didnt take himself seriously.
Honestly why do so many fucktards on this board look to maynard as some amazing intellectual because he likes apocalypse now and can say a few snide remarks in an interview. I still love tools music and appreciate maynards talent but from observing his treatment of others he can go fuck himself

Fuck it he's allowed to be after what he has given us over the years.

Seriously tho, i just saw the Holland MTV clip and Maynard is as big a prick as Danny is a nice guy. Good cop bad cop..
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I enjoy tools music and have never invested much time in understanding their personalities until recently when i was curious to see what they behaved like in interviews. If i was just to judge maynards personality by his lyrics i would imagine a smiling polite guy, who cares deep down for people, with an edge of cynical wit.
Watching interviews danny seems like a real likeable guy but maynard is just a fucking cock. Its not even " oh hes a funny asshole" hes just an expressionless dick with half wit comments, up his own ass about how enlightened he is. Maybe he does this so that dumbasses dont look up to him, or maybe he's truly this way but i have to wonder why its so hard for him to smile and relax and break the monotone voice mold. How insecure is he that he has to use his cold expressionless demeanor to make people insecure and submit to him?
I remember that i met mike patton when i was 18 after a concert and i was nervous at first thinking maybe he's some egotistical rock star, but the guy took the time to talk with me over 30 minutes about life in general. He laughed and joked around, he didnt take himself seriously.
Honestly why do so many fucktards on this board look to maynard as some amazing intellectual because he likes apocalypse now and can say a few snide remarks in an interview. I still love tools music and appreciate maynards talent but from observing his treatment of others he can go fuck himself

Fuck it he's allowed to be after what he has given us over the years.

Seriously tho, i just saw the Holland MTV clip and Maynard is as big a prick as Danny is a nice guy. Good cop bad cop..
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you people need to grow some balls.

"boohoo he was mean. wwwaaaahhhhh"

grow up and live in the real world...people dont have to be nice to you just cause they are a public figure.
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you people need to grow some balls.

"boohoo he was mean. wwwaaaahhhhh"

grow up and live in the real world...people dont have to be nice to you just cause they are a public figure.
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