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This could just be me but i've noticed a recurring biblical theme. There are many references to god, heaven, angelic beings, and prophets. Tell me what you think?

Jambi - Son = Jesus
Wings for Marie (Pt 1), 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) - Judith Marie = Angel
Rosetta Stoned - unknown person = Fail Prophet
Right in Two - God and how he has blessed us with such fortunate abilities yet we are not worthy and have abused what he as given us.
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10,000 days theme: biblical?

This could just be me but i've noticed a recurring biblical theme. There are many references to god, heaven, angelic beings, and prophets. Tell me what you think?

Jambi - Son = Jesus
Wings for Marie (Pt 1), 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) - Judith Marie = Angel
Rosetta Stoned - unknown person = Fail Prophet
Right in Two - God and how he has blessed us with such fortunate abilities yet we are not worthy and have abused what he as given us.
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Nah

edit: Some parts yeah, not the overall vibe I get from it

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Nah

edit: Some parts yeah, not the overall vibe I get from it

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This could just be me but i've noticed a recurring biblical theme. There are many references to god, heaven, angelic beings, and prophets. Tell me what you think?

Jambi - Son = Jesus
Wings for Marie (Pt 1), 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) - Judith Marie = Angel
Rosetta Stoned - unknown person = Fail Prophet
Right in Two - God and how he has blessed us with such fortunate abilities yet we are not worthy and have abused what he as given us.
If you could just further explain your theory?
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This could just be me but i've noticed a recurring biblical theme. There are many references to god, heaven, angelic beings, and prophets. Tell me what you think?

Jambi - Son = Jesus
Wings for Marie (Pt 1), 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) - Judith Marie = Angel
Rosetta Stoned - unknown person = Fail Prophet
Right in Two - God and how he has blessed us with such fortunate abilities yet we are not worthy and have abused what he as given us.
If you could just further explain your theory?
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I didn't really develop too much of a theory to be honest but really, i just noticed some connections.
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I didn't really develop too much of a theory to be honest but really, i just noticed some connections.
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Their music can make reference to just about anything religious without it being "biblical", ya' know
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Their music can make reference to just about anything religious without it being "biblical", ya' know
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Could be... except to be honest i tend to think of Jambi more as relating to Jesus, the son, "of the holy father" lol jkjk. And Inner Eulogy, even though there might be some Buddhist influence in some of their music, i think just like opiate the song, they are specifically talking about Christianity. The idea of angels, Jesus, and god creating us seems more Christian than other religons.
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Could be... except to be honest i tend to think of Jambi more as relating to Jesus, the son, "of the holy father" lol jkjk. And Inner Eulogy, even though there might be some Buddhist influence in some of their music, i think just like opiate the song, they are specifically talking about Christianity. The idea of angels, Jesus, and god creating us seems more Christian than other religons.
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I have to agree, it does have a sort of biblical/christian type vibe through most the album. I think it's sort of paying respects to Maynard's mother's faith.
I'm sure his mother was a jew
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I have to agree, it does have a sort of biblical/christian type vibe through most the album. I think it's sort of paying respects to Maynard's mother's faith.
I'm sure his mother was a jew
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anyone respectable person losing a parent after such a long time in a condition like hers, is more than likely to exercise a few different spiritual paths.

it shows in his writing. but instrumentally? how would you consider it biblical? everything you have mentioned is only lyrical, 1/4 of the band. do you think the other 3 guys are all up into jesus?
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anyone respectable person losing a parent after such a long time in a condition like hers, is more than likely to exercise a few different spiritual paths.

it shows in his writing. but instrumentally? how would you consider it biblical? everything you have mentioned is only lyrical, 1/4 of the band. do you think the other 3 guys are all up into jesus?
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Could be... except to be honest i tend to think of Jambi more as relating to Jesus, the son, "of the holy father" lol jkjk. And Inner Eulogy, even though there might be some Buddhist influence in some of their music, i think just like opiate the song, they are specifically talking about Christianity. The idea of angels, Jesus, and god creating us seems more Christian than other religons.
Well, I guess I should clarify myself a little better. While I agree that there are references to religion (christianity in some cases if you truly need to be specific), however, I just hate to hear some bible thumper running around actually thinking Maynard went and got religious, or found Jesus, haha, hence the April fool's joke years ago. While I agree that he may have found a better personal "spiritual" path as he's grown, he most definitely has not actually sided with any specific religion; even if he pays homage to his mother's faith. I believe the references he does make to "father", for instance, are meant subjectively.

And don't misconstrue what I was saying either, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone saying that this is what they've said here, but I have heard it from some in the past which holds about as much water as the same ones that claimed they were satan worshippers and liked to sleep with dead bodies (necrophilia).

You know, those unintelligent gullible types.
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Could be... except to be honest i tend to think of Jambi more as relating to Jesus, the son, "of the holy father" lol jkjk. And Inner Eulogy, even though there might be some Buddhist influence in some of their music, i think just like opiate the song, they are specifically talking about Christianity. The idea of angels, Jesus, and god creating us seems more Christian than other religons.
Well, I guess I should clarify myself a little better. While I agree that there are references to religion (christianity in some cases if you truly need to be specific), however, I just hate to hear some bible thumper running around actually thinking Maynard went and got religious, or found Jesus, haha, hence the April fool's joke years ago. While I agree that he may have found a better personal "spiritual" path as he's grown, he most definitely has not actually sided with any specific religion; even if he pays homage to his mother's faith. I believe the references he does make to "father", for instance, are meant subjectively.

And don't misconstrue what I was saying either, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone saying that this is what they've said here, but I have heard it from some in the past which holds about as much water as the same ones that claimed they were satan worshippers and liked to sleep with dead bodies (necrophilia).

You know, those unintelligent gullible types.
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I have to agree, it does have a sort of biblical/christian type vibe through most the album. I think it's sort of paying respects to Maynard's mother's faith.
after trashing his mother's name on "judith", it's no wonder he found the error in his ways and hence this album is full of "biblical" references...
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I have to agree, it does have a sort of biblical/christian type vibe through most the album. I think it's sort of paying respects to Maynard's mother's faith.
after trashing his mother's name on "judith", it's no wonder he found the error in his ways and hence this album is full of "biblical" references...
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Trashed her name? I wouldn't say that. And you realize that song written before she died? Don't really get what you're trying to say...
cmon. he belittles her for being faithful (judith), and then praises her for always having faith (10000 days).

My first impression after listening to judith was that she was a moron. my first impression after listening to 10000 days was that she was an angel.

Is it really that hard to grasp?
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Trashed her name? I wouldn't say that. And you realize that song written before she died? Don't really get what you're trying to say...
cmon. he belittles her for being faithful (judith), and then praises her for always having faith (10000 days).

My first impression after listening to judith was that she was a moron. my first impression after listening to 10000 days was that she was an angel.

Is it really that hard to grasp?
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But I think Maynard still stands by his "Fuck your God" belted out in Judith.
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Initially in the song, I say “fuck your god,” but, I’m not really saying fuck the ACTUAL god, I’m just saying fuck YOUR god – the god that would isolate people, and punish. Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” In the original text, that word was Yahweh or Jehovah, which means “light” and “love.” We’ve kind of twisted it to mean this guy with a beard passing judgment. But it’s not. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was “love” and “light” – infinite, unconditional, and without judgment. At that point, you can pretty much close the book. It’s very crazy to me, everything that’s going on in the world in the name of a religion. Fundamentalist extremists just messing stuff up. If they all just get together and realize: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was LOVE.” Seems like a pretty simple concept, but people just can’t quite seem to grasp it…
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But I think Maynard still stands by his "Fuck your God" belted out in Judith.
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Initially in the song, I say “fuck your god,” but, I’m not really saying fuck the ACTUAL god, I’m just saying fuck YOUR god – the god that would isolate people, and punish. Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” In the original text, that word was Yahweh or Jehovah, which means “light” and “love.” We’ve kind of twisted it to mean this guy with a beard passing judgment. But it’s not. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was “love” and “light” – infinite, unconditional, and without judgment. At that point, you can pretty much close the book. It’s very crazy to me, everything that’s going on in the world in the name of a religion. Fundamentalist extremists just messing stuff up. If they all just get together and realize: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was LOVE.” Seems like a pretty simple concept, but people just can’t quite seem to grasp it…
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I always thought that 10,000 days was about vices, (and that does include religion) Vicarious - the whole living vicarious through someone elses life or watching graphic things on tv. The Pot is sometimes considered to be about the hypocritalness of condemming recreational drug use while using other, more disscreet drugs, be it a prescibed or a simple stimulant such as coffee. Right in two was the one I thought that was about religion. I thought it was taken from the perspective of two angels talking. Although the idea of religion as the old 'opiate of the masses' idea is just one idea you could take from it I guess
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I always thought that 10,000 days was about vices, (and that does include religion) Vicarious - the whole living vicarious through someone elses life or watching graphic things on tv. The Pot is sometimes considered to be about the hypocritalness of condemming recreational drug use while using other, more disscreet drugs, be it a prescibed or a simple stimulant such as coffee. Right in two was the one I thought that was about religion. I thought it was taken from the perspective of two angels talking. Although the idea of religion as the old 'opiate of the masses' idea is just one idea you could take from it I guess
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Was that supposed to contradict what I said? Because I don't feel that it did.
just referencing
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Was that supposed to contradict what I said? Because I don't feel that it did.
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I wouldn't say Maynard was trying to call her a moron. I saw it as just frustration, because he simply could not understand her undying faith, even in such a ridiculously terrible position.
I agree with this. Maynard's frustration in this song is an attack on God for letting his mother down although she is so devoted to him.
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While true, 10,000 Days is nearly opposite to Judith, I don't think it's correcting the "error in his ways". It's more just looking at her attitude in another light. From the aspect of any Christian, her unconditional faith is incredibly admirable, and she could very well be praised when she reaches Heaven. But I think Maynard still stands by his "Fuck your God" belted out in Judith.
Yes, i think this song is just a way of saying; "I don't believe in your religion, but i respect that you do. I hope you find the peace you were looking for, farewell..."
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I wouldn't say Maynard was trying to call her a moron. I saw it as just frustration, because he simply could not understand her undying faith, even in such a ridiculously terrible position.
I agree with this. Maynard's frustration in this song is an attack on God for letting his mother down although she is so devoted to him.
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While true, 10,000 Days is nearly opposite to Judith, I don't think it's correcting the "error in his ways". It's more just looking at her attitude in another light. From the aspect of any Christian, her unconditional faith is incredibly admirable, and she could very well be praised when she reaches Heaven. But I think Maynard still stands by his "Fuck your God" belted out in Judith.
Yes, i think this song is just a way of saying; "I don't believe in your religion, but i respect that you do. I hope you find the peace you were looking for, farewell..."
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Was that supposed to contradict what I said? Because I don't feel that it did.
No every reply is an attack, you know.
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I wouldn't say Maynard was trying to call her a moron. I saw it as just frustration, because he simply could not understand her undying faith, even in such a ridiculously terrible position.

My grandma is a very faithful Christian. I find it incredibly hard to grasp her perspective, but I would never call her a moron.

While true, 10,000 Days is nearly opposite to Judith, I don't think it's correcting the "error in his ways". It's more just looking at her attitude in another light. From the aspect of any Christian, her unconditional faith is incredibly admirable, and she could very well be praised when she reaches Heaven. But I think Maynard still stands by his "Fuck your God" belted out in Judith.
Exactly, glad to see somebody that gets it.
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I wouldn't say Maynard was trying to call her a moron. I saw it as just frustration, because he simply could not understand her undying faith, even in such a ridiculously terrible position.

My grandma is a very faithful Christian. I find it incredibly hard to grasp her perspective, but I would never call her a moron.

While true, 10,000 Days is nearly opposite to Judith, I don't think it's correcting the "error in his ways". It's more just looking at her attitude in another light. From the aspect of any Christian, her unconditional faith is incredibly admirable, and she could very well be praised when she reaches Heaven. But I think Maynard still stands by his "Fuck your God" belted out in Judith.
Exactly, glad to see somebody that gets it.
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I never thought as 10,000 Days to be biblical in any way, shape or form. There are hints of religious aspects perhaps, but in a mocking way.
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Actually, I'm only about an hour from Chicago...
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okay, back on track now I say.
=-) Where were we again?
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Load Allmarshie! I like 10k better than the bible. It's easier to dance to.
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Load Allmarshie! I like 10k better than the bible. It's easier to dance to.
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Load Allmarshie! I like 10k better than the bible. It's easier to dance to.
That damn book won't even fit in my CD-player anyway :P
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Load Allmarshie! I like 10k better than the bible. It's easier to dance to.
That damn book won't even fit in my CD-player anyway :P
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