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Old 04-08-2020, 08:55 PM   #7241
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HBD to Undertow! My first live experience was Lollapalooza Irwindale with Bill Hicks introducing them.

Those were the (angry) days eh?

It's not mutating which is good but if China doesn't clean up their act, this will happen again and again.
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"Yeah Tool is fucking amazing. But there’s a big chunk of their fan base that think they’ve become thought provoking geniuses just from listening to them."
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This is long past being a Chinese problem.
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This is long past being a Chinese problem.
Root cause.
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A sobering thought. Tool’s last song ever played live could be Stinkfist on March 11, 2020.
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A sobering thought. Tool’s last song ever played live could be Stinkfist on March 11, 2020.
Would have been soberer if it had been Sober.
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Would have been soberer if it had been Sober.
The Soberest of shows
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I just want to start this over
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So, this may not be the right sub, or whatever... but we could use some stimulating conversation, no?

Where is the line for “bootlegged” items? T-shirts with ripped off images are against the law... and selling unlicensed music, I get that...but here’s where I’m at: starting to blow glass and inspired to sculpt Adam’s figures from some of the Tool posters. Maybe even incorporate a red heptagram into a functional piece... who knows? I’m kind of thinking out loud... but at what point can I get in trouble for overstepping copywriter or whatever?
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The point where you start making money off it I'd expect
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I agree with HB. When you start making money I’d expect you could run afoul
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I’m just depressed that I “might” have missed the last TOOL show.
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I’m just depressed that I “might” have missed the last TOOL show.
It’ll pass and TOOL will tour again. I have faith
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I am working on a few Tool inspired paintings
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I am working on a few Tool inspired paintings
I saw a few of your commissions from the last few days, looking good!!
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I saw a few of your commissions from the last few days, looking good!!
Thanks brother!

Here is the sold commission: https://i.imgur.com/KWpquWm.jpg

This one is available: https://i.imgur.com/8Hqvswh.jpg

I designed the logo from scratch, then had it 3D printed

The fluid acrylic paintings are coated in epoxy resin.
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So, this may not be the right sub, or whatever... but we could use some stimulating conversation, no?

Where is the line for “bootlegged” items? T-shirts with ripped off images are against the law... and selling unlicensed music, I get that...but here’s where I’m at: starting to blow glass and inspired to sculpt Adam’s figures from some of the Tool posters. Maybe even incorporate a red heptagram into a functional piece... who knows? I’m kind of thinking out loud... but at what point can I get in trouble for overstepping copywriter or whatever?
You are fine.

Even if you sold something "inspired by," you won't run afoul of USA copyright laws.

Unless you brand it directly with TOOL you are in the clear.

Amazon and Ebay are chock full of literal bootleg rip offs. If they don't have time and energy to pull those down, fan art is safe.
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Thanks brother!

Here is the sold commission: https://i.imgur.com/KWpquWm.jpg

This one is available: https://i.imgur.com/8Hqvswh.jpg

I designed the logo from scratch, then had it 3D printed

The fluid acrylic paintings are coated in epoxy resin.
Now those might be an issue if the TA logo is copyrighted

But AWESOME either way.
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So, this may not be the right sub, or whatever... but we could use some stimulating conversation, no?

Where is the line for “bootlegged” items? T-shirts with ripped off images are against the law... and selling unlicensed music, I get that...but here’s where I’m at: starting to blow glass and inspired to sculpt Adam’s figures from some of the Tool posters. Maybe even incorporate a red heptagram into a functional piece... who knows? I’m kind of thinking out loud... but at what point can I get in trouble for overstepping copywriter or whatever?
If you end up doing this, put some pics up!
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I definitely won’t be using any logos or words even. I have some techniques I’m going to try to get the star into some pieces. I’d love to try and sculpt the double headed cyclops figure Adam drew for the 2009 Phoenix tour poster... stuff like that. I’ll be sure to keep y’all updated on my Toolish projects.

Lotus- maybe a trade once things start coming out of the kiln?
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Man, I envy you folks with a creative outlet in these times, my acting troupe is on long term hiatus and my backup landscape photography could land me a $1000 ticket. 😔
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I definitely won’t be using any logos or words even. I have some techniques I’m going to try to get the star into some pieces. I’d love to try and sculpt the double headed cyclops figure Adam drew for the 2009 Phoenix tour poster... stuff like that. I’ll be sure to keep y’all updated on my Toolish projects.

Lotus- maybe a trade once things start coming out of the kiln?
For sure. I'm down for a trade!
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Man, I envy you folks with a creative outlet in these times, my acting troupe is on long term hiatus and my backup landscape photography could land me a $1000 ticket. 😔
Hang in there, brutha. Better times are coming... eventually. I am just grateful to still be gainfully employed and doing work I enjoy. Dunno how much longer it will last, but ok for now. And while I don't have the creative spark musically I once had, there is enough to keep me going. Today I have been listening to Maynard's audio book. It's pretty good!
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on one hand: i wish we could get some dates for rescheduling. on the other: if they rescheduled for fall it would probably be rescheduled again to next year. small gripe, hope you are all staying healthy!
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on one hand: i wish we could get some dates for rescheduling. on the other: if they rescheduled for fall it would probably be rescheduled again to next year. small gripe, hope you are all staying healthy!
I'll be a little surprised if they can reschedule for 2020 - I think many promoters who are doing this already are jumping the gun a little. Though the situation here in Oz is probably somewhat different to that in the US, so who knows.
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I'll be a little surprised if they can reschedule for 2020 - I think many promoters who are doing this already are jumping the gun a little. Though the situation here in Oz is probably somewhat different to that in the US, so who knows.
I don't think we'll see anything in the US until 2021 as concerts go. A lot of the big revenue states (CA) have already stated they aren't allowing concerts until there is a vaccine. I really think a lot of the people who have rescheduled tours for the Fall will end up rescheduling again.
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Really, I think I'm just restless from the constant holding pattern that is most everything right now
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Really, I think I'm just restless from the constant holding pattern that is most everything right now
Fer sure.

I wish canceled concerts were my biggest issue right now.
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new Puscifer would be cool! The last 2 albums were fantastic. COMP is a stone cold classic
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new Puscifer would be cool! The last 2 albums were fantastic. COMP is a stone cold classic
Yea that’s be sweet. I saw the teaser post a few days ago, the sound bite was great!
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I heard someone suggest Tool will follow suit with RATM’s tour postponement protocol as it was a mirror tour by same promoter and venues. Thoughts?
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I heard someone suggest Tool will follow suit with RATM’s tour postponement protocol as it was a mirror tour by same promoter and venues. Thoughts?
Not sure what you mean - haven't Tool already cancelled/postponed their tour dates? You mean they will reschedule their dates for 2021? I think that's more or less a given at this point in time - I don't see large gatherings being a thing for quite some time yet.
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Not sure what you mean - haven't Tool already cancelled/postponed their tour dates? You mean they will reschedule their dates for 2021? I think that's more or less a given at this point in time - I don't see large gatherings being a thing for quite some time yet.
Same. I saw the ticket diagram of that concert in Arkansas that they are going to try and have...seems like a waste of time for the band, vendors, fans, etc...

I did see that the Bundesliga is going to start playing again, but I didn't see if that was without fans.
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I want to know if it was Maynard skateboarding (or whatever the hell that thing is) around LA in a biohazard suit
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I want to know if it was Maynard skateboarding (or whatever the hell that thing is) around LA in a biohazard suit
I would bet that it isnt
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:21 AM   #7276
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I would bet that it isnt
You're probably right. His grandpa dance moves gives away that he probably isn't too hip enough to do that lol
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You're probably right. His grandpa dance moves gives away that he probably isn't too hip enough to do that lol

Meats Meier is the one in the suit in the video.

Also, does anyone know why ticketmaster still shows the OKC show as happening even though it's postponed? Very annoying as I would like to request the refund for it since I won't be living near there anymore.
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Meats Meier is the one in the suit in the video.

Also, does anyone know why ticketmaster still shows the OKC show as happening even though it's postponed? Very annoying as I would like to request the refund for it since I won't be living near there anymore.
Can you get a refund for the postponed shows? My show says postponed and I haven't found where to get it refunded
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Can you get a refund for the postponed shows? My show says postponed and I haven't found where to get it refunded
policy is if show is postponed no refunds'
if show is cancelled refunds will be made available
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Do a chargeback imo. I bet the bank does not care what a known scam puts in their standard form boilerplate about how they can just steal your money.
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