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Old 02-24-2007, 07:41 PM   #1
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Eye-less-icity

The mind's plasticity is formed by human eyelessicity, the degree in which one cannot perceive. High eyelessicity results in a blinded humanity, usually caused by imperious beliefs. We see not the world and the stars above, but only that what we wish. We see so much more--we long for love--we yearn for that divine kiss. So we see what we want and we form our own realm--reality becomes not so real. We hope and we strive to eternally thrive and we feel what there isn't there to feel. We live a delusion, an enigmatic confusion, where nothing is how it seems. We live for the Union, an ongoing illusion--we're living within our dreams.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:11 PM   #3
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The mind's plasticity is formed by human eyelessicity, the degree in which one cannot perceive. High eyelessicity results in a blinded humanity, usually caused by imperious beliefs. We see not the world and the stars above, but only that what we wish. We see so much more--we long for love--we yearn for that divine kiss. So we see what we want and we form our own realm--reality becomes not so real. We hope and we strive to eternally thrive and we feel what there isn't there to feel. We live a delusion, an enigmatic confusion, where nothing is how it seems. We live for the Union, an ongoing illusion--we're living within our dreams.
Why aren't there more people like you?

???

Who knows. The human race is dumbfounded, feeble, weak, and naive. Too many people watch the O.C. instead of thinking down for some quite time and thinking about life. Humans are blinded by materials and other physical aspects that in the end, mean absolutely nothing.

Your statement is well thought out and precise. Good stuff.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:26 PM   #4
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Thank you both, talibad and Esurient4Truth...
I didn't think anybody was going to take the time comment on my work :)
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:43 PM   #5
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Thank you both, talibad and Esurient4Truth...
I didn't think anybody was going to take the time comment on my work :)
it reminds me of some of my old posts under the username mindash. a toned down version of eyemaware but i mean that in a good way
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Their is bliss in unreality and not being a moral elitist. One never falls far from ground zero.
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i don't even know what to say because you've basically hit the nail on the head right there. beautifully stated.
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:24 AM   #8
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Their is bliss in unreality and not being a moral elitist. One never falls far from ground zero.
I'm sorry, but I disagree, biff0016... There is no bliss in unreality--it may feel like it, but there is none. I mean, if you commit a crime in front of, say, your local courthouse, can you merely tell all of the cops, lawyers and other such people whom witnessed you commit this crime that you simply didn't know whatever you did was illegal? I don't believe so, as it is their job in this 3rd dimension to uphold the law. Your error in rational, IMO, is consciously trying to perceive the world from a vantage point of polarity consciousness. Read my thread entitled "Consciousness" somewhere below this one if you want a more thorough explanation <i>of</i> polarity consciousness.

As to EnjoyBjork's comment, thank you for your support and kind words. I really hope people will really start to look at and think about the messages behind my writings. I know some of my stuff may get long, but I have a lot that I've composited from my own thoughts and other countless outside influences that I feel I need to express, but isn't it all the more to talk about?

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Old 02-27-2007, 12:43 PM   #9
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I'm sorry, but I disagree, biff0016... There is no bliss in unreality--it may feel like it, but there is none. I mean, if you commit a crime in front of, say, your local courthouse, can you merely tell all of the cops, lawyers and other such people whom witnessed you commit this crime that you simply didn't know whatever you did was illegal? I don't believe so, as it is their job in this 3rd dimension to uphold the law. Your error in rational, IMO, is consciously trying to perceive the world from a vantage point of polarity consciousness. Read my thread entitled "Consciousness" somewhere below this one if you want a more thorough explanation <i>of</i> polarity consciousness.
The horse you're riding will tire, it's inevitable. Their is zero relevance in this example of "unreality" and the dream like unreality mentioned in the original post. Although moral elitism always looks fashionable with that haircut, and i helplessly envy this jewel.
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Your error in rational, IMO, is consciously trying to perceive the world from a vantage point of polarity consciousness
It's comforting to know an authority of morals and rationale, however you'll have to excuse my skepticism and provide credentials.

Is this the waiting area over here?
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:41 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=biff0016;1769497Their is zero relevance in this example of "unreality"[/QUOTE]

You know something, you're right, I didn't fully express my thoughts in the example I used, I apologize, for I tend to have some sort of focusing disability and sometimes I get ahead of myself. So allow me to slow down some, and I'll elaborate on what I was trying to say...
...that is if you were to commit a crime whilst an authority figure whom upholds the law were observing you, you couldn't merely exist in an "unreality" by explaining that you didn't know your actions in committing the crime were against the law before committing it to begin with. Even if it were <i>your</i> reality that whatever your actions were were not a crime, say if you were a foreigner accustomed to different laws, <i>your</i> reality would in this case regardlessly be an "unreality" in that you would be existing under the jurisdiction of a reality outside of your own. Depending upon the severity of the crime committed, I believe it wouldn't be all too blissful of a ride being escorted to a nice room of your own with a pretty pair of silver bracelets on. I guess another way of saying what I'm trying to make a point of is this--say there was one person in a group that was asleep when a given even took place. Now that one person is unconscious of whatever that given event was, but everybody else knew what had occurred. So, under the effect of his/her ignorance, his/her unconsciousness of the happening of the given event, it is his/her reality that whatever that event was never happened. But does just because it's in his/her reality that it never happened mean that it never happened for the rest of the group that witnessed the occurrence of it happening? No, because it was in <i>their</i> reality that it did happen. Being unconscious of the occurrence of a given event is merely ignorance, which <i>will</i> have some impact on an individual, if as nothing else as a lack of knowledge towards the situation of whatever the event was leading up towards some misunderstanding or confusion later down the road. Then there's people who will consciously be "unconscious" of the occurrence of a given event happening, which are people who live in denial, people who just pretend that things don't happen so they don't have to be concerned about them. Living either of these types of existence is far from blissful, that is IMO. Maybe lying to yourself and layering your soul with toxic debris is your kinda fun? I don't know... Everything I've recently been learning about life, though, tells me that lying isn't such a great thing to do, and especially to one's self, so I try to be a good person and make a difference in this world. I'm not claiming to be some "moral elitist", I just see how powerful an impact emanating positive energy has on people, so I try to maintain that, I try to make waves of positivity opposed to trying to rain on peoples' parades.
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Honestly, I'm asleep. I'm unconscious--yes--but I'm conscious of being unconscious, so I'm more conscious because of it, at least conscious enough to be writing this. I'm just beginning to learn who I am as of recently. I mean, it's kinda one of those things that you knew all along, it's just you didn't recognize it until you heard a certain note of a song. And then it all comes rushing to you like the *snap* of a bong. And then you're high... or rather I am on life and on love in my life and so I make up my mind as we run out of time--damn, we're close. Yes I make up my mind and come to decide I emanate differently, and because I know, I gotta show... I see things for a reason.
this bit sheds even more life.... errrr... light.

btw, use square brackets, not angled.

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Old 02-28-2007, 08:05 AM   #12
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ObiJohnKenobi, thank you, I think? LoL... to tell you the truth, I'm a bit confused as to where you quoted that from, as I didn't remember posting the quote you quoted me on on here... That was drawn from my Myspace... and my Myspace info isn't even on here. Do I know you maybe? Or did you just try to find me on Myspace out of curiosity? And using square brackets opposed to angled, that's how you italicize on here?
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And using square brackets opposed to angled, that's how you italicize on here?
yup.

I generally google any pretty decent posts to determine how "original" they are... thus, I stumbled across the MySpace page.

You've got some very inspired ideas there. I do think, however, you may need to work on the retorts about "unreality". They're based in the very mundane. They're valid, but they miss some important points, I think.

From what I read, you've been scorned or left behind or momentarlily lost. We all fall down these little rabbit holes and eventually find our way back up. Over and over again.
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OJK accidentally (or intentionally) provided the exact reason for my inability to see you on anything less substantial than a flaming soap box. Your choice of subjective personal pronouns is the high horse on which you're saddled. In the original post you chose "we" there by declaring authority over every eye that decided to take the time to read your thoughts. In the quote OJK posted you chose "I" which gave the reader a choice to apply it to their experience or disregard it. You may have unveiled some sort of map to your life and if expressed properly might even garner you an audible applause (listen closely). But it's rather presumptuous to believe that same map will apply to everyone.
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I do think, however, you may need to work on the retorts about "unreality". They're based in the very mundane. They're valid, but they miss some important points, I think.
LoL... I've re-read this thread and you're right, ObiJohnKenobi, my examples are rather... lacking in life. I was ineffectively attempting to elaborate upon ideas that I derived from my other post entitled "Consciousness" (check it out for further clarification) . So here, let me see--how about this... forget direct examples, let me just try to explain myself. If you really break it down, I suppose there may be some bliss found in "unreality", so biff0016's original post to this thread does hold some ground in this debate, but IMO, only in regards to bliss being a result of "unreality". One may attain bliss by means of "unreality", but, in all reality (IMO), only as much as one may find in a wet dream. In the moment, it may be satisfying, but when one wakes up stuck to the sheets, the pain of reality in peeling one's flesh from his/her bedding sinks in... But in regards to denouncing attempted "moral elitists", I absolutely disagree with this. In leading life under "unreality", I feel that this is nothing other than lying to one's self, a sort of denial, if you will. And from everything I can gather, from all of my experiences and conversations in this lifetime, drowning one's self in Egyptian rivers only carries him/her further and further downstream, further and further from "ground zero". To get back to where one began it becomes an ever-exhausting battle to swim against the current, and as one begins to tire, they're sucked down and pulled away by the undertow.

As to biff0016's post prior to what I'm now writing, you (biff0016) are correct about the general effect of my choice in using subjective personal pronouns. In my original post, my piece "Eye-less-icity", I did intentionally use the pronoun "we" for effect. I did this firstly as to generalize so to express that this is a general error in human thought process, and using the pronoun "we" included myself into that category, showing not only that this was something I had been coming to terms of within understanding my own nature, but in examining the nature of others, as well. So saying "we" is referring to people in general, but not necessarily including everybody, as "we" only directly refers to me. And secondly, I chose to use the pronoun "we" similarly to what you expressed, but not exactly. Using "we" wasn't intended to "declare authority" over anybody, but merely to leave the reader feeling as though included in what was being said. I was simply trying to get the reader to examine my words in juxtaposition to themselves, as to get them to think outside of what they may have typically thought in regards to their own nature, but I never directly refer to the reader, so that connection was made all on your own.

In regards to the quote ObiJohnKenobi posted in which you (biff0016) refer to me using "I", there is little direct relevance to the original post. What ObiJohnKenobi quoted me on was derived from the "About me" on my Myspace, something entirely different in which I had written in an entirely different mindset, with entirely different objectives in mind in writing it. This quote may be relevant in that it explains in greater detail who and what I express myself to be, it shows everybody more "about me", but it doesn't directly relate otherwise to this post.

So in short, this was merely a general observation I had made towards the human race. I mean not to be so "presumptuous", forgive me if I may have seemed so. Regardless, I am enjoying this discussion very much so and I thank everybody for their part in it. Thank you all for taking the time to examine my thoughts, and I hope all of us can take something from this experience. As for now, my head aches like nothing else, so goodnight, all, for now...
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The mind's plasticity is formed by human eyelessicity, the degree in which one cannot perceive. High eyelessicity results in a blinded humanity, usually caused by imperious beliefs. We see not the world and the stars above, but only that what we wish. We see so much more--we long for love--we yearn for that divine kiss. So we see what we want and we form our own realm--reality becomes not so real. We hope and we strive to eternally thrive and we feel what there isn't there to feel. We live a delusion, an enigmatic confusion, where nothing is how it seems. We live for the Union, an ongoing illusion--we're living within our dreams.
Wow, greatly statated.
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