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05-31-2006, 09:16 AM
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Pardon me if I am rehashing something already mentioned.

23 figures prominently in the numerological study of synchronicities or rather "coincidental" occurences. Viginti tres, wings for mary, and 10,000 days seem to play as one cohesive song. It seems to me that the title for viginti tres is as cohesive in meaning with wings and 10,000 days as the song is audibly. 23 symbolizes that everything is in some way connected and that coincidental occurences aren't in fact unconnected. Maynards mother Judith was left physically impaired by an "accident", this accident seems to have provided the catalyst for maynards despising of a god who would do this to his mother and of the "christians" who were about as a christ like as a piece of toast. Despite the accident Judith exhibited faith in and love towards God and despite her sons views on God, which were the antithesis of hers, and which undoubtedly led to much idle gossip among the so called flock, she remained in and exhibited much love for her son. Ultimately her faith in God and love for maynard showed him what a true christian was. So was the "accident" a "accident"? or was it a "God concieved" plan, one that she ultimately believed in?


Anyway those are some of my thoughts on those 3 songs, and this really is a tremendous album.
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23, synchronicity, Maynard, religion, and Judith.

Pardon me if I am rehashing something already mentioned.

23 figures prominently in the numerological study of synchronicities or rather "coincidental" occurences. Viginti tres, wings for mary, and 10,000 days seem to play as one cohesive song. It seems to me that the title for viginti tres is as cohesive in meaning with wings and 10,000 days as the song is audibly. 23 symbolizes that everything is in some way connected and that coincidental occurences aren't in fact unconnected. Maynards mother Judith was left physically impaired by an "accident", this accident seems to have provided the catalyst for maynards despising of a god who would do this to his mother and of the "christians" who were about as a christ like as a piece of toast. Despite the accident Judith exhibited faith in and love towards God and despite her sons views on God, which were the antithesis of hers, and which undoubtedly led to much idle gossip among the so called flock, she remained in and exhibited much love for her son. Ultimately her faith in God and love for maynard showed him what a true christian was. So was the "accident" a "accident"? or was it a "God concieved" plan, one that she ultimately believed in?


Anyway those are some of my thoughts on those 3 songs, and this really is a tremendous album.
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you never explained what the "23" ment, you just said it symbolized something...
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Re: 23, synchronicity, Maynard, religion, and Judith.

you never explained what the "23" ment, you just said it symbolized something...
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23 is the synchroncity number


23 is used because it supposedly repeats itself in everyday occurences and whereas we see it as just a coincidence it is actually evidence of a greater pattern of things.
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Re: 23, synchronicity, Maynard, religion, and Judith.

23 is the synchroncity number


23 is used because it supposedly repeats itself in everyday occurences and whereas we see it as just a coincidence it is actually evidence of a greater pattern of things.
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Maynard has spoken about experiencing synchronicity after using drugs. he explains a clock example. I've expeienced this clock example, although i haven't done psychadelic drugs. i looked at my clock , it was 11:11. I dont look all day,i look again 17:17. That was a few days ago. The next day I had 11:11 again, didnt look all day. Looked and it was 18:18. Today I didnt get eleven. But I got 19:19 just before i wrote this.

Weird.
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Re: 23, synchronicity, Maynard, religion, and Judith.

Maynard has spoken about experiencing synchronicity after using drugs. he explains a clock example. I've expeienced this clock example, although i haven't done psychadelic drugs. i looked at my clock , it was 11:11. I dont look all day,i look again 17:17. That was a few days ago. The next day I had 11:11 again, didnt look all day. Looked and it was 18:18. Today I didnt get eleven. But I got 19:19 just before i wrote this.

Weird.
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ha i just read your post looked at the clock and it was 2:32


weird.
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ha i just read your post looked at the clock and it was 2:32


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i just read and it was 11:55...
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i just read and it was 11:55...
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12:21

as in... 12/21/2012 (Mayan Apocalypse)
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12:21

as in... 12/21/2012 (Mayan Apocalypse)
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Maynard has spoken about experiencing synchronicity after using drugs. he explains a clock example. I've expeienced this clock example, although i haven't done psychadelic drugs. i looked at my clock , it was 11:11. I dont look all day,i look again 17:17. That was a few days ago. The next day I had 11:11 again, didnt look all day. Looked and it was 18:18. Today I didnt get eleven. But I got 19:19 just before i wrote this.

Weird.
what kinda clock says 18:18..... Is it a fucking military clock????

its 04 hundred... time for bed!!!!
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Maynard has spoken about experiencing synchronicity after using drugs. he explains a clock example. I've expeienced this clock example, although i haven't done psychadelic drugs. i looked at my clock , it was 11:11. I dont look all day,i look again 17:17. That was a few days ago. The next day I had 11:11 again, didnt look all day. Looked and it was 18:18. Today I didnt get eleven. But I got 19:19 just before i wrote this.

Weird.
what kinda clock says 18:18..... Is it a fucking military clock????

its 04 hundred... time for bed!!!!
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HAHA
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When I just looked it was 906.
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When I just looked it was 906.
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11:11 right now, what bitch
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I just read this and thought. Hmm. What's the time?
Sure enough 11:11.

It's like a creepy magician trick. Gave me a bit of a chill. Fun stuff.
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I just read this and thought. Hmm. What's the time?
Sure enough 11:11.

It's like a creepy magician trick. Gave me a bit of a chill. Fun stuff.
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:( its 12:44 here.. nothing neat..
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4 o'clock :)
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4 o'clock :)
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23:06.

Nothing special.

Wait...
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23:06.

Nothing special.

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23:23 WHOA!
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carny_handles...your avatar makes me giggle :)
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carny_handles...your avatar makes me giggle :)
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I once read a book called The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson it was all about the number 23 and Conspiracy theories. Real creepy stuff.
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I once read a book called The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson it was all about the number 23 and Conspiracy theories. Real creepy stuff.
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Whoa, when i was reading these post I looked at the clock and it showed 10:10, no joke, this is gettin freaky, haha.
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Whoa, when i was reading these post I looked at the clock and it showed 10:10, no joke, this is gettin freaky, haha.
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Michael Jordan wore 23 because he is the god of basketball.

Wings for Mary is a great song.

It's 9:09. Whoa.
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Michael Jordan wore 23 because he is the god of basketball.

Wings for Mary is a great song.

It's 9:09. Whoa.
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8:25am here right now....what a coincidence *shrug*
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10:39. Take the 3, subtract it from 10 and you've got 7. Now add that back onto the 10, so you've got 17. Now that that three you subtracted, add it back on and you've got 20.

This is the important part. Round up the 9 to a 0.

Look, 20:30.

Now eliminate the 0's. That's right. 23.
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10:39. Take the 3, subtract it from 10 and you've got 7. Now add that back onto the 10, so you've got 17. Now that that three you subtracted, add it back on and you've got 20.

This is the important part. Round up the 9 to a 0.

Look, 20:30.

Now eliminate the 0's. That's right. 23.
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10:39. Take the 3, subtract it from 10 and you've got 7. Now add that back onto the 10, so you've got 17. Now that that three you subtracted, add it back on and you've got 20.

This is the important part. Round up the 9 to a 0.

Look, 20:30.

Now eliminate the 0's. That's right. 23.
You've got far too much time on your hands
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10:39. Take the 3, subtract it from 10 and you've got 7. Now add that back onto the 10, so you've got 17. Now that that three you subtracted, add it back on and you've got 20.

This is the important part. Round up the 9 to a 0.

Look, 20:30.

Now eliminate the 0's. That's right. 23.
You've got far too much time on your hands
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You've got far too much time on your hands
That character on the Vicarious music video is named X. X = 23rd letter in the alphabet. I am eating alphabets cereal. I've just taken my 23rd bite. In this specific mouthful there was 11 characters.

It was 9:11 when I was consuming this delicious little treat. 11 minutes, 11 letters, 23rd mouthful. As you can guess, I was watching Vicarious for the 23rd time. Is this all a coincidence?

Let me tell you that it's not. But there's one problem... this 9 that ruins my whole allegations of a divine intervention by Judith, Maynard and Tools music. M A Y N A R D = 7 letters. J U D I T H = 6 but I don't need all of those letters do I? I only need the 9th one. M A Y N A R D J U <- U.

U. Do you get it? U--You is obviously Inner_Eulogy. You tell me I have too much time on my hands. I check my watch, I do have too much time on my hands. My watch is 9 minutes ahead of the computers time.

DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
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You've got far too much time on your hands
That character on the Vicarious music video is named X. X = 23rd letter in the alphabet. I am eating alphabets cereal. I've just taken my 23rd bite. In this specific mouthful there was 11 characters.

It was 9:11 when I was consuming this delicious little treat. 11 minutes, 11 letters, 23rd mouthful. As you can guess, I was watching Vicarious for the 23rd time. Is this all a coincidence?

Let me tell you that it's not. But there's one problem... this 9 that ruins my whole allegations of a divine intervention by Judith, Maynard and Tools music. M A Y N A R D = 7 letters. J U D I T H = 6 but I don't need all of those letters do I? I only need the 9th one. M A Y N A R D J U <- U.

U. Do you get it? U--You is obviously Inner_Eulogy. You tell me I have too much time on my hands. I check my watch, I do have too much time on my hands. My watch is 9 minutes ahead of the computers time.

DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
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That character on the Vicarious music video is named X. X = 23rd letter in the alphabet. I am eating alphabets cereal. I've just taken my 23rd bite. In this specific mouthful there was 11 characters.

It was 9:11 when I was consuming this delicious little treat. 11 minutes, 11 letters, 23rd mouthful. As you can guess, I was watching Vicarious for the 23rd time. Is this all a coincidence?

Let me tell you that it's not. But there's one problem... this 9 that ruins my whole allegations of a divine intervention by Judith, Maynard and Tools music. M A Y N A R D = 7 letters. J U D I T H = 6 but I don't need all of those letters do I? I only need the 9th one. M A Y N A R D J U <- U.

U. Do you get it? U--You is obviously Inner_Eulogy. You tell me I have too much time on my hands. I check my watch, I do have too much time on my hands. My watch is 9 minutes ahead of the computers time.

DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
I think I'm gonna go clip my toenails now
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That character on the Vicarious music video is named X. X = 23rd letter in the alphabet. I am eating alphabets cereal. I've just taken my 23rd bite. In this specific mouthful there was 11 characters.

It was 9:11 when I was consuming this delicious little treat. 11 minutes, 11 letters, 23rd mouthful. As you can guess, I was watching Vicarious for the 23rd time. Is this all a coincidence?

Let me tell you that it's not. But there's one problem... this 9 that ruins my whole allegations of a divine intervention by Judith, Maynard and Tools music. M A Y N A R D = 7 letters. J U D I T H = 6 but I don't need all of those letters do I? I only need the 9th one. M A Y N A R D J U <- U.

U. Do you get it? U--You is obviously Inner_Eulogy. You tell me I have too much time on my hands. I check my watch, I do have too much time on my hands. My watch is 9 minutes ahead of the computers time.

DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
I think I'm gonna go clip my toenails now
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I think I'm gonna go clip my toenails now
Do your fingernails too.
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Do your fingernails too.
I would if I had any....I've got this terrible habit of biting the shit outta them
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I would if I had any....I've got this terrible habit of biting the shit outta them
you got shit in your nails?
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23=Micheal Jordan's jersey number and Dante bichette, clearly there is some thing dealing with a Chicago and Boston rivalry that we don't yet understand.....yet there beef seems to remain in LA (SEE:Anema) mayhap D.C. has beef wit the Rockies? OR! there safe practice place is in Mane! or Colorado!

them dudes are sure smaht
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23=Micheal Jordan's jersey number and Dante bichette, clearly there is some thing dealing with a Chicago and Boston rivalry that we don't yet understand.....yet there beef seems to remain in LA (SEE:Anema) mayhap D.C. has beef wit the Rockies? OR! there safe practice place is in Mane! or Colorado!

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My mind is blown.
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That character on the Vicarious music video is named X. X = 23rd letter in the alphabet. I am eating alphabets cereal. I've just taken my 23rd bite. In this specific mouthful there was 11 characters.

It was 9:11 when I was consuming this delicious little treat. 11 minutes, 11 letters, 23rd mouthful. As you can guess, I was watching Vicarious for the 23rd time. Is this all a coincidence?

Let me tell you that it's not. But there's one problem... this 9 that ruins my whole allegations of a divine intervention by Judith, Maynard and Tools music. M A Y N A R D = 7 letters. J U D I T H = 6 but I don't need all of those letters do I? I only need the 9th one. M A Y N A R D J U <- U.

U. Do you get it? U--You is obviously Inner_Eulogy. You tell me I have too much time on my hands. I check my watch, I do have too much time on my hands. My watch is 9 minutes ahead of the computers time.

DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
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That character on the Vicarious music video is named X. X = 23rd letter in the alphabet. I am eating alphabets cereal. I've just taken my 23rd bite. In this specific mouthful there was 11 characters.

It was 9:11 when I was consuming this delicious little treat. 11 minutes, 11 letters, 23rd mouthful. As you can guess, I was watching Vicarious for the 23rd time. Is this all a coincidence?

Let me tell you that it's not. But there's one problem... this 9 that ruins my whole allegations of a divine intervention by Judith, Maynard and Tools music. M A Y N A R D = 7 letters. J U D I T H = 6 but I don't need all of those letters do I? I only need the 9th one. M A Y N A R D J U <- U.

U. Do you get it? U--You is obviously Inner_Eulogy. You tell me I have too much time on my hands. I check my watch, I do have too much time on my hands. My watch is 9 minutes ahead of the computers time.

DO YOU NOT SEE IT?
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lolz
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That was the works of a great imagination
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Brilliant sarcasm
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indeed it was.
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X is not the 23rd letter of the alphabet.. it is the 24th
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Re: 23, synchronicity, Maynard, religion, and Judith.

X is not the 23rd letter of the alphabet.. it is the 24th
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i guess i do not understand numbers well enough?

i will check into it
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i guess i do not understand numbers well enough?

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Michael Jordan was a good basketball player. Okay, great.
X is 24. Y is 25.
I like YYZ. It's 11:11 here. Does that mean make a wish, or crack a beer.
This post was sponsored by the Greek letter Omega.
Now I've got it going, eh? 76', the year I bought Led Zeppelin 4.
Oh shit. I'm losing track of the numbers.
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Re: 23, synchronicity, Maynard, religion, and Judith.

Michael Jordan was a good basketball player. Okay, great.
X is 24. Y is 25.
I like YYZ. It's 11:11 here. Does that mean make a wish, or crack a beer.
This post was sponsored by the Greek letter Omega.
Now I've got it going, eh? 76', the year I bought Led Zeppelin 4.
Oh shit. I'm losing track of the numbers.
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