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Also i'm now listening to Octahedron... blamin you dads...

edit: in a good way tho
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Also i'm now listening to Octahedron... blamin you dads...

edit: in a good way tho
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After giving Copernicus a listen, I kind of started to feel like its all a matter of perspective. Certainly Aphex Twin, Tool and Mars Volta sound nothing alike. While the use of synth drums sounds 'similar', if given context, it fits the situation.
i was just pointing out that a similar electronic drum motif is in intension and copernicus. i haven't really listened to any idm so the "electronic hi hat" was a novel sound for me, and i thought it was cute coincidence that i heard it in new tool and new tmv. of course i wouldn't say that tool, or tmv, or aphex twin sound anything alike, stylistically, just because they use the same samples

and i like octahedron. i think it's their most consistent album since deloused, and a welcome follow-up to bedlam, half of which i never listen to.
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After giving Copernicus a listen, I kind of started to feel like its all a matter of perspective. Certainly Aphex Twin, Tool and Mars Volta sound nothing alike. While the use of synth drums sounds 'similar', if given context, it fits the situation.
i was just pointing out that a similar electronic drum motif is in intension and copernicus. i haven't really listened to any idm so the "electronic hi hat" was a novel sound for me, and i thought it was cute coincidence that i heard it in new tool and new tmv. of course i wouldn't say that tool, or tmv, or aphex twin sound anything alike, stylistically, just because they use the same samples

and i like octahedron. i think it's their most consistent album since deloused, and a welcome follow-up to bedlam, half of which i never listen to.
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Also i'm now listening to Octahedron... blamin you dads...

edit: in a good way tho
ok ill listen to it too

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Also i'm now listening to Octahedron... blamin you dads...

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i was just pointing out that a similar electronic drum motif is in intension and copernicus. i haven't really listened to any idm so the "electronic hi hat" was a novel sound for me, and i thought it was cute coincidence that i heard it in new tool and new tmv. of course i wouldn't say that tool, or tmv, or aphex twin sound anything alike, stylistically, just because they use the same samples
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and i like octahedron. i think it's their most consistent album since deloused, and a welcome follow-up to bedlam, half of which i never listen to.
Totally. Although I like most of bedlam.
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i was just pointing out that a similar electronic drum motif is in intension and copernicus. i haven't really listened to any idm so the "electronic hi hat" was a novel sound for me, and i thought it was cute coincidence that i heard it in new tool and new tmv. of course i wouldn't say that tool, or tmv, or aphex twin sound anything alike, stylistically, just because they use the same samples
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and i like octahedron. i think it's their most consistent album since deloused, and a welcome follow-up to bedlam, half of which i never listen to.
Totally. Although I like most of bedlam.
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how do you figure he's "on a roll" and "building momentum"?
The past(only) 2 times I've seen them live, (10,000 Day tour and 2009 Summer Tour) Justin notably more than the rest of the band, looked like he was having fun on stage and giving it his all.

I feel like he's coming out of his shell more and more as time progresses... building momentum, if you will. Personal opinion, of course

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how do you figure he's "on a roll" and "building momentum"?
The past(only) 2 times I've seen them live, (10,000 Day tour and 2009 Summer Tour) Justin notably more than the rest of the band, looked like he was having fun on stage and giving it his all.

I feel like he's coming out of his shell more and more as time progresses... building momentum, if you will. Personal opinion, of course

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Justin should be replaced with a token black guy or hot chick
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After giving Copernicus a listen, I kind of started to feel like its all a matter of perspective. Certainly Aphex Twin, Tool and Mars Volta sound nothing alike. While the use of synth drums sounds 'similar', if given context, it fits the situation.

I guess that'd be like saying, this guitarist sounds like that guitarist because they both use LPs with marshall amp/cabs and play with a lot of unison bends. They might both have a similar playing style, yet their composition could be wholly different.
Just to clarify my previous point...what I meant to say was not that Tool sounds like Aphex Twin during the synth on Intension, simply that the synth made me think of them...and in my preference I would hope Tool doesn't steer in that direction with their music. Perhaps something more ambient, jungle like maybe.
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After giving Copernicus a listen, I kind of started to feel like its all a matter of perspective. Certainly Aphex Twin, Tool and Mars Volta sound nothing alike. While the use of synth drums sounds 'similar', if given context, it fits the situation.

I guess that'd be like saying, this guitarist sounds like that guitarist because they both use LPs with marshall amp/cabs and play with a lot of unison bends. They might both have a similar playing style, yet their composition could be wholly different.
Just to clarify my previous point...what I meant to say was not that Tool sounds like Aphex Twin during the synth on Intension, simply that the synth made me think of them...and in my preference I would hope Tool doesn't steer in that direction with their music. Perhaps something more ambient, jungle like maybe.
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I think we're on the same page.
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I think we're on the same page.
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i vote for 180, last album was HIGHly disappointing.
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I hope they pull a Radiohead and just give 1 weeks notice and release it
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I hope they pull a Radiohead and just give 1 weeks notice and release it
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They're a pretty big band- that's all they need and it would still sell well.
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Justin should be replaced with a token black guy or hot chick
definitely needs to be a hot chick who likes to dress in revealing outfits.

and I gotta be honest, i think justin has turned tool into more of a prog rock sound than they were before. while thats OK, its not great. As I've said before Evil fucking shit needs to come back. They used to have dark music and since justin has been in the band its taken a rather stale turn. boot justin and get a crazy hot chick that drives the rest of the band insane so we can get at least one more good album before they retire.
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Justin should be replaced with a token black guy or hot chick
definitely needs to be a hot chick who likes to dress in revealing outfits.

and I gotta be honest, i think justin has turned tool into more of a prog rock sound than they were before. while thats OK, its not great. As I've said before Evil fucking shit needs to come back. They used to have dark music and since justin has been in the band its taken a rather stale turn. boot justin and get a crazy hot chick that drives the rest of the band insane so we can get at least one more good album before they retire.
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Agreed, Jakesstuff - Recently I realized, how influential Justin is on the others he plays with. He joined the band "Intronaut" on the title track from their album "Valley of Smoke", and see what happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYGL5qOt70
It's kinda lengthy piece, but you can jump straight to 3:20 and.. seems familiar :)
Great dual bass performance isn't it?
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Agreed, Jakesstuff - Recently I realized, how influential Justin is on the others he plays with. He joined the band "Intronaut" on the title track from their album "Valley of Smoke", and see what happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYGL5qOt70
It's kinda lengthy piece, but you can jump straight to 3:20 and.. seems familiar :)
Great dual bass performance isn't it?
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I hope this time they will put the actual album out too, not just the decoy one like last time.
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I hope this time they will put the actual album out too, not just the decoy one like last time.
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definitely needs to be a hot chick who likes to dress in revealing outfits.

and I gotta be honest, i think justin has turned tool into more of a prog rock sound than they were before. while thats OK, its not great. As I've said before Evil fucking shit needs to come back. They used to have dark music and since justin has been in the band its taken a rather stale turn. boot justin and get a crazy hot chick that drives the rest of the band insane so we can get at least one more good album before they retire.
I think that's completely insane, and yet... a compelling argument.
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definitely needs to be a hot chick who likes to dress in revealing outfits.

and I gotta be honest, i think justin has turned tool into more of a prog rock sound than they were before. while thats OK, its not great. As I've said before Evil fucking shit needs to come back. They used to have dark music and since justin has been in the band its taken a rather stale turn. boot justin and get a crazy hot chick that drives the rest of the band insane so we can get at least one more good album before they retire.
I think that's completely insane, and yet... a compelling argument.
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I hope they pull a Radiohead and just give 1 weeks notice and release it
that's a good idea, as long as the new album isnt 8 tracks and an utter fucking bore like the new Radiohead album.
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that's a good idea, as long as the new album isnt 8 tracks and an utter fucking bore like the new Radiohead album.
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that's a good idea, as long as the new album isnt 8 tracks and an utter fucking bore like the new Radiohead album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w02QpqbCksU
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that's a good idea, as long as the new album isnt 8 tracks and an utter fucking bore like the new Radiohead album.
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Was Lateralus on vinyl? If so, does it sound markedly better than the CD?
In my opinion, yes. I could really hear the guitar layering better. The pitch shifter that Adam uses jumped out a bit more.

The drums sound (the cymbals speciffically) sound more alive.

I dunno. I am probably being too picky. I heard details that I have never heard before though and that is my favorite album of all time...

So yeah. I thought it sounded better.

I also have Undertow on vinyl and it sounds way better in my opinion as well.
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Was Lateralus on vinyl? If so, does it sound markedly better than the CD?
In my opinion, yes. I could really hear the guitar layering better. The pitch shifter that Adam uses jumped out a bit more.

The drums sound (the cymbals speciffically) sound more alive.

I dunno. I am probably being too picky. I heard details that I have never heard before though and that is my favorite album of all time...

So yeah. I thought it sounded better.

I also have Undertow on vinyl and it sounds way better in my opinion as well.
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My step-dad's got a very nice vinyl setup. I wonder how much it would cost to get Lateralus nowadays. I'm dying to find Panopticon but I think it's out of print.
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My step-dad's got a very nice vinyl setup. I wonder how much it would cost to get Lateralus nowadays. I'm dying to find Panopticon but I think it's out of print.
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I saw one at Best Buy I think a while ago. If I recall correctly, it's still about $40.
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I saw one at Best Buy I think a while ago. If I recall correctly, it's still about $40.
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I saw one at Best Buy I think a while ago. If I recall correctly, it's still about $40.
Yeah thats right, There is a music store I go to and they have it for $39.99
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Which is utterly ridiculous, especially for a 10-year-old album (yeah I know the vinyl edition is newer).

For comparison: I got Liars' new album the day it came out. Not only was it less than half as much, but it has equally-cool packaging AND two CDs to go along with the two LPs. $40 for two LPs is a complete ripoff.
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Which is utterly ridiculous, especially for a 10-year-old album (yeah I know the vinyl edition is newer).

For comparison: I got Liars' new album the day it came out. Not only was it less than half as much, but it has equally-cool packaging AND two CDs to go along with the two LPs. $40 for two LPs is a complete ripoff.
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Which is utterly ridiculous, especially for a 10-year-old album (yeah I know the vinyl edition is newer).

For comparison: I got Liars' new album the day it came out. Not only was it less than half as much, but it has equally-cool packaging AND two CDs to go along with the two LPs. $40 for two LPs is a complete ripoff.
Liars isn't exactly a Grade A name in the music industry though.
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Which is utterly ridiculous, especially for a 10-year-old album (yeah I know the vinyl edition is newer).

For comparison: I got Liars' new album the day it came out. Not only was it less than half as much, but it has equally-cool packaging AND two CDs to go along with the two LPs. $40 for two LPs is a complete ripoff.
Liars isn't exactly a Grade A name in the music industry though.
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I joke about it, but I still get this feeling Tool will throw down a new album without much hype at all. That's probably not going to happen, but I guess it's wishful thinking that one day I'll find a brand spankin' new Tool album floating down the street heading for the gutter, and I'll save it from disappearing forever and Tool will respond with some sort of terrible Britney Spears euphemism.
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I joke about it, but I still get this feeling Tool will throw down a new album without much hype at all. That's probably not going to happen, but I guess it's wishful thinking that one day I'll find a brand spankin' new Tool album floating down the street heading for the gutter, and I'll save it from disappearing forever and Tool will respond with some sort of terrible Britney Spears euphemism.
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I dont think bands need to promote albums months before release nowadays. I really don't know if promotion is determined by the band or record label, but I would think in today's information age, the album would still sell well with 1 or 2 weeks notice. I think that would be pretty epic on their part.
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I dont think bands need to promote albums months before release nowadays. I really don't know if promotion is determined by the band or record label, but I would think in today's information age, the album would still sell well with 1 or 2 weeks notice. I think that would be pretty epic on their part.
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fucking apc cockblocking on my tool. ive always felt that maynard can do whatever he wants whenever he wants as long as the love is spread around, but damn dude that changed this morning with the announcement of apc touring north america for the whole summer. ive got a blue ball the size of saturn for anything new from this band and now it looks like i have to amputate
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fucking apc cockblocking on my tool. ive always felt that maynard can do whatever he wants whenever he wants as long as the love is spread around, but damn dude that changed this morning with the announcement of apc touring north america for the whole summer. ive got a blue ball the size of saturn for anything new from this band and now it looks like i have to amputate
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fucking apc cockblocking on my tool. ive always felt that maynard can do whatever he wants whenever he wants as long as the love is spread around, but damn dude that changed this morning with the announcement of apc touring north america for the whole summer. ive got a blue ball the size of saturn for anything new from this band and now it looks like i have to amputate
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fucking apc cockblocking on my tool. ive always felt that maynard can do whatever he wants whenever he wants as long as the love is spread around, but damn dude that changed this morning with the announcement of apc touring north america for the whole summer. ive got a blue ball the size of saturn for anything new from this band and now it looks like i have to amputate
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I don't think Maynard and APC are stalling Tool's new album. It's pretty much understood that the other 3 band members write the music and then Maynard strolls in towards the end and writes the lyrics, right? I'm pretty sure the band is still very much so in the process of writing the music. Also, I know I heard/read an interview with Maynard once where he talked about being on tour with APC and how he was sent the music of what the Tool boys were working on for him to ponder over.
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I don't think Maynard and APC are stalling Tool's new album. It's pretty much understood that the other 3 band members write the music and then Maynard strolls in towards the end and writes the lyrics, right? I'm pretty sure the band is still very much so in the process of writing the music. Also, I know I heard/read an interview with Maynard once where he talked about being on tour with APC and how he was sent the music of what the Tool boys were working on for him to ponder over.
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Fuck, is there a lesser productive band then Tool? It's a wonder that I keep up with them at all. I don't get the general arguments from Tool fans along the lines of "Let them take their time, it's gonna be totally worth it!!!" and "if they need to take as long as they take to write the next masterpiece, im cool with that". Nah....part of being a great band requires putting out music on a regular basis. Look at Devin Townsend...with the 2 albums due in June he will have had put out 6 albums since Tool released 10,000 days. Even Radiohead has released 3 albums post-2001, Tool has 1. And 10K days wasnt THAT great either...
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Fuck, is there a lesser productive band then Tool? It's a wonder that I keep up with them at all. I don't get the general arguments from Tool fans along the lines of "Let them take their time, it's gonna be totally worth it!!!" and "if they need to take as long as they take to write the next masterpiece, im cool with that". Nah....part of being a great band requires putting out music on a regular basis. Look at Devin Townsend...with the 2 albums due in June he will have had put out 6 albums since Tool released 10,000 days. Even Radiohead has released 3 albums post-2001, Tool has 1. And 10K days wasnt THAT great either...
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part of being a great band requires putting out music on a regular basis.
That statement is complete bullshit tbh
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Less productive...I mean. I need sleep.
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That statement is complete bullshit tbh
part, not all of it.

Obviously putting shit out consistently doesn't make one great.

Meh you're probably right, I'm just frustrated, want a new Tool album and it's been too long.
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That statement is complete bullshit tbh
part, not all of it.

Obviously putting shit out consistently doesn't make one great.

Meh you're probably right, I'm just frustrated, want a new Tool album and it's been too long.
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That statement is complete bullshit tbh
agreed

for example, the band bark psychosis more or less (depending on whose account you listen to) pioneered the genre of post-rock.. or at least, they were among the first bands to be given the label by the music press.. they were and are hugely influential in the post-rock sound.. their first album came out in 1994, their second in 2004.

it takes as long as it takes. and lol @ using devin townsend as an example of a "good" prolific artist.
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That statement is complete bullshit tbh
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for example, the band bark psychosis more or less (depending on whose account you listen to) pioneered the genre of post-rock.. or at least, they were among the first bands to be given the label by the music press.. they were and are hugely influential in the post-rock sound.. their first album came out in 1994, their second in 2004.

it takes as long as it takes. and lol @ using devin townsend as an example of a "good" prolific artist.
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I'm gonna crack up when the next tour sports the same set.
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I'm gonna crack up when the next tour sports the same set.
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stage or songs? or both? lol!
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stage or songs? or both? lol!
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