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Old 05-08-2004, 12:29 PM   #1
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Morningstar

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‘Emptied eyes to face the truth’



I saw a stare inside your eyes.
It’s fearful but I just seem to enjoy,
All the sorrow that it speaks of,
And all the pain it tries to hide.
I saw that dark and empty hole.
It was written by your stare.
I could see that those lines inside me,
When I closed my eyes.
I actually wanted to erase it,
But my feelings are to strong.
Resistance is useless for something,
This powerful as your eyes.

And also not the window,
Can stop you from staring at me.
And also not the mirror,
Can reflect me while staring at you.

Nameless girl, I’ll see you there.
In the morning where I’d wait,
For you to pass by my window.
Oh please, nameless girl,
Can you show me the way to live?
Can you tell me the lies to give?
Or someone else will take my heart.
Let it be yours, let it me mine.

Either not the window,
Can stop you from looking through me.
Either not the mirror,
Can reflect me while looking through you.

Hardly visible, but I feel your breath,
Feeding me love, until my death.
Whispers in my ear, telling me softly a lie,
However it doesn’t feel like I’ll die.
Not today, not in your arms,
Cause I still want to enjoy all your charms.
Though my brain is almost lost,
You show me all that it will cost.
A little more love in your breath,
Will save me from my hateful death…
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Most of you wont get it, but I dont care.
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Old 05-08-2004, 01:24 PM   #2
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Re: Morningstar

wow, i really liked it. i think the best part would be...

Oh please, nameless girl,
Can you show me the way to live?
Can you tell me the lies to give?
Or someone else will take my heart.
Let it be yours, let it me mine.

almost made me cry. very good poem.
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Old 05-08-2004, 01:50 PM   #3
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Re: Morningstar

It was intended to make you cry in the first place... glad you liked it.
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Re: Morningstar

Would it be stupid of me to guess that this is about me?

Well,
I like it. :) You wrote it because of the picture, right? You said it was something about the stare in my eyes. Wich is true. (I think too much).
I have a feeling that I know what you mean by this.
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Old 05-09-2004, 07:57 AM   #5
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Re: Morningstar

Hoped you liked it. :)
And yeah, I already wanted to write something new about you, especially because you are very important for me...
When I saw yer pic, I just couldnt resist anymore... all these words spinning through my head... and I just wrote it down.
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Old 05-09-2004, 10:21 PM   #6
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Re: Morningstar

Yeah, I liked it. :)
And thanks. No one ever writes stuff about/to me. :P
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:47 AM   #7
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Re: Morningstar

Ah, you know why I did it... :)
(if not, ask me through Messenger)
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Re: Morningstar

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Hoped you liked it. :)
And yeah, I already wanted to write something new about you, especially because you are very important for me...
When I saw yer pic, I just couldnt resist anymore... all these words spinning through my head... and I just wrote it down.
:)

sweet jesus.
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:36 AM   #9
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sweet jesus.
Ah... what is it?
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:59 PM   #10
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Re: Morningstar

I am not sure, but it all just seems so pretentious.
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:10 PM   #11
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Re: Morningstar

I really dont know what to say.... all i can think of is.. amazing....
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Old 05-10-2004, 11:23 PM   #12
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Re: Morningstar

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it all just seems so pretentious.
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Old 05-10-2004, 11:30 PM   #13
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Re: Morningstar

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I could see that those lines inside me,
When I closed my eyes.
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You could see that they what?


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This powerful as your eyes.
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What?


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And also not the window,
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Also? That implies that one thing has been mentioned already, which it hasn't.


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Let it be yours, let it me mine.
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Let it you yours? Ok.


None of these parts make any sense at all.


I did, however, like the last stanza. I think it was a bit rough around the edges, but it wasn't terrible.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:21 AM   #14
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Re: Morningstar

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You could see that they what?
Hah... misspeled it.

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What?
You are to shallow to understand.

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Also? That implies that one thing has been mentioned already, which it hasn't..
Thats what I intended to create... try to find it between the lines.

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Let it you yours? Ok.
It definitely says: 'Let it BE yours'! Ok.

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I did, however, like the last stanza. I think it was a bit rough around the edges, but it wasn't terrible.
Ah... a compliment... thank you.
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Old 05-11-2004, 10:55 AM   #15
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Re: Morningstar

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You are to shallow to understand.
What? "This powerful" makes no fucking sense. It has nothing to do with me being shallow.

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Thats what I intended to create... try to find it between the lines.
You intended to create complete confusion? Well that's fine, but if you're going to do that, it should be made more clear that that's youre intent.


Stop acting so goddamn pretentious about your writing.
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Re: Morningstar

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You intended to create complete confusion? Well that's fine, but if you're going to do that, it should be made more clear that that's youre intent.


Stop acting so goddamn pretentious about your writing.
Confusion amongst the people that dont know what it's about...
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:22 PM   #17
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Re: Morningstar

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Confusion amongst the people that dont know what it's about...

Yes, that part of your poem confused. Congratulations, it was a success. However, it was not at all clear that that was your intent, so that portion failed completely. It was completely ineffective in that I just thought you were an idiot. Confusion can be fine in poetry, but you do not accomplish it properly here.
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Re: Morningstar

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wow, i really liked it. i think the best part would be...

Oh please, nameless girl,
Can you show me the way to live?
Can you tell me the lies to give?
Or someone else will take my heart.
Let it be yours, let it me mine.

almost made me cry. very good poem.
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Yeah, I liked it. :)
And thanks. No one ever writes stuff about/to me. :P
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I really dont know what to say.... all i can think of is.. amazing....
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I did, however, like the last stanza. I think it was a bit rough around the edges, but it wasn't terrible.
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Re: Morningstar

What's your fucking point?
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Re: Morningstar

That some people get it and appreciate my work...
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:33 PM   #21
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Re: Morningstar

Some people appreciate good charolette.
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:33 PM   #22
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Re: Morningstar

And some are just idiots.
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:38 PM   #23
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Re: Morningstar

My point exactly.
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:56 PM   #24
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Re: Morningstar

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That some people get it and appreciate my work...
Try taking the critiscim and losing the ego.
If someone sees it being lame and stupid, do not become so defensive.

To me, your writing seems really amature. It is really hard to believe that anyone will become a genious of a writer when they just begin to write. Same goes for anything in the creative process. Just being honest.

The end of the poem seems to me, to be constructed more around the rhyme scheme then around the idea, (whatever that actually is). As soon as you found a word that rhymed with the 1st line, you just wrote something to fit in infront on the second.

It is just the way i see your writing.
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Old 05-11-2004, 05:58 PM   #25
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Re: Morningstar

I don't like it.
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Old 05-11-2004, 06:25 PM   #26
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The poem sucked. It was pretentious with no meaning at all. Meter was blown to hell. It just seems like you had tried to cover up your short commings by causing confusion. Way to act intelligent, asshole.
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Re: Morningstar

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You could see that they what?

What?
Also? That implies that one thing has been mentioned already, which it hasn't.
Let it you yours? Ok.
None of these parts make any sense at all.
I did, however, like the last stanza. I think it was a bit rough around the edges, but it wasn't terrible.

Everyone's a CRITIC! Making remarks such as the above, is compromising the line
of artistic communication. We're all friends here! Maybe it's supposed to be rough around the edges. After all, it is her sculpture.
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We're all friends here!


No we're not. Like you, for example. I don't like you at all.
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No we're not. Like you, for example. I don't like you at all.
I'm pretty sure I'll live, but thanks for asking !
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Re: Morningstar

I don't get why you have a problem with my comments on this poem. I didn't like it, I told windir why, giving him a chance to consider my input and make alterations if he felt it necessary. Why is that a bad thing?
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I don't get why you have a problem with my comments on this poem. I didn't like it, I told windir why, giving him a chance to consider my input and make alterations if he felt it necessary. Why is that a bad thing?
The way in which you flexed your words seemed a little harsh and judgemental.
I wasn't trying to create negative energy between you and myself. I was just
trying to prevent someone from having their creativity challenged. I see so many
negative responses towards other individuals artistic creations. It just upsets
me when I feel like someone is flexing their ego, like they could have done better.
I apologize if I mistook your words for anticonstructive criticism.
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Re: Morningstar

I'm a harsh and judgemental motherfucker.
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I'm a harsh and judgemental motherfucker.
If you are harsh, it's only because you are insecure. Maybe you're just jealous
this poem wasn't about you fucking someone's mother. Grow up and shed
your childhood skin. Instead of fucking your mother
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motherfucker.
Go fuckyourself!
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If you are harsh, it's only because you are insecure.

No, it's because I hate shitty poetry.
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No, it's because I hate shitty poetry.
Who are you to judge someone else's ideas? Hate is for those who
hate only themselves. There are no rules or boundaries when it comes to creating.
But in your case, I guess you're the exception to the rule. With a mind as full
of anger and hate as yours is, I guess there's no room to create anything else.
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Who are you to judge someone else's ideas?
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Hate is for those who hate only themselves.
It works both ways, man...

"You label me; I'll label you..."
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It works both ways, man...

"You label me; I'll label you..."
Easy there METALLICA. Don't get
your mullet in a knot.
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Easy there METALLICA. Don't get
your mullet in a knot.
Good-natured sarcasm, I hope.

Relativism requires a lot more discipline than many would dare believe. Whilst it enables its advocates an easy means of defense, it also removes entirely their capacity to criticise.

What if I wanted to get my mullet in a knot, after all? Who would you be to judge that? I'm not trying to be hostile, here, but relativism is a very sharp double-edged blade, and I think that this is overlooked far too often.
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I waited for this... cause now I get REAL critic... thank you.
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Ever think Windir could be boytoydotcom? I'm starting to.
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