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Old 10-18-2006, 09:45 AM   #1
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How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

I hear everyone boast about sober, how great it is, how it needs to be played at every concert, bla bla bla. Well, Prison Sex has been undermined for too long. It's a fucking awesome tune with more punch, heart, and melody than sober. I say this is the new undertow track that should be present at every concert.

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Old 10-18-2006, 11:44 AM   #2
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

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I hear everyone boast about sober, how great it is, how it needs to be played at every concert, bla bla bla. Well, Prison Sex has been undermined for too long. It's a fucking awesome tune with more punch, heart, and melody than sober. I say this is the new undertow track that should be present at every concert.

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I agree. Prison Sex and Undertow.
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:43 PM   #3
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

yeah, Undertow FTW .

I stand corrected.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:59 PM   #4
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Good call, Iota. Sober this tour was a bit played out. I would have loved to hear Prison Sex.
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:23 AM   #5
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Thank you, fateless. As ive heard it, it's always been played out a bit too much. I think my opinion is biased (duh), since i was suckered into Tool with PS... i LUV that foken t00n. foken luv it.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

I was always more into sober than prison sex and fucking loved seeing them paly it this tour - in terms of emotion it had the most for me compared to any other track I saw them play live this summer. however I have been really getting into prison sex lately and totally agree that it would be fucking awesome to hear them play this live - guess it's just another one to add to the list of least likely to's though... shame.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

prison sex live: wowzers.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Undertow is great live! I would prefer Prison Sex to Sober but the ultimate for me would be to see 4 degrees live
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Prison Sex is the best followed by Four Degrees and Undertow.
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:33 PM   #10
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

^ i love to find people as smart as me.
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:41 PM   #11
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^ i love to find people as smart as me.
Thanks! I guess...
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:09 PM   #12
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

prison sex is just so awesome, its such an emotional song, best song off undertow for me, followed up by sober, and 4 degrees
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

...yet, another example.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Yeah I'm not even all that crazy about sober.
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PS is too slick for sober to handle.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:09 AM   #17
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

I'd pretty much prefer any song from Undertow instead of Sober live just because I've heard it live so many times and I'm just not that big a fan of the song. Intolerance would be nice.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

I support this thread. Sober has been played on the radio a bunch, and that's what people usually want to hear(songs played on the radio). They don't know any better.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

poor bastards dont know any better
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Yeah, and Prison Sex got in the whole MTV "controversy", so people couldn't watch it on TV. It just never had the chance to get popular, even if it is one of Tool's best songs ever.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

even though i'm burned out on sober, it came back to life in concert BUT prison sex is my favorite song on undertow so HELL YA!

"I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this poop, vein juice, and jizz on my hands!....that's the kind of intensity i want to see live.
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LOL
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I would be whole-heartedly with you on this campaign, however, I cant make up my mind between two of the finest songs buttsecks ever created--prison sex and 4 degrees. I love da buttsecks soo much (used to not love it soo much, then Maynard sings about it and now I cant stop), my dream is to have buttsecks with someone (my wife wll do, and listening to each song pumped in separate earphones. Sort of a sterioaduiosodomy experience.

I guess Ill go with Prison Sex. Much more aninmalistic.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

more descriptive, IMO
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

flood beats the hell out of prison sex


flood
undertow
sober

then prison sex

sorry iota i aint as 'smart' as you xe xe
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

I'm with you on this one - prison sex is definitely the seminal track - I saw them unleash that live (it was in '95 or '96) - best track of the show - fuckin blew me away
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

i'd love to hear flood
"this ground is not the rock i thought it would be"
and the build up in the begining....
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thats ok, sotos.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Actually, it's my second favorite Tool song alltime.

Yes, yes... Good song...
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hehe 'seminal'...Freudian slip perhaps?

I, for one, am in agreeance. PS rocks.

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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

SEMINAL INDEED

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Sober is a two note song...it's bound to be a legend.
but then again...prison sex realy rox :)
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Prison Secks.
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

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I hear everyone boast about sober, how great it is, how it needs to be played at every concert, bla bla bla. Well, Prison Sex has been undermined for too long. It's a fucking awesome tune with more punch, heart, and melody than sober. I say this is the new undertow track that should be present at every concert.

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I've heard this live once, it was amazing. Most of the crowd didn't know what it was, but it was definitely cool.

I wish they would play more old stuff. I heard undertow & 4degrees live too. They were incredible (undertow was the best)
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Howcome nobody recognizes Crawl Away as one of the great Undertow tracks?
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Re: How come this isnt the seminal track of the album?

Seriously. Crawl Away, 4 Degrees, and Flood are my personal favorites. I like Prison Sex, but I wouldn't say it's my favorite by any means. I wouldn't say Sober is either, though. Actually, Sober is pretty much the odd man out on Undertow; all the other songs have a similar tone, but Sober is just out there. (Okay, 4 Degrees is a bit off too, but not as much as Sober.) However, Sober is important because most people get into Tool through it (I certainly did). Actually, it's pretty typical...eventually you leave the song you cut your teeth on for better, if less popular, ones (nobody who gets into Tool by themselves listens to Lateralus - the song - first, and damn are they missing out). There are exceptions, but only in crappy bands.
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Crawl Away pwns as well.

BTW, wtf is that indian chant at the beginning?
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