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Old 12-10-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
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An Apology To Everyone At toolshed.down.net: Poetry And Prose

Starting some three or so years ago, when I had just recently turned fifteen, I stumbled upon this particular website. I found this particular sub-forum, and, to put it bluntly, began ripping a good deal of the creative works posted on here for my own. Sometimes I would change the content, though never very much. I think the reason for that being, I was trying to fool myself into thinking it was something more that just plagiarism. The fact being that it was though, is inescapable.

I am sorry for the actions, and the wrong I have done to all of you. I intend never to do this again. And although you have no good reason to believe me, it is the truth.

Although they were posted on this account: http://seppo-ilmarien.deviantart.com/
They are as of now deleted, but I will make no attempt to hide the act I have committed.

I am sorry, to all of you here on TDN.
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:01 PM   #2
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Ya would have got away with it, were it not for the fact that I am a habitual googler of TDN poetry.

Kudos for owning up.

Clarification: When I read something in P&P that I like and want to comment on, I always choose one or two lines from the piece and google them. The reason I do this, is to make sure as best I can that the piece is original and has not been plagiarized. Nearly three years ago, I commented on the writing of a poster here named t00lhead. I was very fond of his poetry and gave much praise to it. As it turned out, he was plagiarist and was posting another poets work, changing titles and such, and taking credit for words that were not his own. I find this repugnant. That experience has tuned me into somewhat of a pessimist when it comes to most of the writing posted here. That is why I habitually google poetry before commenting on it.

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Ya would have got away with it, were it not for the fact that I am a habitual googler of TDN poetry.

Kudos for owning up.
For what it is worth, I am amazed by some of the things posted on here.
And while I did leave up some thirty or so deviations, those are all my own.
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Re: An Apology To Everyone At toolshed.down.net: Poetry And Prose

Sherlock Shax was on the case. So I'm glad you revealed yourself and apologized Jambon.

edit:Thanks for owning up dude.
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lotus, think about the reactions by previous tdn'ers who have done the same thing and then been caught out. Have any of them ever apologized? No. They mostly just hide or disappear.

At least Jambon has done the right thing.
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Yeah, I agree Shax. I am glad that you manned up and apologized Jambon.


The thing I'm mad at was him getting praise for our work on devinatART. That's that.
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I forgive you man, first step on the path of redemption is to start posting your stuff here instead of deviantart. It's not like you pulled the "oh I meant to give the author(s) credit - oopsy!" card. I really don't care either way when it comes to my stuff, I'm more flattered than I am angry. I'm not even angry. Thanks for plagiarizing whatever it is you took from me, it gave me a boner.
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It should do, most of it was from your "dick diary".
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Yeah, I agree Shax. I am glad that you manned up and apologized Jambon.


The thing I'm mad at was him getting praise for our work on devinatART. That's that.
I'm hoping anyone who took the time to look at the page, will take the time to look at this, and realize where roughly 90% of my submissions came from.
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It should do, most of it was from your "dick diary".
lol, good times.
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LOL ok I'm laughing now about it now.

I won't hold a grudge man. I guess like Jayar said, I should be flattered that someone stole my poems.
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I'm hoping anyone who took the time to look at the page, will take the time to look at this, and realize where roughly 90% of my submissions came from.
I actually do like the fact you picked all my favorite writers here on tdn, heh.
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feel free to take anything i've posted in p&p and pretend it's yours.
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Starting some three or so years ago, when I had just recently turned fifteen, I stumbled upon this particular website. I found this particular sub-forum, and, to put it bluntly, began ripping a good deal of the creative works posted on here for my own. Sometimes I would change the content, though never very much. I think the reason for that being, I was trying to fool myself into thinking it was something more that just plagiarism. The fact being that it was though, is inescapable.

I am sorry for the actions, and the wrong I have done to all of you. I intend never to do this again. And although you have no good reason to believe me, it is the truth.

Although they were posted on this account: http://seppo-ilmarien.deviantart.com/
They are as of now deleted, but I will make no attempt to hide the act I have committed.

I am sorry, to all of you here on TDN.
Well that was pretty much a complete lie, wasn't it Jambon?
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huh?
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http://seppo-ilmarien.deviantart.com/

dA scrapped.
Ban this account, ban by IP if possible.
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i think we'll keep the account so we'll be notified if you register another.
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huh?
He's back to his old tricks.
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i think we'll keep the account so we'll be notified if you register another.
Either way, I'm done here.

I may not know a hell of a lot about the world, but I know when I need to abstain from something. I can't tell you why I did what I did, and I don't think anyone here would honestly care to hear if I did have a reason. Not because you're bitter, but because there is no acceptable reason for all this.

Last post you'll ever hear from me, last time I'll load TDN.

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http://seppo-ilmarien.deviantart.com/

dA scrapped.
Ban this account, ban by IP if possible.
I don't doubt for a second that you will create another dA account and carry on plagiarizing other peoples writing.

Your apology and promises mean nothing here.
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OmG he copied something off my lifejounral

if i was getting paid for posting my poetry on tdn i'd be soooooooo mad
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If he can actually get any of it published, I think that's deserved of some kind of finder's fee. I'd just like a free copy.
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i only banned him because he didn't think mine/gretal's poetry was thievery-worthy.
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what a ham, that guy.
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If he can actually get any of it published, I think that's deserved of some kind of finder's fee. I'd just like a free copy.
maybe you could consider jambon as the pooling together of everyone's poetical resources? it's just that much more chance that the poetry will get published! if only he would share the wealth...
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maybe you could consider jambon as the pooling together of everyone's poetical resources? it's just that much more chance that the poetry will get published! if only he would share the wealth...
but how do you make a 5-6 person split on a free copy of an obscure local magazine?
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but how do you make a 5-6 person split on a free copy of an obscure local magazine?
everyone gets 1/6th of the magazine's pages

i guess i should have specified, by published i meant published in something someone cares enough about to at least pay more than nothing for. obscure free local 6 page 'zine does not fall into this category.
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if he can wait 3 or more months for $50, shiiit I get more off my GST credit on a quarterly.

not to encourage it, plagiarism is still bad mmmmmmkaayy.
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i only banned him because he didn't think mine/gretal's poetry was thievery-worthy.
right on!

also, the pm i sent you today wasn't about jambon if you didn't open it yet...
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i would be flattered if someone used one of my poems

atleast he had the testicular fortitude to own up to it
AND do it again, the testes on this guy!
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He didn't own up to anything.
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