opin.menu.members.jpgopin.menu.forumfaq.jpgopin.menu.search.jpgopin.menu.home.jpgview our wiki

Go Back  The Tool Page: Opinion » Tool » Live » Live Discussion
User Name
Password
Reply
Old 07-11-2009, 01:33 PM   #41
Level 10 - Vehement
 
eulogys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fuck Florida
Posts: 2,013
Bincount™: 206
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellKov View Post
I really want to travel to see them! I really wish there was some way to know what set list they were going to play!
For someone who hasn't seen them, the set list really shouldn't matter at all. I've seen them 30+ times and really don't care what they play. Even if the Georgia and NH show have the same set list, I'm going to enjoy both shows. Sure, there's a handful (maybe less) of songs that I haven't seen them play live that I would love to hear at either of the shows I'm attending ('ticks' comes to mind), but it's irrelevant to actually just seeing them play anything.
__________________
'09 TDN Fantasy Football Champion
'09/'10 TDN Fantasy Hockey Champion
'10 TDN World Cup Pool Champion
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 08:12 PM   #42
Level 2 - Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 8
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by eulogys View Post
For someone who hasn't seen them, the set list really shouldn't matter at all. I've seen them 30+ times and really don't care what they play. Even if the Georgia and NH show have the same set list, I'm going to enjoy both shows. Sure, there's a handful (maybe less) of songs that I haven't seen them play live that I would love to hear at either of the shows I'm attending ('ticks' comes to mind), but it's irrelevant to actually just seeing them play anything.
Where in FL did you move to? I just moved to FL last month from NY and my problem is that I would be going by myself to the show if I did go, b/c I don't know anyone down here yet. I guess it really doesn't matter what songs they play you're right. I want to see them so bad but I don't know if I should risk going alone, in a car that sucks haha
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 10:02 PM   #43
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Santa Barbara
Posts: 64
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellKov View Post
I've never been to a Tool show but I love them more than any other band. I can't even listen to other music sometimes b/c I think nothing compares to Tool. Anyways, I really want to see them this summer but the only show I could make it to is 8 hours away does anyone have experience with travelling that far to see Tool/ or think its worth it?
Absolutely worth it for a first timer. Worth driving that far, getting a hotel, and rolling solo if you can't find anybody to go with you. Especially since (fingers crossed) this is not attached to an album, hence possibly more well rounded show album wise (I'll settle for even just slightly).
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009, 09:49 AM   #44
Level 3 - Talker
 
marauderthirty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 17
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Have you ever thought that there may be an upside to this not being part of the 10,000 Days Tour... Like maybe a setlist that isn't 90% 10,000 Days material?
__________________
Colorado Springs 10/13/02 || Denver 5/10/06 || Englewood 8/30/06 || Colorado Springs 5/9/07 || Denver 11/21/07 || Denver 7/18/09
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009, 12:24 PM   #45
Level 8 - Vociferous
 
TheRuleOfThree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 519
Bincount™: 23
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

This post hurts my head.

PS - I love the idea that Tool weren't selling an image when they were dark and mysterious, but now that you can see their faces and Maynard wears jeans now and then they're all of a sudden sell-outs. People don't seem to understand when their own opinion is just as bad as the alternative.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 09:01 PM   #46
Level 4 - Thinker
 
isthesystemdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 26
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Just to point out, to those saying capitalism is bad. Capitalism is one reason why we are a great nation, and also a factor in why the economy is failing. The lack of capitalism is truly hurting us right now. Rich dont spend their money and let it trickle down the economy, and find ways to get rich on the side with no investment, and we take dirt and crappy jobs and say were happy. The technology increases, but the standard of living keeps getting crappier and more expensive. This is a whole different discussion entirely, but for now, just be glad Tool is playing in their same fashion and enjoy it while it lasts.




Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRuleOfThree View Post
This post hurts my head.

PS - I love the idea that Tool weren't selling an image when they were dark and mysterious, but now that you can see their faces and Maynard wears jeans now and then they're all of a sudden sell-outs. People don't seem to understand when their own opinion is just as bad as the alternative.
__________________
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Nicholas_Renaud/113800677" title="Nicholas Renaud's Facebook profile" target=_TOP><img src="http://badge.facebook.com/badge/113800677.42.961585768.png" border=0 alt="Nicholas Renaud's Facebook profile"></a>
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2009, 03:20 PM   #47
Introverted Extrovert
 
ladycommish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: in your closet
Posts: 3,356
Bincount™: 6698
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AbsoluteJesus View Post
I just recently became a Tool fan and didnt think i would be able to see them until 2112 when they would get together to perform Aenima as the world was ending
hm. I'd love to see this. but...I think I will probably be dead by then or someone/something else in another life. as will the band and you. unless you have some kind of supernatural mystical powers.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:13 PM   #48
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

So im guessing a lot of you are agreeing with me now that the setlist is identical to the shows 3 years ago.

I am very prophetic, i knew this tour would suck for long time fans.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:56 PM   #49
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
 
Illuminus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 134
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
So im guessing a lot of you are agreeing with me now that the setlist is identical to the shows 3 years ago.

I am very prophetic, i knew this tour would suck for long time fans.
Haha yeah I wish I wasnt so delusionally optimistic when I first read they were doing another tour back in May. I didnt spend all that much to travel to see them in SLC, but it was still a let down. All the peeps who are happy about the same set they have seen from the last 2 years must be newbie fans or just dont get how important Tool really is in the shit filled world of music out there. They created the responsibility of being truely unique, and they are failing to uphold that responsiblity by playing the same songs and becoming stale. Why oh why Tool are you not keeping it fresh when you so easily could? The songs they are playing are phenomenal and I have listened to them all multiple times, but I dont have to spend $50 to press play on my CD player, ya know?

For first timers, this show is excellent, but for those who saw them anytime in 2007 should be let down if you ask me.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:36 PM   #50
Level 4 - Thinker
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Athens,GA
Posts: 25
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
So im guessing a lot of you are agreeing with me now that the setlist is identical to the shows 3 years ago.

I am very prophetic, i knew this tour would suck for long time fans.
Nope.you're still a dumbass who just wants to find something to bitch about so you feel special.Now I feel special.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 04:27 PM   #51
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner 37 View Post
Nope.you're still a dumbass who just wants to find something to bitch about so you feel special.Now I feel special.
Definately a newb tool fan. I can spot them from a mile away. Only standing up and singing to Schism and Vicarious. Its so pathetic its cute.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 05:20 PM   #52
Level 9 - Obstreperous
 
hbynoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bequia
Posts: 1,671
Bincount™: 801
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellKov View Post
I've never been to a Tool show but I love them more than any other band. I can't even listen to other music sometimes b/c I think nothing compares to Tool. Anyways, I really want to see them this summer but the only show I could make it to is 8 hours away does anyone have experience with travelling that far to see Tool/ or think its worth it?

Me and my fiance are coming from the southern caribbean, via NYC over to OH for the night to see tool. i have seen them 11 times. She never has, i study in NYC, she is coming up to see my life and tool...i am sure tool before my life. seeing tool is always worth it...consider yourself lucky it is only 8 hours.
__________________
http://www.hbynoe.com my art
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 06:22 PM   #53
Level 4 - Thinker
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Athens,GA
Posts: 25
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
Definately a newb tool fan. I can spot them from a mile away. Only standing up and singing to Schism and Vicarious. Its so pathetic its cute.
I've been to at least one show of every US tour since 1993's Undertow tour,and have been on this site way before you,unless like me your name is a new name,if so,then who knows.And if you think you're a prophet because you foresaw that a bunch of Tool fans would complain and whine about what songs Tool did or didn't play then you are probably the newb.Sorry you've became so cynical and jaded,hopefully one day you'll move past your negativity,if not,i'tll continue to swallow your Soul whole.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 06:38 PM   #54
Level 10 - Vehement
 
Yast3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,557
Bincount™: 480
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by swall View Post
uplifting lyrics? Lateralus was uplifting. 10K couldn't lift my ball sac (and I has small balls)
Lateralus has an uplifting meaning, but the message is convoluted with its delivery. Lateralus isn't catchy, upbeat and sometimes can be hard to listen to if you're not in the right mood for it. 10,000 Days on the other hand is more of an 'everyday' album, it's faster, louder, and if I may use the word, enjoyable. I really don't see why it gets shit on by everyone. It's a fantastic album and it is in my opinion a great refreshment from the rest of the Tool library.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 06:41 PM   #55
Level 10 - Vehement
 
Yast3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,557
Bincount™: 480
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by swall View Post
and bingo was his name-o.

Imagine having THEE best drummer, rockin' creative bass and art minded guitarist at your disposal and you bitch about a short tour or would rather crush grapes? fuck me
Sometimes a man can have the greatest wife in the world, yet he gets caught with the office secretary. We can't resist our temptations, and if wine is his calling over rock music, that's his decision. It's pretty obvious he has changed greatly over the years, one needs to look no further than Puscifer to see this.

Also, I don't see him complaining anywhere about the tour--or implying that he'd much rather work on his vineyard. Hearsay around this forum sure spreads as a common 'fact' pretty fast.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 07:57 PM   #56
Level 7 - Loquacious
 
toolrox19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: depends
Posts: 336
Bincount™: 4
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by crincled View Post
On the other hand I do like the direction the band has taken: less anger, more uplifting lyrics, and they have also managed to stay musically sharp. I think this tour is for them to warm up for the recording of the new album, and to make some money for recording expenses. imo, of course.
this is one of the best ways of putting it ive heard yet. i compleatly agree
__________________
"It starts with understanding of suffering, not by mere mind, but by the PURIFIED MIND."
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 10:04 PM   #57
Level 4 - Thinker
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Athens,GA
Posts: 25
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yast3r View Post
It's pretty obvious he has changed greatly over the years, one needs to look no further than Puscifer to see this.
eh,not really,C.A.D. is very Puscifer like, minus all the great recording gear.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 10:26 PM   #58
Level 4 - Thinker
 
isthesystemdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 26
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

i know this isnt album discussion, but what can be assume for the next album then? Maynard always seems to want to invent further tangents and branches away from undertow as time has gone on and is looking into the future rather then saying how horrible it is in the presently (very bland description for the sake of time, but quality cant be passed up, yes) so can we find a much safer and bridging set for their next album, or will it delve just as dark only to pull you out into the light after an amazing journey like in lateralus? Guesses?
__________________
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Nicholas_Renaud/113800677" title="Nicholas Renaud's Facebook profile" target=_TOP><img src="http://badge.facebook.com/badge/113800677.42.961585768.png" border=0 alt="Nicholas Renaud's Facebook profile"></a>
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 10:26 PM   #59
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
 
Illuminus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 134
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yast3r View Post
I really don't see why it gets shit on by everyone. It's a fantastic album and it is in my opinion a great refreshment from the rest of the Tool library.
10,000 Days is amazing. I whole heartedly agree with you that its a fantastic piece. A great evolution for sure. I always laugh when someone complains about any of their albums.

The music is not the problem here people, its the stale attitudes that's causing such frustration within people who understand Tool and understand the status they have created for themselves. They are not living up to the standards they themselves set. Get it through your grateful heads that this tour is confusing to anyone who truly see's Tool for who they are, or should I say were? Fuck it hurts to say that....
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 11:09 AM   #60
Level 2 - Poster
 
Christopher-GOBLIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 9
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PRYING OPEN MY THRID EYE View Post
driving to charlotte from indy by myself for bojangles show...Can't wait
Me too brother, from Columbus, Ohio. It'll be a long drive but it will totally worth it. Then again in Cincinasty OH, of course. I may try to go to the VA show, but dunno if I would be able to scalp a ticket for the floor for under $200.
__________________
My family crest is a picture of a Goblin Shark eating an 80's hair-metal glam band.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 07:37 PM   #61
Level 1 - Lurker
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: One Infinite Loop
Posts: 2
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

(kindof generally responding to the main point of this and not too anyone in specific)
It was my first time catching Tool this time around...so I was pretty stoked, granted ive been listening to them since 98 roughly...never had an opp to catch their show and not to diss any die hard tool fans...it just seem some put them on a pedestal.
I agree with alot have said regarding this sort of out of the blue mini-escapade.
While theyre miles above alot of other groups that record and perform live, this was a new experience and a great one at that even if it was rehashed or done sometime ago..its new to me.
I think they could tour without really even having to support album; theyre still supporting their ideals and the whole concept of who they are... but perhaps I might not be getting the point of 'Tool'.
to me, performing is performing. and everyone involved from the band to the techs and lighting were phenomenal and crafted a great experience.
id love another chance to experience this again...so hopefully its warm up for a new production

Last edited by gravenewworld; 07-23-2009 at 08:11 PM..
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 04:57 PM   #62
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Grave, i agree wholeheartedly. If you are seeing tool for the first time, with the exception of maynard's voice on certain parts...it will be the best concert you will have the opportunity to see.

This whole post was more geared towards tool veterans who have seen them 5+ times. Specifically those who saw them during the 10kdays tour in 2006-7. For these people, this tour will be a let down.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 05:31 PM   #63
Level 7 - Loquacious
 
Thatsarealzinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: I'm around.
Posts: 222
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
Grave, i agree wholeheartedly. If you are seeing tool for the first time, with the exception of maynard's voice on certain parts...it will be the best concert you will have the opportunity to see.

This whole post was more geared towards tool veterans who have seen them 5+ times. Specifically those who saw them during the 10kdays tour in 2006-7. For these people, this tour will be a let down.
I have seen Tool shows in 2006 and 2007, as well as 2001 and 2002. I can promise you that as long as Tool gives it their all, which I'm sure they will, ithe show I see next week will not be a letdown for me.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 05:38 PM   #64
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

If you have low standards and dont expect anything out of your favorite musicians that you have personally given 10+thousand dollars too...then sure, you wont ever be let down. If they came out, and maynard sang 1/2 the songs you wouldnt be let down, because you dont hold them up to any standards.

Me? I hold tool up to standards i hold every band up to. I want them to sound better than a tool cover band....Maynard, unfortunately...doesnt.

EXCEPTION: I just listened to a live version of flood that is about 1 1/2 minutes long and maynard sounded better than he ever did on the 10kdays tour. Maybe there is hope for his voice.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 05:50 PM   #65
Level 7 - Loquacious
 
Thatsarealzinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: I'm around.
Posts: 222
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
If you have low standards and dont expect anything out of your favorite musicians that you have personally given 10+thousand dollars too...then sure, you wont ever be let down. If they came out, and maynard sang 1/2 the songs you wouldnt be let down, because you dont hold them up to any standards.

Me? I hold tool up to standards i hold every band up to. I want them to sound better than a tool cover band....Maynard, unfortunately...doesnt.

EXCEPTION: I just listened to a live version of flood that is about 1 1/2 minutes long and maynard sounded better than he ever did on the 10kdays tour. Maybe there is hope for his voice.
I appreciate your viewpoint, but please don't tell me whether or not I hold them up to any standards. You don't know me well enough to comment on my standards. I'm not trying to sound rude or mean, and I understand how you feel, just word your statement better next time.

You know what, I listened to some audio from the current tour and I thought that about Maynard as well. He seems to sound as good as, if not better, than he did 2 or 3 years ago. I think he has sounded about the same since 2001/2002 anyway.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 06:14 PM   #66
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
 
darkslayer96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Baltimore, MD or a Realm Of Extasy
Posts: 138
Bincount™: 21
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

I think they're just showing off their new lights and laser show. I can see a big difference between the 10,000 days shows and the current 2009 tour.

lol
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 06:47 PM   #67
Level 4 - Thinker
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Athens,GA
Posts: 25
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
Grave, i agree wholeheartedly. If you are seeing tool for the first time, with the exception of maynard's voice on certain parts...it will be the best concert you will have the opportunity to see.

This whole post was more geared towards tool veterans who have seen them 5+ times. Specifically those who saw them during the 10kdays tour in 2006-7. For these people, this tour will be a let down.
dude I love how our telling me how I'm gonna feel about a show.I've listened to the Lateralus CD so much I've worn out 2 of them(and I take very good care of my CD's)and I still feel the same way every time I listen to it.Same thing goes for other great movies,music,media in general.Just because you have became jaded and cynical doesn't mean everyone feels the same way.This will be the 10th(hopefully 11th too,if I can afford to go to Charlotte),and I can guarantee you I will be dancing my ass off and loving every minute of it.Stay positive.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 07:43 PM   #68
Level 8 - Vociferous
 
plexus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 812
Bincount™: 17
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
If you have low standards and dont expect anything out of your favorite musicians that you have personally given 10+thousand dollars too...then sure, you wont ever be let down. If they came out, and maynard sang 1/2 the songs you wouldnt be let down, because you dont hold them up to any standards.

Me? I hold tool up to standards i hold every band up to. I want them to sound better than a tool cover band....Maynard, unfortunately...doesnt.

EXCEPTION: I just listened to a live version of flood that is about 1 1/2 minutes long and maynard sounded better than he ever did on the 10kdays tour. Maybe there is hope for his voice.
elton john for the im a turd win.
__________________
theres a feeling i get
when i look to the west
and my spirit is crying for reason
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 07:47 PM   #69
Level 5 - Deep Thinker
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Ill see you in grand prairie plexus and then you can say that to my face woman. In all seriousness...im thinking about painting a big black stripe down my face like maynard did during the lateralus tour. My GF is going for her first time and id really like to embarrass her as much as possible.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 10:31 AM   #70
Level 4 - Thinker
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ky
Posts: 28
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
I guess the gods of prog art rock have finally sold out. Doing a small summer tour only a year and some change after their last tour? This isnt the TooL i grew up listening to. Oversaturation was what they completely steered clear of back in the 90s. Now it seems they are just capitalist business men who are in it for the buck. This is too soon for a new tour and i say this being the biggest tool fan i know.

TooL is turning into bon jovi or ozzy osbourne or metallica...touring without an album being released. I guess the $ wins out over carefully planned and constructed art in the end...it always does. Unless Maynard has had vocal surgery and can actually sing like he could in the 90s again...i will always disagree with this tour.

TooL is slowly becomming watered down and it just pisses me off. From them showing their faces on the 10kdays CD to them doing every single dumb ass interview they can get in any retarded metal magazine, to Maynard doing "Puscifer" and showing us that he is hands down the weakest link in tool, to maynard wearing cowboy hats and boots with tight jeans and no shirt on stage trying to look "sexy", to maynard exploiting his celebrity status to sell his wine instead of letting his wine sell its self because it is a good product. If you told me all of this was going to happen in the 90s i wouldnt have believed you for a second.

Its all so god damn [slur removed]. I want my demon maynard back...not this wine selling "rapper" who sings some of the time in the best band on the planet.
X10000
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 11:03 AM   #71
Level 2 - Poster
 
caddywompus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Land of Cleves
Posts: 7
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

They are still going.......
Look at all the bands they started with. None of them are together, some are dead, and many can't play a lick or rhyme if they even wanted to........and they probably do!
Tool has evolved into the best band of my era.......I don't know how old many of you are-
I'm am very proud that I'm still going to Tool shows, they still sound good and I'm loving it!
__________________
I'm not thinking.......I'm doing
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 12:31 PM   #72
Level 7 - Loquacious
 
Schema's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Where I have a high Bincount.
Posts: 492
Bincount™: 336
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Just think of it this way...

Tool doesn't need an album to tour. They're that badass.
__________________
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 12:48 PM   #73
On Probation
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,016
Bincount™: 7922
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schema View Post
Just think of it this way...

Tool doesn't need an album to tour. They're that badass.
end of thread.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 01:40 PM   #74
Level 4 - Thinker
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Under a Dead oHIo Sky
Posts: 40
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

I've seen Tool 4 times already, started with Lolla in 1997. I consider myself to be a veteran fan, and have seen all the different tours since then. Am I somewhat disapointed that this tour is very similar to the sets I seen a couple years ago, yes. But, that doesn't get me down at all. Tool is coming to town, I have pit seats and I'm stupid excited about it. I've never had this good of seats to a Tool show, and I probably never will again. I can't wait. Who cares if they don't have a new album to tour on? If they would have done an extra tour in between Aenima and Lateralus everybody would have been excited as shit about it. As fans of a band, I don't see why it should matter that they don't have new material to play, or they are playing the same stuff we have already seen. I love the songs they are playing, so I'm not complaining at all. I could understand some of you guys being more upset if you went to alot of shows on the 10K Days tour, but I only went twice, so it's not like I've seen these songs too many times.

My favorite band is coming to town, and I'm going. And, I am very excited and can't wait. That's all there is to it to me.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 01:46 PM   #75
Jedi Master
 
Rolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Yavin IV
Posts: 4,033
Bincount™: 2635
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
I'm thinking about painting a big black stripe down my face like maynard did during the lateralus tour.
Cool! Be sure to use a permanent marker for the deep black effect.
__________________
JOIN THE ACADEMY
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 01:49 PM   #76
Jedi Master
 
Rolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Yavin IV
Posts: 4,033
Bincount™: 2635
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by capthowdy1027 View Post
My favorite band is coming to town, and I'm going. And, I am very excited and can't wait. That's all there is to it to me.
Good for you. My only complaint would be them not coming to Europe for a second round :(
__________________
JOIN THE ACADEMY
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 02:08 PM   #77
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
 
Illuminus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 134
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schema View Post
Just think of it this way...

Tool doesn't need an album to tour. They're that badass.
The thread title isnt implying Tool needs an album to tour. The reason Elton titled the thread that way is because Tool have been using the same process for about a decade now. They release an epic album, base the tours theme off the vibe of the new album and tour the shit out of the planet for 2 years. Then 3 years pass and they release another album, and so on.

When they announced this tour, a lot of us hoped that would mean different songs than what they just finished playing 300 or so times.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 08:15 PM   #78
Level 1 - Lurker
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: LA
Posts: 1
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elton John View Post
I guess the gods of prog art rock have finally sold out. Doing a small summer tour only a year and some change after their last tour? This isnt the TooL i grew up listening to. Oversaturation was what they completely steered clear of back in the 90s. Now it seems they are just capitalist business men who are in it for the buck. This is too soon for a new tour and i say this being the biggest tool fan i know.

TooL is turning into bon jovi or ozzy osbourne or metallica...touring without an album being released. I guess the $ wins out over carefully planned and constructed art in the end...it always does. Unless Maynard has had vocal surgery and can actually sing like he could in the 90s again...i will always disagree with this tour.

TooL is slowly becomming watered down and it just pisses me off. From them showing their faces on the 10kdays CD to them doing every single dumb ass interview they can get in any retarded metal magazine, to Maynard doing "Puscifer" and showing us that he is hands down the weakest link in tool, to maynard wearing cowboy hats and boots with tight jeans and no shirt on stage trying to look "sexy", to maynard exploiting his celebrity status to sell his wine instead of letting his wine sell its self because it is a good product. If you told me all of this was going to happen in the 90s i wouldnt have believed you for a second.

Its all so god damn [slur removed]. I want my demon maynard back...not this wine selling "rapper" who sings some of the time in the best band on the planet.
I'm a long time Tool fan, new to this forum. I particularly enjoy reading people's opinions about where Tool is at right now compared to where they hoped Tool would be, such as touring without new music. I know we all would ravenously consume any new material, but I always have to wonder about how we as fans set up expectations. We hope for the band (or Maynard, specifically) to be the guy who wrote those angry words in the 90's. He's grown, shouldn't we? Imagine if your parents wanted you to only date that one girl they liked 10 years ago, would you pretend to be the person you were ten years ago, just to make them happy? Ironically, the same quality we love about Tool, their refusal to conform to expectations, is probably the same reason we may never see them again perform some of the early material live. I read that fans have heard the band, minus Maynard, soundchecking "Hooker". Maybe that's them playing it for the joy of playing, knowing Maynard won't ever sing it live again.

As most bands who have survived as long as Tool has, they have all grown and become new versions of themsleves, and I think from watching them on stage, it might be clear they are not as close as they once were (or as close I imagined them, coming together in LA), as evidenced by the lack of a "group hug" we have seen at past shows. They all have other interests, and return to their partnership to create more art. Or is it commerce? Maybe both.

I'll pose a hypotheical question to you, curious to know what Tool fans here have to offer...

If the band has grown apart, which would you rather have: a yearly month long summer tour, with no new songs, or, have the band break up and preserve what some fans see as a level of integrity they hope will never be watered down? Would you rather see Maynard up there, hating it, doing it out of some obligation to the band or the fans, or would you rather see him happily farming grapes in Arizona? And when you answer that last one, be aware of your own selfishness.

Do we condemn them for putting their faces on a t-shirt and getting one step closer to Mettalica-dom or do we continue to buy tickets for the arena shows, knowing the band is past its creative prime?

Another thing, hasn't Maynard complained for years about camera flashes and laser pointers aimed at him? Do us all a favor and if someone near you points one of those annoying laser pointers at the stage, grab it and stomp on it. I guess its inevitable that with audiences of 10,000 plus, there are bound to be people who don't get it.

One more thing, I think this summer tour is a chance to dust off the cobwebs and re-connect. Danny, Justin and Adam seem to be ready to get back into the woodshed.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 03:22 AM   #79
Level 3 - Talker
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Earth
Posts: 10
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Holy shit dude. Maybe they enjoy touring? As for money making off it, good for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the money went into the studio for the next album.
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2009, 09:27 PM   #80
Level 6 - Very Deep Thinker
 
Illuminus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 134
Bincount™: 0
Re: TooL Tour without an Album?

Quote:
Originally Posted by EyeFlys View Post
Holy shit dude. Maybe they enjoy touring? As for money making off it, good for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the money went into the studio for the next album.
Unlikely

Last edited by Illuminus; 08-16-2009 at 03:04 AM..
OFFLINE |   Reply With Quote


Reply

Rate This Thread
You have already rated this thread
« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Quick Reply
Your Reply:
Forum Jump

all posts © their respective authors. the tool page is not responsible for any of their thoughts, brilliant or otherwise.