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yea first time i did acid my mom called. somehow i managed to keep it cool but i was trying to keep a regular conversation while watching the flowers on the wallpaper bloom over and over and the spirals in the ceiling.
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I cant really think of anything else to reccomend... Turn your cell phone off? The last thing you want is to be on the phone with your parents or something while you're tripping, that happened to me one time and it was NOT cool.... Other than that just have a good time and enjoy the spiritual enlightenment.
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I agree with what your saying. I dont know if i agree with the tool thing but you have a point. But im sure everyone who has ever done or been around drugs has a horror story. I have horror stories. And quite frankly not one of us on here can guarantee that the kid is going to have a good trip. Believe me when i say that if i told the kid some of the things i have seen he would probabaly swear off any kind of drug caffiene included. I would still never tell someone not to do it. But on the other hand i wouldnt tell him that he should either. He asked for advice, were giving it to him.
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I agree with what your saying. I dont know if i agree with the tool thing but you have a point. But im sure everyone who has ever done or been around drugs has a horror story. I have horror stories. And quite frankly not one of us on here can guarantee that the kid is going to have a good trip. Believe me when i say that if i told the kid some of the things i have seen he would probabaly swear off any kind of drug caffiene included. I would still never tell someone not to do it. But on the other hand i wouldnt tell him that he should either. He asked for advice, were giving it to him.
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The only reason that I've been so harsh on your opinion is because I question how you came to develop that opinion. I feel like your opinion was mostly formed through the opinions of others and not at all on your own personal experiences. I feel like thats the best way to get the wrong perception about things. Thats why I made the comment about thinking for yourself. You can't ever have a truly informed opinion when you're only basing it on the opinions of others, and mostly people you don't know.
Regardless, its cool. I respect you not wanting to take drugs....but if you're interested in knowing more about them there is a lot more information out there that it seems you haven't been exposed to.
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The only reason that I've been so harsh on your opinion is because I question how you came to develop that opinion. I feel like your opinion was mostly formed through the opinions of others and not at all on your own personal experiences. I feel like thats the best way to get the wrong perception about things. Thats why I made the comment about thinking for yourself. You can't ever have a truly informed opinion when you're only basing it on the opinions of others, and mostly people you don't know.
Regardless, its cool. I respect you not wanting to take drugs....but if you're interested in knowing more about them there is a lot more information out there that it seems you haven't been exposed to.
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maybe its different for me because i did acid before mushrooms. its weird how everyone thinks shrooms are extreme. i always thought acid was much more extreme. acid is a very spiritual kind of quazi-religious thing. shrooms are for when im chillin with friends and want to have some good jokes or we're just feeling them as our drug choice. i mean ive done like shrooms at school and handled myself and i wouldnt even attempt that on acid. then again i guess its how much you take.
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Scientifically... Psilosybin < Mescaline < LSD < DMT < Ibogaine
Thats my opinion on intensities of the psychadellics...
Thats just becuase 1 gram of LSD will fuck up sooooo many people, where as 1 gram of mushrooms will only fuck up one person. If you take an equal amount of the chemicals.... Like, an extremely small amount of LSD, and an extremely large amount of Shrooms, they will be very very similar... I cant remember where i read it, but they both effect the same area of the brain, and they both fuck with serotonin receptors that guide or senses.
I have had insanely crazy mushrooms trips where i have died, out of body experiences, the world began to melt away similar to acid trips, i believed god had come to me... various things that are extremely common of an acid trip. I havent ever experienced them quite as vividly as you do on acid though. Acid is just so intense it doesnt allow you to even stay in your head at all, you cant prevent anything from melting away at all.
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maybe its different for me because i did acid before mushrooms. its weird how everyone thinks shrooms are extreme. i always thought acid was much more extreme. acid is a very spiritual kind of quazi-religious thing. shrooms are for when im chillin with friends and want to have some good jokes or we're just feeling them as our drug choice. i mean ive done like shrooms at school and handled myself and i wouldnt even attempt that on acid. then again i guess its how much you take.
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Scientifically... Psilosybin < Mescaline < LSD < DMT < Ibogaine
Thats my opinion on intensities of the psychadellics...
Thats just becuase 1 gram of LSD will fuck up sooooo many people, where as 1 gram of mushrooms will only fuck up one person. If you take an equal amount of the chemicals.... Like, an extremely small amount of LSD, and an extremely large amount of Shrooms, they will be very very similar... I cant remember where i read it, but they both effect the same area of the brain, and they both fuck with serotonin receptors that guide or senses.
I have had insanely crazy mushrooms trips where i have died, out of body experiences, the world began to melt away similar to acid trips, i believed god had come to me... various things that are extremely common of an acid trip. I havent ever experienced them quite as vividly as you do on acid though. Acid is just so intense it doesnt allow you to even stay in your head at all, you cant prevent anything from melting away at all. |
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05-08-2006, 03:20 PM
Man, I wish I had the last 15 minutes of my day back.
That bella chick annoys me even more than I thought.
The people that suggested that he visit erowid, etc were doing exactly what she claimed that no one was doing; informing him of the possible negative effects, etc.
That site, along with countless others will tell you everything you need to know.
That's the best and only advice anyone should give anyone when it comes to this subject.
We have the internet, use it.
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Re: Drug Advice.
Man, I wish I had the last 15 minutes of my day back.
That bella chick annoys me even more than I thought.
The people that suggested that he visit erowid, etc were doing exactly what she claimed that no one was doing; informing him of the possible negative effects, etc.
That site, along with countless others will tell you everything you need to know.
That's the best and only advice anyone should give anyone when it comes to this subject.
We have the internet, use it.
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my advice is to not listen to a damn thing you hear, as you are very succeptable to suggestion in this state. all i can tell you is, nothing you read or hear will ever be able to fully describe what happens. you will never be the same, but not in some weird tripped out way. you will be one of us :)
but yeah, they describe the trails and the jaw ache etc, but nothing can describe what you will go through, and no one will ever understand unless theyve been through it also.
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my advice is to not listen to a damn thing you hear, as you are very succeptable to suggestion in this state. all i can tell you is, nothing you read or hear will ever be able to fully describe what happens. you will never be the same, but not in some weird tripped out way. you will be one of us :)
but yeah, they describe the trails and the jaw ache etc, but nothing can describe what you will go through, and no one will ever understand unless theyve been through it also.
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05-08-2006, 04:35 PM
"See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favor. Go home tonight and take all of your records,tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs, man. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then take all of your records,tapes and CD's and burn them.
My final point about alchohol, about drugs, about Pornography...What business is it of your's what I do, read, buy, see or take into my body as long as I don't harm another human being whilst on this planet? And for those of you having a little moral dilemna on how to answer this, I'll answer for you. NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS Take that to the bank, cash it and take it on a vacation outta my fucking life. And stop bringing shotguns to UFO sightings, they might be here to pick me up and take me with 'em."
-Bill Hicks
Well, I think that says enough as it is. If you want advice. I'd say go chil with people while they do the drugs and see if it is something that interests you.
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"See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favor. Go home tonight and take all of your records,tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs, man. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then take all of your records,tapes and CD's and burn them.
My final point about alchohol, about drugs, about Pornography...What business is it of your's what I do, read, buy, see or take into my body as long as I don't harm another human being whilst on this planet? And for those of you having a little moral dilemna on how to answer this, I'll answer for you. NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS Take that to the bank, cash it and take it on a vacation outta my fucking life. And stop bringing shotguns to UFO sightings, they might be here to pick me up and take me with 'em."
-Bill Hicks
Well, I think that says enough as it is. If you want advice. I'd say go chil with people while they do the drugs and see if it is something that interests you.
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Man, I wish I had the last 15 minutes of my day back.
That bella chick annoys me even more than I thought.
The people that suggested that he visit erowid, etc were doing exactly what she claimed that no one was doing; informing him of the possible negative effects, etc.
That site, along with countless others will tell you everything you need to know.
That's the best and only advice anyone should give anyone when it comes to this subject.
We have the internet, use it.
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That's ok, you'd probably annoy me too.
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Man, I wish I had the last 15 minutes of my day back.
That bella chick annoys me even more than I thought.
The people that suggested that he visit erowid, etc were doing exactly what she claimed that no one was doing; informing him of the possible negative effects, etc.
That site, along with countless others will tell you everything you need to know.
That's the best and only advice anyone should give anyone when it comes to this subject.
We have the internet, use it.
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Can we calm this thread down? Everyones been very helpful, thank you very much for your input.
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Can we calm this thread down? Everyones been very helpful, thank you very much for your input.
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I agree, you can not describe the experince you get from any drug by reading it. Plus everyone has different body chemistry, and drugs effect everyone different.
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BUT.... its good to know what your getting yourself into... The first time i smoked weed i knew nothing, had a great time... The first time i tripped on mushrooms, it was too much for me and i freaked out and lost it (wrong setting, around too many people)
A big problem with drugs in this world is people not knowing what theyre getting themselves into, and how to deal with situations theyre getting into... Yeah, itll influence your trip knowing whats happened to other people, but even with everything ive read about other peoples trips, ive still had new and origional things that no else has ever said anything about happen to me.
Education will lead to safety, which is very important with some drugs.
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I agree, you can not describe the experince you get from any drug by reading it. Plus everyone has different body chemistry, and drugs effect everyone different.
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BUT.... its good to know what your getting yourself into... The first time i smoked weed i knew nothing, had a great time... The first time i tripped on mushrooms, it was too much for me and i freaked out and lost it (wrong setting, around too many people)
A big problem with drugs in this world is people not knowing what theyre getting themselves into, and how to deal with situations theyre getting into... Yeah, itll influence your trip knowing whats happened to other people, but even with everything ive read about other peoples trips, ive still had new and origional things that no else has ever said anything about happen to me.
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Can we calm this thread down? Everyones been very helpful, thank you very much for your input.
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Sorry for the arguing that has come about LoveBoat. It's not because you posted your question. You totally did the right thing. It's because the people that are answering you have different opinions on drugs. I've been thinking about this a lot and I actually feel pretty good about where I've netted out so I'd be ok with staying out of this thread. I tried to before, but then someone went and said something about me again in a derogatory manner so I felt compelled to respond. Maybe I should just stop looking on here LOL. I just want people to understand what I am saying and not twist my words into what they think I am saying or what they have heard before. As I told you, I think you will be fine without all of our input. Good luck. :)
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Can we calm this thread down? Everyones been very helpful, thank you very much for your input.
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Sorry for the arguing that has come about LoveBoat. It's not because you posted your question. You totally did the right thing. It's because the people that are answering you have different opinions on drugs. I've been thinking about this a lot and I actually feel pretty good about where I've netted out so I'd be ok with staying out of this thread. I tried to before, but then someone went and said something about me again in a derogatory manner so I felt compelled to respond. Maybe I should just stop looking on here LOL. I just want people to understand what I am saying and not twist my words into what they think I am saying or what they have heard before. As I told you, I think you will be fine without all of our input. Good luck. :) |
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Can we calm this thread down? Everyones been very helpful, thank you very much for your input.
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Hey, if you really want to try mushrooms and be safe and informed about them go to forums.mycotopia.net which is part of www.mycotopia.net and spend a lot of time reading. You can provide means to trip yourself without ever having to be involved in shady drug dealings and they'll answer all the questions and concerns you might have about shrooms. Also you might just find growing edible mushrooms to be really damn fun and interesting.
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Can we calm this thread down? Everyones been very helpful, thank you very much for your input.
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Hey, if you really want to try mushrooms and be safe and informed about them go to forums.mycotopia.net which is part of www.mycotopia.net and spend a lot of time reading. You can provide means to trip yourself without ever having to be involved in shady drug dealings and they'll answer all the questions and concerns you might have about shrooms. Also you might just find growing edible mushrooms to be really damn fun and interesting. |
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Man I tried this so many times for psilo mushies. I gave up a year ago. I just couldn't get a my mycelia growths to stay uncontaninated. I tried so many things and build all sorts of contraptions like clean boxes. I guess I'm just not much of blue thumb. But I'll try again eventually. Maybe I should just try shiitake or something else that's non-psilo first. I love me some shiitake, mmmmm.
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If you would like, I could help you possibly. Also the fine folks at mycotopia have a messageboard where they will help anyone with any problems. Its very easy to do, you don't even need a clean box or a pressure cooker... ;) Shiitake are a little more difficult than cubensis, as are most edibles strangely enough.
Pm me if you wanna chat about getting started on your way to success.. :)
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Man I tried this so many times for psilo mushies. I gave up a year ago. I just couldn't get a my mycelia growths to stay uncontaninated. I tried so many things and build all sorts of contraptions like clean boxes. I guess I'm just not much of blue thumb. But I'll try again eventually. Maybe I should just try shiitake or something else that's non-psilo first. I love me some shiitake, mmmmm.
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If you would like, I could help you possibly. Also the fine folks at mycotopia have a messageboard where they will help anyone with any problems. Its very easy to do, you don't even need a clean box or a pressure cooker... ;) Shiitake are a little more difficult than cubensis, as are most edibles strangely enough.
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The only difference with religions, etc. is that believing in them is not potentially harmful to this precious life and body we were given. For all any of us KNOW, this is all we get. We should treat it kindly, with respect, and embrace it with a clear mind and heart.
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Thats a load of bullshit. Religions do not create harmful situations? Religion itself transforms people into different beings. The intention of your arguments creates the assumption you wish to shun psychedelic drugs (which have been used for beneficial purposes). Yet it has been religion itself that has kept people blind, mediocre, and stupid (and completely ignorant of its own contradicting core values).
Do me a favor and read High Priest by Timothy Leary. Skip over to the Concord Prison Rehab Project. Psilocybin mushrooms (under the planning of those great doctors) created lower recidivism rates and till this day is the best method of lowering those rates.
I can give you more examples of psychedelics used for the bettering of mankind. If you'd like I'd be happy to post more.
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The only difference with religions, etc. is that believing in them is not potentially harmful to this precious life and body we were given. For all any of us KNOW, this is all we get. We should treat it kindly, with respect, and embrace it with a clear mind and heart.
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Thats a load of bullshit. Religions do not create harmful situations? Religion itself transforms people into different beings. The intention of your arguments creates the assumption you wish to shun psychedelic drugs (which have been used for beneficial purposes). Yet it has been religion itself that has kept people blind, mediocre, and stupid (and completely ignorant of its own contradicting core values).
Do me a favor and read High Priest by Timothy Leary. Skip over to the Concord Prison Rehab Project. Psilocybin mushrooms (under the planning of those great doctors) created lower recidivism rates and till this day is the best method of lowering those rates.
I can give you more examples of psychedelics used for the bettering of mankind. If you'd like I'd be happy to post more. |
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This is why you shouldn't do psychedelics with clueless people and clueless people shouldn't do psychedelics. Also acid seems to be much more damaging than shrooms for first time users and abusers. However, it is the person and only the person alone that can make themselves go insane through lack of discipline and playing with fire. I've never heard of #6 from shrooms. But acid induced my uncle's predisposed schizophrenia. I however, have done just about everything under pharmacopeia.
Make sure you know what you are getting and know who you are getting it from. I don't take chances with my head, its too precious. Personally I have chemist friends so I know what I'm getting down to the synthesis process. However, psilocybin has the perfect sythesis process because it was made by an organism that has been doing it for thousand/millions of years. I also don't buy street drugs or drugs at raves or parties from stangers.
Don't take drugs recreationally. It's fucking stupid. First of all, think why do you even want to take them? If it is to have fun and party then don't do it. Also, we are taking about psychedelics not candy drugs like heroine and coke. These things are nothing like psychedelics and much more prone to abuse by the undisciplined mind.
Now that you had shit scared the shit out you. If you take a psychedelic and know it is good don't be afraid. I repeat, don't be afraid. Loose all fear and doubt. But remember the choice is always yours. Take the red pill or blue pill.
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I completely agree with the above. I haven't done either in many years but have just placed an order for some decent salvia last night and have never tried it before. I did much research beforehand though and people have said to me though I cannot compare it at all with a shroom or acid trip but that's the only thing I can compare other than maybe Ketamine, although all that did do me was make me feel like a puppet and outside my body.
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This is why you shouldn't do psychedelics with clueless people and clueless people shouldn't do psychedelics. Also acid seems to be much more damaging than shrooms for first time users and abusers. However, it is the person and only the person alone that can make themselves go insane through lack of discipline and playing with fire. I've never heard of #6 from shrooms. But acid induced my uncle's predisposed schizophrenia. I however, have done just about everything under pharmacopeia.
Make sure you know what you are getting and know who you are getting it from. I don't take chances with my head, its too precious. Personally I have chemist friends so I know what I'm getting down to the synthesis process. However, psilocybin has the perfect sythesis process because it was made by an organism that has been doing it for thousand/millions of years. I also don't buy street drugs or drugs at raves or parties from stangers.
Don't take drugs recreationally. It's fucking stupid. First of all, think why do you even want to take them? If it is to have fun and party then don't do it. Also, we are taking about psychedelics not candy drugs like heroine and coke. These things are nothing like psychedelics and much more prone to abuse by the undisciplined mind.
Now that you had shit scared the shit out you. If you take a psychedelic and know it is good don't be afraid. I repeat, don't be afraid. Loose all fear and doubt. But remember the choice is always yours. Take the red pill or blue pill.
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I completely agree with the above. I haven't done either in many years but have just placed an order for some decent salvia last night and have never tried it before. I did much research beforehand though and people have said to me though I cannot compare it at all with a shroom or acid trip but that's the only thing I can compare other than maybe Ketamine, although all that did do me was make me feel like a puppet and outside my body.
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Am I the only one that finds it kind of sad and slightly disturbing that everyone is telling this person how to "learn about drugs and take them safely?" I don't agree with this. Not everyone can handle drugs, no matter how much they research them, no matter how many times they evaluate why they are doing them. Also, it is INCREDIBLY hard to know EXACTLY what is in the drug you are taking. If you get a bad "batch" of anything, it can have serious and permanant effects. Then theres the whole part about addiction, and how it can sometimes take over otherwise good people. Then the issue of responsibility. The things you shouldn't do while you are on drugs, like driving, being around your children, etc. You may think this is common sense, but there are people out there, many people, that do things like this. I just think the negatives outweigh the positive.
Also, I know I will get flamed for this, but why are people trying so hard to find a different "realm," a higher, better feeling, an escape, with the assistance of drugs? Is like really that awful? And if it is, are you not strong enough to find a way to "escape" from it naturally with meditation, yoga, jogging, drawing, listening to music, whatever? I just think resorting to drugs is a weak way "out."
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I'd just like to add, I've known of NO psychadelics that were "addictive" and any person WITHOUT a stable mind to begin with SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN THEM. And that any person that seemed to be "addictive" to them is a hopless cause to begin with. I've dabbled in many things in my life when was younger, LSD, Crystal, Coke, Shrooms, Special K, DXM as mentioned before...although I never have and never will do herion or crack. Coke although,is quite addictive I might add. I haven't done any of these things in many years and as long as you're not doing them nonstop, you'll be completely fine. It's always the people that have never even TRIED the experience that are downing it. As my last post stated, I haven't done anything in many years but longed for a one more chance to experience a "mind altering substance" per sey and I just placed an order for Salvia. I first heard about it's connection with the song Rosetta Stoned and had never heard of it before but I did much research before I even contemplated it. I plan on turning off lights, lighting candles and incense and playing something nice and tranquil for my first experience with it...although the thought has crossed my mind to play Vigenti Tres as interesting as it sounds, I can imagine how bad of an idea that would be. Anyways......
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Am I the only one that finds it kind of sad and slightly disturbing that everyone is telling this person how to "learn about drugs and take them safely?" I don't agree with this. Not everyone can handle drugs, no matter how much they research them, no matter how many times they evaluate why they are doing them. Also, it is INCREDIBLY hard to know EXACTLY what is in the drug you are taking. If you get a bad "batch" of anything, it can have serious and permanant effects. Then theres the whole part about addiction, and how it can sometimes take over otherwise good people. Then the issue of responsibility. The things you shouldn't do while you are on drugs, like driving, being around your children, etc. You may think this is common sense, but there are people out there, many people, that do things like this. I just think the negatives outweigh the positive.
Also, I know I will get flamed for this, but why are people trying so hard to find a different "realm," a higher, better feeling, an escape, with the assistance of drugs? Is like really that awful? And if it is, are you not strong enough to find a way to "escape" from it naturally with meditation, yoga, jogging, drawing, listening to music, whatever? I just think resorting to drugs is a weak way "out."
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I'd just like to add, I've known of NO psychadelics that were "addictive" and any person WITHOUT a stable mind to begin with SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN THEM. And that any person that seemed to be "addictive" to them is a hopless cause to begin with. I've dabbled in many things in my life when was younger, LSD, Crystal, Coke, Shrooms, Special K, DXM as mentioned before...although I never have and never will do herion or crack. Coke although,is quite addictive I might add. I haven't done any of these things in many years and as long as you're not doing them nonstop, you'll be completely fine. It's always the people that have never even TRIED the experience that are downing it. As my last post stated, I haven't done anything in many years but longed for a one more chance to experience a "mind altering substance" per sey and I just placed an order for Salvia. I first heard about it's connection with the song Rosetta Stoned and had never heard of it before but I did much research before I even contemplated it. I plan on turning off lights, lighting candles and incense and playing something nice and tranquil for my first experience with it...although the thought has crossed my mind to play Vigenti Tres as interesting as it sounds, I can imagine how bad of an idea that would be. Anyways......
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my advice would be...don't take drugs
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Agreed, a person with a mind as closed and pessimistic as hers should NOT do drugs. She would scare herself half to death dealing wih her insecurities and demons....I don't know about you people but I can see right through it....she's scared of having to deal with her inner self, veru insecure she seems....no offense homegirl, just laying it out as I see it
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my advice would be...don't take drugs
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Agreed, a person with a mind as closed and pessimistic as hers should NOT do drugs. She would scare herself half to death dealing wih her insecurities and demons....I don't know about you people but I can see right through it....she's scared of having to deal with her inner self, veru insecure she seems....no offense homegirl, just laying it out as I see it
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I agree to a certain extent, but you ultimately cannot control to what degree someone will behave responsibly - only provide the information available. It's the same way with legal things like alcohol. I don't know if this is the best analogy, but millions of people do not drink "responsibly". All the DUIs, physical/sexual assaults, etc that come as a result of weak persons or stupid people (let's call them retards) drinking to excess. Most people would argue there's nothing wrong with drinking, getting wasted, whatever. But when retards start doing stupid shit while drunk, while on ANYTHING, then the substance gets blamed as the problem and not the person themselves/their characteristics
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I ABSOLUTELY agree with this. That is so right, it's not the drug, it's the person and their personality. If you're fucked up in the head, DON'T take psychadelics. If you're not responsible to being with and how you approach it..DON'T take them. Just like the saying goes "Guns don't kill people, STUPID FUCKING MORONS with guns kill people"
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I agree to a certain extent, but you ultimately cannot control to what degree someone will behave responsibly - only provide the information available. It's the same way with legal things like alcohol. I don't know if this is the best analogy, but millions of people do not drink "responsibly". All the DUIs, physical/sexual assaults, etc that come as a result of weak persons or stupid people (let's call them retards) drinking to excess. Most people would argue there's nothing wrong with drinking, getting wasted, whatever. But when retards start doing stupid shit while drunk, while on ANYTHING, then the substance gets blamed as the problem and not the person themselves/their characteristics
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I ABSOLUTELY agree with this. That is so right, it's not the drug, it's the person and their personality. If you're fucked up in the head, DON'T take psychadelics. If you're not responsible to being with and how you approach it..DON'T take them. Just like the saying goes "Guns don't kill people, STUPID FUCKING MORONS with guns kill people"
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Yea, I agree I unwittingly did this some years ago when I was at work and sick. I was nursing a cold on a empty stomach, big fucking mistake. aside from the disassociative effects there was also a nasty come down of depression, confusion and dry heaving. DXM is more of a drug to do, when nothing else is available.
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Then you're an idiot for doing that while AT work for one, secondly..being sick doesn't help either. You give them a bad name.
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Yea, I agree I unwittingly did this some years ago when I was at work and sick. I was nursing a cold on a empty stomach, big fucking mistake. aside from the disassociative effects there was also a nasty come down of depression, confusion and dry heaving. DXM is more of a drug to do, when nothing else is available.
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Then you're an idiot for doing that while AT work for one, secondly..being sick doesn't help either. You give them a bad name.
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First, thank you for calling some of my friends losers, that's nice of you. You DO NOT know me, and you DO NOT know my friends, so please, do not be a jerk. I am not attacking you, yet somehow you are taking this so personally. Why are you so defensive? I was merely doing two things, one, informing this kid of the negatives I have seen as a result of drugs and two, sharing my view on what drugs mean to me. You don't have to agree with me, I'm ok with that. But please do not insult me, or my intelligence. I am not going to sit here and try to prove myself to you by telling you my degree, my gpa, my career, my age, my social status or any of the other things to defend what your post was implying about me. What I am going to do for you, and everyone else that may be reading my posts, is try to explain myself differently so that I feel I am being accurately portrayed...
FIRST, I am not saying that psychedelic drugs are BAD nor GOOD. I DO think psychedelics have negative side effects for MANY people in this world, because MANY people cannot handle them. I do not see how anyone can deny this. If you do not want to hear it from me, Maynard has said it and so have Alex Grey and several others whose words may hold some more value than some girl on the tool site.
I also understand that there are many artists that I admire throughout history and MOST of these artists did psychedelic drugs that inspired the work that I love so much. MOST of the music I love is done by artists that have been inspired by psychedelics. I also know that there are normal people with careers and families that do psychedelics. I am NOT calling any of these people losers, irresponsible or unintelligent.
What I am saying is all of us are HUMAN, no matter how talented, how many kids you have, what your job is.... We are all people that live life and sometimes life is hard, sometimes shit happens to us, sometimes we get depressed, sometimes we get angry, sometimes we get lost and cant find our way, etc. As a result of these things, we look for a crutch, something to get us through... and drugs are one of these things. Again, I don't think you can deny that.
What is sad to me is that people feel they even NEED to have a crutch in the first place. It makes me sad that people cannot look within themselves for the guidance and answers they need, naturally, without the assistance of drugs or anything else. It makes me sad that I question if all the art and music I love would not have been made without drugs. It makes me sad think that THIS reality is so uninspiring to some people that they feel they have to use psychedelics for answers and inspiration. I could go on in this manner about many things, but I think I've made my point.
I know that this all doesn't matter. If the end result is something positive, like an amazing piece of art or a great song... why should I care how they got there? In many ways I don't, otherwise I wouldn't love the artists and musicians that I love like The Beatles, Doors, Pink Floyd, NIN, Tool, Salvador Dali, Most artists in the Dada movement, Alex Grey, Walt fuckin Disney... and on. Do I think these people are amazing? YES. Does the fact that they did psychedelics to create their work make them any less talented? NO. BUT as I mention above, it makes me sad to think that this is the way the world is. Maybe it doesn't make any sense... but it's how I feel. I choose to try to deal with life naturally. Does that make me any better than anyone else? NO. But I have a right to share my opinion with others and perhaps make them see a different side when they ask about using drugs.
I don't think that is offensive or wrong.
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Mushrooms and LSD are both physically and mentally harmless assuming the user is not a complete moron. There is no concern for purity as far as LSD and mushrooms are concerned. LSD most often comes in blotter form. A profound acid trip would require no more than 400 MICROGRAMS of the substance, which could easily be soaked into two or three blotter tabs, which are .25 inches x .25 inches. There is simply not enough space on a few blotter tabs for any other chemical known to man to effect you. Not rat poison, not drain cleaner, not anything. Anything you've ever heard about people selling other chemicals as acid, in terms of blotter, is a complete fabrication, and if they WERE doing it, there would be no point to it whatsoever. It'd be a waste of perfectly good poisonous chemicals. If you're getting blotter, it's either LSD or blank paper. Getting ripped off is the only concern.
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First, thank you for calling some of my friends losers, that's nice of you. You DO NOT know me, and you DO NOT know my friends, so please, do not be a jerk. I am not attacking you, yet somehow you are taking this so personally. Why are you so defensive? I was merely doing two things, one, informing this kid of the negatives I have seen as a result of drugs and two, sharing my view on what drugs mean to me. You don't have to agree with me, I'm ok with that. But please do not insult me, or my intelligence. I am not going to sit here and try to prove myself to you by telling you my degree, my gpa, my career, my age, my social status or any of the other things to defend what your post was implying about me. What I am going to do for you, and everyone else that may be reading my posts, is try to explain myself differently so that I feel I am being accurately portrayed...
FIRST, I am not saying that psychedelic drugs are BAD nor GOOD. I DO think psychedelics have negative side effects for MANY people in this world, because MANY people cannot handle them. I do not see how anyone can deny this. If you do not want to hear it from me, Maynard has said it and so have Alex Grey and several others whose words may hold some more value than some girl on the tool site.
I also understand that there are many artists that I admire throughout history and MOST of these artists did psychedelic drugs that inspired the work that I love so much. MOST of the music I love is done by artists that have been inspired by psychedelics. I also know that there are normal people with careers and families that do psychedelics. I am NOT calling any of these people losers, irresponsible or unintelligent.
What I am saying is all of us are HUMAN, no matter how talented, how many kids you have, what your job is.... We are all people that live life and sometimes life is hard, sometimes shit happens to us, sometimes we get depressed, sometimes we get angry, sometimes we get lost and cant find our way, etc. As a result of these things, we look for a crutch, something to get us through... and drugs are one of these things. Again, I don't think you can deny that.
What is sad to me is that people feel they even NEED to have a crutch in the first place. It makes me sad that people cannot look within themselves for the guidance and answers they need, naturally, without the assistance of drugs or anything else. It makes me sad that I question if all the art and music I love would not have been made without drugs. It makes me sad think that THIS reality is so uninspiring to some people that they feel they have to use psychedelics for answers and inspiration. I could go on in this manner about many things, but I think I've made my point.
I know that this all doesn't matter. If the end result is something positive, like an amazing piece of art or a great song... why should I care how they got there? In many ways I don't, otherwise I wouldn't love the artists and musicians that I love like The Beatles, Doors, Pink Floyd, NIN, Tool, Salvador Dali, Most artists in the Dada movement, Alex Grey, Walt fuckin Disney... and on. Do I think these people are amazing? YES. Does the fact that they did psychedelics to create their work make them any less talented? NO. BUT as I mention above, it makes me sad to think that this is the way the world is. Maybe it doesn't make any sense... but it's how I feel. I choose to try to deal with life naturally. Does that make me any better than anyone else? NO. But I have a right to share my opinion with others and perhaps make them see a different side when they ask about using drugs.
I don't think that is offensive or wrong.
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Mushrooms and LSD are both physically and mentally harmless assuming the user is not a complete moron. There is no concern for purity as far as LSD and mushrooms are concerned. LSD most often comes in blotter form. A profound acid trip would require no more than 400 MICROGRAMS of the substance, which could easily be soaked into two or three blotter tabs, which are .25 inches x .25 inches. There is simply not enough space on a few blotter tabs for any other chemical known to man to effect you. Not rat poison, not drain cleaner, not anything. Anything you've ever heard about people selling other chemicals as acid, in terms of blotter, is a complete fabrication, and if they WERE doing it, there would be no point to it whatsoever. It'd be a waste of perfectly good poisonous chemicals. If you're getting blotter, it's either LSD or blank paper. Getting ripped off is the only concern. |
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I think people who appreciate psychedelics are sensitive about being considered "druggies." I know I am. I don't drink or smoke -- when I want to get high, I go for a run -- but I look at psychedelic experiences as challenging and rewarding things. Because of that, a lot of people would probably think of me as a "druggie" and mentally demote me to second-class citizen.
So, it's hard for me to take criticism of psychedelics as level-headedly as I should, because I take it personally...
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I think people who appreciate psychedelics are sensitive about being considered "druggies." I know I am. I don't drink or smoke -- when I want to get high, I go for a run -- but I look at psychedelic experiences as challenging and rewarding things. Because of that, a lot of people would probably think of me as a "druggie" and mentally demote me to second-class citizen.
So, it's hard for me to take criticism of psychedelics as level-headedly as I should, because I take it personally...
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I know what you mean. Even other people who may smoke weed would call you a druggie, because for some reason they might be ashamed of doing it themselves.
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I know what you mean. Even other people who may smoke weed would call you a druggie, because for some reason they might be ashamed of doing it themselves.
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I'm trying to remember the first time I did mushrooms. Can't really. I remember the first time I did LSD, but that's a little more intense. Just like any other drug, you'll find out for yourself. I guess you will see what you shall see. Don't worry. You won't go crazy or OD or anything silly. It's really quite harmless in a relaxed setting. (your living room with a few friends and a few beers, and a good collection of music is a good place to start.)
Its a relatively harmless drug, and as long as you don't ingest too much, you'll have a lot of fun. Music sounds really good on mushrooms. Just like alcohol and weed. A bit better, IMHO, but that's just me. You might experience some sensory ....deviation. But nothing a sane, well adjusted teenager can't handle. Have fun.
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I'm trying to remember the first time I did mushrooms. Can't really. I remember the first time I did LSD, but that's a little more intense. Just like any other drug, you'll find out for yourself. I guess you will see what you shall see. Don't worry. You won't go crazy or OD or anything silly. It's really quite harmless in a relaxed setting. (your living room with a few friends and a few beers, and a good collection of music is a good place to start.)
Its a relatively harmless drug, and as long as you don't ingest too much, you'll have a lot of fun. Music sounds really good on mushrooms. Just like alcohol and weed. A bit better, IMHO, but that's just me. You might experience some sensory ....deviation. But nothing a sane, well adjusted teenager can't handle. Have fun.
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Well, I tried Salvia (1gram of enhanced leaves) today. I was kind of disappointed. I started by taking one large hit and it hit me good for about 2-4minutes and so I took another large hit and felt again like I was "kinda" trippin. I ended up taking like 2 more hits within 15min thinking ok maybe I'm supposed to smoke more of this to "really" feel it and it was just so so. I guess I'm what they call a salvia hardhead maybe. But for 1gram for $70 it just ain't worth it. It was cool for like what seemed 5min and then it just felt like I was coming down from a shroom trip. I had zero visuals unless I closed my eyes and even then they weren't very vivid. I definatelty didn't have any spiritual experience nor was there any imaginary companion. For the most part even throughout the peak I was completely aware of reality which according to all the stories, you completely lose sense of this world and open your eyes in a new one. Oh well, that's my story.
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Well, I tried Salvia (1gram of enhanced leaves) today. I was kind of disappointed. I started by taking one large hit and it hit me good for about 2-4minutes and so I took another large hit and felt again like I was "kinda" trippin. I ended up taking like 2 more hits within 15min thinking ok maybe I'm supposed to smoke more of this to "really" feel it and it was just so so. I guess I'm what they call a salvia hardhead maybe. But for 1gram for $70 it just ain't worth it. It was cool for like what seemed 5min and then it just felt like I was coming down from a shroom trip. I had zero visuals unless I closed my eyes and even then they weren't very vivid. I definatelty didn't have any spiritual experience nor was there any imaginary companion. For the most part even throughout the peak I was completely aware of reality which according to all the stories, you completely lose sense of this world and open your eyes in a new one. Oh well, that's my story.
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I just wanted to say that I agree with you a hundred percent here. I've never taken any hallucinogens. The only thing that I've taken has been MDMA, which has allowed me to develop in many ways and help me to come to terms with particular things. I see the amazing potential that psychoactives would have on a human (friends have taken it and shared experiences) and admire that you are promoting truth behind it (among with others on the board.) There isn't much you can do for those who continually turn a blind eye to truth and an opened ear to DARE, unfortunately.
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THEPROSPERONE:
I just wanted to say that I agree with you a hundred percent here. I've never taken any hallucinogens. The only thing that I've taken has been MDMA, which has allowed me to develop in many ways and help me to come to terms with particular things. I see the amazing potential that psychoactives would have on a human (friends have taken it and shared experiences) and admire that you are promoting truth behind it (among with others on the board.) There isn't much you can do for those who continually turn a blind eye to truth and an opened ear to DARE, unfortunately.
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Oh Captain, My Captain:
Please do tell us if you do take the plunge and what your impressions were . . .
My only advice is that you need to remember the following:
1. Relax and be confident. Whatever happens- however bad it may seem- things are going to be OK. The majority of freakouts are self-induced by people who lose sight of the fact that it will all be O.K.
2. Nobody knows you're tripping unless you tell them. This works both ways: If you need help, then you need to tell somebody that you are tripping or else they won't know how to begin. If you start thinking paranoid thoughts because it has occurred to you that "everybody knows your tripping"; relax and be confident, they don't, and you are fine.
3. If you start to feel fear, that's fine- that's even good. Psychedlia is about exploration and epiphany, and sometimes these things require a little adversity. Whatever you do, don't surrender to fear; just remember to relax and be confident. Surrendering to fear, or even contemplating its validity, will only result in wasted time and energy until you finally talk yourself down.
4. Before ingesting psilocybin avoid dairy products and allow some time to pass between eating your last meal and eating your mushrooms. Lactose acts to counteract psilocybin, so if your last meal was a double-cheese pizza followed by an ice cream sundae, your trip will not achieve its full, potential intensity. Many mushroom purists advocate fasting for a day prior to tripping. This lowers your body's defenses as intensifies the results. I wouldn't reccomend this for a first trip.
5. This works both ways. If your confidence fails and you cannot relax, drink a couple of tall glasses of milk and munch on a rare roast beef sandwich on heavy bread with all the veggies you like (if you are a vegetarian, substitute tofu or seitan for the meat- protein is important to this process). This will not result in instant sobriety, but it will greatly increase your body's ability to fight the effects. You wll not shed all aspects of your altered state until all of the toxin has left your system; so you will probably see trails and their might be a flanger pedal on the conversations you hear, but your mental state will return to normal.
6. Psychedelic drugs deplete your body of vitamins, so make sure you are ready to replenish your body's supply for the day after. Many people I know take vitamins directly before and after they trip so as to aid their transition into normalcy and avoid the typical burnout period that follows a trip.
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Oh Captain, My Captain:
Please do tell us if you do take the plunge and what your impressions were . . .
My only advice is that you need to remember the following:
1. Relax and be confident. Whatever happens- however bad it may seem- things are going to be OK. The majority of freakouts are self-induced by people who lose sight of the fact that it will all be O.K.
2. Nobody knows you're tripping unless you tell them. This works both ways: If you need help, then you need to tell somebody that you are tripping or else they won't know how to begin. If you start thinking paranoid thoughts because it has occurred to you that "everybody knows your tripping"; relax and be confident, they don't, and you are fine.
3. If you start to feel fear, that's fine- that's even good. Psychedlia is about exploration and epiphany, and sometimes these things require a little adversity. Whatever you do, don't surrender to fear; just remember to relax and be confident. Surrendering to fear, or even contemplating its validity, will only result in wasted time and energy until you finally talk yourself down.
4. Before ingesting psilocybin avoid dairy products and allow some time to pass between eating your last meal and eating your mushrooms. Lactose acts to counteract psilocybin, so if your last meal was a double-cheese pizza followed by an ice cream sundae, your trip will not achieve its full, potential intensity. Many mushroom purists advocate fasting for a day prior to tripping. This lowers your body's defenses as intensifies the results. I wouldn't reccomend this for a first trip.
5. This works both ways. If your confidence fails and you cannot relax, drink a couple of tall glasses of milk and munch on a rare roast beef sandwich on heavy bread with all the veggies you like (if you are a vegetarian, substitute tofu or seitan for the meat- protein is important to this process). This will not result in instant sobriety, but it will greatly increase your body's ability to fight the effects. You wll not shed all aspects of your altered state until all of the toxin has left your system; so you will probably see trails and their might be a flanger pedal on the conversations you hear, but your mental state will return to normal.
6. Psychedelic drugs deplete your body of vitamins, so make sure you are ready to replenish your body's supply for the day after. Many people I know take vitamins directly before and after they trip so as to aid their transition into normalcy and avoid the typical burnout period that follows a trip.
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05-27-2006, 07:40 PM
Why is this here when it has nothing to do with the song? Shouldn't it be in the medicated thread.
While we're on the subject, anyone that live in the Metro Detroit area go to DEMF? It was garbage.
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Why is this here when it has nothing to do with the song? Shouldn't it be in the medicated thread.
While we're on the subject, anyone that live in the Metro Detroit area go to DEMF? It was garbage.
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05-28-2006, 06:17 AM
Why are you so hung up on where a thread is?
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Why are you so hung up on where a thread is?
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05-29-2006, 04:08 AM
wicked, a discussion on shrooms hehehe. well in my experience, ive taken shrooms 4 times, the first 3 were awesome, just laughed & had fun, but the final time i totally tripped for 3 days & couldnt get enough action in my brain no matter what i was doing, totally intense, felt like my brain was rapidly frying itself. the dose was excessive however. 90-100 blue meanies, not your regular gold tops. all brewed into 3 cups of tea, & i downed all 3. not an experience i wish to repeat, took 6 months to feel like i was sane again. However, in small doses, sure good times. Just don't get greedy or give into peer pressure k.
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wicked, a discussion on shrooms hehehe. well in my experience, ive taken shrooms 4 times, the first 3 were awesome, just laughed & had fun, but the final time i totally tripped for 3 days & couldnt get enough action in my brain no matter what i was doing, totally intense, felt like my brain was rapidly frying itself. the dose was excessive however. 90-100 blue meanies, not your regular gold tops. all brewed into 3 cups of tea, & i downed all 3. not an experience i wish to repeat, took 6 months to feel like i was sane again. However, in small doses, sure good times. Just don't get greedy or give into peer pressure k.
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05-29-2006, 05:51 PM
ok i saw in a movie.. idk if this is true but a guy lite what looked like an insent and got a simalar effect as a shroom or acid.. what is it.. where can u get them, and how safe are they...
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ok i saw in a movie.. idk if this is true but a guy lite what looked like an insent and got a simalar effect as a shroom or acid.. what is it.. where can u get them, and how safe are they...
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Opium. Riding the dragon. Getting wet.....no wait, that's PCP.
But yeah...You were probably watching From Hell or something. You get it from drug dealers. Just don't just the big H!
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Opium. Riding the dragon. Getting wet.....no wait, that's PCP.
But yeah...You were probably watching From Hell or something. You get it from drug dealers. Just don't just the big H!
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can u get it in an insent?
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can u get it in an insent?
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2. Nobody knows you're tripping unless you tell them. This works both ways: If you need help, then you need to tell somebody that you are tripping or else they won't know how to begin. If you start thinking paranoid thoughts because it has occurred to you that "everybody knows your tripping"; relax and be confident, they don't, and you are fine.
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I would disagree with this statement. If you're tripping balls and staring at a fuckin puddle going WHOA, FUCKING AWESOME DUDE, IT RIPPLES, I'M IN THE VOID or some crazy shit, I'm sure somebody's gonna catch on. When you're peaking, it's not easy to concentrate on "acting normal" while around others whom you do NOT want to know that you are tripping.
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2. Nobody knows you're tripping unless you tell them. This works both ways: If you need help, then you need to tell somebody that you are tripping or else they won't know how to begin. If you start thinking paranoid thoughts because it has occurred to you that "everybody knows your tripping"; relax and be confident, they don't, and you are fine.
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I would disagree with this statement. If you're tripping balls and staring at a fuckin puddle going WHOA, FUCKING AWESOME DUDE, IT RIPPLES, I'M IN THE VOID or some crazy shit, I'm sure somebody's gonna catch on. When you're peaking, it's not easy to concentrate on "acting normal" while around others whom you do NOT want to know that you are tripping.
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sounds like an ABC afterschool special...drugs r bad mmmkayyy...
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Quoting the band No Cash
"Smoke crack and burn churches."
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sounds like an ABC afterschool special...drugs r bad mmmkayyy...
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Quoting the band No Cash
"Smoke crack and burn churches."
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Also, I know I will get flamed for this, but why are people trying so hard to find a different "realm," a higher, better feeling, an escape, with the assistance of drugs? Is like really that awful? And if it is, are you not strong enough to find a way to "escape" from it naturally with meditation, yoga, jogging, drawing, listening to music, whatever? I just think resorting to drugs is a weak way "out."
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Drugs are stimulating mental chemicals which cause an illusion. A "false" state of enlightenment.
You should try to reach enlightenment without them instead of just tripping.
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Also, I know I will get flamed for this, but why are people trying so hard to find a different "realm," a higher, better feeling, an escape, with the assistance of drugs? Is like really that awful? And if it is, are you not strong enough to find a way to "escape" from it naturally with meditation, yoga, jogging, drawing, listening to music, whatever? I just think resorting to drugs is a weak way "out."
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Drugs are stimulating mental chemicals which cause an illusion. A "false" state of enlightenment.
You should try to reach enlightenment without them instead of just tripping.
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i guess there is no such thing as i am talking about
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i guess there is no such thing as i am talking about
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I would disagree with this statement. If you're tripping balls and staring at a fuckin puddle going WHOA, FUCKING AWESOME DUDE, IT RIPPLES, I'M IN THE VOID or some crazy shit, I'm sure somebody's gonna catch on. When you're peaking, it's not easy to concentrate on "acting normal" while around others whom you do NOT want to know that you are tripping.
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I don't know, in my tripping experience (Dead lots, Phish lots, schools, hospitals, airplanes, busses, parks, urban centers, police stations, "Say No To Drugs" rallies . . .) people might think that you are acting strange, but they don't make the leap without some nudging. I guess if you walk up to a crowd of people and start saying such things as you suggest earlier, somebody would connect the dots. However, in my opinion, if you lack the common sense to keep your mouth shut in situations like that, maybe you lack the constitution for psychedelic drugs (no offense intended- they aren't for everybody).
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I would disagree with this statement. If you're tripping balls and staring at a fuckin puddle going WHOA, FUCKING AWESOME DUDE, IT RIPPLES, I'M IN THE VOID or some crazy shit, I'm sure somebody's gonna catch on. When you're peaking, it's not easy to concentrate on "acting normal" while around others whom you do NOT want to know that you are tripping.
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I don't know, in my tripping experience (Dead lots, Phish lots, schools, hospitals, airplanes, busses, parks, urban centers, police stations, "Say No To Drugs" rallies . . .) people might think that you are acting strange, but they don't make the leap without some nudging. I guess if you walk up to a crowd of people and start saying such things as you suggest earlier, somebody would connect the dots. However, in my opinion, if you lack the common sense to keep your mouth shut in situations like that, maybe you lack the constitution for psychedelic drugs (no offense intended- they aren't for everybody).
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i guess there is no such thing as i am talking about
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The only thing that i know like that is hash. But hash wouldnt put you anywhere near an LSD trip.
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