You say,
I should do it differently.
I don't,
Necessarily agree.
Stand up!
Sit down!
Be nice!
Did ya hear me ask for your advice?

Don't bother,
Trying to tell me your beliefs.
your point of view looks pretty screwed to me
Do this!
Do that!
On track!
Do me a favor and don't talk back!

Round and round,
And the conversation always ends where it began
Round and round,
And I need a vacation.
I've got a headache from you

Shut up!
Don't want to hear your voice.
Shut up!
I'm sick of all the noise.
There's nothing you can say to me,
that means a damn thing to me
So shut up!

Blah Blah, Blah Blah, Blah Blah, Blah Blah.

That's what,
It sounds like you said to me.
You nag and you brag and I gag!
There's so much beauty in what we have.

You must,
Have better things that you can do.
Or does your life revolve around me too?
What you want,
What I need.
Oh please!
I think you get off,
hearing yourself speak.

Round and round,
And the conversation always ends where it began.
Round and round,
And I need a vacation.
I've got a headache from you

Shut up!
Don't want to hear your voice.
Shut up!
I'm sick of all the noise.
There's nothing you can say to me,
that means a damn thing to me
Shut up!

Don't want to be polite.
It's messed up,
How you always think you're right.
There's nothing you can say,
That's gonna change the way I am.
So shut up!

Round and round,
And the conversation always ends where it began.
Round and round,
And I need a vacation.
I've got a headache from you

Shut up!
Don't want to hear your voice.
Shut up!
I'm sick of all the noise.
There's nothing you can say to me,
that means a damn thing to me
Shut up!

Don't want to be polite.
It's messed up,
How you always think you're right.
There's nothing you can say,
That's gonna change the way I am.
So shut up!

Shut up
Just shut up
Shut up [3x]
Shut it up, just shut up
Shut up
Just shut up
Shut up [3x]
Shut it up, just shut up

[Chorus]
We try to take it slow
But we're still losin control
And we try to make it work
But it still isn't the worst
And I'm craaazzzy
For tryin to be your laaadddy
I think I'm goin crazy

Girl, me and you were just fine (you know)
We wine and dine
Did them things that couples do when in love (you know)
Walks on the beach and stuff (you know)
Things that lovers say and do
I love you boo, I love you too
I miss you a lot, I miss you even more
That's why I flew you out
When we was on tour
But then something got out of hand
You start yellin when I'm with my friends
Even though I had legitimate reasons (bull shit)
You know I have to make them evidence (bull shit)
How could you trust our private lives girl
That's why you don't believe my lies
And quit this lecture

[Chorus]

Why does he know she gotta move so fast
Love is progress if you could make it last
Why is it that you just lose control
Every time you agree on takin it slow
So why does it got to be so damn tough
Cuz fools in lust could never get enough of love
Showin him the love that you be givin
Changing up your livin
For a lovin transistion
Girl lip so much she tryin to get you to listen
Few mad at each other has become our tradition
You yell, I yell, everybody yells
Got neighbors across the street sayin
“Who the hell?!?”
Who the hell?
What the hell's going down?
Too much of the bickering
Kill it with the sound and

[Chorus]

Girl our love is dyin
Why can't you stop tryin
I never been a quitah
But I do deserve betta
Believe me I will do bad
Let's forget the past
And let's start this new plan
Why? Cuz it's the same old routine
And then next week I hear them scream
Girl I know you're tired of the things they say
You're damn right
Cuz I heard them lame dame excuses just yesterday
That was a different thing
No it ain't
That was a different thing
No it ain't
That was a different thing
It was the same damn thing
Same ass excuses
Boy you're usless
Whhoooaaaa

[Chorus]

Stop the talking baby
Or I start walking baby
Is that all there is [repeat]

Shut the fuck up she said, I'm going fucking deaf
You're always too loud, everything's too loud
Now that all my friends left, this place is fucking dead
I wanna move out, when can we move out? This shit has got to stop

I'll run away

Get the fuck up she said
your life is meaningless
it's going nowhere, you're going nowhere
you're just a fuck up she said, I'll live alone instead
she said you don't care, I know I don't care

I'll never ask permission from you,
fuck off I'm not listening to you
I'm not coming home, I'm never going to come back home

I got too fucked up again, and passed out on the plane
Try to forget you, I can't forget you
No sleep on this flight, I'll think about the nights
we had to get through, how did we get through?

I'll never ask permission from you,
fuck off I'm not listening to you
I'm not coming home, I'm never going to come back home

I'll run away
I think it's time that I should leave
I think it's time that I should leave
I think it's time that I should leave
I think it's time that I should leave

I'll never ask permission from you,
fuck off i'm not listening to you
I'm not coming home, I'm never going to come back home

I'll run away
I think it's time for me to leave
(I'll run away)
I think it's time for me to leave
(I'll run away)
I think it's time for me to leave
(I'll run away)
I think it's time for me to leave

Completely agree. I heard a great deal of Tool's other songs before I bought any of their CDs and became a real fan. Opiate, Prison Sex, Aenema, Schism... all songs that were singles or were otherwise played on the radio or by my friends. I bought Lateralus first, for whatever reason. I then progressed backwards, and each one hit me with a little bit less intensity than Lateralus. Perhaps that was because I already had preconceptions of what Tool SHOULD be like, and that could also be partially due to the fact that I am by nature a more optomistic person. Because of this, it's logical that Lateralus would suit me a bit more. However, Lateralus and Aenema both really clicked with me, and I still listen to both from beginning to end on a regular basis. Undertow and Opiate clicked as well, but have made their way out of my "favorite CDs" holder.

This CD, however, did not click. The more I listen to it, the more I find phrases that I do like, and the more I appreciate a few songs (Right In Two, Jambi), but it also emphasizes the reasons why I don't like the others as much. I like this CD, but it is on the other side of the peak, about equal with Undertow. Aenema and Lateralus share the plateau, with Lateralus being just a bit higher.

...for whatever that's worth.

I am officially (and proudly) waiting until May 2nd to buy the album. However, being in a Tool cover band myself and being a musician I would like to add a few cents. The others in my band have a leaked copy and have been listening to it and are quite disappointed. Although I haven't heard much of it, I have a few reasons to think of it as a hoax.

First, the mix/sound quality is not the typically Tool quality. Lateralus was the epitome of near perfection in engineering. And no, it's not because of the MP3 compression that I say this. What I've heard practically sounds like it was recorded in mono! There has to have been some reduction in quality before it was "leaked."

Second, the reviews from the original listening parties seemed to indicate no dissapointment. I would be curious to hear if anyone attending one of these has heard the leaked version and can confirm whether it matches what they heard (unless the listening parties were also fabricated).

Third, to address the viewpoint of some--as in, why would they spend money and time recording a decoy. Anyone who has recorded music knows that you could EASILY and cheaply record anything--and the filler material would be very easy indeed. I also buy into the theory of pre-mixed demos where they may have hit the record button and let some ideas flow. Not even an argument IMHO. I've made many good quality recordings on no budget and with very little time. They have been working on this for five years after all--you don't think there might be outtakes in the tapes?

Next, I would think if they did release a leaked album just to throw off people who download the album before waiting to buy it, then they have succeeded and my hats off to them for defeating the over-zealous bunch of downloaders out there. What if you made a high-quality product for a living and your sales were not what they should be because people could download it for free? Would Porsche make cars if anyone could just download a 911 Turbo before they even get one on the lot?

Lastly, I agree with the quality factor. Tool wouldn't in good conscience release an album they didn't feel very strongly about and from the gripes I've heard, you may not be hearing the final album. That doesn't discredit the music that's out there. Maybe it's good filler music that is bonus material for you to enjoy.

One more thing--track listings. Also not a good defense against the hoax. How do you know the song called Jambi is indeed that song? It's pretty easy to insert another song with the exact same running time. It's called editing. Anyone could stick in a 4:52 section of dogs barking and say it's the correct track.

Anyway, that's my take--and you can take it with a grain of salt...

I agree with the above post. Though I doubt they would take the time to "record" a decoy album. Would have taken some time.. The performances (from the few listens I have give it) are flawless. Bands dont take 2 months to record an album because they can rip out perfects takes in a day.

As for time and money, virtually none. If these are in fact b-sides they were already recorded. Adjust a few levels, bounce the session, rip to files.. leak. Quick and easy!

There is a lot of talk of this record needing to be digested. While I do agree with this viewpoint (same for all tool records), this record did not give me the initial kick in the balls that every other tool record did. Some good ideas and good performances, but a step back IN MY OPINION. If this is all they have in store, no respect lost. But I suspect there is more to come, something just doesnt feel right. No flow, no cohesion, just feels thrown together.

Time WILL tell!

I don't think Blair ever joked about the band recording a decoy album then, though. As far as I know, his little reference to that decoy album is how all this nonsense started. Had there been no mention of it, instead of all these "b-sides" theories, we'd either have more people enjoying the album (knowing it's real) or a lot of openly disappointed people. The main reason I now want May 2 to approach quickly is not only because I want the album, but because I want all of the conspiracy theories to end.

exactly. can this even be compared to how you felt listening to aenima, or lateralus when they came out? yes they all took time to sink in but never did i once feel it necessary to question when these tracks may have been recorded, or how good the sound quality was, and have to listen to the album again and again to test this and many other theories or questions which naturally arise once you listen to these leaked tracks. try and compare the production quality of a song like lateralus from start to finish and compare it to anything on this leak.

and think about it, they've had 5 f*ckin whole years to work on the next set of highly anticipated tracks, which i personally feel includes this leak, since it is good material, but consider the involvement all of us have with this debate, with the possible expectation of new material on may 2nd....

this i believe highly likely will turn out to be a genius marketing move and a great business decision on their end - not to mention funny as hell to fuck around with every one of us, either way, as even with these leaked tracks from what i can tell, most of us are buying the new disc(s).

i really love a ton of these tracks (particularly jambi, and even the pot) but, to me, these things sound like awesome leftovers, or b-sides, recorded who knows when and eventually remastered. and no, they're not filler, or decoy shit, or BS tracks, they're actual heartfelt tool tracks that likely just never made the cut - and the reason we love this band so much based on their other higher quality releases.

By saying that you are giving them "the benefit of the doubt" is implying that they have done something wrong/bad. Now granted, I realize that you said you don't like the new album, but that is you. Calling it a "regression" is simply your opinion. I have seen probably as many people praise the album as I have attack it.

Setting a high standard for a band doesn't make a person a "good fan." A fan should accept the music a band makes, not expect it to be a certain way. I'm not saying you have to like the music, but to expect that it be the way you want it........well you might as well make your own music then. The band does something different with each release, and it seems they did that again. I haven't heard it because I choose to wait. I have, however seen many people complain about the album not flowing, and how it sounds like their old material. Who ever said the album had to flow? During the listening sessions they weren't even sure what order they wanted the songs. This tells me they didn't write it a certain way, and thus it's not necessarily a concept album or something like that. Also, you list Salival as a masterpiece, yet it was just a bunch of live songs and left over shit. I mean, it's good, but how can it be a masterpiece when three of the songs are just live versions, two of the tracks are filler shit, and the bonus song is about sitting on Maynard's cock? That doesn't scream masterpiece to me.

Maybe I just don't understand because I haven't heard the album, but I have no expectations for it really. I've heard Vicarious and I like it a lot. I'm sure I'll like 10,000 Days, but if I don't, so be it. I bought Lateralus right when it came out, but I wasn't a Tool fan at the time. It took me years to apprecaite the album like I do now. Even though I am now a Tool fan waiting for the new album, I don't expect to love the album like I do Lateralus for quite some time. I almost expect that I won't really like it at first, but I'll still listen. I won't talk shit on some anonymous message board to make myself feel better. I have no delusions on what the band owes me, nor what the music SHOULD sound like. The music should sound how they wanted it to. That's all there is to it. If you don't like the album, don't but it, but it's pointless to bitch about it on the internet.

I think I got off-topic. Blair had mentioned a decoy, so people were expecting one. I guess they never paid attention to the rest of Blair's ramblings, like the Christmas turkey and Axl Rose. Maybe Chinese Democracy is the new Tool album and 10,000 Days really is a decoy. Axl Rose can't make music anymore so they're gonna use Guns N Roses as the name to release the new album. Why didn't this theory come up? I mean that shit about Axl was important enough to take out of the newsletter once it was already posted.

Blair said they spent a year on the decoy album. So, since we're currently assuming Blair was telling the truth about the decoy, then he's telling the truth about the time table. In interviews (specifically the one with VISION I just read today) the band said it took a year and a half to complete the album. If you take Blair's info, that means the real album only took half a year. Since this must be the case, the real album is gonna be so much worse than everyone thinks the decoy is.

My point is, listen to the band and not Blair's ramblings. He's straightforward when he needs to be, so when a post isn't straight-forward, don't look too much into it. There just wasn't enough time to make a decoy album and a real one in the year and half that they took to make the new album.

P.S. I'm not afraid to be wrong, so on the off chance they DID make a decoy and that is what leaked, so be it. I don't fucking care because that would mean two things. There's two CDs worth of new Tool material and they didn't succeed in fooling me because I didn't download the leak.

For those of you holding out hope that this isn't the real deal are all just setting yourselves up for a massive disappointment. The sooner you come to grips with this being real, the better chance you have of salvaging anything from this album. For those of you who dont, you are missing out on a great album and May god have mercy on your souls!

Which is exactly why I explicitly stated it was an opinion.

See bottom of first paragraph of first post.

I know, but saying that you hope it's a decoy because you think the album sucks is a poor argument.

Its not just internet folk who downloaded the album.

That's a good point. Shit, I missed that. I think it's mainly cuz I think of Salival as the collection of videos + the live version of Pushit.

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Rethink what you just said.

Oh, you're right. I actually downloaded the leak off the telephone.

I think what he was trying to say is that people who do not spend countless hours browing the internet every week have downloaded the album as well as the people that do.

What I should have said, but didn't, is that when you compare something new to something that you already love, you're likely to get let down. The album hasn't even been leaked for a week. Even if you've listened constantly, you haven't had time to process it if it really is as complex as it has been said. In fact, I'd say you NEED to give it breathing room. By that I mean don't listen to it constantly. Listen a few times, then listen to other music you listen to for a while. The way music works for me, I need to hear it over the course of weeks on and off before I can truly know how I feel about it. Different moods and whatnot. I listened to With_Teeth for a week straight nearly, then I went back to other music, then threw With_Teeth in there now and then. A year later, I love the album much more than a week after I bought it. I was discontent with the amount of repitition on it, but now I'm comfortable with it.

I think the "true" fans just need to give it time and the space it needs and it will all make sense. Either you like it or you don't, but you shouldn't expect it to sound like you want it to.

So given that this is real, and in all honesty, how do you like what we've heard so far?

Well, like I said, I've only heard Vicarious, but I'm pleased. I can see why people compare it to Lateralus, even though I don't think it really would fit on Lateralus. I still see WHY people are doing it. To be honest though, I wouldn't mind if they had done a continuation of Lateralus. They do their thing and I decide if I like it.

That's cool. I wouldn't mind a Lateralus II myself.

I'm trying to be a little more positive now after someone got sick of my negative commentary. But if you care to read this http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=41850 thread you'll see my take on it.

But I think we're both on the same page.

Well, if you REALLY don't like it, that's too bad. I know when I got Lateralus I wasn't really a Tool fan and most of it I didn't like at the time. I kept listening to it though for the parts I did like and when I get a new CD I listen to it start to finish for the first month pretty much. I don't shuffle it. The album grew on me, but it wasn't one of my favorites until a year ago or maybe two. So, like I said, I'm not expecting to love this album right away, but I'm also not expecting anything from it.

Who is that directed to exactly? There's more than one person sharing their opinion right now.

I would also like to add something that I haven't seen anywhere yet.

What is the origin of the leaked album that everyone has downloaded? Who leaked it and from where? How reliable was the source of the leak?

I remember when I heard some buzz about the new Metallica album (St.Anger) and how it was going to be so cool and a return to their old sound (as if), so out of dumb curiousity I downloaded the whole "album" before it came out. It was all fake...if Metallica can do it, why can't Tool, when they actually have brains and integrity, unlike the Lars Ulrich ego/greed machine?

BTW, IMHO Vicarious is far and above the other pieces I've heard from the leaked album, so it being the only "real" track even makes more sense to me.

Most fakes are not done by the artist. the 10,000 days leak is obviously tool.

When someone says "ur stupid" they should just me ignored. Calling ANYONE stupid, without stating a reason, while typing "ur" instead of "you're", clearly makes them the idiot.

Unless it's just sacrasm or something else that can't be detected on the internet. Either way, useless posts like that should be ignored.

Agreed. You should also attempt to at least be professional in your conduct, since your sig pimps your business website.

Someone got it from a friend who was very close to the record company, he uploaded it to a private BitTorrent tracker and thus spread. His source was somewhat reliable: apparently the copy of the CD that was given to him was in .m4a format, which is pretty standard with new albums. I wish I could say more, but talk concerning this matter must be kept to a minimum.

Dude, you should just stop trying to deny it... you got owned... i mean, he said it all. UR STUPID. Whats left to say?

True. I guess I was unexpectadly hurt by his comments. I'll get over it.

lateralus is a pathetic, serious piece of wannabe-enlightment...they were almost on the way to take themself too serious...I am glad for 10,000 days leaks because it is more humorous like aenima again...it has a different vibe....
btw: funny that you consider salival a "masterpiece".....

I don't know about you, but the album will be in my hands on May 2nd. All of this bickering would not be here if most people kept their hands out of the cookie jar.

haha! This guy has hit it on the head. Tool is pretty much leaking their table scraps. Hats off to you my friend...

the point is, it's something as trivial as a CD you're all believing to be fake. it's not the fucking moon landings. it's not the latest episode of 24. there's no conspiracy or anything like that. it's a fucking CD. mysterious as TOOL are, they aren't going to release a fake CD. especially such a fucking good one.

If what we are listening to is a decoy that took a year to record, it doesnt mean that the real album took only half a year.

I love aenima and i love salival and i love lateralus and i have come to expect music of a certain calibre from tool, so DO NOT talk about fans loving whatever a band dishes out.

I'm a fan of the music, I really don't care about the individuals behind the music. Music is the important thing, not the band.

The main difference between 10000 days and previous tool albums is lyrical content. If you love tool's lyrics and how maynard chooses his words, you will laugh at quite a few tracks on this album.

Do i have too high expectations of Tool? Well people who say that really don't get the music at all. Going on the 3 past Tool albums aenima, salival(yeah i know but it has four brilliant songs, no other description) they have set the precedent themselves!

The new album is mediocre, its nothing at all like anything they have ever done in the way that all it sounds like is a rehashing of old riffs and bad lyrics that got dropped for a reason.

If it is the real album and the only album they had scheduled for release, there will be many dissapointed fans.

O and TOOL will be forever picked on by the rest of teh prog crowd. I will rather listen to Opeth, Anathema or the Porcupine Tree or even A Perfect Circle---along with all the good tool songs, so if the latter is the case, some tool-fanboy is gonna be teh lucky (or unlucky) receiver of my preordered piece of shit.

Agreed. Your reasons above are why I had my doubts are legit/hoax etc. However I've sadly settled into the idea that this is a new Tool direction. Will check out those band's you've mentioned anyhow. Cheers.

Porcupine tree blows. I saw them live, they just wish they were tool circa Aenima.


Opeth > *

"You are such a fucking loser"

"Go to hell"

"If you don't like 10,000 Days, you're not a real Tool fan."

"This is the real deal; quit denying it."

"You're such a dumb ass conspiracy theorist."