I'm glad I found this forum. For about a month now, I've been thinking that maybe I was crazy for not liking the new album. I tried listening to it so many times, asking myself if maybe my taste in music had changed. I guess there's a whole mass of people that agree with me, and I'm glad to see I'm not simply losing my mind.

You cant force yourself to like anything.

^ ditto.

Why do I have to like every thing Tool comes out with, no matter how bad it is?
(For example, I DON'T like 10,000 Days, and apparently i'm "not a true Tool fan" or I "just don't understand Tool".
WELL WHAT IF THERE IS NOTHING TO UNDERSTAND?

And why do the lyrics for 10,000 Days automatically have to have deep meaning and significance, just because its Tool? What if the lyrics meant nothing?

But of course that wouldn't happen, because everything Tool does has to have a deep spiritual meaning, right?

I DO NOT like 10,000 Days, and I will never like it. And yes, Tool is my favorite band.

Let the flaming commence.

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Whether you like the album or not is up to you, but there are clearly things to to understand about it.

Why did you make this thread?

so the song about maynard's mother doesnt have spiritual meaningful? ..even though its pretty much talking about going to heaven the whole time? or Jambi i heard was about his son.. these songs plus alot more off 10kdays do have significant meaning to him and me and many other fans.. but its fine if you dont like it... i could careless.. maynard has evolved lyrically from the Undertow Ænima days get used to it. change can be good. i guess some people cant handle it.

Don't waste your time. Look at his post history.

your right.. why did i even bother

yes WFM/10KD means shit. fuck maynards mom. boo hoo shes dead.

Read the fucking post. I didn't say it didn't mean anything. I was just saying what if it didn't.


So because i've never posted on here, I can't have opinions?

You don't

Well, clearly, if you realise that there is nothing to understand, then you have understood it.

But be clear on the meaning of "fan". This word is short for "fanatic" which means to have a unreasoning devotion or enthusiasm for something. So if you don't like 10,000 Days then you really are not a true Tool fan. But, then, who would want to be a fan? Surely Tool have advised us against such blind following. Which brings me to your next point: deep and meaningful lyrics
This is a very good point. What if the vocals were just made up words and sounds and were there purely for melodic purposes? Apparently Maynard has considered this and would certainly prefer listeners to at least envelope themselves in the musical aspect of his singing first - not the meanings behind the words.
Well, obviously you are being rhetorical here. But to put a joke answer to a joke question: I think Stinkfist has the deepest meaning of them all.
Good on you for not liking it. But don't discount the possibility that your tastes may change.

Hahaha. That's good stuff.

merging will suffice

Why do you condense the "I dislike the record" thread? If you didn't like the record would it still be "condensed"?

Towely: you need to learn some manners...

everybody: Im drunk, and I love yuo all...

don't discount the likelihood of finding much better music from much better artists..

listened to this album a ton. decent album. terrible tool album.

Wrong. People are certainly entitled to their opinion, but give me a break. You people seem determined to not like the album.

I'm not going to go back and research hundreds of posts, but I would be willing to bet that most of these people who do not like the album are the same people who hated the artwork or song titles that were released before the album was released. Whatever. Your loss... truly.

People like that... I like watching the door close after them.

amen.

yes, i am determined to not like the latest album of my favorite band that I spent my money on. you got me pegged man!

i dislike the album (relatively) because it is weak and just not that good. I'm not a "new" tool fan, and I've liked everyone of their albums. I'm a tool fan that thinks Aenima was their best album, Lateralus was their best song, and that everything they've done has been imbued with emotion and passion and that their music has evolved greatly, and purposefully, with each successive album.

except for 10,000 days.

vicarious is a decent song, but is essentially a "hey let's jam on schism and take it in a new direction" song, and it has incredibly weak lyrics and never has any climax or real sustained "wow" moment.

jambi - decent song, but once again, really not that good. boring riff, cheese lyrics.

wings for marie pt.1 - boring song, redundant in light of part 2.

part 2 - amazing lyrics. the song however, sucks. it is meandering and goes nowhere. it does not match the emotion of the lyrics and the fact that they used fucking sound effects of rain and thunder (CEMETARY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATES) is laughable

the pot - uhh... liked it better when it was called ticks and leeches... or hooker with a penis, or jerk-off. cool bass riff, but total retread of a song

actually i'm getting tired of this. this album has no emotional climax moments on par with Pushit, Third Eye, Lateralus, etc. There is a dearth of good riffs. The lyrics, Pt. 2 excluded, are boring, overly simplistic, and weak. (monkey killing monkey? repeated 20 times? cmon now)



the album just isn't that good.

^ its funny how fans who dislike the new album are:

-the ones that believe ÆNIMA is tools best album
-10kd is full of recycled riffs
-mention the word "cheesy" a lot.

Just an objective observation...

Nice observation.

Half of these same kruel felt the same about Lateralus, and look what they were discussing a year later? Fibonacci sequence anyone? Instant gratification is no longer the top priority from an entity that has already been established. Aenima firmly established TOOL, and they have gone against the grain and made what they feel/want. Those who hate on it, will in time understand it.

Is a masterpiece a masterpiece right away?

We have had Aenima digesting for awhile, and I believe in time 10kdays will rank up there as one of the best tool efferts with all tool fan[atics]. It is an awesome album. Love it or hate it, the quality and artistry envolved is top notch... ya know?

Add "to me" to almost every sentence in your post and it wouldn't sound so ridiculous.

I give up. You people that don't like 10,000 Days... whatever. It's your loss. You've obviously missed the boat on this one, and the rest of us can't do anything about it. I'm done feeling sorry for the people that can't (or refuse to) see what an incredible album this is or to get anything out of it. Fuck it...

In the words of Randall from Clerks: "You'll be missed"

"one album to rule them all"

;)

I, personally, find it funny how the people who get on to those who don't love 10,000 Days with every tissue in their body, are the people who don't even want to try and see any view that challenges, "Tool is the greatest, most perfect band to ever walk the face of the earth, and each album they have made has progressed substantially in all aspects, especially 10,000 Days, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron and is not, nor was, a TRUE TOOL fan."

lol got sucked into this damn thread again.