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i'm pretty sure it's "pure is we begin" not "pure as we begin"
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i'm pretty sure it's "pure is we begin" not "pure as we begin"
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04-23-2006, 06:30 PM
i hear "pure" in there a few times, but my first impression was "cure by will alone" and i still hear it, at least on that line.
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i hear "pure" in there a few times, but my first impression was "cure by will alone" and i still hear it, at least on that line.
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I get more of
"Let it be that state of manyhood bound and loathing. So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect."
Liber al vel Legis 1:42-44
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Yes exactly, so "love is the law, love under will" is not a non sequitar at all. One of the best songs on this album. It could be cure by will alone, it makes more sense. As a thematic intro to right in two its great with the "Cutting our love right in two" chorus.
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I get more of
"Let it be that state of manyhood bound and loathing. So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect."
Liber al vel Legis 1:42-44
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Yes exactly, so "love is the law, love under will" is not a non sequitar at all. One of the best songs on this album. It could be cure by will alone, it makes more sense. As a thematic intro to right in two its great with the "Cutting our love right in two" chorus.
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i'm hearing
"light the way along this home we occupy"
instead of
"light the way or warm this
hope we occupy"
makes more sense as well.
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Re: lyrics
i'm hearing
"light the way along this home we occupy"
instead of
"light the way or warm this
hope we occupy"
makes more sense as well.
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i'm hearing
"light the way along this home we occupy"
instead of
"light the way or warm this
hope we occupy"
makes more sense as well.
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I've listened to this several times, I hear:
Light the way, or warm this home we occupy.
Also, to the snakes line in question above...lol, its
"Forge a blade to slay the stranger, take whatever we desire"
If you look at that whole verse... "spark becomes a flame, flame becomes a fire" couldn't it be that in the fire, you forge the blade.... use the blade to slay the stranger, and then take whatever you desire?
just my .02
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Re: lyrics
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Originally Posted by jackfriday
i'm hearing
"light the way along this home we occupy"
instead of
"light the way or warm this
hope we occupy"
makes more sense as well.
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I've listened to this several times, I hear:
Light the way, or warm this home we occupy.
Also, to the snakes line in question above...lol, its
"Forge a blade to slay the stranger, take whatever we desire"
If you look at that whole verse... "spark becomes a flame, flame becomes a fire" couldn't it be that in the fire, you forge the blade.... use the blade to slay the stranger, and then take whatever you desire?
just my .02
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i hear "pure" in there a few times, but my first impression was "cure by will alone" and i still hear it, at least on that line.
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I'm hearing the same c on a couple of lines - I was thinking 'curious we begin'.
Oh and that snakes on a plane thing was fucking priceless. No other words for it. Fucking priceless.
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i hear "pure" in there a few times, but my first impression was "cure by will alone" and i still hear it, at least on that line.
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I'm hearing the same c on a couple of lines - I was thinking 'curious we begin'.
Oh and that snakes on a plane thing was fucking priceless. No other words for it. Fucking priceless.
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04-26-2006, 05:55 PM
The more I listen to it, the more I think the second line in the song is 'Curious we come in'.
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The more I listen to it, the more I think the second line in the song is 'Curious we come in'.
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04-26-2006, 07:26 PM
Don't forget about that "pure by will alone" is incorrect.
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Don't forget about that "pure by will alone" is incorrect.
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I don't think they were trying to break any new ground here. It's toungue in cheek. You know the whole, "Play it backwards man, it's Satan telling you to kill your cat." But here it's telling kids to work hard and listen to their parents. That my friend is friggin' funny.
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reversals are the easiest effect ever. it was impressive when hendrix did it.
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I don't think they were trying to break any new ground here. It's toungue in cheek. You know the whole, "Play it backwards man, it's Satan telling you to kill your cat." But here it's telling kids to work hard and listen to their parents. That my friend is friggin' funny.
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wow, i think we found this out at the same time.
www.myspace.com/zeitgeistfm
i uploaded the reversed file just so everyone could hear it easier
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Re: Backwards Lyrics
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wow, i think we found this out at the same time.
www.myspace.com/zeitgeistfm
i uploaded the reversed file just so everyone could hear it easier
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Song not found. I'll have to check it out when I get home. Cool find. Makes me wonder if any of the backwards stuff on Lost Keys is really anything or not.
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Song not found. I'll have to check it out when I get home. Cool find. Makes me wonder if any of the backwards stuff on Lost Keys is really anything or not.
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i kind of heard this:
"spark becomes a flame
flame becomes a fire
fill the plane with snakes, the stranger
take whatever we desire"
... might be wrong though
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i kind of heard this:
"spark becomes a flame
flame becomes a fire
fill the plane with snakes, the stranger
take whatever we desire"
... might be wrong though
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I've a doubt on "throw to stay the stranger" , I would be more logical if it was "Thrown this to the stranger." The tool became a weapon, first to protect us, then to attack and destroy the strangers, each others ...like the fire which lighted the way and warmed and which finished by forging blades.....
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I've a doubt on "throw to stay the stranger" , I would be more logical if it was "Thrown this to the stranger." The tool became a weapon, first to protect us, then to attack and destroy the strangers, each others ...like the fire which lighted the way and warmed and which finished by forging blades.....
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04-28-2006, 04:59 AM
It's linked to the word 'intenstion". For me this song means that nothing is bad, it's just the intention you have when you use it which determines what will be bad or good :
Fire : warm,protect/attack,forging weapon
Stone: build house,protect/throw it,crush bones of the others with...
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It's linked to the word 'intenstion". For me this song means that nothing is bad, it's just the intention you have when you use it which determines what will be bad or good :
Fire : warm,protect/attack,forging weapon
Stone: build house,protect/throw it,crush bones of the others with...
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I don't think they were trying to break any new ground here. It's toungue in cheek. You know the whole, "Play it backwards man, it's Satan telling you to kill your cat." But here it's telling kids to work hard and listen to their parents. That my friend is friggin' funny.
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i still think hes making a nazi reference; but if hes trying to be ironic than hes doing it in more ways than one. Mindless Self Indulgence have a song called "backmask" and the lyrics tell you to kill yourself but in reverse it tells you to be good and brush your teeth! MSI rule.
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Re: Backwards Lyrics
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Originally Posted by Doowadiddy
I don't think they were trying to break any new ground here. It's toungue in cheek. You know the whole, "Play it backwards man, it's Satan telling you to kill your cat." But here it's telling kids to work hard and listen to their parents. That my friend is friggin' funny.
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i still think hes making a nazi reference; but if hes trying to be ironic than hes doing it in more ways than one. Mindless Self Indulgence have a song called "backmask" and the lyrics tell you to kill yourself but in reverse it tells you to be good and brush your teeth! MSI rule.
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04-28-2006, 09:19 AM
good things... how long until people start listening to the whole album backwards, trying to find anything they can.
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good things... how long until people start listening to the whole album backwards, trying to find anything they can.
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wow thats crazy......wonder if there are any songs like that on the other albums????? quick..somebody get to it!
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wow thats crazy......wonder if there are any songs like that on the other albums????? quick..somebody get to it!
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04-29-2006, 11:52 AM
From an interview with Maynard :
"Information, itself, is pure. Take a knife, for example. You can use it to cut up vegetables, meat, butter your bread, etc. Or you can use it as a weapon. The way in which information exists in its many forms leaves for us the decision as to how it is we wish to use it. Information itself has a certain purity. Humans have intentionality. It's humans who decide how it is they wish to behave. Information and technology are pure" [or what I referred to as amoral-that is, morality-the rightness/wrongness of actions-cannot take place until humans decide how they wish to use them]."......I think it's the subject of Intension
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From an interview with Maynard :
"Information, itself, is pure. Take a knife, for example. You can use it to cut up vegetables, meat, butter your bread, etc. Or you can use it as a weapon. The way in which information exists in its many forms leaves for us the decision as to how it is we wish to use it. Information itself has a certain purity. Humans have intentionality. It's humans who decide how it is they wish to behave. Information and technology are pure" [or what I referred to as amoral-that is, morality-the rightness/wrongness of actions-cannot take place until humans decide how they wish to use them]."......I think it's the subject of Intension
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04-29-2006, 12:08 PM
i think you may be onto something there..
or just on something.
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i think you may be onto something there..
or just on something.
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but i agree either way ;)
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but i agree either way ;)
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:)
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Get out, it's just on this one.
And I think he says more than the mother and father things.
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Get out, it's just on this one.
And I think he says more than the mother and father things.
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I've a doubt on "throw to stay the stranger" , I would be more logical if it was "Thrown this to the stranger." The tool became a weapon, first to protect us, then to attack and destroy the strangers, each others ...like the fire which lighted the way and warmed and which finished by forging blades.....
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I'll second this idea - and add that 'Forge a blade to slay the stranger, take whatever we desire' makes more sense to the overall theme of this song, which is pretty straightforward.
It's a fresh take on the old cliche "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Don't get mad at the snake, get mad at the jerk who put it on your plane.
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Originally Posted by vehuiah
I've a doubt on "throw to stay the stranger" , I would be more logical if it was "Thrown this to the stranger." The tool became a weapon, first to protect us, then to attack and destroy the strangers, each others ...like the fire which lighted the way and warmed and which finished by forging blades.....
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I'll second this idea - and add that 'Forge a blade to slay the stranger, take whatever we desire' makes more sense to the overall theme of this song, which is pretty straightforward.
It's a fresh take on the old cliche "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Don't get mad at the snake, get mad at the jerk who put it on your plane.
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05-01-2006, 04:39 PM
pretty cool...but who tries to search an album for backwards messages?
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pretty cool...but who tries to search an album for backwards messages?
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Ha best ever. what programs does one use though to find such hidden messages?
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yep 5:55 on this song the vocals are backwards, maynard says
work hard, stay in school, listen to your mother, listen to your father. Go find a program to play the song backwards, man that shit is crazy!
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I did it.
and im still smiling.
Just cause.... its friggen great.
loving the cd more as its the 10th play for me.
exluding the backwards thing.
funny stuff.
peace.
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yep 5:55 on this song the vocals are backwards, maynard says
work hard, stay in school, listen to your mother, listen to your father. Go find a program to play the song backwards, man that shit is crazy!
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I did it.
and im still smiling.
Just cause.... its friggen great.
loving the cd more as its the 10th play for me.
exluding the backwards thing.
funny stuff.
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I'll second this idea - and add that 'Forge a blade to slay the stranger, take whatever we desire' makes more sense to the overall theme of this song, which is pretty straightforward.
It's a fresh take on the old cliche "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Don't get mad at the snake, get mad at the jerk who put it on your plane.
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I hear SLAY as well... everything else fits.
and im kinda new... as in... not paying attention to much else.
whats up with the snakes on the plane joke. i need a wikipedia type definition here.
im curious.
bwaaaa
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also.
I see... listening, and reading, i kinda sense a "you want to leave this world as 'pure' as you came in" type thing.
Just me. Just me as in the state and moment im in right now anyway.
peace
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I'll second this idea - and add that 'Forge a blade to slay the stranger, take whatever we desire' makes more sense to the overall theme of this song, which is pretty straightforward.
It's a fresh take on the old cliche "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Don't get mad at the snake, get mad at the jerk who put it on your plane.
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I hear SLAY as well... everything else fits.
and im kinda new... as in... not paying attention to much else.
whats up with the snakes on the plane joke. i need a wikipedia type definition here.
im curious.
bwaaaa
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also.
I see... listening, and reading, i kinda sense a "you want to leave this world as 'pure' as you came in" type thing.
Just me. Just me as in the state and moment im in right now anyway.
peace
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Ha best ever. what programs does one use though to find such hidden messages?
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Quicktime (Pro) will play audio (or video) backwards. Not sure if it's in the regular Quicktime version as I only have pro here.
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Ha best ever. what programs does one use though to find such hidden messages?
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light the way or warm this
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light the way or warm this
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Intension
pure as we begin
pure as we come in
pure as we begin
move by will alone
pure as we begin
here we have a stone
gather, place, erase, so
shelter turned to home
pure as we begin
here we have a stone
throw this to the stranger
swore to crush his bones
move by will alone
spark becomes a flame
flame becomes a fire
light the way or warm this
hope we occupy
spark becomes a flame
flame becomes a fire
forge a blade to slay the stranger
take whatever we desire
move by will alone
pure as we begin
pure as we begin
move by will alone
leave as we come in
pure as light, return to one
move by will alone
move by will alone
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Intension
pure as we begin
pure as we come in
pure as we begin
move by will alone
pure as we begin
here we have a stone
gather, place, erase, so
shelter turned to home
pure as we begin
here we have a stone
throw this to the stranger
swore to crush his bones
move by will alone
spark becomes a flame
flame becomes a fire
light the way or warm this
hope we occupy
spark becomes a flame
flame becomes a fire
forge a blade to slay the stranger
take whatever we desire
move by will alone
pure as we begin
pure as we begin
move by will alone
leave as we come in
pure as light, return to one
move by will alone
move by will alone
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05-03-2006, 04:15 PM
i hear the following parts thusly:
gather, place, arrange so
shelter turns to home
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light the way or warm this
home we occupy
and to reiterate some earlier posts: i think some of the lines say "pure" and some say "cure".. "cure by will alone" i'm pretty sure about, the rest i don't know.
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Re: lyrics
i hear the following parts thusly:
gather, place, arrange so
shelter turns to home
and
light the way or warm this
home we occupy
and to reiterate some earlier posts: i think some of the lines say "pure" and some say "cure".. "cure by will alone" i'm pretty sure about, the rest i don't know.
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05-04-2006, 08:39 AM
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Re: Backwards Lyrics
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05-04-2006, 09:36 AM
I'm thinking it's "throw this day the stranger / swore to crush his bones." As in, this is the day he swore to crush me, so I'll throw the stone at him. It sounds like it... it just seems that there's definitely other than "throw to stay the stranger." We're all going to feel like idiots if there are ever official lyrics released.
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Re: lyrics
I'm thinking it's "throw this day the stranger / swore to crush his bones." As in, this is the day he swore to crush me, so I'll throw the stone at him. It sounds like it... it just seems that there's definitely other than "throw to stay the stranger." We're all going to feel like idiots if there are ever official lyrics released.
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05-04-2006, 09:43 AM
This clip contains the full 30 second bit. You do have to turn up the volume a little bit because the message is whispered and is kind of quiet...but...it does say:
"Work hard. Stay in school. Listen to your mother. Your father is right.
Work hard. Stay in school. Listen to your mother. Your father is right."
05-04-2006, 09:43 AM
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Re: Backwards Lyrics
This clip contains the full 30 second bit. You do have to turn up the volume a little bit because the message is whispered and is kind of quiet...but...it does say:
"Work hard. Stay in school. Listen to your mother. Your father is right.
Work hard. Stay in school. Listen to your mother. Your father is right."
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05-04-2006, 10:00 AM
I also saw this on another site: (These lyrics are played backwards: Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right, son... Jesus loves you... Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right son...)
They seemed to imply that it was at the beginning of the song - "Jesus loves you" brother!
05-04-2006, 10:00 AM
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Re: Backwards Lyrics
I also saw this on another site: (These lyrics are played backwards: Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right, son... Jesus loves you... Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right son...)
They seemed to imply that it was at the beginning of the song - "Jesus loves you" brother!
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Originally Posted by A WalkAbout
pure as we begin,
move by will alone
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I'm hearing smooth by will alone. Anyone else?
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Originally Posted by bogsnarth
gather, place, arrange so
shelter turns to home
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light the way or warm this
home we occupy
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I think it's "gather, place, array so." I'm not hearing the g sound. However, Array and arrange both fit in context better than erase.
I also hear home and not hope as well.
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I'm thinking it's "throw this day the stranger / swore to crush his bones." ...
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I'm still hearing "throw to stay," and it makes sense: Throw a rock to hold off the stranger.
My $0.02
05-04-2006, 11:22 AM
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Re: lyrics
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Originally Posted by A WalkAbout
pure as we begin,
move by will alone
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I'm hearing smooth by will alone. Anyone else?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bogsnarth
gather, place, arrange so
shelter turns to home
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light the way or warm this
home we occupy
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I think it's "gather, place, array so." I'm not hearing the g sound. However, Array and arrange both fit in context better than erase.
I also hear home and not hope as well.
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Originally Posted by cynicis
I'm thinking it's "throw this day the stranger / swore to crush his bones." ...
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I'm still hearing "throw to stay," and it makes sense: Throw a rock to hold off the stranger.
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(These lyrics are played backwards: Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right, son... Jesus loves you... Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right son...)
Pure as we begin.
Pure as we come in.
Pure as we begin.
Ruled by will alone.
Pure as we begin.
Here we have a stone.
Gather, place, erase so. (*)
Shelter turns to home.
Pure as we begin.
Here we have a stone.
Throw to stay the stranger. (*)
Swore to crush his bones. (*)
Ruled by will alone.
Spark becomes a flame.
Flame becomes a fire.
Light the way or warm this.
Home we occupy.
Spark becomes a flame.
Flame becomes a fire.
Forge a blade to slay the stranger.
Take whatever we desire.
Moved by will alone.
Pure as we begin.
Pure as we begin
Move by will alone.
Leave as we come in.
Pure as light.
Return to one.
Move by will alone.
Move by will alone.
05-04-2006, 05:34 PM
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Re: lyrics
(These lyrics are played backwards: Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right, son... Jesus loves you... Work hard, Stay in school, Listen to your mother, your father is right/rising/right son...)
Pure as we begin.
Pure as we come in.
Pure as we begin.
Ruled by will alone.
Pure as we begin.
Here we have a stone.
Gather, place, erase so. (*)
Shelter turns to home.
Pure as we begin.
Here we have a stone.
Throw to stay the stranger. (*)
Swore to crush his bones. (*)
Ruled by will alone.
Spark becomes a flame.
Flame becomes a fire.
Light the way or warm this.
Home we occupy.
Spark becomes a flame.
Flame becomes a fire.
Forge a blade to slay the stranger.
Take whatever we desire.
Moved by will alone.
Pure as we begin.
Pure as we begin
Move by will alone.
Leave as we come in.
Pure as light.
Return to one.
Move by will alone.
Move by will alone.
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Yes exactly, so "love is the law, love under will" is not a non sequitar at all. One of the best songs on this album. It could be cure by will alone, it makes more sense. As a thematic intro to right in two its great with the "Cutting our love right in two" chorus.
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I'll have to get a few listens through thinking "Cure by Will alone" and let you know what I think =)
I just made a fresh batch of Cakes of Light, I think I'm going to have to do Mass of the Phoenix, and this song is going to be in te mix for sure.
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05-05-2006, 03:33 PM
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Re: lyrics
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaBay
Yes exactly, so "love is the law, love under will" is not a non sequitar at all. One of the best songs on this album. It could be cure by will alone, it makes more sense. As a thematic intro to right in two its great with the "Cutting our love right in two" chorus.
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I'll have to get a few listens through thinking "Cure by Will alone" and let you know what I think =)
I just made a fresh batch of Cakes of Light, I think I'm going to have to do Mass of the Phoenix, and this song is going to be in te mix for sure.
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