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Old 12-15-2008, 02:55 PM   #121
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The pot was the first song I listened to that had temporarily convinced me that 10kdayz was a hoax. The first 30 seconds hurt my balls.
srsly hoax ?
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:36 AM   #122
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Why don't people like this song? My thoughts:

It encompasses everything that is mainstream on the radio. For me, I'm starting to grow real tired of what's played on the radio - and I'm sure many other people are too. The RIAA, the music labels and record companies - are all in control of our industry - only playing the same styles of monotonous music over and over again.

Was "The Pot" an effort by Tool to draw in those listening to the Top 40 pop/rock bands? If Tool is supposed to break this mold - then why create a song with this style and rhythm, when real Tool fans want more of what is Aenima and Lateralus? If I listen to "Bleed it Out" by Linkin Park then "The Pot" by Tool, I can't see a difference - 2 examples of mainstream songs that are played on the radio.

People who were drawn into the Tool due to "The Pot" instead of Undertow for example (when Maynard was at his best... period) were drawn in because it sounded like everything else they play on the radio - anything between Hinder and Incubus.

I think some people hate "The Pot" because it draws people back into the mainstream music scene. Others hate it because it's an artsy fartsy song that for me, is personally boring to listen to and doesn't hold the same values as older albums do.

It's just "another" song.

In my opinion, "Vicarious" should have gotten more airtime than "The Pot."
One could easily use this argument for the song Stinkfist... which drew in a lot of Tools loyal followers. (For me it was sober, and eventually the whole lateralus album)

I also have a few friends that cannot tell the difference between Tool and Nickleback. Thats like someone who cant see the difference between black and white... To each his own I guess.

I think the song captures a lot of Tools power, the odd swing in the timing, and more interesting play on words.. And I'm also of the opinion that Tool is not interested in appealing to the mainstream crowd. After all... they have come as far as they have because they create art for themselves, and share it with others.

I will say though, the intro of this song caught me off guard in the first listen. But once the bass line kicked in, it was all good.
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Re: Why is it people don't like this song?

Terrible song. should be called The Pot[ty].
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Terrible song. should be called The Pot[ty].
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:28 AM   #125
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I love this song! One of my favorites on the CD.

I guess everyone's taste is in their mouth......
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I will say though, the intro of this song caught me off guard in the first listen. But once the bass line kicked in, it was all good.
this sounds spot on. i really like the bass, it totally honks and moves the song along.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:39 PM   #127
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i really like the bass, it totally honks and moves the song along.

Yeah the bass in this song is cool, i like it a lot. But what was Maynard thinking? lol someone should have told him how bad that intro sounds before they released it, how embarrasing lol
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i like the intro because its different... a little to high... but eh.. oh well
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Yeah the bass in this song is cool, i like it a lot. But what was Maynard thinking? lol someone should have told him how bad that intro sounds before they released it, how embarrasing lol
i remember thinking last week that it seemed as if James (matured after writing Wings/10k) was having an internal conversation with Maynard (who wrote Judith). and it's always a little embarrasing talking to yourself. and the artist thought, 'fuck it, leave it in there.'
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:16 PM   #130
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What was Maynard thinking? lol someone should have told him how bad that intro sounds before they released it, how embarrasing lol
I like the intro it makes the song that much more distinct. We all sing it at work when its on and it sounds awesome. You know what's embarrassing? Misspelling emb...never mind.
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The only place I've ever heard anyone say that this song sucks is on the internet.

Shocking isn't?
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The only place I've ever heard anyone say that this song sucks is on the internet.

Shocking isn't?

Really? i've only met a few people who like it, but they're all new tool fans who have only heard 10,000 days. I've told them all what I think of it. Shit I still laugh just thinking about the start of the song lol
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The only song on 10,000 Days I don't absolutely love, though it is way more interesting than Stinkfist, anything on Opiate, and a lot of Undertow IMO, and obviously way better musically.
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Re: Why is it people don't like this song?

I like the beginning. It's a great sing-a-long song, who fucking cares if it's not deep and reflective. It's good music.

Tool fans = head up their asses.
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I like the beginning. It's a great sing-a-long song, who fucking cares if it's not deep and reflective. It's good music.

Tool fans = head up their asses.
It's not the lack of depth that makes me laugh. It's Maynards attempt at that range lol
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He's not a trained musician, he's a learned singer and simply goes with the heart. I personally think it sounds great, and he pulled it off. I'm far from a Tool asskisser, but that bit is far from complaint worthy, unless it ruins the angst vibe the rest of their work carries.
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Re: Why is it people don't like this song?

I think that people hate this song because it is a different pace than the other songs Tool releases. Just because something is different doesn't mean it's bad.

I like this song because I can relate to it. In my school, (i'm 16,) I know so many hypocrites it isnt funny. I relate to this song more than any other Tool song. It certainly isn't the best, but it isn't the worst. Leave that spot for Disgustipated.
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disgustipated kicks ass live, watch it in england 94 on youtube
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It certainly isn't the best, but it isn't the worst. Leave that spot for Disgustipated.
When you grow up, you'll appreciate Disgustipated. One of their most poignant and interesting songs....I can't get enough of LET THE RABBITS WEAR GLASSES and all the shotgun blasts. I gained a lot more respect for it after seeing the Undertow behind-the-scenes footage.
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When you grow up, you'll appreciate Disgustipated. One of their most poignant and interesting songs....I can't get enough of LET THE RABBITS WEAR GLASSES and all the shotgun blasts. I gained a lot more respect for it after seeing the Undertow behind-the-scenes footage.
I actually sat down the other day and listened all the way through it. I realized that it is a lot better than I originally thought. I also realized that ominous filler tracks Tool has have meaning like all their other songs. I now veiw their filler tracks as, "a short break," rather than, "pure and utter crap."

BACK ON THE DISCUSSION OF THE POT NOW
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I now veiw their filler tracks as, "a short break," rather than, "pure and utter crap."
i still consider a few segues "pure and utter crap", but only the ones that deserve it.
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i still consider a few segues "pure and utter crap", but only the ones that deserve it.
Like what? Lipan Conjuring? Mantra? Sure, they aren't as awesome or hilarious as their other segues, but they still have that meaning of "Don't just look at things on the surface." And Lipan goes along very well with Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned. Lipan represents the trip before the aftermath (Lost Keys,) and now he has to explain all of this (Rosetta Stoned.)

NOW WE START OUR DISCUSSION OF THE POT.
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People need to stop saying this song is "Undertow-ish". It's definitely not Undertow related, if anything I thought it was the passive sequel to Hooker With A Penis because it deals with Maynard venting his frustrations at a particular issue. I guess alot of songs off Undertow follow the same trend, but they all have deeper metaphorical meanings than The Pot (well most of them do anyway). I fucking love this song and I don't care what people say, great bass line thats simple but catchy (and damn fun to play, makes me feel like a badass) and the lyrics flow well with it too. Also I feel like people just thought it was cool to bash on The Pot because everyone called it "simple" and "silly". Lastly, Maynard doesn't sound black at all. The people who said that are fucking retarded no offense. Go listen to some Jay-Z or Tupac then come back and tell me he sounds black or that he's "rapping". He's just singing in this high octave range that he usually doesn't sing in, so he doesn't sound like mature Maynard. if anything I was thinking of the angry version of Robert Plant singing this because of the high vocal range (I would love to hear him sing this song!)
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I love the song & could care less if others agree. <3
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