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03-19-2006, 04:06 AM
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If you seek answers you need not go far, I suggest that everyone of you go and read the lyrics for AEnima, and Lateralus(both albums together) very carefully and if you can not tell then read them again until it is clear. This is definitely act III of a modern epic. I say again read the lyrics!

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If you seek answers you need not go far, I suggest that everyone of you go and read the lyrics for AEnima, and Lateralus(both albums together) very carefully and if you can not tell then read them again until it is clear. This is definitely act III of a modern epic. I say again read the lyrics!

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..thanks for the tip. never actually realized you could read along with the lyrics untill I saw this thread.

but as you seem to be the expert here why don't you explain throughly what the song LATERALUS is about.
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..thanks for the tip. never actually realized you could read along with the lyrics untill I saw this thread.

but as you seem to be the expert here why don't you explain throughly what the song LATERALUS is about.
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the realization that there is something better than this life
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the realization that there is something better than this life
Like what? Johnny Depp's life?
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I think it's about the endless possibilities in life to be/create something positive/beautiful if you only open your mind and become aware of what you are capable of.

Or something like that.

But I guess this is the wrong forum for a discussion about Lateralus.
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I think it's about the endless possibilities in life to be/create something positive/beautiful if you only open your mind and become aware of what you are capable of.

Or something like that.

But I guess this is the wrong forum for a discussion about Lateralus.
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You can't really say it's better, it's all one motion...if you want to say better you might as well go to church and believe in God and Heaven. I think the song lateralus is about bringing together your rationalistic points of views as well as emotion and spirituality. It's the duality of the mind...I think lateralus is the song that pretty much sums up all the frustration and inspiration from all the other songs on the record. It's the climax, where they sort of escape the cocoon of this self destructive world and climb out still feeling sticky, but connected on some other level.
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You can't really say it's better, it's all one motion...if you want to say better you might as well go to church and believe in God and Heaven. I think the song lateralus is about bringing together your rationalistic points of views as well as emotion and spirituality. It's the duality of the mind...I think lateralus is the song that pretty much sums up all the frustration and inspiration from all the other songs on the record. It's the climax, where they sort of escape the cocoon of this self destructive world and climb out still feeling sticky, but connected on some other level.
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Like what? Johnny Depp's life?
this guy knows what's up
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Think current events think change, whats wrong with this picture?...... read all the album lyrics together....there is something underlying it all
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Think current events think change, whats wrong with this picture?...... read all the album lyrics together....there is something underlying it all
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but as you seem to be the expert here why don't you explain throughly what the song LATERALUS is about.
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Think current events think change, whats wrong with this picture?...... read all the album lyrics together....there is something underlying it all
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http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...ng_world.4.jpg



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During the war Nazi scientists were captured and put to work for the U.S. government....german psychologists(experts in brainwashing, mind control) begin working in the US advertising market in the 1950's.....*the material nation*...the combined wealth of the three richest people in the world is more than the poorest 48 nations, The U.S. produces 10,000 times more waste than the country of India, alothough it's population is a quarter of the size.....The U.S. produces 29% of all greenhouse gases even though it population is only 5% of the worlds population.....U.S. currently spends more on defense than every nation in the world combined..............The WTO is under no international or national law and abides by no human rights or environmental standards.......The current rate of extinction is higher than at any point geologic history(really).....sea level rise is double the rate of a 150 yrs past.....2005 was the warmest year in recorded history(over a millenium)surpassing 1998......it begins with the ego.....glutany......I just need it

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http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...ng_world.4.jpg



http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...2520Donald.jpg
During the war Nazi scientists were captured and put to work for the U.S. government....german psychologists(experts in brainwashing, mind control) begin working in the US advertising market in the 1950's.....*the material nation*...the combined wealth of the three richest people in the world is more than the poorest 48 nations, The U.S. produces 10,000 times more waste than the country of India, alothough it's population is a quarter of the size.....The U.S. produces 29% of all greenhouse gases even though it population is only 5% of the worlds population.....U.S. currently spends more on defense than every nation in the world combined..............The WTO is under no international or national law and abides by no human rights or environmental standards.......The current rate of extinction is higher than at any point geologic history(really).....sea level rise is double the rate of a 150 yrs past.....2005 was the warmest year in recorded history(over a millenium)surpassing 1998......it begins with the ego.....glutany......I just need it

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the realization that there is something better than this life
that's your interpretation of the song? to me, it's the realization that THIS life is amazing and to not waste it.
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that's your interpretation of the song? to me, it's the realization that THIS life is amazing and to not waste it.
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http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...ng_world.4.jpg



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During the war Nazi scientists were captured and put to work for the U.S. government....german psychologists(experts in brainwashing, mind control) begin working in the US advertising market in the 1950's.....*the material nation*...the combined wealth of the three richest people in the world is more than the poorest 48 nations, The U.S. produces 10,000 times more waste than the country of India, alothough it's population is a quarter of the size.....The U.S. produces 29% of all greenhouse gases even though it population is only 5% of the worlds population.....U.S. currently spends more on defense than every nation in the world combined..............The WTO is under no international or national law and abides by no human rights or environmental standards.......The current rate of extinction is higher than at any point geologic history(really).....sea level rise is double the rate of a 150 yrs past.....2005 was the warmest year in recorded history(over a millenium)surpassing 1998......it begins with the ego.....glutany......I just need it
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During the war Nazi scientists were captured and put to work for the U.S. government....german psychologists(experts in brainwashing, mind control) begin working in the US advertising market in the 1950's.....*the material nation*...the combined wealth of the three richest people in the world is more than the poorest 48 nations, The U.S. produces 10,000 times more waste than the country of India, alothough it's population is a quarter of the size.....The U.S. produces 29% of all greenhouse gases even though it population is only 5% of the worlds population.....U.S. currently spends more on defense than every nation in the world combined..............The WTO is under no international or national law and abides by no human rights or environmental standards.......The current rate of extinction is higher than at any point geologic history(really).....sea level rise is double the rate of a 150 yrs past.....2005 was the warmest year in recorded history(over a millenium)surpassing 1998......it begins with the ego.....glutany......I just need it
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this is the most of off topic discussion ive ever seen...i love it
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this is the most of off topic discussion ive ever seen...i love it
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this is the most of off topic discussion ive ever seen...i love it
Surely you're being sarcastic...

The final chapter in any thing you do is what you're doing right now...

But yeah, go LiberAl-ism.
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this is the most of off topic discussion ive ever seen...i love it
Surely you're being sarcastic...

The final chapter in any thing you do is what you're doing right now...

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you americans need to get a clinton back in office. he is all about the kyoto protocol now. save our fuckin planet you garbage mongers. i want to live into my old age.
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you americans need to get a clinton back in office. he is all about the kyoto protocol now. save our fuckin planet you garbage mongers. i want to live into my old age.
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the world's gong to gend in 2008 anyway, so you might as well live it up... oh, and BTW according to the "Bible Code" if 2008 doesn't end all existence the comet in 2012 will....
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the world's gong to gend in 2008 anyway, so you might as well live it up... oh, and BTW according to the "Bible Code" if 2008 doesn't end all existence the comet in 2012 will....
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the world's gong to gend in 2008 anyway, so you might as well live it up... oh, and BTW according to the "Bible Code" if 2008 doesn't end all existence the comet in 2012 will....
Interesting.
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the world's gong to gend in 2008 anyway, so you might as well live it up... oh, and BTW according to the "Bible Code" if 2008 doesn't end all existence the comet in 2012 will....
I'd have to say 2012. Thats when the Mayan calender ends too.
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the world's gong to gend in 2008 anyway, so you might as well live it up... oh, and BTW according to the "Bible Code" if 2008 doesn't end all existence the comet in 2012 will....
I'd have to say 2012. Thats when the Mayan calender ends too.
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I have to say that no one in the universe knows when the world is going to end except for those few lucky Wheel-o-Fortune winners that get to exist beyond time and have already witnessed it.

That is, if the world is ever going to really end. The earth may end and people will probably end, but will the World ever end? Realize of course that the World is a relative term depending on where it is you live. There will always be a civilization somewhere on some world, therefore the concept of world will not likely ever end.

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I have to say that no one in the universe knows when the world is going to end except for those few lucky Wheel-o-Fortune winners that get to exist beyond time and have already witnessed it.

That is, if the world is ever going to really end. The earth may end and people will probably end, but will the World ever end? Realize of course that the World is a relative term depending on where it is you live. There will always be a civilization somewhere on some world, therefore the concept of world will not likely ever end.

Having said that, balls.
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I think you can sum up the meaning of Lateralus in 2 words - "Transcendentalist philosophy" of course that is my opinion. But I also think they meant it to be interpreted however you choose too. That is why we love them so much, of course...
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I think you can sum up the meaning of Lateralus in 2 words - "Transcendentalist philosophy" of course that is my opinion. But I also think they meant it to be interpreted however you choose too. That is why we love them so much, of course...
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this is not to anyone in particular, but can any of you think broader than just one song, Read the LYRICS, Both albums together, look past the nose on your face, I bet not one of you that have posted on this thread have actually done what I said in the first post. I am not just going to come and explain everything to you guys, you all expect to be spoon fed answers, this is part of the problem with you and the world. Dig deeper, think about our culture, what is wrong with this picture, remember some of the things I've stated....can life continue like this? Life feeds on life.....WE must crusify the ego before its far too late, before we pine away............

P.S. The last mass extinction was attributed to an asteroid hitting what is now known as central mexico.......the impact of the strike was equal to 3 hydrogen bombs going off per sq mile across the entire Earth.....yet life still exists...........no, the world is not ending.........Although recent evidence points to an abundance of greenhouse gases resulting from volcanic activity, precipitation became acidic, killing land vegitation-killing 70% of all land species, resulting in soil eroision, causing the seas to fill with soil and organic material cause Eutrophication (decreased water oxidation) killing 40% of marine species......hmmm....does this sound familiar....Man the tool maker will he flush it all away

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this is not to anyone in particular, but can any of you think broader than just one song, Read the LYRICS, Both albums together, look past the nose on your face, I bet not one of you that have posted on this thread have actually done what I said in the first post. I am not just going to come and explain everything to you guys, you all expect to be spoon fed answers, this is part of the problem with you and the world. Dig deeper, think about our culture, what is wrong with this picture, remember some of the things I've stated....can life continue like this? Life feeds on life.....WE must crusify the ego before its far too late, before we pine away............

P.S. The last mass extinction was attributed to an asteroid hitting what is now known as central mexico.......the impact of the strike was equal to 3 hydrogen bombs going off per sq mile across the entire Earth.....yet life still exists...........no, the world is not ending.........Although recent evidence points to an abundance of greenhouse gases resulting from volcanic activity, precipitation became acidic, killing land vegitation-killing 70% of all land species, resulting in soil eroision, causing the seas to fill with soil and organic material cause Eutrophication (decreased water oxidation) killing 40% of marine species......hmmm....does this sound familiar....Man the tool maker will he flush it all away

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you americans need to get a clinton back in office. he is all about the kyoto protocol now. save our fuckin planet you garbage mongers. i want to live into my old age.
right track..but Its not about Clinton its about _ _ _
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you americans need to get a clinton back in office. he is all about the kyoto protocol now. save our fuckin planet you garbage mongers. i want to live into my old age.
right track..but Its not about Clinton its about _ _ _
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~But come on man; we have all read the lyrics. People disagree.
stop trying to separate each song read them together, someone is trying to tell us something, read the Kerrang interview again, what is maynard talking about, anyone (not enough people are getting it) It's crushing. If you don't know what he is talking about, you are precisely the problem
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~But come on man; we have all read the lyrics. People disagree.
stop trying to separate each song read them together, someone is trying to tell us something, read the Kerrang interview again, what is maynard talking about, anyone (not enough people are getting it) It's crushing. If you don't know what he is talking about, you are precisely the problem
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if you have a point, say it now before people lose interest
thats their fualt for not using their brains and thinking for theirselves (I know, give me shit for saying "think for yourselves" go on, just do it, like everyone does, im expecting it!) Tool has said it themselves, their lyrics are multi layered.
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if you have a point, say it now before people lose interest
thats their fualt for not using their brains and thinking for theirselves (I know, give me shit for saying "think for yourselves" go on, just do it, like everyone does, im expecting it!) Tool has said it themselves, their lyrics are multi layered.
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the latest kerrang interview? I think i see more than one.......
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the latest kerrang interview? I think i see more than one.......
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because i am dr phil i can tell you that there will be those people who will make fun of you, and those people are right to do so. maybe you should learn to think for yourself and question those who tell you to think for yourself's authority.

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thanks for pointing out the odvious. Its the best I got so why dont I give the best I have instead of giving nothing? Nothing is weak. But anyways, thanks for the compliment Dr. ImIll.
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because i am dr phil i can tell you that there will be those people who will make fun of you, and those people are right to do so. maybe you should learn to think for yourself and question those who tell you to think for yourself's authority.

ps: your avatar is stupid. and also, cocks.
thanks for pointing out the odvious. Its the best I got so why dont I give the best I have instead of giving nothing? Nothing is weak. But anyways, thanks for the compliment Dr. ImIll.
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think about your identity, what do you think its, your car, your job, your money, your possessions..who are you, are these things really you, or are they just material, but do you treat them that way, are they part of you?.....clutch them like a cornerstone....let this go....choose to let it go

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think about your identity, what do you think its, your car, your job, your money, your possessions..who are you, are these things really you, or are they just material, but do you treat them that way, are they part of you?.....clutch them like a cornerstone....let this go....choose to let it go

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think about your identity, what do you think its, your car, your job, your money, your possessions..who are you, are these things really you, or are they just material, but do you treat them that way, are they part of you?.....clutch them like a cornerstone....let this go....choose to let it go
well those things are all apart of the same interconnected matter that makes up this world and universe, which I myself, or my physicle self is connected to. But my thoughts and feelings are not the same physicla matter. So therefore these possessions are an illusion because I think my soul and thoughts are eternal.
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think about your identity, what do you think its, your car, your job, your money, your possessions..who are you, are these things really you, or are they just material, but do you treat them that way, are they part of you?.....clutch them like a cornerstone....let this go....choose to let it go
well those things are all apart of the same interconnected matter that makes up this world and universe, which I myself, or my physicle self is connected to. But my thoughts and feelings are not the same physicla matter. So therefore these possessions are an illusion because I think my soul and thoughts are eternal.
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think about your identity, what do you think its, your car, your job, your money, your possessions..who are you, are these things really you, or are they just material, but do you treat them that way, are they part of you?.....clutch them like a cornerstone....let this go....choose to let it go
identity is merely a safety net.
embrace the radical illusion of the world (there is no reality).
what we have forgotten, by dint of constantly accumulating, adding, going for more, is that force comes from subtraction, power from absence.
there is no point identifying the world. Things have to be grasped in their sleep, or in any other circumstance where they are absent from themselves.

"truth cannot be regarded as the highest power. The will to semblance, to illusion, to deception, to becoming, to change is to be regarded here as deeper, more original, more metaphysical than the will to truth, to reality, to being - the latter is itself merely a form of the will to illusion." - Nietzsche
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think about your identity, what do you think its, your car, your job, your money, your possessions..who are you, are these things really you, or are they just material, but do you treat them that way, are they part of you?.....clutch them like a cornerstone....let this go....choose to let it go
identity is merely a safety net.
embrace the radical illusion of the world (there is no reality).
what we have forgotten, by dint of constantly accumulating, adding, going for more, is that force comes from subtraction, power from absence.
there is no point identifying the world. Things have to be grasped in their sleep, or in any other circumstance where they are absent from themselves.

"truth cannot be regarded as the highest power. The will to semblance, to illusion, to deception, to becoming, to change is to be regarded here as deeper, more original, more metaphysical than the will to truth, to reality, to being - the latter is itself merely a form of the will to illusion." - Nietzsche
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now, take what i have said and look at the lyrics again, what are they trying to tell us, culture....catastrophe.......self realization, why am I here, so good to see you, I have missed you so much, I thought that you were hiding. And you thought that I had run away. Chasing the tail of dogma. I opened my eye and there we were. So good to see you once again I thought that you were hiding from me. And you thought that I had run away. Chasing a trail of smoke and reason. Prying open my third eye.

Carl Jung

"aenema being anima = HIM
lateralus the animus being HER

1-him
2-her
3-you

anima animus have been covered.. the shadow has been covered in 46&2
the ego in reflection

now onto the true SELF and the collective unconcious ..
not the mind but the nature of mind.
http://pandc.ca/graphics/psyche.gif"Anomaly

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now, take what i have said and look at the lyrics again, what are they trying to tell us, culture....catastrophe.......self realization, why am I here, so good to see you, I have missed you so much, I thought that you were hiding. And you thought that I had run away. Chasing the tail of dogma. I opened my eye and there we were. So good to see you once again I thought that you were hiding from me. And you thought that I had run away. Chasing a trail of smoke and reason. Prying open my third eye.

Carl Jung

"aenema being anima = HIM
lateralus the animus being HER

1-him
2-her
3-you

anima animus have been covered.. the shadow has been covered in 46&2
the ego in reflection

now onto the true SELF and the collective unconcious ..
not the mind but the nature of mind.
http://pandc.ca/graphics/psyche.gif"Anomaly

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identity is merely a safety net.
embrace the radical illusion of the world (there is no reality).
what we have forgotten, by dint of constantly accumulating, adding, going for more, is that force comes from subtraction, power from absence.
there is no point identifying the world. Things have to be grasped in their sleep, or in any other circumstance where they are absent from themselves.

"truth cannot be regarded as the highest power. The will to semblance, to illusion, to deception, to becoming, to change is to be regarded here as deeper, more original, more metaphysical than the will to truth, to reality, to being - the latter is itself merely a form of the will to illusion." - Nietzsche
To evolve, we must de-evolve. People have not always had idenitys and had to identify anything. So in order to advance must we go to the highest and most pure form of ignorance realizing we truly know nothing? Then from there, now that we know nothing, then we can truly evolve universally further.
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identity is merely a safety net.
embrace the radical illusion of the world (there is no reality).
what we have forgotten, by dint of constantly accumulating, adding, going for more, is that force comes from subtraction, power from absence.
there is no point identifying the world. Things have to be grasped in their sleep, or in any other circumstance where they are absent from themselves.

"truth cannot be regarded as the highest power. The will to semblance, to illusion, to deception, to becoming, to change is to be regarded here as deeper, more original, more metaphysical than the will to truth, to reality, to being - the latter is itself merely a form of the will to illusion." - Nietzsche
To evolve, we must de-evolve. People have not always had idenitys and had to identify anything. So in order to advance must we go to the highest and most pure form of ignorance realizing we truly know nothing? Then from there, now that we know nothing, then we can truly evolve universally further.
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well we know, as a fact aenema is not "enema". What else could it be besides anima?
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well we know, as a fact aenema is not "enema". What else could it be besides anima?
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