Why didn't Maynard just join these songs into one track?

Just cut off the end of Wings 1 and let it run into Wings 2?
It would have made the song more epic and better too,
because the end of Wings 1 just winds me down, only to be elevated again when Wings 2 starts.

Great song and everything, and i love it, but i think it would have been better as a huge tribute song instead of a two parted one.

( btw, which is your preferred funeral song, Eulogy or Wings 1 & 2 ? )

I believe they broke it up for aesthetics... and for making the album 11 tracks in length. Note that Lateralus, Disposition and Reflection are all one long song as well. It's a bit odd on a "rock/metal/whatever" album to have something over 10min., but to have a third of the album taken up by one song that's almost 18min. long is a bit much. Also, it allows for a separate understanding of Wings Pt. 1 on it's own instead of seeing it as merely an "intro" to the main part, which is what I think would have happened if it were one long song.

Dream Theatre is a rock band and one of their songs hits 24 min

pretentious: excellent musicians, but I can't take too much of their music --- it's all showing off.

I suppose it is, but it is wonderful to know that there are decent guitar players around, instead of stupid emo band ones ( like Escape the fate )

Mike Patton's Fantomas did a one-track album: Delerium Cordia.
The song's called: "Surgical Sound Specimens from the Museum of Skin" and clocks 74:17 min.

Oh yeah, i'm interested. Probably won't be in my local stores though :(

Well i think it is. Your location is quite big in my noble opinion ;)

But i doubt it's worth the effort of searching. It's one giant instrumental horror soundtrack with a lot of soundeffects. So don't be too excited.

The lenght of a song doesn't mostly reffer to it's quality.

Better check out Neurosis (The Eye Of Every Storm) if i may make a suggestion.

Your right, it could be 20 minutes of crap. but a lot of songs i listen to are long and good
e.g Metallicas' Master of Puppets

I will check out that Neurosis song thanks

Check the whole album. But, indeed, the title-song is recommended.

Cool, this is why i like this site. People tell you some of the best bands that you've never heard of before.

I think it's basically just to make the Viginti Tres sync thing more obvious. Nothing more, nothing less.

does that sync thing even work?
explain please

The Mars Volta has an album that is all one song.

Is it a good song though? besides, i don't think a one track deserves to be called an album, i think it would be called a 'single'

I totally agree,they are fantastic musicians but for the love of god please lose that dumbass lead singer Labrie.That band is so much better instrumental I think.If you ever hear them without him its way better.

I thought the lead singer was Mike Portnoy?
But yeah i agree, they need a better singer. Someone like...well Maynard, but i suppose the lead guitarist is a decent singer ( he did good for the beginning of Octavarium imo)

They could go for the singer of Esoterica. He sounds quite like MJK.

http://esoterica1.com/index.php

Just read post 21.........

lol, This is turning into more of a 'Epic song' thread...

So do we think that Wings 1 & 2 should have been one song or not?
post yes or no and why please

You must then also question this to:
- parabol/parabola
- lost keys/rosetta stoned
- disposition/reflection/triad
- ions/third eye

These all connect but are individual tracks. But only the "wings" and "parabol(a)" tracks have lyrics in the first (so called) introtrack.

IMO i say; no, not one track. It's upto the listener him/herself to skip in between or listen to them as a whole.

I don't think the're going to put out a new load of 10K with the tracks combined, now will they?

oh yeah, but its interesting to wonder why they turned it into two parts, when one would have made it THE song of the year imo

Interestingly, I also do think that Parabol/Parabola would have been better joined as well. But the other 'connected songs' that you've stated i think are better separated.

um im actually surprised no one has said this yet, unless i missed a post or two, but couldn't it be so they could only play one part of the 2 part song? when i saw tool, they played wings 1&2 but only played rosetta stoned, not lost keys. just a thought.

Maybe i know why. I saw them in novembre 2006 in Ahoy, Rotterdam. There they did play Lost Keys. But i noticed that a lot of people chose that moment to take a leak or go buy a round of beer..........

So maybe they skipped Lost Keys so everyone would be seated (lol).

I noticed that most of the idiots around me didn't have a fucking clued what FLOOD! was. i was laughing at the stupid look on all of their faces.

Good thought. Its like a kitty. Why would anyone split a kitty in half?

aaaaand I prolly like Wings more then Eulogy. Barbeque wings...mmmmmmmmm

I'd split a kitty in half anyday, not sure how the wings 1&2 can be called a kitty but ok

I suppose for actually live playing, it would be easier to separate the songs.

imo i don't think Wings should be played live, its too personal a song for maynard. Then again, all songs are personal for maynard.

I always thought the Lateralus long song was Disposition/Reflection/Triad. I can see how Lateralus leads into Disposition, but Triad definitely ties into it.

I still don't understand why they split up Parabol and Parabola. It sucks when you like to use shuffle. One of the two will come on and I'll just skip it because I know I'll only be hearing half of a song.

At least Wings and 1000000000 days are each long enough to qualify as a song if you only hear one of them. But yeah they probably should have tied them together. If you ask me I was a little disappointed at first when I got the album and saw that there were really only 7 songs. Is it just me or has Tool been leaning too much toward the filler?

a kitty with barbecue wings!!

mmm kitty.....

I'll have some orange juice with that.

Perhaps this is just my interpretation of the lyrics (which I won't simply regurgitate and then put my intepretation directly after, as some people on this site like to do, because you guys can go read them for yourselves if you want) is that "Wings for Marie (Pt. 1)" takes place next to her hospital bed during her final moments and directly after. He talks about light being immobilized in her eyes and then asks her what he is supposed to say to everyone. "10,000 Days (pt. 2)" always painted the picture to me of a funeral. Specifically Maynard talking at a funeral. He talks about dealing with hypocrites and ignorant siblings. I think the two were separated because they are two separate ideas, two separate situations. I also think that if you follow the lyrics between the two songs, they progress toward him acccepting his mothers death. He comes full circle in the end with the "daylight dims" line, as if he is again in the same situation (viewing her body) but is now in a different place emotionally.

I have to say that every time I listen to these two tracks, I am reminded of my Grandmother's passing and funeral two years ago. She battled cancer for 15 years after they told her that she had less than one to live. She was also a devout Catholic, I remember getting slapped for taking the Lord's name in vain by her. She was the strongest person that I have ever met. She raised 7 children on a lower class income and I think they all came out alright. Everytime I hear these tracks, they take me back to those days, carrying her casket, speaking at her funeral. They have a special meaning to me.

Excellent read. I think your explaination does really answer the question why the songs should be separate.

Maybe they are 2 songs so people have more incentive to buy this piece of shit album.

Piece of shit album? Here's one opinion. Maybe you must chance your name to *~*»€«(Đisappoińted)»€«*~*

;)

I don't think Tool believes in quantity.
But i agree that 10k isn't as good as Lateralus or Ænima.

10k Days isn't as good as Lateralus, Ænima, Undertow, or Opiate. It's easily the worst album and I only liked maybe, MAYBE, one or two songs on it.

But that's just my opinion.

Its better than Opiate, but not by much. Its only saving grace is the first four songs and my personal favourite off the album, Intension. It seems disappointing to have come so far with the previous albums only to slump in the recent one

And after all the hype and patience we got 10k Days. It was just so completely disappointing to me